a scientific proof that GOD existes ... ( long read )...

7 pages of BS for this?! I don't have much "faith" in any of you. There is no "God". Deal with it.

Robbler

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]These threads make me sad :(xaos

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

Well what is your stance then? All this for nothing?

bloodling

I know, I mean, what is your stance (or the Bible's stance) on evolution?

Actually the Bible doesnt have a view of evolution in the context that we know of it today. But it does make it clear that God created human beings.

Speaking of TC I wonder where he went, he seemed to disappear pretty quickly.

Speaking of TC I wonder where he went, he seemed to disappear pretty quickly.

Ingenemployee

Edit: Or maybe he's KayoticDreams.

[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

Speaking of TC I wonder where he went, he seemed to disappear pretty quickly.

HerrJosefK

Edit: Or maybe he's KayoticDreams.

[spoiler] They're all Fred Savage [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

Speaking of TC I wonder where he went, he seemed to disappear pretty quickly.

Edit: Or maybe he's KayoticDreams.

[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

Speaking of TC I wonder where he went, he seemed to disappear pretty quickly.

HerrJosefK

Edit: Or maybe he's KayoticDreams.

I don't think so, maybe if one of their levels were lower. What is most likely is that TC found "his" post on a different site and thought that it sounded smart(lol) so he copy/pasted and made this thread When people started criticizing his post he had no way of defending it due to his lack of scientific understanding and that he did not come up with it in the first place, at least that's what I think.

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]his points are valid especilly the matter cant be created or destroyed part. this is perhaps what bugs me most about people being evolutionists. that we all came into existence out of nothing and then they try and tell me matter cant be created nor destroyed. it just doesnt connect as logical or possible at least the first one i dont know enough about the we are all spinning into a chaotic state if left alone theory or how well its been proven or tested. meanwhile my faiths teaching of God merely organized all the matter into its current form and then gave it life makes far more sense and is far more in line with matter cannot be created nor destroyed because God who made the universe and its laws isnt going to break those laws that hold the universe together else he would never of made the laws and created the universe in the first place. this however does not mean he cant part a red sea because he obviously knows just a tad bit more about physics than anybody on earth does and there could in fact be a very scientific within the laws of the universe reason or way he the red sea was parted. perhaps God has some power some force he executes to perform said miracles and by applying this force the universe complies with it because he is the master therefore he knows full well how to bend it to his will. which is no different than humans and inventing technology we are merely bending forces of nature to our will to create things. that also explains further how the earth can appear to be billions of years old if it was simply organized at some point rather than created. it also would hold further truth that God must of always existed by the very nature of matter was never created nor destroyed. personally i agree with that train of thought far more than big bang theory we evolved and came from nothingness and what do you know it still doesnt violate the matter c annot be created nor destroyed law and in fact applies perfectly.sSubZerOo

EXCEPT evolutionists DO NOT contend how the unvierse was created.. The big Bang is not the creation of the universe, just the earliest point, and the leading factor of what formed the universe in its current shape.. No where do "evolutionists" which is not even a term ever claimed how matter was created..

LOL thats the funniest gif ive ever seen.......*cough* wait what was we talking about now? :?

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

PRO TIP: There is no such thing as an evolutionist. Otherwise you would have to say that about every scientific theory. You don't call people Gravitists, cellists, relativatists, etc. just because they accept the theories or gravity, cells, and relativity. There are people that except scientific fact and people that don't.

R_Dawkins

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]his points are valid especilly the matter cant be created or destroyed part. this is perhaps what bugs me most about people being evolutionists. that we all came into existence out of nothing and then they try and tell me matter cant be created nor destroyed. it just doesnt connect as logical or possible at least the first one i dont know enough about the we are all spinning into a chaotic state if left alone theory or how well its been proven or tested. meanwhile my faiths teaching of God merely organized all the matter into its current form and then gave it life makes far more sense and is far more in line with matter cannot be created nor destroyed because God who made the universe and its laws isnt going to break those laws that hold the universe together else he would never of made the laws and created the universe in the first place. this however does not mean he cant part a red sea because he obviously knows just a tad bit more about physics than anybody on earth does and there could in fact be a very scientific within the laws of the universe reason or way he the red sea was parted. perhaps God has some power some force he executes to perform said miracles and by applying this force the universe complies with it because he is the master therefore he knows full well how to bend it to his will. which is no different than humans and inventing technology we are merely bending forces of nature to our will to create things. that also explains further how the earth can appear to be billions of years old if it was simply organized at some point rather than created. it also would hold further truth that God must of always existed by the very nature of matter was never created nor destroyed. personally i agree with that train of thought far more than big bang theory we evolved and came from nothingness and what do you know it still doesnt violate the matter c annot be created nor destroyed law and in fact applies perfectly.kayoticdreamz

EXCEPT evolutionists DO NOT contend how the unvierse was created.. The big Bang is not the creation of the universe, just the earliest point, and the leading factor of what formed the universe in its current shape.. No where do "evolutionists" which is not even a term ever claimed how matter was created..

First off it was an expansion not an explosion, second no scientist thinks it came from nothing.

im going to be serious here now

listen everything ive ever seen posted like this on Gamespot has been fed up with arguements about god/religon if u ask me i would be carefull posting things like this.......but its so obvious its a copy and paste

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

EXCEPT evolutionists DO NOT contend how the unvierse was created.. The big Bang is not the creation of the universe, just the earliest point, and the leading factor of what formed the universe in its current shape.. No where do "evolutionists" which is not even a term ever claimed how matter was created..

First off it was an expansion not an explosion, second no scientist thinks it came from nothing.

what point is there posting this its like throwin a nother battle into the athist vs. catholisism war i mean does it matter does it really matter if there is a god or not. look at it this way if ya die and go to heaven then whoopie:) you just die then fine(i just die)

but its death doesnt matter till it happens

Better proof: If Odin does not exist, then where does Thor come from?

Proof of Earth's Instant Creation as opposed to billions of years of development

Etched within Earth's foundation rocks - the granites - are beautiful microspheres of coloration, halos, produced by the radioactive decay of primordial polonium, which is known to have only a fleeting existence.

The following simple analogy will show how these polonium microspheres - or halos - contradict the evolutionary belief that granites formed as hot magma slowly cooled over millions of years. To the contrary, this analogy demonstrates how these halos provide unambiguous evidence of both an almost instantaneous creation of granites and the young age of the earth.

A speck of polonium in molten rock can be compared to an Alka-Seltzer dropped into a glass of water. The beginning of effervescence is equated to the moment that polonium atoms began to emit radiactive particles. In molten rock the traces of those radioactive particles would disappear as quickly as the Alka-Seltzer bubbles in water. But if the water were instantly frozen, the bubbles would be preserved. Likewise, polonium halos could have formed only if the rapidly "effervescing" specks of polonium had been instantly encased in solid rock.

An exceedingly large number of polonium halos are embedded in granites around the world. Just as frozen Alka-Seltzer bubbles would be clear evidence of the quick-freezing of the water, so are these many polonium halos undeniable evidence that a sea of primordial matter quickly "froze" into solid granite. The occurrence of these polonium halos, then, distinctly implies that our earth was formed in a very short time, in complete harmony with the biblical record of creation.

Taken from halos.com

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Does this prove God?

what point is there posting this its like throwin a nother battle into the athist vs. catholisism war i mean does it matter does it really matter if there is a god or not. look at it this way if ya die and go to heaven then whoopie:) you just die then fine(i just die)

but its death doesnt matter till it happens

tiopuit

Agreed

Proof of Earth's Instant Creation as opposed to billions of years of development

Etched within Earth's foundation rocks - the granites - are beautiful microspheres of coloration, halos, produced by the radioactive decay of primordial polonium, which is known to have only a fleeting existence.

The following simple analogy will show how these polonium microspheres - or halos - contradict the evolutionary belief that granites formed as hot magma slowly cooled over millions of years. To the contrary, this analogy demonstrates how these halos provide unambiguous evidence of both an almost instantaneous creation of granites and the young age of the earth.

A speck of polonium in molten rock can be compared to an Alka-Seltzer dropped into a glass of water. The beginning of effervescence is equated to the moment that polonium atoms began to emit radiactive particles. In molten rock the traces of those radioactive particles would disappear as quickly as the Alka-Seltzer bubbles in water. But if the water were instantly frozen, the bubbles would be preserved. Likewise, polonium halos could have formed only if the rapidly "effervescing" specks of polonium had been instantly encased in solid rock.

An exceedingly large number of polonium halos are embedded in granites around the world. Just as frozen Alka-Seltzer bubbles would be clear evidence of the quick-freezing of the water, so are these many polonium halos undeniable evidence that a sea of primordial matter quickly "froze" into solid granite. The occurrence of these polonium halos, then, distinctly implies that our earth was formed in a very short time, in complete harmony with the biblical record of creation.

Taken from halos.com

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Does this prove God?

KH-mixerX

"The pathetic thing about it is that many scientists are trying to prove the doctrine of evolution, which no science can do." - Dr. Robert A. Milikan, physicist and Nobel Prize winner.

"I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond he bounds of true science... It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and holes as sound parts." -Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian Desmond and James Moore

"To improve a living organism by random mutation is like saying you could improve a Swiss watch by dropping it and bending one of its wheels or axis. Improving life by random mutation has the probability of zero." -Albert Szent-Gyorgi, Nobel prize winning biochemist.

"If pressed about man's ancestry, I would have to unequivocally say that all we have is a huge question mark. To date, there is nothing found to truthfully purport as a transitional specie to man... If further pressed, I would have to state that there is more evidence to suggest an abrupt arrival of man rather than a gradual process of evolving." -Richard Leakey, world's foremost paleontologist.

"All of us who study the origin of life find that the more we look into it, the more we feel that it is too complex to have evolved anywhere. We believe as an article of faith that life evolved from dead matter on this planet. It is just that its complexity is so great, it is hard for us to imagine that it did." -Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Prize winner.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]his points are valid especilly the matter cant be created or destroyed part. this is perhaps what bugs me most about people being evolutionists. that we all came into existence out of nothing and then they try and tell me matter cant be created nor destroyed. it just doesnt connect as logical or possible at least the first one i dont know enough about the we are all spinning into a chaotic state if left alone theory or how well its been proven or tested. meanwhile my faiths teaching of God merely organized all the matter into its current form and then gave it life makes far more sense and is far more in line with matter cannot be created nor destroyed because God who made the universe and its laws isnt going to break those laws that hold the universe together else he would never of made the laws and created the universe in the first place. this however does not mean he cant part a red sea because he obviously knows just a tad bit more about physics than anybody on earth does and there could in fact be a very scientific within the laws of the universe reason or way he the red sea was parted. perhaps God has some power some force he executes to perform said miracles and by applying this force the universe complies with it because he is the master therefore he knows full well how to bend it to his will. which is no different than humans and inventing technology we are merely bending forces of nature to our will to create things. that also explains further how the earth can appear to be billions of years old if it was simply organized at some point rather than created. it also would hold further truth that God must of always existed by the very nature of matter was never created nor destroyed. personally i agree with that train of thought far more than big bang theory we evolved and came from nothingness and what do you know it still doesnt violate the matter c annot be created nor destroyed law and in fact applies perfectly.kayoticdreamz

EXCEPT evolutionists DO NOT contend how the unvierse was created.. The big Bang is not the creation of the universe, just the earliest point, and the leading factor of what formed the universe in its current shape.. No where do "evolutionists" which is not even a term ever claimed how matter was created..

..... What do explosions require in the real sense? FUEL THERE WAS ALREADY matter there to begin with, the expansion was what we call the explosion.. No where did it create anything except lead to the current form of our universe as we know it.

"The pathetic thing about it is that many scientists are trying to prove the doctrine of evolution, which no science can do." - Dr. Robert A. Milikan, physicist and Nobel Prize winner.

"I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond he bounds of true science... It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and holes as sound parts." -Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian Desmond and James Moore

"To improve a living organism by random mutation is like saying you could improve a Swiss watch by dropping it and bending one of its wheels or axis. Improving life by random mutation has the probability of zero." -Albert Szent-Gyorgi, Nobel prize winning biochemist.

"If pressed about man's ancestry, I would have to unequivocally say that all we have is a huge question mark. To date, there is nothing found to truthfully purport as a transitional specie to man... If further pressed, I would have to state that there is more evidence to suggest an abrupt arrival of man rather than a gradual process of evolving." -Richard Leakey, world's foremost paleontologist.

"All of us who study the origin of life find that the more we look into it, the more we feel that it is too complex to have evolved anywhere. We believe as an article of faith that life evolved from dead matter on this planet. It is just that its complexity is so great, it is hard for us to imagine that it did." -Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Prize winner.

KH-mixerX

What a absurd quote.. Yeah you know no evidence like a huge line of primates and human like spieces that we have discovered related closely to man.. Like Nienderthuls, Cromagnum men and many others.. He makes it sounds like we have found none such skeletons, but we have infact found numerous now extinct spieces that hold a sharp relation to homosapiens.

Pffh. I could easily just define God as the human psyche and that would be more scientific than what was posted in the OP. But then why would anyone want to believe in something that isn't a being that lives in the sky and watches us do everything?

"The pathetic thing about it is that many scientists are trying to prove the doctrine of evolution, which no science can do." - Dr. Robert A. Milikan, physicist and Nobel Prize winner. False as shown by mountains of tests and evidence that was not around in the early 1900's (when this guy said that)

"I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond he bounds of true science... It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and holes as sound parts." -Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian Desmond and James Moore again maybe true at the time but the theory now has more evidence for it than gravity. Science progresses

"To improve a living organism by random mutation is like saying you could improve a Swiss watch by dropping it and bending one of its wheels or axis. Improving life by random mutation has the probability of zero." -Albert Szent-Gyorgi, Nobel prize winning biochemist. Again, the quote is absurdly outdated.

"If pressed about man's ancestry, I would have to unequivocally say that all we have is a huge question mark. To date, there is nothing found to truthfully purport as a transitional specie to man... If further pressed, I would have to state that there is more evidence to suggest an abrupt arrival of man rather than a gradual process of evolving." -Richard Leakey, world's foremost paleontologist. Quit using outdated quotes. Science has progressed at a blinding pace in recent years and these quotes are less than worthless.

"All of us who study the origin of life find that the more we look into it, the more we feel that it is too complex to have evolved anywhere. We believe as an article of faith that life evolved from dead matter on this planet. It is just that its complexity is so great, it is hard for us to imagine that it did." -Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Prize winner. Can;t you find someone who did something notable in science in the past 10 or even 20 years?

KH-mixerX

Those quotes are absolutely meaningless in modern science. Fission Mailed.

Man, this is hilarious, I post a few quotes by some random people and everyone leaps on it like crazy. I'm not trying to prove anything. Nor do any of you need to refute me. Here's some things that might get your feathers ruffled.

Science's Unexplainable Creatures

Have you ever wondered how anything could evolve by chance? I believe that if evolution were true, which it is not, then when creatures evolved, they would evolve to a state where they are completely independent. They would not depend on other creatures or the environment to live. According to Charles Darwin, "If it could be proved that any part of the structure of any one species had been formed for the exclusive good of another species, it would annihilate my theory, for such could not have been produced through natural selection."

Now, to prove this point I am going to go through some of the creatures living on the planet that scientists have been unable to explain.

Eolidoidea:

Before we go into what an eolidoidea is, first we must discuss what an anenome is. An anenome is a creature that lives in the ocean. For a form of protection from predators, it has spines that inject poison into the body of the predator and kills it. And so the anenome lives to face the next day. However, the eolidoidea have small pockets in their stomachs that store the poison and use it as a form of defense against its predators, and it eats the rest of the anenome. Thus far, science has been unable to explain this creature and how it could have evolved by chance. I have the simple solution to this: God spoke it into being!


Giraffes:

Amazingly enough, giraffes are also hard to explain. A normal giraffe has a long neck, but how does it keep the blood flowing out of its head, or when it bends down to drink, how does it keep the blood from rushing to its head? It is all in the neck. You see, there are blood vessels running up and down the neck that push the blood up to the head when the giraffe is standing up. But when the giraffe puts its neck down, the vessels close up so that the blood doesn't all go into the head. If a giraffe would have evolved by chance, isn't it obvious that the head would have exploded before the vessels had fully evolved? I certainly think so.

White-throated Warblers:

I am going to start this section with a story. There once was a man who had two white-throated warblers in a cage inside a closed up room. There was no window- the only light that came was from an electrical source or a candle. One winter, he noticed that the birds were moving towards the southern side of the cage. Now how on earth did they know that it was winter and that they were supposed to go south? This behaviour is very common among these birds in the wild. The warblers will lay their eggs in Germany, then leave and go to Egypt for the winter. As soon as the eggs hatch and the chicks are able to fly, they go join their parents. How do they know where to go? Scientists have looked at other migrating species and learned that it is not only warblers, but also pigeons, monarch butterflies and others that do this. In order to figure out how they do it, scientists decided to track a pigeon on its flight path. They noticed that the birds did not necessarily use the sun because the flight pattern didn't change when the day was overcast. To test whether or not it was the earth's magnetic field that they were using, the scientists tied an electronic device to the bird and let it loose. The bird did fine when the sun was out, but once clouds covered the sky, they didn't know where they were going. But yet how could they have learned how to use the magnetic field of earth to go south? Obviously it could not have happened by chance. Someone or something had to have told these animals that when the climate is this way, go that way or something. Is it really possible for them to have figured it out on their own?

Castorocauda lutrasimilis:

Scientists have recently found a fossil supposedly dating back millions of years to the Jurassic period. This creature is a mouse-type animal. It has (or had,depending on your viewpoint) the tail of a beaver, the teeth of a seal, the habits of a platypus, hair and sweat glands that modern mammals have, and was about ten times bigger than most mammals from that period were thought to have been. Scientists are now saying that this find proved that mammals were much farther advanced much earlier in the timeline that previously thought. It also supports the fact that mammals were here much earlier before the supposed extinction of the dinosaurs. This animal is just one more proof that God created the creatures of the earth almost simultaneously.

Jurassic Shrimp:

Scientists on the coast of Australia have just unearthed another 'living fossil.' The Jurassic Shrimp are a shrimp genus that was thought to have died out about 50 million years ago. The marine biologists were looking at the life in the Australian seas when they found one of these crustaceans. Scientists knew what it was because it was well known from the Jurassic and Cretaceous periods of time. However, these shrimp were supposed to be extinct. This is similar to another find in the Philippines in the 1970's. A team of fisherman were out getting their daily catch when they caught a ceolacanth. This fish was first rediscovered in 1938 off the coast of South Africa, and there was a second species of the ceolacanth found in Indonesia in 1997. The so-called living fossils did not go extinct during the time-period that was previously thought. Our world is a big one. Could there possibly be more finds like these out there?

I'm not trying to prove anything... This animal is just one more proof that God created the creatures of the earth almost simultaneously.

KH-mixerX

TC, look up on Thomas Kuhns writings on paradigms and paradigms shifts

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

I'm not trying to prove anything... This animal is just one more proof that God created the creatures of the earth almost simultaneously.

metroidfood

I didn't write that. It was taken from somewhere else. I didn't write any of this. I didn't even confirm to any of you if I believe in it or not. I just like the responses I get from the walls of text I take from other websites. Maybe I believe in it, maybe I don't. The moral of the story is that these threads are pointless. No one is going to convince anyone of anything. It's a complete and utter waste of time. A monkey could evolve right in front of any of the people who don't believe in evolution here, and they would still deny it. Same with the Atheists. God could descend from the heavens himself, but yet, they still would deny his existence. You see what I'm getting at?

what point is there posting this its like throwin a nother battle into the athist vs. catholisism war i mean does it matter does it really matter if there is a god or not. look at it this way if ya die and go to heaven then whoopie:) you just die then fine(i just die)

but its death doesnt matter till it happens

tiopuit

OK I am going to kill the young Earth Creationis argument right now with physics. We can see light from super novas hundreds of thousands and even millions of light years away. The speed of light doesn't change as you cross the universe. It is constant. If the earth is only 6000 years old that means that these stars never existed and god just put light in place to make us think those stars existed many thousands or millions of years ago. Why would god do this? Just to **** with us? because that doesn't seem benevolent.

[QUOTE="KH-mixerX"]

I'm not trying to prove anything... This animal is just one more proof that God created the creatures of the earth almost simultaneously.

metroidfood

Why do I click on these threads? It is always the same wall of text that claims to prove/disprove the existence of God but doesn't make sense and sounds like too much thought was put into it. :?Superironic

I click on these therads in hope of some piece of really, confirmed news that science proved God existed.

Not that I don't believe, cause I do. I just want these silly arguments to end.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] The fact that someone thinks they will change a belief like that over the internet People then respond with insults (instead of politely saying why they think it is wrong) ...the lack of lulz on GS with everyone's attention directed here *insert Seinfeld leaving the thread gif here*Lonelynight

Me as well. I honestly love a good religious discussion thread, but unfortunately a majority devolve into a shouting match between atheists and theists that wont be budged and look down upon the other for believing differently.

Now a question, does anybody in here, religious or atheist alike, think that a God that is capable of creating this much existence and sustaining it for billions of years and now cares so much about how we believe in him or how he live our little insignificant lives here on this floating rock? I don't think it's so concerned with petty things that our minds make important, I think it's just the engine that's keeping things going and that it loves us within the framework of us being it's creation, but does not judge or intervene in the course the Laws of the Universe are taking existence in.

Man, this is hilarious, I post a few quotes by some random people and everyone leaps on it like crazy. I'm not trying to prove anything. Nor do any of you need to refute me. Here's some things that might get your feathers ruffled.

Science's Unexplainable Creatures

Have you ever wondered how anything could evolve by chance? I believe that if evolution were true, which it is not, then when creatures evolved, they would evolve to a state where they are completely independent. They would not depend on other creatures or the environment to live. According to Charles Darwin, "If it could be proved that any part of the structure of any one species had been formed for the exclusive good of another species, it would annihilate my theory, for such could not have been produced through natural selection."

Now, to prove this point I am going to go through some of the creatures living on the planet that scientists have been unable to explain.

Eolidoidea:

Before we go into what an eolidoidea is, first we must discuss what an anenome is. An anenome is a creature that lives in the ocean. For a form of protection from predators, it has spines that inject poison into the body of the predator and kills it. And so the anenome lives to face the next day. However, the eolidoidea have small pockets in their stomachs that store the poison and use it as a form of defense against its predators, and it eats the rest of the anenome. Thus far, science has been unable to explain this creature and how it could have evolved by chance. I have the simple solution to this: God spoke it into being!


Giraffes:

Amazingly enough, giraffes are also hard to explain. A normal giraffe has a long neck, but how does it keep the blood flowing out of its head, or when it bends down to drink, how does it keep the blood from rushing to its head? It is all in the neck. You see, there are blood vessels running up and down the neck that push the blood up to the head when the giraffe is standing up. But when the giraffe puts its neck down, the vessels close up so that the blood doesn't all go into the head. If a giraffe would have evolved by chance, isn't it obvious that the head would have exploded before the vessels had fully evolved? I certainly think so.

White-throated Warblers:

I am going to start this section with a story. There once was a man who had two white-throated warblers in a cage inside a closed up room. There was no window- the only light that came was from an electrical source or a candle. One winter, he noticed that the birds were moving towards the southern side of the cage. Now how on earth did they know that it was winter and that they were supposed to go south? This behaviour is very common among these birds in the wild. The warblers will lay their eggs in Germany, then leave and go to Egypt for the winter. As soon as the eggs hatch and the chicks are able to fly, they go join their parents. How do they know where to go? Scientists have looked at other migrating species and learned that it is not only warblers, but also pigeons, monarch butterflies and others that do this. In order to figure out how they do it, scientists decided to track a pigeon on its flight path. They noticed that the birds did not necessarily use the sun because the flight pattern didn't change when the day was overcast. To test whether or not it was the earth's magnetic field that they were using, the scientists tied an electronic device to the bird and let it loose. The bird did fine when the sun was out, but once clouds covered the sky, they didn't know where they were going. But yet how could they have learned how to use the magnetic field of earth to go south? Obviously it could not have happened by chance. Someone or something had to have told these animals that when the climate is this way, go that way or something. Is it really possible for them to have figured it out on their own?

Castorocauda lutrasimilis:

Scientists have recently found a fossil supposedly dating back millions of years to the Jurassic period. This creature is a mouse-type animal. It has (or had,depending on your viewpoint) the tail of a beaver, the teeth of a seal, the habits of a platypus, hair and sweat glands that modern mammals have, and was about ten times bigger than most mammals from that period were thought to have been. Scientists are now saying that this find proved that mammals were much farther advanced much earlier in the timeline that previously thought. It also supports the fact that mammals were here much earlier before the supposed extinction of the dinosaurs. This animal is just one more proof that God created the creatures of the earth almost simultaneously.

Jurassic Shrimp:

Scientists on the coast of Australia have just unearthed another 'living fossil.' The Jurassic Shrimp are a shrimp genus that was thought to have died out about 50 million years ago. The marine biologists were looking at the life in the Australian seas when they found one of these crustaceans. Scientists knew what it was because it was well known from the Jurassic and Cretaceous periods of time. However, these shrimp were supposed to be extinct. This is similar to another find in the Philippines in the 1970's. A team of fisherman were out getting their daily catch when they caught a ceolacanth. This fish was first rediscovered in 1938 off the coast of South Africa, and there was a second species of the ceolacanth found in Indonesia in 1997. The so-called living fossils did not go extinct during the time-period that was previously thought. Our world is a big one. Could there possibly be more finds like these out there?

KH-mixerX

we have animals that breathe oxygen that roam the oceans. honestly theres alot science cant even comprehend and i doubt it ever will because the answer is simple God made this planet. science can only prove evolution by dating stuff. but by sciences own logic the matter of earth had to of always existed so is therefore ancient in age.

but thats it science cant prove evolution past dating things and even then thats not conclusive to disprove God. because even taking just that i suppose one even if it is typically God made the earth 6000 years ago i could also say well no God made the earth 4 billion years ago and with that number science is even more confused than it originally was. the fact is science cannot prove evolution if it can its not there yet and honestly till we treck to the bottom of the ocean the planets core and find out what creatures live there and fully comprhend all life on this planet science is in no position to tell me we evolved.

never mind science is constantly learning and constantly progressing and in never ending state of gaining knowledge and changing rules and adding new theories etc. science would have to also be able to travel to other galaxies and study life there too and the fact going back to the moon seems to be difficult at this point in time im not getting my hopes up on inter galactic space travel. also evolution must somehow imply not only did the earth evolve to its current state but so the entire freakin milky way galaxy which is neccessary for earth to even support life. ca

use earth is useless on its own so somehow the sun evolved into the sun the moon started rotating around the earth and the other 9 planets or is it 8 i cant remeber started rotating around the sun as well. and the mysterious belt of commets seperating us and mars. theres also its basically inconceivable for us to get off this planets and travel past the moon. its like somehow everything just evolved perfectly by pure freakin chance is basically what evolution wants me to beleive and i cant do that. theres about 5443564356547657567567567 variables probably more that had to conviently not go wrong in this process. oh yes and we all exploded out of an apparent something that caused this bizzarre turn of events.

i mean here we are the universe is going on along just find and boom bam planets start appearing out of a bizzarre explosion. i mean evolutionists ask yourself can you really beleive we all exploded out of a bizzarre something and 544756756765765765543545 variables all went just right and we are here today because of that? i really cant. and again not just earth the entire universe had to do this too at the very bare minimum the entire solar system we live in had to do this. the rule of probablities and possiblities put this on the .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of happening in otherwords might as well be 0% chance.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] The fact that someone thinks they will change a belief like that over the internet People then respond with insults (instead of politely saying why they think it is wrong) ...the lack of lulz on GS with everyone's attention directed here *insert Seinfeld leaving the thread gif here*MystikFollower

Me as well. I honestly love a good religious discussion thread, but unfortunately a majority devolve into a shouting match between atheists and theists that wont be budged and look down upon the other for believing differently.

Now a question, does anybody in here, religious or atheist alike, think that a God that is capable of creating this much existence and sustaining it for billions of years and now cares so much about how we believe in him or how he live our little insignificant lives here on this floating rock? I don't think it's so concerned with petty things that our minds make important, I think it's just the engine that's keeping things going and that it loves us within the framework of us being it's creation, but does not judge or intervene in the course the Laws of the Universe are taking existence in.

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"] Debates here actually did help change my beliefs.kayoticdreamz

Me as well. I honestly love a good religious discussion thread, but unfortunately a majority devolve into a shouting match between atheists and theists that wont be budged and look down upon the other for believing differently.

Now a question, does anybody in here, religious or atheist alike, think that a God that is capable of creating this much existence and sustaining it for billions of years and now cares so much about how we believe in him or how he live our little insignificant lives here on this floating rock? I don't think it's so concerned with petty things that our minds make important, I think it's just the engine that's keeping things going and that it loves us within the framework of us being it's creation, but does not judge or intervene in the course the Laws of the Universe are taking existence in.

Yeah, God very well can intervene in the laws of physics, but I don't think he has (with the exception of Jesus maybe), and I don't think he will. It would easily explain why all this terrible **** continually happens to our civilization, and it explains why God doesn't put a stop to the horrific evils we commit upon ourselves and the planet. It's Free Will. God is letting the dice roll and seeing what happens basically, I think. He set the spin, and now is watching it wind down.

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

Me as well. I honestly love a good religious discussion thread, but unfortunately a majority devolve into a shouting match between atheists and theists that wont be budged and look down upon the other for believing differently.

Now a question, does anybody in here, religious or atheist alike, think that a God that is capable of creating this much existence and sustaining it for billions of years and now cares so much about how we believe in him or how he live our little insignificant lives here on this floating rock? I don't think it's so concerned with petty things that our minds make important, I think it's just the engine that's keeping things going and that it loves us within the framework of us being it's creation, but does not judge or intervene in the course the Laws of the Universe are taking existence in.

Yeah, God very well can intervene in the laws of physics, but I don't think he has (with the exception of Jesus maybe), and I don't think he will. It would easily explain why all this terrible **** continually happens to our civilization, and it explains why God doesn't put a stop to the horrific evils we commit upon ourselves and the planet. It's Free Will. God is letting the dice roll and seeing what happens basically, I think. He set the spin, and now is watching it wind down.