A Man's Eyes Stiched Shut. Another Man's Mouth Stiched Shut. Yes, It's Saw IV.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

RiSkyBiZ-13

It's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to appreciate a deep and philosophical screen writer... go back to "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it is that you watch.

lol...good job of defending the movie! I especially like how you said absolutely nothing in its defense.

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.DeathScape666

This isn't Hostel. The only time the Saw series had any sexual related themes in it was in the third one. There was a lady freezing to death with absolutely no clothes on. You saw her breasts, but that was it. The other two had nothing like that. And it's not like Saw doesn't have a plot. It does.

I agree. SAW at least try to have a story, while HOSTEL is just stupid

[QUOTE="RoflSponge"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=346234

The firsts four minutes... and one second of Saw IV is right there. I think it has the best beginning of any Saw movie I've ever seen. I forgot what happens at the beginning of the third, though. I don't think there is any brutal act at the beginning of that one, is there?

Anyways, check it out. It's really cool, and I know I'll love this one even more than the last three.

DeathScape666

You obviously don't remember the guy with the hooks :lol:

Ah, yes, now I remember! I wasn't sure if that was at the beginning or not. The third one had a lot of games in it.

Saw is one of my favorite series, ever. Maybe even my favorite one, ever. I am interesed to see what happens with Jigsaw being dead in this one. That lady in his visions- his ex-wife, I believe- may be featured in this one. I hope so.

Also, wasn't there some tape at the end of the third one that was never played? I never really expected them to make a fourth one, but I guess I was wrong!

I don't remember that. I just remember [spoiler] Whatshisface killing Jigsaw, and then the tape saying that Jigsaw was the last test, and he failed. [/spoiler]

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

MrGeezer

***spoiler***

If you're referring to the first movie, the barbed wire maze- it wasn't drug use. The man cut himself for attention, hence the line "How many more times will you cut yourself to live?" In other words, if the guy really wanted to kill himself by cutting, he would have just sat where he was, got sealed in that "tomb", and died.

My only problem with the Saw movies is that you know there is some wierdo in the theatre taking notes, thinking this is a really good idea...

Another Halloween, another Saw movie. It's apperent the Lionsgate doesn't really give too craps about the qualityof the actuall movie as long as they can make decent bank off the filmgoers

Hallenbeck77

Whoah whoah whoah! Halloween's directed by Rob Zombie, that's got to spark at least a little interest!

These types of movies are getting lame and pathetic now.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

MrGeezer

It's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to appreciate a deep and philosophical screen writer... go back to "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it is that you watch.

lol...good job of defending the movie! I especially like how you said absolutely nothing in its defense.

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.MrGeezer

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.USmellLikePoopy

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

300 doesnt have much of anything in the plot department. its just a bunch of guys in steroids killing people then having buckets of computer generated blood pour out.
curtkobain

True enough, but that blood did look pretty!

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.Sora529

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

Finally someone that actually watched the movie.

Saw is the next Friday the 13th.
kingkilla3

Possibly the worst analogy ever. How did you come to that conclusion?

[QUOTE="kingkilla3"]Saw is the next Friday the 13th.
RiSkyBiZ-13

Possibly the worst analogy ever. How did you come to that conclusion?

Too many sequels.

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.Scienceblows

Just because you've seen it before, doesn't mean everyone else has. So don't post stupid comments that don't spark up any real discussion.

i haven't.

so...you are wrong.

SAW has lost its freshness as a scary movie. I have never thought that gore can become a bore, but SAW made it happen.

Yes, SAW might have some philosophical meaning behind it, but it is obvious that people do not go watch SAW for that. The same thing goes with Titanic an Star Wars. The only reason they have a story is because they need a story to show off the special effects. SAW needs something to display its gore and sadistic torture elements to satisfy those who enjoy watching other people's suffering.

Who doesn't like to watch people suffer? Don't you just love to watch people getting rejected from American Idol and make fun at them?

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.Sora529

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

"Imma give you a candle, cover you in flammable oil, and make you read this OVER 9000!!!! long combination and try to get the cure. Dont worries, you can do it, lolz"

I dont think it matters, as most users on GS arent old enough to see Saw IV without their parents there.B05T0N

good point.

Who doesn't like to watch people suffer?

yian

That's true- it's called the news. CNN never did bad in the ratings.

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]I dont think it matters, as most users on GS arent old enough to see Saw IV without their parents there.RiSkyBiZ-13

good point.

Too many sequels.kingkilla3

[QUOTE="Sora529"][QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.Def_Jef88

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

"Imma give you a candle, cover you in flammable oil, and make you read this OVER 9000!!!! long combination and try to get the cure. Dont worries, you can do it, lolz"

Yeah lol. You posted exactly what I was thinking. Jigsaw killed him and the dude that had to climb through the barbwire. I mean wtf there is nothing special that you can do to try and crawl through barbwire. I do like the saw movies though, despite the fact that some of the tests are literally impossible. And btw this video is seriously old as hell. This video was shown at comic-con and that was in May I think. Whoever posted this is only 4 months off...

the first was good with the twist now they are just gore movies that suck....

I dont think it matters, as most users on GS arent old enough to see Saw IV without their parents there.B05T0N

It's so easy to sneak in. Just purchase a ticket for a different movie and go in and see Saw IV!

The only time I ever came close to get caught was last year when I saw Saw III. I was in the middle of the seats. There were five of us. It was the opening day, so they were checking tickets. I sprinted out of my seat and to another seat. When the lady got up to my friends, they said the empty seat in the middle was someone's father, and that he would be back soon from the bathroom. It worked. I had to sit on the side, though, just incase they came back. But they would be like, "Why is your father taking so long? Is he taking a crap?" I would be mad if I got caught. No one tells me what I can and cannot watch!

I dont think it matters, as most users on GS arent old enough to see Saw IV without their parents there.B05T0N

LOL :P

Age restrictions never stopped me. Of course I hated these movies anyway...

And I think that most of them are atleast 15.

Great, another Saw movie. The first one was good, but I can't see what the hype is.

After reading about the others, I realized that only the third one had a great story, and most of the time, it's just a bunch of gore scenes so that teenagers can talk about how awesome gore is. Every person my age seems to love Saw, for nothing but the gore.

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.Sora529

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

Oh my God... I cannot believe people are defending the morality of someone torturing people basically to death. Like... do you really believe that's actually even remotely passable as moral in any situation ever?

That is my main problem with these movies. People watch them and go "wow, that's deep, like, those people got tortured nearly to death and now they like appreciate life and junk". Excuse me, what? Doing that stuff makes the guy nothing more than a complete maniac. He's not doing anything right at all ever. If you like the movies, then that's fine, whatever floats your boat, I suppose but please don't try to pass them of as deep or philosophical.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

curtkobain

It's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to appreciate a deep and philosophical screen writer... go back to "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it is that you watch.

lol...good job of defending the movie! I especially like how you said absolutely nothing in its defense.

And 300 ****ing sucked.

What's your point?

[QUOTE="curtkobain"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

MrGeezer

It's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to appreciate a deep and philosophical screen writer... go back to "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it is that you watch.

lol...good job of defending the movie! I especially like how you said absolutely nothing in its defense.

And 300 ****ing sucked.

What's your point?

:lol:

You are the best poster ever.

[QUOTE="Sora529"][QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.GTALoco

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

Oh my God... I cannot believe people are defending the morality of someone torturing people basically to death. Like... do you really believe that's actually even remotely passable as moral in any situation ever?

That is my main problem with these movies. People watch them and go "wow, that's deep, like, those people got tortured nearly to death and now they like appreciate life and junk". Excuse me, what? Doing that stuff makes the guy nothing more than a complete maniac. He's not doing anything right at all ever. If you like the movies, then that's fine, whatever floats your boat, I suppose but please don't try to pass them of as deep or philosophical.

Jigsaw's lost his mind. It pretty much makes that clear in the first movie. Jigsaw just uses dirty people. He's not a teacher of any kind. He doesn't spread anything other than fear. He doesn't teach anyone anything. He's a psycho bastard.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.USmellLikePoopy

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

No, he doesn't make people realize what they did was wrong. He murders them.

How many of his victims walked away with important life lessons? How many of them decide to change their ways?

Exactly. The tests are not designed to be survived. They are not done for the benefit of the victims, since the victims end up very very dead. They are done solely for the benefit of the Jigsaw killer, who is just a dirty ass hater. He's jealous that he's gonna die, so he decides to hate on people by murdering them and comes up with bullcrap excuses for it.

Not that there's necesarily anything wrong with that, if there was something else to the movie. But there isn't. That's all it is. We get to see a hater come up with dumbass excuses for why he's murdering people just because he's jealous. Torture porn. It's totally devoid of any redeeming value.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.USmellLikePoopy

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

When Jigsaw starts rounding up serial rapists, serial killers, child molesters/baby eaters, and then puts them through these tests, let me know. As far as I'm concerned, a heroin addiction or being a cutter and hating your life doesn't mean you deserve to have a mechanical device wired to your jaw so you can cut up some other drugged loser so you can keep your body from being pointlessly mutilated. Dodging taxes, stealing gas, blackmailing, and fraud don't constitute being forced to wade through acid, explosives, fire, exposure, and pointless death. I realize some of his victims are pretty dirty people, but for the most part, few crimes should be repayed with torture to that extent. That is inhuman.

[QUOTE="Sora529"][QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.GTALoco

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

Yep. And actually, Jogsaw does CLEARLY allow for the people to pass the tests. Its whether or not they are willing to go far enough that is the question.

Oh my God... I cannot believe people are defending the morality of someone torturing people basically to death. Like... do you really believe that's actually even remotely passable as moral in any situation ever?

That is my main problem with these movies. People watch them and go "wow, that's deep, like, those people got tortured nearly to death and now they like appreciate life and junk". Excuse me, what? Doing that stuff makes the guy nothing more than a complete maniac. He's not doing anything right at all ever. If you like the movies, then that's fine, whatever floats your boat, I suppose but please don't try to pass them of as deep or philosophical.

Well, actually, no one in the movie, besides Jigsaw and Amanda, ever think that what he's doing is right. I mean, the police wouldn't stop them if they thought "he was teaching them a nice lesson." No, Jigsaw may be heartless, but he thinks what he is doing is right, so he continues his insane acts. I don't think anyone really thinks that what he does is right. For example, in the second one, a father and a son have problems with each other and hate each other. Does that mean that they should be killed or tortured? No, not at all. Does Jigsaw think so? Yes.

Also, in the first Saw movie, Amanda (This was before we knew she was the apprentice of Jigsaw.) said that she appreciated life more after being through one of Jigsaw's games. Of course, she forgets about it after awhile and cuts herself again, as we find out in the second one.

[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]

Another Halloween, another Saw movie. It's apperent the Lionsgate doesn't really give too craps about the qualityof the actuall movie as long as they can make decent bank off the filmgoers

RiSkyBiZ-13

Whoah whoah whoah! Halloween's directed by Rob Zombie, that's got to spark at least a little interest!

When I said another Halloween Another Saw film, I was referring to the fact that every year, a Saw film is released around Halloween time.

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]I dont think it matters, as most users on GS arent old enough to see Saw IV without their parents there.fkholmes

LOL :P

Age restrictions never stopped me. Of course I hated these movies anyway...

And I think that most of them are atleast 15.

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="USmellLikePoopy"]This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.MrGeezer

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.

I think you have anger problems. Also Jigsaw actually makes the people realize what they did was wrong. You should try to watch the movie with an open mind and pay attention.

No, he doesn't make people realize what they did was wrong. He murders them.

How many of his victims walked away with important life lessons? How many of them decide to change their ways?

Exactly. The tests are not designed to be survived. They are not done for the benefit of the victims, since the victims end up very very dead. They are done solely for the benefit of the Jigsaw killer, who is just a dirty ass hater. He's jealous that he's gonna die, so he decides to hate on people by murdering them and comes up with bullcrap excuses for it.

Not that there's necesarily anything wrong with that, if there was something else to the movie. But there isn't. That's all it is. We get to see a hater come up with dumbass excuses for why he's murdering people just because he's jealous. Torture porn. It's totally devoid of any redeeming value.