A question about attraction and age.

So I've been curious about something. A few days ago, I was traveling home at the airport. Walking towards my connecting flight, I spotted a female that very much stood out from the crowd. I mean, this chick was an absolute stunner. It was all good, until she turned around and I saw her face. She could not have been more than 15-16 tops. But I can easily tell you that she had the figure of a fully grown woman.

Now, I'm not a pedophile. I find the idea of any type of sexual contact with children plain out sickening and abhorrent. I'm probably a lot older than most on this site (33), but I ask you......do you think I'm sick for being heavily attracted to this girl who couldn't have been more than half my age? Is it abnormal? Why? She's obviously sexually mature. I'm the same. I don't see the problem there, as many people seem to. I'm obviously not attracted to her mentally or emotionally as I don't know her, it's purely a superficial attraction.

I guess I'm just curious as to how pedophilia is determined, and if I'd fit that description? I'd like tothink I don't, but can't help but feel like I'm commiting a crime here by simply being attracted. How can one use physicality as any sort of barometer when some women mature much earlier than others? And why should guys be ostracized with such a terrible label for simply feeling what their biology and nature has programmed them to? So then it entirely breaks down to how mentally mature she/he is, right? Wrong?

So, how is all this determined exactly? It's all very arbitrary and gray in my eyes.

*Mods.....don't know if this type of thread's allowed, if not I apologize, but I browsed the ToU and didn't see anything pertaining to it*

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

sherman-tank1

It's completely normal, even natural. Society is what makes us feel bad being attracted to youth. I know the age difference is completely different but I met my friend's girlfriend's sister and I was incredibly attracted to her, until I found out she was 15, I'm 20. It was the first time I'd ever been attracted to someone so much younger than me. I felt pretty dirty, but in the end it's normal.

Finding her attractive, and leaving it at that, isn't a problem. You weren't attracted to her for her age and as long as you don't pursue someone that age or fantasize about them I think it's fine.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

rawsavon

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

rawsavon

no,she could have been fully developed(at least physically),its perfectly normal to find her attractive

If she had the body of a full grown woman like you said and is 15-16, it's not really pedophilia. I'm sure it's not legal to engage sexual acts with her or anything, but not pedophilia. (I'm young, so I'm not too knowledgable about these things, excuse me if I'm wrong about something.)

Now, if she had the body of a loli, well, that's a different subject.

Theres nothing wrong with that. Personally 15-16 years old shouldn't even be a grey area, since girls that age are sexually mature enough to have sex. I've seen girls that could be no more than 13 yet have an amazing fully developed body, but you could tell by the face. I'm 25 and I have a regular sexual appetite like any other guy. If I see a great female body regardless of age, I'm gonna look. Obviously if she's too young, I would never act on it and anything under 15 for me personally is just bad, even if she was developed. I would look, but never touch.

Its natural and always has been since the dawn of mankind. Theres nothing wrong with you TC.

[All I can say is life is complicated isn't it? I don't have enough time to explain more clearly as I should of but I might be able to later. Who knows.

sherman-tank1

Life is complicated...that does nothing to change that attribution of fault to the individual

I agree. Serial killers can't help it, but it doesn't mean it's not their fault. Not that I'm comparing OP to a serial killer in any way, is just an example of logic.SeraphimGoddess

Glad someone was picking up what I was dropping.
-I was not saying anything about the TC either (see my OP). But that does not mean that the fault does not lie with the individual...as you pointed out as well

I don't see a huge problem considering 16 is legal in many places.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

rawsavon

Theres nothing wrong with that. Personally 15-16 years old shouldn't even be a grey area, since girls that age are sexually mature enough to have sex. I've seen girls that could be no more than 13 yet have an amazing fully developed body, but you could tell by the face. I'm 25 and I have a regular sexual appetite like any other guy. If I see a great female body regardless of age, I'm gonna look. Obviously if she's too young, I would never act on it and anything under 15 for me personally is just bad, even if she was developed. I would look, but never touch.

Its natural and always has been since the dawn of mankind. Theres nothing wrong with you TC.

KamuiFei

I've never understood guys who just....stare.....at girls.

It creeps me out. Are they trying to accomplish something/get the girls attention...or....do they not know what they are doing? Drawing a blank, so to speak. Like my cat when she notices a bird from our balcony...she just sits and stares at the bird...makes the occasional grumbling noise.

Needless to say, i don't get along with very many guys :P (i am a guy by the way :oops: )

I don't think there's anything wrong with that so long as you don't saunter over to and deflower her where she stands.super_mario_128

If you go by the age formula, 16 is too young.

(age/2)+7

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

If you go by the age formula, 16 is too young.

(age/2)+7

topsemag55

Could someone please tell me where said formula comes from?

Your age/2 + 7 (the equation everyone here loves so much) is definitely not 15-16.

It's a little sick, yeah.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

Kaim91

[QUOTE="Kaim91"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] ...that is not true at all, though it does exemplify a growing trend in societal views on behavior and thinking. Just b/c you can't help something does not mean that it is not your fault. When people have disorders, we usually try and correct things about the person...this would not be the case if the fault did not come from within...from themrawsavon

Shouldn't that mean the insanity plea should not exist?

[QUOTE="Kaim91"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] ...that is not true at all, though it does exemplify a growing trend in societal views on behavior and thinking. Just b/c you can't help something does not mean that it is not your fault. When people have disorders, we usually try and correct things about the person...this would not be the case if the fault did not come from within...from themkipohippo021

I never said there was anything to correct about TC...read my OP.

...remember that things always appear different when you jump in mid conversation

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Kaim91"]

So you're saying emotions can be controlled? That pedophiles feel the way they do because they want to? That homosexuals feel the way they do because they chose it? All the TC said was that he could feel attracted to girls at the age of around 16, which is not his fault. It would only be his fault if he actually hit on the girl, which I think is okay when they're at that age. Same as a pedophile is only to blame if he actually abuses a child.

Pixel-Pirate

Shouldn't that mean the insanity plea should not exist?

I'm soarly dissapointed with all of you....this was your chance to make a 33 year old guy question himself and think of himself as a pedo....and you ruined......for shame...for shame all of you...:evil: :POmni-Slash

i bet if u saw this young adult u would feel the same way. im so glad im 15. i could get with her

Human psychology man...

Males of our race are "psychologically" attracted to females of child-bearing age (13 to ~26 (26 is when female fertility starts to decline)) in good physical form (as it is a sign of their good health and ability to bear healthy children)...

Similarly psychologically females are attracted to older men capable of supporting them and their offspring...

Goes back to caveman times... Though it has obviously declined in modern history... Just talking about that in psychology recently as a matter of fact...

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] A lack of the ability to control something is not indicative of a lack of fault in the manner

rawsavon

Shouldn't that mean the insanity plea should not exist?

Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Theres nothing wrong with that. Personally 15-16 years old shouldn't even be a grey area, since girls that age are sexually mature enough to have sex. I've seen girls that could be no more than 13 yet have an amazing fully developed body, but you could tell by the face. I'm 25 and I have a regular sexual appetite like any other guy. If I see a great female body regardless of age, I'm gonna look. Obviously if she's too young, I would never act on it and anything under 15 for me personally is just bad, even if she was developed. I would look, but never touch.

Its natural and always has been since the dawn of mankind. Theres nothing wrong with you TC.

Joshywaa

I've never understood guys who just....stare.....at girls.

It creeps me out. Are they trying to accomplish something/get the girls attention...or....do they not know what they are doing? Drawing a blank, so to speak. Like my cat when she notices a bird from our balcony...she just sits and stares at the bird...makes the occasional grumbling noise.

Needless to say, i don't get along with very many guys :P (i am a guy by the way :oops: )

[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Theres nothing wrong with that. Personally 15-16 years old shouldn't even be a grey area, since girls that age are sexually mature enough to have sex. I've seen girls that could be no more than 13 yet have an amazing fully developed body, but you could tell by the face. I'm 25 and I have a regular sexual appetite like any other guy. If I see a great female body regardless of age, I'm gonna look. Obviously if she's too young, I would never act on it and anything under 15 for me personally is just bad, even if she was developed. I would look, but never touch.

Its natural and always has been since the dawn of mankind. Theres nothing wrong with you TC.

johny300

I've never understood guys who just....stare.....at girls.

It creeps me out. Are they trying to accomplish something/get the girls attention...or....do they not know what they are doing? Drawing a blank, so to speak. Like my cat when she notices a bird from our balcony...she just sits and stares at the bird...makes the occasional grumbling noise.

Needless to say, i don't get along with very many guys :P (i am a guy by the way :oops: )

I notice attractive girls, for sure...

But...i don't know...i just don't understand most guys' train of thought.

I don't feel like ranting :P

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Shouldn't that mean the insanity plea should not exist?

Pixel-Pirate

Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

rawsavon

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Are you asking my opinion or about the legality

Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Theres nothing wrong with that. Personally 15-16 years old shouldn't even be a grey area, since girls that age are sexually mature enough to have sex. I've seen girls that could be no more than 13 yet have an amazing fully developed body, but you could tell by the face. I'm 25 and I have a regular sexual appetite like any other guy. If I see a great female body regardless of age, I'm gonna look. Obviously if she's too young, I would never act on it and anything under 15 for me personally is just bad, even if she was developed. I would look, but never touch.

Its natural and always has been since the dawn of mankind. Theres nothing wrong with you TC.

Joshywaa

I've never understood guys who just....stare.....at girls.

It creeps me out. Are they trying to accomplish something/get the girls attention...or....do they not know what they are doing? Drawing a blank, so to speak. Like my cat when she notices a bird from our balcony...she just sits and stares at the bird...makes the occasional grumbling noise.

Needless to say, i don't get along with very many guys :P (i am a guy by the way :oops: )

Well I never said I stare at girls lol ( I use the "looking at the sun" theory). I'm merely saying its not wrong to a look at a fully developed young woman, because guys will be guys, even if that girl was 15-16. If she's attractive she's gonna get looked at.And it wouldn't be like trying to accomplish anything really, but if I really wanted the girl's attention, I'd walk up and talk to her. :)

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Are you asking my opinion or about the legality

rawsavon

Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.

I can't say I agree. If one is not in control then one really cannot be blamed. This extends to cases outside of mental illness such as the case where a man slept-drove to someones house and killed them. He was sleeping the entire time. Was he at fault even if he was not concious?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Dude I got one thing of advise. If you can't help it, its not your fault. Don't feel bad.

kipohippo021

[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Theres nothing wrong with that. Personally 15-16 years old shouldn't even be a grey area, since girls that age are sexually mature enough to have sex. I've seen girls that could be no more than 13 yet have an amazing fully developed body, but you could tell by the face. I'm 25 and I have a regular sexual appetite like any other guy. If I see a great female body regardless of age, I'm gonna look. Obviously if she's too young, I would never act on it and anything under 15 for me personally is just bad, even if she was developed. I would look, but never touch.

Its natural and always has been since the dawn of mankind. Theres nothing wrong with you TC.

KamuiFei

I've never understood guys who just....stare.....at girls.

It creeps me out. Are they trying to accomplish something/get the girls attention...or....do they not know what they are doing? Drawing a blank, so to speak. Like my cat when she notices a bird from our balcony...she just sits and stares at the bird...makes the occasional grumbling noise.

Needless to say, i don't get along with very many guys :P (i am a guy by the way :oops: )

Well I never said I stare at girls lol ( I use the "looking at the sun" theory). I'm merely saying its not wrong to a look at a fully developed young woman, because guys will be guys, even if that girl was 15-16. If she's attractive she's gonna get looked at.And it wouldn't be like trying to accomplish anything really, but if I really wanted the girl's attention, I'd walk up and talk to her. :)

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.

Pixel-Pirate

I can't say I agree. If one is not in control then one really cannot be blamed. This extends to cases outside of mental illness such as the case where a man slept-drove to someones house and killed them. He was sleeping the entire time. Was he at fault even if he was not concious?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] What I meant was that legally we could never change it (no matter what anyone thinks)...unless we rewrite almost all of laws dealing with criminal and contract issues. My opinion is that the ability to control or understand is not required to establish fault in any matterrawsavon

I can't say I agree. If one is not in control then one really cannot be blamed. This extends to cases outside of mental illness such as the case where a man slept-drove to someones house and killed them. He was sleeping the entire time. Was he at fault even if he was not concious?

I can't say I agree.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Your opinion. Legally the insanity plea exists.

kipohippo021

That is even worse than what we are talking about (you are even more at fault) b/c you put yourself in that situation.

As I said to pixel:
Intent =/= fault