Abortion

I would expect most people here to be against it but if there are any who support I would like to hear your reasons why. I'm against it since abortion is termination of life. If you can't take care of your child then leave him/her on an orphanage, and afaik there are government agencies now who support pregnant women who are financially incapable.

If you are for it, you are a ****

If you are against it, you are a ****

Life's tough decisions :roll:

Because fetusesare delicious.

im not against it.... if people aint ready then.. why should the kid and the parents suffer.campzor

I don't believe in the idea of a soul. Thus, I don't believe life begins at conception.

A fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat until 4-5 weeks, so its not alive.

My opinion of course, and its a topic that tends to people be moronically harsh and sound like biased douches on both sides.

Vehemently against it.

They say a fetus younger than 24 weeks can't feel pain. Which of course is why an 18-week-old baby is fighting and hitting to get away from the probe. Yeah, sounds pretty 'painless' to me.

Makes me sick. If you don't want the damn baby, ladies, don't go whoring yourself out to your 'boyfriend' who will likely leave you as soon as someone else comes along. There are such things as condoms and the pill. I know, shocking.

[QUOTE="campzor"]im not against it.... if people aint ready then.. why should the kid and the parents suffer.heatsinkhole

The mother's wishes are more salient than the foetus to me. That's probably my honest, gut feeling about the issue. And tbh, I recognise a foetus as "life", but ****, there's nothing special about that.

I don't believe in the idea of a soul. Thus, I don't believe life begins at conception.

A fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat until 4-5 weeks, so its not alive.

My opinion of course, and its a topic that tends to people be moronically harsh and sound like biased douches on both sides.

xLFTMx

[QUOTE="heatsinkhole"][QUOTE="campzor"]im not against it.... if people aint ready then.. why should the kid and the parents suffer.campzor

I don't believe in the idea of a soul. Thus, I don't believe life begins at conception.

A fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat until 4-5 weeks, so its not alive.

My opinion of course, and its a topic that tends to people be moronically harsh and sound like biased douches on both sides.

xLFTMx

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="heatsinkhole"] IMO they shouldn't have sex either... heatsinkhole

[QUOTE="xLFTMx"]

I don't believe in the idea of a soul. Thus, I don't believe life begins at conception.

A fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat until 4-5 weeks, so its not alive.

My opinion of course, and its a topic that tends to people be moronically harsh and sound like biased douches on both sides.

heatsinkhole

If I smoke a joint the tar will affect my lungs, but that doesn't mean my lungs are alive. Thats just not a good argument, not insulting you, its just not a solid one.

I completely support the right to an abortion and feel it's really nobody's business other than the immediate people involved.

[QUOTE="xLFTMx"]

I don't believe in the idea of a soul. Thus, I don't believe life begins at conception.

A fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat until 4-5 weeks, so its not alive.

My opinion of course, and its a topic that tends to people be moronically harsh and sound like biased douches on both sides.

heatsinkhole

Vehemently against it.

They say a fetus younger than 24 weeks can't feel pain. Which of course is why an 18-week-old baby is fighting and hitting to get away from the probe. Yeah, sounds pretty 'painless' to me.

Makes me sick. If you don't want the damn baby, ladies, don't go whoring yourself out to your 'boyfriend' who will likely leave you as soon as someone else comes along. There are such things as condoms and the pill. I know, shocking.

Fusionmix

im not for it, but it's up to the mother ultimately and her conscious

The only reason I would go for abortion would be if there was something wrong with the child know beforehand. But other than that. I can't support it. It's notwise to give people an excuse to be grossly irresponsible. When a person**** uptheir mistake istheir responsibility so if someone takes that responsibility away from those people,they will just **** up again.

I'm against abortion. There are some extreme cases where I could understand someone going through with an abortion, but for the rest who have it I don't agree one bit. Oops the condom ripped...too bad, oops my birth control pill didn't do it's job...too bad. If you lay down and do the deed then you should take responsibility for your actions. Now if it's rape either by a stranger / family member / friend then I can understand. Maybe the girl is a teen who was just foolish enough to have unprotected sex. Well then they could give the baby up for adoption or drop the baby off at an orphanage. People don't like to take responsibility for their actions, and for those people abortion is the easy way out.

We terminate life all the time, what makes a fetus special?

[QUOTE="heatsinkhole"][QUOTE="xLFTMx"]

I don't believe in the idea of a soul. Thus, I don't believe life begins at conception.

A fetus doesn't even have a heartbeat until 4-5 weeks, so its not alive.

My opinion of course, and its a topic that tends to people be moronically harsh and sound like biased douches on both sides.

jshaas

Adoption sounds like a great idea until you realize that orphanages are already overfull and strained for resources because of all the kids that people never seem to want to adopt.

IMO, having a baby is a termination of life too, if you know what I mean.Engrish_Major

Against it personally, but it isn't my business as to what people do with their unborn children. If they want to kill them then they are the ones who have to live with that decision. I'd hope they give it as much thought as necessary, and hope that they don't go the overly selfish route... but ultimately, it is their decision, and I don't need to involve myself in their business.

With abortion in certain cases and with capital punishment. Sadly there are cases in which we resort to killing in order to survive. Though the person who's to be aborted was not proven guilty by any court nor it chose to be born in most cases. I had an aunt who died because her husband wanted a son when many doctors recommended that she gets an abortion.

the question if your for it or against it dosent matter at all.

The real question should be; Do you think abortion should be legal everywhere and stay that way?

And the answer should always be YES, simply because we have to let those woman who got raped or made a bad decision have a choice.

I'm against abortion as a form of birth control but outside of that, it's none of my business.

I hear and read a lot of stories about abortion clinic workers becoming pro-lifers after witnessing an abortion. But I have yet to hear a pro-lifer becoming a pro-choicer after witnessing an abortion.

If a woman wants to have one no one should stop her. If she doesn't she doesn't no one should tell someone what to do with there lives anyway.

Adoption sounds like a great idea until you realize that orphanages are already overfull and strained for resources because of all the kids that people never seem to want to adopt.

worlock77

That is a strong argument for abortion, but morally it doesn't sway my belief that it's wrong. Also, I feel that the process of adoption is too strict and difficult. There are families out there who want to adopt for whatever reason, but the process can be to overwhelming and costly. It should be easier to adopt.

Children annoys the s*** out of me, so I'm all for abortion. And thinking to the future, my liver will probably be ruined in another 20 years from all my drinking. Hopefully by then, nerds will be able to grow me a new one from stem cells. Aborted babies get Palantas a new liver. Win-win.

I hear and read a lot of stories about abortion clinic workers becoming pro-lifers after witnessing an abortion. But I have yet to hear a pro-lifer becoming a pro-choicer after witnessing an abortion.

greeneye59

I don't really get if this is an argument.

Because if so, meh.

[QUOTE="Fusionmix"]

Vehemently against it.

They say a fetus younger than 24 weeks can't feel pain. Which of course is why an 18-week-old baby is fighting and hitting to get away from the probe. Yeah, sounds pretty 'painless' to me.

Makes me sick. If you don't want the damn baby, ladies, don't go whoring yourself out to your 'boyfriend' who will likely leave you as soon as someone else comes along. There are such things as condoms and the pill. I know, shocking.

Sushiglutton

More a case of, by that point it's becoming a person; already learning about input from its environment.

At what point does a fetus stop being a fetus and become a baby?

More a case of, by that point it's becoming a person; already learning about input from its environment.

At what point does a fetus stop being a fetus and become a baby?

I am both for it and against it...

I am for it in these circumstances:

1 - You face injury or death from carrying out the pregnancy... (Such as people with bleeding disorders or other complications)...

2 - You used contraception or protection and were impregnated anyways...

3 - You are mentally, physically, financially, etc unprepared to give birth to/raise/give up for adoption a child...

4 - The pregnancy in question is the result of rape...

I am against it in these circumstances:

1 - You have already had multiple abortions because you are an ignorant piece of trash that is too incompetent to use contraception...

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Though on most levels - I am for it a majority of the time - I would rather a child not exist than be raised in the broken orphanage and foster system of our country... Sure some kids get a good foster family or are adopted by loving parents... But not often... The 2007 numbers from UNICEF said there are over 2,800,000 orphaned children aged 0-17 in the United States...

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Adoption sounds like a great idea until you realize that orphanages are already overfull and strained for resources because of all the kids that people never seem to want to adopt.

zmbi_gmr

That is a strong argument for abortion, but morally it doesn't sway my belief that it's wrong. Also, I feel that the process of adoption is too strict and difficult. There are families out there who want to adopt for whatever reason, but the process can be to overwhelming and costly. It should be easier to adopt.

Then what keeps a pedo, mentally unstable, financially unfit, etc, etc, etc person from adopting a child...? It is expensive and time consuming because they are making sure you are fit to raise a child...

It may be a broken system that is crowded beyond belief, but they still care for the welfare of the children...