A 19yr and a 15yr in a relationship? Is that ok?

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#51 DisturbedChild7
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

When did I say look? And I don't condone the relationship between and 19 and 15 year olds. It just depends on the individuals in the situation.

LJS9502_basic

No it doesn't....the 15 year olds always think they are old enough...and there is something wrong with an adult who has to date children.

Here's a question: A HS senior dates a HS freshmnan and it's okay to pretty much everyone. One year later he's 19, she's 15. Are they supposed to break up right away (even though they probably will, you never know)?

An 18 year old senior should NOT be dating a 14 year old freshman.:|

It still happens, and is accepted (by many, believe it or not) because they're both in school.

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#52 MandingoChief
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1)  Yes, they should be breaking up: if you're 19 then it's expected that you're getting a job/career, going to college (or the Army, whatever.)  Point being is that you're supposed to be starting a new period in your life.
2)  The statutory rape laws apply only to sex.  You could have a non-intercourse relationship with a young girl, though it is still morally reprehensible.  You will only be arrested for sexual relations with her.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

When did I say look? And I don't condone the relationship between and 19 and 15 year olds. It just depends on the individuals in the situation.

DisturbedChild7

No it doesn't....the 15 year olds always think they are old enough...and there is something wrong with an adult who has to date children.

Here's a question: A HS senior dates a HS freshmnan and it's okay to pretty much everyone. One year later he's 19, she's 15. Are they supposed to break up right away (even though they probably will, you never know)?

An 18 year old senior should NOT be dating a 14 year old freshman.:|

It still happens, and is accepted (by many, believe it or not) because they're both in school.

Its been a few years since I've been in High School, but when I was there, that would have been considered weird as ****, and the senior would have been ridiculed beyond belief...and would have deserved it.
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#54 LJS9502_basic
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It still happens, and is accepted (by many, believe it or not) because they're both in school.

DisturbedChild7

A lot of things happen...that doesn't make them right. Again...he is an adult...she is a child. He definitely has issues and where are her parents?

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#55 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

An 18 year old senior should NOT be dating a 14 year old freshman.:|

DisturbedChild7

It still happens, and is accepted (by many, believe it or not) because they're both in school.

Don't date jail-bait!

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#56 DisturbedChild7
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

When did I say look? And I don't condone the relationship between and 19 and 15 year olds. It just depends on the individuals in the situation.

Mumbles527

No it doesn't....the 15 year olds always think they are old enough...and there is something wrong with an adult who has to date children.

Here's a question: A HS senior dates a HS freshmnan and it's okay to pretty much everyone. One year later he's 19, she's 15. Are they supposed to break up right away (even though they probably will, you never know)?

An 18 year old senior should NOT be dating a 14 year old freshman.:|

It still happens, and is accepted (by many, believe it or not) because they're both in school.

Its been a few years since I've been in High School, but when I was there, that would have been considered weird as ****, and the senior would have been ridiculed beyond belief...and would have deserved it.

Yea, I'm with you on that. The point being though, one year changes many people's beliefs when nothing really changed, just a number.

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#57 LJS9502_basic
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Its been a few years since I've been in High School, but when I was there, that would have been considered weird as ****, and the senior would have been ridiculed beyond belief...and would have deserved it.Mumbles527

True....when I was in high school...seniors didn't date freshman. Didn't even speak to them unless they were related.

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#58 DisturbedChild7
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

It still happens, and is accepted (by many, believe it or not) because they're both in school.

LJS9502_basic

A lot of things happen...that doesn't make them right. Again...he is an adult...she is a child. He definitely has issues and where are her parents?

Since when do kids in HS listen to their parents about "love"? You said it yourself, they think they know everything.

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#59 LJS9502_basic
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Since when do kids in HS listen to their parents about "love"? You said it yourself, they think they know everything.

DisturbedChild7

I wasn't talking about the parents dealing with the girl...dealing with the so-called adult in the relationship.

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#60 DisturbedChild7
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

Since when do kids in HS listen to their parents about "love"? You said it yourself, they think they know everything.

LJS9502_basic

I wasn't talking about the parents dealing with the girl...dealing with the so-called adult in the relationship.

They can take out a restraining order, but sometimes parents don't know about the relationships, or there could be the usual stalker-like defiance of the order. Other than the restraining order, parents can't do anything.

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#61 normal_man
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Well... If they love each other and this is a TRUE love and they are mature, of course in reliationship... I think that isnt a bad thing...
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#62 LJS9502_basic
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They can take out a restraining order, but sometimes parents don't know about the relationships, or there could be the usual stalker-like defiance of the order. Other than the restraining order, parents can't do anything.

DisturbedChild7

If he's a stalker then he has several issues....and could be thrown in jail...which I would do if an adult was stalking my underage child.

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#63 Hate_Squad
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yes it's ok
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#64 B0Knows
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No. Not OK, dude.Mumbles527
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#65 Oleg_Huzwog
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There is a disturbingly large number of Gamespot users who think it's okay for an adult to be romantic with a child.
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#66 LJS9502_basic
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There is a disturbingly large number of Gamespot users who think it's okay for an adult to be romantic with a child.Oleg_Huzwog

I've noticed that....

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Demi Moor and Ashton Kutcher, however it's spelt.
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:lol: depends what you think of jail, i guess.LoG-Sacrament

:lol:

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#69 solid_mario
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Depends on the girl
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#70 skinnypete91
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No.
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#71 Oleg_Huzwog
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Depends on the girlsolid_mario

ARGH! Another closet pedo? Dating outside the age of consent is wrong regardless of the boy/girl/man/woman.

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#72 DisturbedChild7
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[QUOTE="solid_mario"]Depends on the girlOleg_Huzwog

ARGH! Another closet pedo? Dating outside the age of consent is wrong regardless of the boy/girl/man/woman.

What i fthere were no age of consent. The only reason it's wrong is because that's how we're raised....

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#73 acekall
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yes nothing wrong with it
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#74 _Marisa_
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Honestly, no, I don't think it's okay. I remember back when I was both 15 and 19. Between the two ages, I did A LOT of maturing and learning. 15 is still a child. You can say "Oh, he/she is mature for his/her age" but it's simply not true. The brain is not physically done developing, end of story.
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#75 hip-hop-cola2
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no. the age restriction is there for a reason.

i my self turned 16 a few months ago... and even i know im just mature enough. (cant say id turn much down though lol)

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#76 SOedipus
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Nope.
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#77 Ngamer05
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definitely not cool
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#78 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

ARGH! Another closet pedo? Dating outside the age of consent is wrong regardless of the boy/girl/man/woman.

DisturbedChild7

What i fthere were no age of consent. The only reason it's wrong is because that's how we're raised....

Pedophiles say "Who are you to tell me what is and isn't acceptable?" If 19 and 15 is okay, why not 14? Why not 13? Hell, why not 5? Maybe we should go the other direction. How about a 20 and 15? 25 and 15? 30 and 15?

Society needs clearly defined boundaries so we aren't faced with those slippery-slope questions. Those boundaries come in the form of age of consent laws.

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its pushing it kind of
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#80 DisturbedChild7
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

ARGH! Another closet pedo? Dating outside the age of consent is wrong regardless of the boy/girl/man/woman.

Oleg_Huzwog

What i fthere were no age of consent. The only reason it's wrong is because that's how we're raised....

Pedophiles say "Who are you to tell me what is and isn't acceptable?" If 19 and 15 is okay, why not 14? Why not 13? Hell, why not 5? Maybe we should go the other direction. How about a 20 and 15? 25 and 15? 30 and 15?

Society needs clearly defined boundaries so we aren't faced with those slippery-slope questions. Those boundaries come in the form of age of consent laws.

We do need laws, that's correct. However, the question was what if there weren't? If your entire family had sex with 10 year olds would you think that's wrong? No, because you were raised that way. That's why many pedos have a history of sexual abuse in their families. If these laws weren't made it could be like times when it wasn't uncommon to marry at 14 and go off to work. I agree that there should be laws, but you can't deny we think this way because we are raised to think this way. It's like the Amish choosing to stay Amish instead of converting.

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#81 Oleg_Huzwog
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We do need laws, that's correct. However, the question was what if there weren't? If your entire family had sex with 10 year olds would you think that's wrong? No, because you were raised that way. That's why many pedos have a history of sexual abuse in their families. If these laws weren't made it could be like times when it wasn't uncommon to marry at 14 and go off to work. I agree that there should be laws, but you can't deny we think this way because we are raised to think this way. It's like the Amish choosing to stay Amish instead of converting.

DisturbedChild7

You are correct in that there is no denying upbringing plays a major role in how we think. This cannot be used to rationalize the act, though. What was or wasn't acceptable 100 years ago is irrelevant. All that is relevant is what is and isn't acceptable today.

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#82 firebreathing
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

Who said the girl wouldn't be happy. I get what you're saying, but you sound like you think he's forcing a relationship on the girl.

LJS9502_basic

He said everyone is entitled to the pursuit of happiness....I responded with the correct answer. Why are you arguing that?

Second....their are laws in place for a reason. She is a minor and not legally able to consent.

hahaha, do you know how full the jails would be if every guy that was with an minor actually went to prison??? On a side note, when I was living by the coast i roomed with a couple where the female was a minor while they were dating, she is now 19 I believe and they are still together.

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:lol: depends what you think of jail, i guess.LoG-Sacrament
probably the best answer :lol:
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Depends on what country you are in. In germany its more than OK
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[QUOTE="DisturbedChild7"]

We do need laws, that's correct. However, the question was what if there weren't? If your entire family had sex with 10 year olds would you think that's wrong? No, because you were raised that way. That's why many pedos have a history of sexual abuse in their families. If these laws weren't made it could be like times when it wasn't uncommon to marry at 14 and go off to work. I agree that there should be laws, but you can't deny we think this way because we are raised to think this way. It's like the Amish choosing to stay Amish instead of converting.

Oleg_Huzwog

You are correct in that there is no denying upbringing plays a major role in how we think. This cannot be used to rationalize the act, though. What was or wasn't acceptable 100 years ago is irrelevant. All that is relevant is what is and isn't acceptable today.

It was acceptable less than 100 years ago, it's more of a recent change. The only time this act is rationalized is when you hear in courts that a deal is made because a guy thought a girl was 18, she wasn't, and he got arrested. He gets punished, but it is rationalized because it's saying that sometimes looks are important. If you went to a bar and had sex with a 16 year old thinking she's 18 or 19 (even though it'd be illegal for her to be there, but overlook that) does that make you a pedophile. Rare instances can indeed rationalize this, but in this threads case, it can't. A conscious, long-term relationship is against the moral standard in society.

Ha, I just read that. It made me chuckle.

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hahaha, do you know how full the jails would be if every guy that was with an minor actually went to prison??? On a side note, when I was living by the coast i roomed with a couple where the female was a minor while they were dating, she is now 19 I believe and they are still together.

firebreathing

Doesn't anyone understand what they read?

And last I checked statatory rape was a criminal offense. If they committed it...they deserve to be in jail....that's a poor excuse for not following the law.:roll:

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#88 Achilles438
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Yes i know there's another thread like this, but this is a little different. So is it ok for a 19year old to be in a relation with a 15 year old? I think 15's a good enough age where you're mature enough. No?TheDarthvader

there is no way that this is acceptable.

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#89 LJS9502_basic
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Depends on what country you are in. In germany its more than OKBig_Black_Eyes

No it's not...

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:lol: depends what you think of jail, i guess.LoG-Sacrament
:lol: thats what i was gonna say :P
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#91 kemar7856
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no gaps in age should not start till after for both ppl
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#93 SlashDementia3
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Nope, it's wrong. Good to see a couple of people that would agree that it's not right. I've seen it that many girls that date older guys at that age just regret it. The only thing that's going to happen is that the girl might end up with a fatherless child then her and the child's lives are going to be pretty messed up. Even if that doesn't happen, when/if he goes to college, he's not taking her with him.
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#94 Bourbons3
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Not really, no.
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#95 inoperativeRS
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Yes.
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go for it, long as ur happy, screw everyone who says u shouldnt, just do what u think is right. follow ur heart....CHEESE lmfao
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#97 LexLas
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Not in this country. It's not OK.
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go for it, long as ur happy, screw everyone who says u shouldnt, just do what u think is right. follow ur heart....CHEESE lmfaoxxxBravo_3xxx

Pedo-bear would be proud.

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#99 _Kazi_
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I guess if the girl is 15 and the dude is 19, then its a bit weird. But hey, I got a freind who's 16 going out with a 20 year old girl. lucky b*stard.
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#100 NightStalkerBX
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I guess if the girl is 15 and the dude is 19, then its a bit weird. But hey, I got a freind who's 16 going out with a 20 year old girl. lucky b*stard._Kazi_

Double standard FTL...