A ho mo sexual man was studying the bible at my workplace...

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[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.Wetall_basic

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

Can we stick to one religion here and not jump around and argue two different ideologies.

[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Reread what you quoted and noticed that basically anyone having premarital sex is in the same boat.;)PannicAtack

What does that have to do with anything??

You've misinterpreted the text and want to preach....the wrong facts...to someone who is undoubtedly familiar with the Bible as he was reading it.

Um excuse me but wtf are you talking about. How did I misinterpret anything? I took those words straight out of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Men who lie with men, wtf else could it mean?

Why the **** do you care? >_>

I dont.

I dont.

Lil_Dwayne

Then why feel the need to tell him anything....leave him to his beliefs.

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[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.Wetall_basic

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

1.I follow the NT, and I don't take everything in the OT literally....

2. Yeah? So? God said it was a sin to be uncircumsized, that seems normal to me...

3. For JEWS! JEWS!

4. WTH! How do you get that from it saying a woman will have pain in childbirth and to be sumbmissive to their husbands!

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[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]And somewhere in this thread I read somebody stating that Jesus might be homosexual????? WHat!!! How did you come to that conclusion?LJS9502_basic

Well, Jesus might not have had a wife. And so, that leaves the discussion open for him hiding his wife, him having an affair, lots of possibilities. I'm not saying he was, but still. And I know, it's like saying that oranges could have been yellow, but still.

Or being as he was part God.....no interest in sex.;)

Embodied as a man, to live among us, and feel our pain, no one ever said that Jesus was uncapable of sin.

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.LJS9502_basic

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

Can we stick to one religion here and not jump around and argue two different ideologies.

Reading this post surprised me a little that you think it odd a ho mo sexual reading the bible and saying he is a believer, when there are so many parallels with American society in general:

1. God is against homosexuality.
2. God is against atheism/secularism.
3. God is against adultery.
4. God is against blasphemy and mockery of Prophets of God.
5. God is against stealing, and invading countries for their material wealth.
6. God is against slander, murder and jealousy.
7. God is against pre-marital sex.

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[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]Why not let him be? :| Just because he is homosexual, doesn't mean he cannot believe in god or be religious. And don't always follow what the bible says. More like guidelines than actual fact, IMO.DDX2

What are the facts then?

does there have to be facts?

Indeed. Facts are not part of the equation in these matters.

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.LJS9502_basic

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

Can we stick to one religion here and not jump around and argue two different ideologies.

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.LJS9502_basic

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]Why not let him be? :| Just because he is homosexual, doesn't mean he cannot believe in god or be religious. And don't always follow what the bible says. More like guidelines than actual fact, IMO.DDX2

What are the facts then?

does there have to be facts?

if you want a reson to live, then yes...

[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Reread what you quoted and noticed that basically anyone having premarital sex is in the same boat.;)Proobie44

What does that have to do with anything??

You've misinterpreted the text and want to preach....the wrong facts...to someone who is undoubtedly familiar with the Bible as he was reading it.

Um excuse me but wtf are you talking about. How did I misinterpret anything? I took those words straight out of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Men who lie with men, wtf else could it mean?

Yeah, actually I AM A JEHOVAHS WITNESS. YES I AM RELIGIOUS!!!

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Reread what you quoted and noticed that basically anyone having premarital sex is in the same boat.;)Lil_Dwayne

What does that have to do with anything??

You've misinterpreted the text and want to preach....the wrong facts...to someone who is undoubtedly familiar with the Bible as he was reading it.

Um excuse me but wtf are you talking about. How did I misinterpret anything? I took those words straight out of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Men who lie with men, wtf else could it mean?

Why the **** do you care? >_>

I dont.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.Proobie44

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

Can we stick to one religion here and not jump around and argue two different ideologies.

The Bible is the amalgamation of the Old and New Testaments. You can't pick and choose what you like. :roll: The 10 Commandments are also from the Old Testament.... *sigh*

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"]

[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]And somewhere in this thread I read somebody stating that Jesus might be homosexual????? WHat!!! How did you come to that conclusion?dlp21

Well, Jesus might not have had a wife. And so, that leaves the discussion open for him hiding his wife, him having an affair, lots of possibilities. I'm not saying he was, but still. And I know, it's like saying that oranges could have been yellow, but still.

Or being as he was part God.....no interest in sex.;)

Embodied as a man, to live among us, and feel our pain, no one ever said that Jesus was uncapable of sin.

if he sinned, I wouldn't believe in God... but he didn't so...

[QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"]

[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]And somewhere in this thread I read somebody stating that Jesus might be homosexual????? WHat!!! How did you come to that conclusion?LJS9502_basic

Well, Jesus might not have had a wife. And so, that leaves the discussion open for him hiding his wife, him having an affair, lots of possibilities. I'm not saying he was, but still. And I know, it's like saying that oranges could have been yellow, but still.

Or being as he was part God.....no interest in sex.;)

Yeah. That'd be pretty funny.

Whore: Hey Jesus, looking for a good time?

Jesus: Sorry, God told me I couldn't do this.

Whore: Why not?

Jesus: I don't know, something about dying for everyone's sins or something.

Which also makes me wonder; since Jesus was a carpenter, did he just keep some spare nails in his pocket for a "just in case it's tomorrow" factor?

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What are the facts then?

ayanami_rei

Well if you are studying the bible and claim youre religious then I am pretty sure you accept it as facts, as this guy probably does.

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]*Sigh* The bible also says you should kill your family if they follow a different religion. It also say that women were created to be amusement for men and that it's a sin to eat pork. I can't really take much of what the bible say seriously.battlefront23

WHERE does it say any of these thing besides the last one! And the last one was for Jews! You guys are so... uninformed!

1.I follow the NT, and I don't take everything in the OT literally....

2. Yeah? So? God said it was a sin to be uncircumsized, that seems normal to me...

3. For JEWS! JEWS!

4. WTH! How do you get that from it saying a woman will have pain in childbirth and to be sumbmissive to their husbands!

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

What are the facts then?

Lil_Dwayne

Well if you are studying the bible and claim youre religious then I am pretty sure you accept it as facts, as this guy probably does.

Every. Last. Person. Picks and chooses what parts the like and which parts they don't to listen to. >_>

Embodied as a man, to live among us, and feel our pain, no one ever said that Jesus was uncapable of sin.

dlp21

He resisted temptations....it's in the NT...so yeah...He didn't sin...plus being as He was God and could perform miracles...I'd think He could avoid doing what He preached against.;)

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Um excuse me but wtf are you talking about. How did I misinterpret anything? I took those words straight out of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Men who lie with men, wtf else could it mean?

LJS9502_basic

Don't have sex. THAT'S what it means...not your interpretation. Things were a bit more prudish back in the day...

No it doesnt. It means males who lie with males will not make it into god's kingdom. I cant understand how someone can twist the simple verse around! Lie as in sex. Men who have sex with men. Jeez man.

The Bible is the amalgamation of the Old and New Testaments. You can't pick and choose what you like. :roll: The 10 Commandments are also from the Old Testament.... *sigh*

Hoobinator

And yet the books preach vastly different things....not the same dude.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

Um excuse me but wtf are you talking about. How did I misinterpret anything? I took those words straight out of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Men who lie with men, wtf else could it mean?

Lil_Dwayne

Don't have sex. THAT'S what it means...not your interpretation. Things were a bit more prudish back in the day...

No it doesnt. It means males who lie with males will not make it into god's kingdom. I cant understand how someone can twist the simple verse around! Lie as in sex. Men who have sex with men. Jeez man.

Reread YOUR ENTIRE BIBLICAL SCRIPTURE again dude....you missed the entire point of what you quoted...which doesn't back up your argument.:roll:

Well if you are studying the bible and claim youre religious then I am pretty sure you accept it as facts, as this guy probably does.

Lil_Dwayne

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

The Bible is the amalgamation of the Old and New Testaments. You can't pick and choose what you like. :roll: The 10 Commandments are also from the Old Testament.... *sigh*

LJS9502_basic

And yet the books preach vastly different things....not the same dude.

I know that Christians focus primarily on the New Testament and the Old Testament is not the same as the Torah which the Jews follow, but you can't dismiss what is written in the Old Testament outright. Jesus came to reinforce Judaic Law, i.e. Law = Torah and add to it, not necessarily overwrite it. So yes the Old Testament to a Christian is still relevant.

There's a reason why the Old Testament is part of most Bibles, though some only have the New Testament. Again you can't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you like or don't.

I know that Christians focus primarily on the New Testament and the Old Testament is not the same as the Torah which the Jews follow, but you can't dismiss what is written in the Old Testament outright. Jesus came to reinforce Judaic Law, i.e. Law = Torah and add to it, not necessarily overwrite it. So yes the Old Testament to a Christian is still relevant.

There's a reason why the Old Testament is part of most Bibles, though some only have the New Testament. Again you can't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you like or don't.

Hoobinator

well king james thought he could :|

Bible was written by MAN...NOT God. Though I don't swing that way, as long as they are good people I'm sure they'll have a place in heaven.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

The Bible is the amalgamation of the Old and New Testaments. You can't pick and choose what you like. :roll: The 10 Commandments are also from the Old Testament.... *sigh*

Hoobinator

And yet the books preach vastly different things....not the same dude.

I know that Christians focus primarily on the New Testament and the Old Testament is not the same as the Torah which the Jews follow, but you can't dismiss what is written in the Old Testament outright. Jesus came to reinforce Judaic Law, i.e. Law = Torah and add to it, not necessarily overwrite it. So yes the Old Testament to a Christian is still relevant.

There's a reason why the Old Testament is part of most Bibles, though some only have the New Testament. Again you can't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you like or don't.

Um...it may surprise you but Christians see the OT as a companion book that tells the story of God's relationship with His people and His covenant with them to send a savior/messiah. However, that said....Christians don't follow Judaic laws at all. What the Jewish people believe in relation to their religion is NOT the same as what Christians believe and follow. So if the NT contradicts the OT...it's not picking and choosing...it's following a different religion.:|

[QUOTE="Proobie44"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Reread what you quoted and noticed that basically anyone having premarital sex is in the same boat.;)Lil_Dwayne

What does that have to do with anything??

You've misinterpreted the text and want to preach....the wrong facts...to someone who is undoubtedly familiar with the Bible as he was reading it.

Um excuse me but wtf are you talking about. How did I misinterpret anything? I took those words straight out of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Men who lie with men, wtf else could it mean?

Yeah, actually I AM A JEHOVAHS WITNESS. YES I AM RELIGIOUS!!!

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

I know that Christians focus primarily on the New Testament and the Old Testament is not the same as the Torah which the Jews follow, but you can't dismiss what is written in the Old Testament outright. Jesus came to reinforce Judaic Law, i.e. Law = Torah and add to it, not necessarily overwrite it. So yes the Old Testament to a Christian is still relevant.

There's a reason why the Old Testament is part of most Bibles, though some only have the New Testament. Again you can't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you like or don't.

blooddemon666

well king james thought he could :|

King James Bibles have the Old Testament, at least the ones I have come across.

King James Bibles have the Old Testament, at least the ones I have come across.

Hoobinator

but he cut out huge chunks of both testamets to make himself seem better. He had divorced his wife, was an adulterer among other things, and the stories from the bible that touch on those issues are strangely absent from the king james version of the bible.... hmmm

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

The Bible is the amalgamation of the Old and New Testaments. You can't pick and choose what you like. :roll: The 10 Commandments are also from the Old Testament.... *sigh*

LJS9502_basic

And yet the books preach vastly different things....not the same dude.

I know that Christians focus primarily on the New Testament and the Old Testament is not the same as the Torah which the Jews follow, but you can't dismiss what is written in the Old Testament outright. Jesus came to reinforce Judaic Law, i.e. Law = Torah and add to it, not necessarily overwrite it. So yes the Old Testament to a Christian is still relevant.

There's a reason why the Old Testament is part of most Bibles, though some only have the New Testament. Again you can't pick and choose which parts of the Bible you like or don't.

Um...it may surprise you but Christians see the OT as a companion book that tells the story of God's relationship with His people and His covenant with them to send a savior/messiah. However, that said....Christians don't follow Judaic laws at all. What the Jewish people believe in relation to their religion is NOT the same as what Christians believe and follow. So if the NT contradicts the OT...it's not picking and choosing...it's following a different religion.:|

But there are aspects of the OT which are still kept up within certain denominations of Christianity. Certainly not all, I know full well that Christians don't follow Judaic law, they don't observe Sabbath, there's no compulsion to face Jerusalem when praying, circumcision etc etc.

Romans 1:26.buldog300

I asked him if he was pretty religious and he said yeah. Thats pretty weird, because God is against homosexuality...

1 Corinthians Chapter 6 verse 9: What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God's Kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men...

I just wanted to clear this up too, because Ive been hearing a lot of people say that God has nothing against homosexuality.

Do you guys think I should show my co worker this scripture tomorrow or what??

Lil_Dwayne

if you want to keep ur job......no

[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

What are the facts then?

PannicAtack

Well if you are studying the bible and claim youre religious then I am pretty sure you accept it as facts, as this guy probably does.

Every. Last. Person. Picks and chooses what parts the like and which parts they don't to listen to. >_>

Impossible. Then that person is not truly into their religion. Thats like telling your boss, ok, Ill clean the floor, wash the dishes, but Im NOT going to clean the bathrooms even though you told me to and its a part of my job. Do you think that person is going to get along with their boss? I think not.

Go ahead and tell him... but don't blame me when you get fired. :|

That's discrimination if you say anything.

Go ahead and tell him... but don't blame me when you get fired. :|

That's discrimination if you say anything.

scorch-62

Discrimination???? Wtf?

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Go ahead and tell him... but don't blame me when you get fired. :|

That's discrimination if you say anything.

Lil_Dwayne

Discrimination???? Wtf?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

What are the facts then?

Lil_Dwayne

Well if you are studying the bible and claim youre religious then I am pretty sure you accept it as facts, as this guy probably does.

Every. Last. Person. Picks and chooses what parts the like and which parts they don't to listen to. >_>

Impossible. Then that person is not truly into their religion. Thats like telling your boss, ok, Ill clean the floor, wash the dishes, but Im NOT going to clean the bathrooms even though you told me to and its a part of my job. Do you think that person is going to get along with their boss? I think not.

I think you should let him believe what he wants. Who are you to suggest anything else?MoonSpoon

and who are you to deny truth?

[QUOTE="MoonSpoon"]I think you should let him believe what he wants. Who are you to suggest anything else?aRE-you-AFraid

and who are you to deny truth?

That made me laugh pretty hard. Thanks.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]Go ahead and tell him... but don't blame me when you get fired. :|

That's discrimination if you say anything.Lil_Dwayne

Discrimination???? Wtf?

It's discrimination against a homosexual employee. If you tell him that God hates him & that his sexual orientation is against his own religion and he does the right thing by telling human resources, your ass is fired. Simple as that. :|

[QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Lil_Dwayne"][QUOTE="ayanami_rei"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

What are the facts then?

PannicAtack

Well if you are studying the bible and claim youre religious then I am pretty sure you accept it as facts, as this guy probably does.

Every. Last. Person. Picks and chooses what parts the like and which parts they don't to listen to. >_>

Impossible. Then that person is not truly into their religion. Thats like telling your boss, ok, Ill clean the floor, wash the dishes, but Im NOT going to clean the bathrooms even though you told me to and its a part of my job. Do you think that person is going to get along with their boss? I think not.

I asked him if he was pretty religious and he said yeah. Thats pretty weird, because God is against homosexuality...

1 Corinthians Chapter 6 verse 9: What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God's Kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men...

I just wanted to clear this up too, because Ive been hearing a lot of people say that God has nothing against homosexuality.

Do you guys think I should show my co worker this scripture tomorrow or what??

Lil_Dwayne