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#51 Blue-Sky
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Its funny ,but it also isn't something that is that just Fox News does. Huffingtonpost and UK Dailymail in particular come to mind when I think of these kinds of headlines.

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By all means show some examples.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

So what, it's just like how CNN and MSNBC put a liberal spin on all their stuff. (I don't even want to hear that they don't.)

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They don't.

They're not an unbiased source of news. I've yet to find any site that does that.

L'Osservatore Romano seems to be fairly unbiased about U.S. News

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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] They certainly aren't unbiased, but they aren't biased like how Fox News is biased. -Sun_Tzu-
You mean like Dan Rather making up that story? That's pretty bad when you anchorman flat out lies. Fox is comically biased. I dont think anyone can defend how bad they are, but many other stations certainly have their problems.

What Dan Rather did isn't so much bias as it is just flat-out s***ty reporting. What I mean is that at Fox News, the conservative bias is very well coordinated and systemic, compared to - say - MSNBC, who just stock-up their prime-time programming with liberal opinion shows.

But I must say MSNBC's opinion shows are quite boring and a lot of their commentators talk about stuff that are quite boring and seem rather irrelevant and seem more like the pet peeves of the host than something many people would care about.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="sonicare"] They're not an unbiased source of news. I've yet to find any site that does that.sonicare
They certainly aren't unbiased, but they aren't biased like how Fox News is biased.

You mean like Dan Rather making up that story? That's pretty bad when you anchorman flat out lies. Fox is comically biased. I dont think anyone can defend how bad they are, but many other stations certainly have their problems.

Not only stations but also newspapers as well.

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actual headline: beware nigerian prince scam

fox headline: obama sends out mass emails

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That's pretty funny! :lol:
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#56 haziqonfire
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Haha .. wow.

Well, at least Fox is entertaining for a few laughs :P.

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#57 kayoticdreamz
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fair and unbiased journalism at its finest. >.>Allicrombie
because every other news station doesnt at all possibly have a liberal bias....
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because every other news station doesnt at all possibly have a liberal bias....kayoticdreamz

I don't think those other news agencies try to push as strong of an agenda as Fox does though.

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#59 jaqulle999
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You have to hand it to Fox though, those type of headlines certainly are more attention-grabbing. :lol:

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Yeah i might pay more attention to them now for a good laugh :p
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So, I just Googled two random Fox headlines in that list. They came from Fox Nation, which isn't Fox News per-se, it is a website created to stir up debate amongst its user base (operated by Fox News). Meaning all their headlines are inflammatory to draw attention to it so users will comment and debate. I watch Fox News, I recognize the slant and some of their stupid stories, but the two headlines I did search did not come directly from Fox News and come from a site meant to cause debate amongst its readers.
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Man, I thought Fox was bad until I read the english version of Pravda. The anti-US bias is unbelievable.
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"Obama has a big problem with white women"

"Malaysian Muslims Cattle-brand Prostitutes"

:lol:

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#63 tenaka2
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So, I just Googled two random Fox headlines in that list. They came from Fox Nation, which isn't Fox News per-se, it is a website created to stir up debate amongst its user base (operated by Fox News). Meaning all their headlines are inflammatory to draw attention to it so users will comment and debate. I watch Fox News, I recognize the slant and some of their stupid stories, but the two headlines I did search did not come directly from Fox News and come from a site meant to cause debate amongst its readers.cametall

I agree, fox news is a totally impartial source, this thread is false.

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Never liked Fox, never have never will!
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#65 cametall
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"Obama has a big problem with white women"

"Malaysian Muslims Cattle-brand Prostitutes"

:lol:

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Those are the two headlines I searched that lead to Fox Nation.
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#66 EsYuGee
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So, I just Googled two random Fox headlines in that list. They came from Fox Nation, which isn't Fox News per-se, it is a website created to stir up debate amongst its user base (operated by Fox News). Meaning all their headlines are inflammatory to draw attention to it so users will comment and debate. I watch Fox News, I recognize the slant and some of their stupid stories, but the two headlines I did search did not come directly from Fox News and come from a site meant to cause debate amongst its readers.cametall

This isn't an attack against you. Just trying to be clear, but the address for Fox Nation is nation.foxnews.com. So it's directy connected to fox news and they actively control the content. It's not a seperate website for converstion. It's part of foxnews.com. It's just a way for them to sort of hide their more blatant slant in a back room somewhere.

Also I find it pretty funny that they started the site in March 2009. 2 months after Obama came into office.

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Well Fox news sucks..how come they still alive man?
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hate all you want on fox news OT because majority here do. doesnt matter country aint getting any better and obama has not done a good enough job of improving anything. we have bigger things to worry about than fox news (supports a party) versus other news that support other parties.
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I live in Denmark, but I've watched Fox News from time to time and it's the most hilarious fearmongering propaganda channel I've ever seen. And no, CBS, CNN and MSNBC aren't that good either. Where do you Americans get real news from? I'm not talking about outside news sources like BBC or Al Jazeera English, but news organisations inside the U.S. That's a serious question by the way, because if there are any, I'd love to check them out.
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#70 EsYuGee
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I live in Denmark, but I've watched Fox News from time to time and it's the most hilarious fearmongering propaganda channel I've ever seen. And no, CBS, CNN and MSNBC aren't that good either. Where do you Americans get real news from? I'm not talking about outside news sources like BBC or Al Jazeera English, but news organisations inside the U.S. That's a serious question by the way, because if there are any, I'd love to check them out.m25105
The Daily Show. Nah, I'm just kidding. But seriously though.....Yeah, The Daily Show. Mainly because so many people are disappointed by the traditional media. I really wish we could get Al Jazeera English on regular cable here though.
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those remind me of the Daily Show a couple nights ago where Jon Stewart went over several of Fox New's biggest lies whic are rated by the completely and seriously unbiased source politifacts.com. They had the 2009 and 2010 lies of the year lol...if only people knew that fox news is entertainment television and not news.

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"Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? … Fox viewers, consistently, every poll." debunks Jon Stewart's claims and if anything, show that his viewers are more misinformed than Fox News viewers.

• April 2008 Media Survey. Compared to the 2007 survey, the 2008 survey looked at a wider variety of media outlets but used a narrower selection of questions designed to test the respondent's current-affairs knowledge. The pollsters asked three questions: "Do you happen to know which political party has a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives?" "Can you tell me the name of the current U.S. Secretary of State?" And "who is the current prime minister of Great Britain?" Anyone who went three-for-three earned the high knowledge designation.

Here, the range of results was much wider. Once again, Fox News was just about at the national average -- 19 percent of Fox viewers scored in the high knowledge category, compared to 18 percent of all respondents -- but this time a handful of news outlets scored lower than Fox did. With scores ranging from 17 percent all the way down to 9 percent, they were CNBC, local television news, network news, morning news shows, television newsmagazines, personality magazines, religious radio, the Weather Channel, CBS News, Access Hollywood and similar shows, and in last place, the National Enquirer.

And once again, particular Fox shows scored well above the average. Hannity & Colmes was one of only four choices to exceed 40 percent -- the others were the New Yorker/the Atlantic, NPR and MSNBC's Hardball -- while The O'Reilly Factor scored 28 percent, or 10 points above the national average. (Hannity & Colmes even exceeded Stewart's Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.)

In all, this poll undercuts Stewart's position even more than the 2007 poll did.Politifacts

Oh the irony.

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"Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? … Fox viewers, consistently, every poll." debunks Jon Stewart's claims and if anything, show that his viewers are more misinformed than Fox News viewers.

WhiteKnight77
People who watch Fox are probably already in-tune with what is happening in government. However, they are ill informed on a bunch of stupid non-issues like Obama's citizenship status or Obama "failing" the black community. They may know more about what is going on, but their beliefs - in my opinion - are horribly skewed.
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[QUOTE="demoman314"]

those remind me of the Daily Show a couple nights ago where Jon Stewart went over several of Fox New's biggest lies whic are rated by the completely and seriously unbiased source politifacts.com. They had the 2009 and 2010 lies of the year lol...if only people knew that fox news is entertainment television and not news.

WhiteKnight77

"Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? … Fox viewers, consistently, every poll." debunks Jon Stewart's claims and if anything, show that his viewers are more misinformed than Fox News viewers.

• April 2008 Media Survey. Compared to the 2007 survey, the 2008 survey looked at a wider variety of media outlets but used a narrower selection of questions designed to test the respondent's current-affairs knowledge. The pollsters asked three questions: "Do you happen to know which political party has a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives?" "Can you tell me the name of the current U.S. Secretary of State?" And "who is the current prime minister of Great Britain?" Anyone who went three-for-three earned the high knowledge designation.

Here, the range of results was much wider. Once again, Fox News was just about at the national average -- 19 percent of Fox viewers scored in the high knowledge category, compared to 18 percent of all respondents -- but this time a handful of news outlets scored lower than Fox did. With scores ranging from 17 percent all the way down to 9 percent, they were CNBC, local television news, network news, morning news shows, television newsmagazines, personality magazines, religious radio, the Weather Channel, CBS News, Access Hollywood and similar shows, and in last place, the National Enquirer.

And once again, particular Fox shows scored well above the average. Hannity & Colmes was one of only four choices to exceed 40 percent -- the others were the New Yorker/the Atlantic, NPR and MSNBC's Hardball -- while The O'Reilly Factor scored 28 percent, or 10 points above the national average. (Hannity & Colmes even exceeded Stewart's Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.)

In all, this poll undercuts Stewart's position even more than the 2007 poll did.Politifacts

Oh the irony.

I guess the interviewer didn't bother to correct Stewart because he was already incredibly use to misinformation being on Fox News.
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="demoman314"]

those remind me of the Daily Show a couple nights ago where Jon Stewart went over several of Fox New's biggest lies whic are rated by the completely and seriously unbiased source politifacts.com. They had the 2009 and 2010 lies of the year lol...if only people knew that fox news is entertainment television and not news.

Serraph105

"Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? … Fox viewers, consistently, every poll." debunks Jon Stewart's claims and if anything, show that his viewers are more misinformed than Fox News viewers.

• April 2008 Media Survey. Compared to the 2007 survey, the 2008 survey looked at a wider variety of media outlets but used a narrower selection of questions designed to test the respondent's current-affairs knowledge. The pollsters asked three questions: "Do you happen to know which political party has a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives?" "Can you tell me the name of the current U.S. Secretary of State?" And "who is the current prime minister of Great Britain?" Anyone who went three-for-three earned the high knowledge designation.

Here, the range of results was much wider. Once again, Fox News was just about at the national average -- 19 percent of Fox viewers scored in the high knowledge category, compared to 18 percent of all respondents -- but this time a handful of news outlets scored lower than Fox did. With scores ranging from 17 percent all the way down to 9 percent, they were CNBC, local television news, network news, morning news shows, television newsmagazines, personality magazines, religious radio, the Weather Channel, CBS News, Access Hollywood and similar shows, and in last place, the National Enquirer.

And once again, particular Fox shows scored well above the average. Hannity & Colmes was one of only four choices to exceed 40 percent -- the others were the New Yorker/the Atlantic, NPR and MSNBC's Hardball -- while The O'Reilly Factor scored 28 percent, or 10 points above the national average. (Hannity & Colmes even exceeded Stewart's Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.)

In all, this poll undercuts Stewart's position even more than the 2007 poll did.Politifacts

Oh the irony.

I guess the interviewer didn't bother to correct Stewart because he was already incredibly use to misinformation being on Fox News.

LOL, from the looks of things, it's Jon Stewart who is misinformed and is no worse than those who continually interrupt their interviewer in order to avoid actually responding coherently to said interviewer.

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[QUOTE="demoman314"]

those remind me of the Daily Show a couple nights ago where Jon Stewart went over several of Fox New's biggest lies whic are rated by the completely and seriously unbiased source politifacts.com. They had the 2009 and 2010 lies of the year lol...if only people knew that fox news is entertainment television and not news.

WhiteKnight77

"Who are the most consistently misinformed media viewers? … Fox viewers, consistently, every poll." debunks Jon Stewart's claims and if anything, show that his viewers are more misinformed than Fox News viewers.

• April 2008 Media Survey. Compared to the 2007 survey, the 2008 survey looked at a wider variety of media outlets but used a narrower selection of questions designed to test the respondent's current-affairs knowledge. The pollsters asked three questions: "Do you happen to know which political party has a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives?" "Can you tell me the name of the current U.S. Secretary of State?" And "who is the current prime minister of Great Britain?" Anyone who went three-for-three earned the high knowledge designation.

Here, the range of results was much wider. Once again, Fox News was just about at the national average -- 19 percent of Fox viewers scored in the high knowledge category, compared to 18 percent of all respondents -- but this time a handful of news outlets scored lower than Fox did. With scores ranging from 17 percent all the way down to 9 percent, they were CNBC, local television news, network news, morning news shows, television newsmagazines, personality magazines, religious radio, the Weather Channel, CBS News, Access Hollywood and similar shows, and in last place, the National Enquirer.

And once again, particular Fox shows scored well above the average. Hannity & Colmes was one of only four choices to exceed 40 percent -- the others were the New Yorker/the Atlantic, NPR and MSNBC's Hardball -- while The O'Reilly Factor scored 28 percent, or 10 points above the national average. (Hannity & Colmes even exceeded Stewart's Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.)

In all, this poll undercuts Stewart's position even more than the 2007 poll did.Politifacts

Oh the irony.

That wasn't really Stewart's point though. Stewart wasn't trying to say that Fox News viewers don't know things like who certain members of the government are, but that they tend to be mis-informed about the actual issues facing the country (and the world in general).
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fox news is pure garbage

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So you're just realizing that Fox News is biased?
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So you're just realizing that Fox News is biased?XiaolinPrincess
Nope, but the people who don't know it is biased need to be exposed to things like this.
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[QUOTE="XiaolinPrincess"]So you're just realizing that Fox News is biased?ZumaJones07
Nope, but the people who don't know it is biased need to be exposed to things like this.

Eh...all news outlets have a bias. Some just hide it a little better.
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="XiaolinPrincess"]So you're just realizing that Fox News is biased?LJS9502_basic
Nope, but the people who don't know it is biased need to be exposed to things like this.

Eh...all news outlets have a bias. Some just hide it a little better.

Exactly.

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I live in Denmark, but I've watched Fox News from time to time and it's the most hilarious fearmongering propaganda channel I've ever seen. And no, CBS, CNN and MSNBC aren't that good either. Where do you Americans get real news from? I'm not talking about outside news sources like BBC or Al Jazeera English, but news organisations inside the U.S. That's a serious question by the way, because if there are any, I'd love to check them out.m25105
Honestly, I don't follow any televised news channel, but I read the online articles on CNN and Reuters daily, and like to check a lot of stories up with Politifact. I'm also a fan of picking articles from random sources on a regular basis as well.

I've found that if you want to become educated in any topic, really, the best option is to read.

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Man, I thought Fox was bad until I read the english version of Pravda. The anti-US bias is unbelievable.majoras_wrath
Well I'm not surprised that Pravda is quite biased. It used to be the official paper of the Soviet Communist Central Committee. Ironically it's name means Truth.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="XiaolinPrincess"]So you're just realizing that Fox News is biased?LJS9502_basic
Nope, but the people who don't know it is biased need to be exposed to things like this.

Eh...all news outlets have a bias. Some just hide it a little better.

Exactly. At least Fox news doesn't hide their bias, so you can judge the topic accordingly.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ZumaJones07"] Nope, but the people who don't know it is biased need to be exposed to things like this.ROFLCOPTER603

Eh...all news outlets have a bias. Some just hide it a little better.

Exactly. At least Fox news doesn't hide their bias, so you can judge the topic accordingly.

Are we really to the point where we hold up blatantly slanted and misleading news articles as good things because their bias is easy to spot?
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Eh...all news outlets have a bias. Some just hide it a little better.mattbbpl

Exactly. At least Fox news doesn't hide their bias, so you can judge the topic accordingly.

Are we really to the point where we hold up blatantly slanted and misleading news articles as good things because their bias is easy to spot?

I didn't say it was good or reliable. I'm just saying that it's better to know about the authors' bias than to have no idea what the intentions of the article are.

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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Eh...all news outlets have a bias. Some just hide it a little better.mattbbpl

Exactly. At least Fox news doesn't hide their bias, so you can judge the topic accordingly.

Are we really to the point where we hold up blatantly slanted and misleading news articles as good things because their bias is easy to spot?

Ya... not that great logic is it.

I'm sure all news outlets photoshop people they don't like aswell. (just guess)

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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Exactly. At least Fox news doesn't hide their bias, so you can judge the topic accordingly.

Are we really to the point where we hold up blatantly slanted and misleading news articles as good things because their bias is easy to spot?

I didn't say it was good or reliable. I'm just saying that it's better to know about the authors' bias than to have no idea what the intentions of the article are.

Being able to spot bias is indeed important as it allows the reader to separate the facts from the commentary, but being able to do so is really only valuable with a relatively reputable source with some integrity that reports the true facts of the story. When the bias is so strong that the article simply can't be trusted, the knowledge of that bias is really only useful in that it can be used to categorize the source as garbage that shouldn't be trusted.
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#88 zombehhhhh
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True, there are some headlines on Fox News website that are very right-wing statements, but for the most part, Fox does just as well as any other news site. The TV channel is a bit different, but the thing that really gets to me about Fox News is the comments that people leave on each story. Even if Obama does do something good, every single person that comments on the Fox News message boards just rails on Obama for something, even if it has nothing to do with the policy or agenda the story is actually talking about.

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I lol'd at some of them :lol:
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Man, I thought Fox was bad until I read the english version of Pravda. The anti-US bias is unbelievable.whipassmt

Well I'm not surprised that Pravda is quite biased. It used to be the official paper of the Soviet Communist Central Committee. Ironically it's name means Truth.

I know, it's just funny how much a relic of the past it is. They had an article about how Russians are better because they don't smile all the time like Americans.
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#91 WhiteKnight77
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True, there are some headlines on Fox News website that are very right-wing statements, but for the most part, Fox does just as well as any other news site. The TV channel is a bit different, but the thing that really gets to me about Fox News is the comments that people leave on each story. Even if Obama does do something good, every single person that comments on the Fox News message boards just rails on Obama for something, even if it has nothing to do with the policy or agenda the story is actually talking about.

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No worse than comments made towards conservative Presidents on websites like MSNBC right? Now that the shoe is on the other foot, doesn't feel so good does it?

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#92 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Exactly. At least Fox news doesn't hide their bias, so you can judge the topic accordingly.

Meat_Wad_Fan

Are we really to the point where we hold up blatantly slanted and misleading news articles as good things because their bias is easy to spot?

Ya... not that great logic is it.

I'm sure all news outlets photoshop people they don't like aswell. (just guess)

So you are okay with the hidden bias that slants your thinking rather than overt bias when you know it's not true? Which is more damaging do you think?
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#93 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Are we really to the point where we hold up blatantly slanted and misleading news articles as good things because their bias is easy to spot?LJS9502_basic

Ya... not that great logic is it.

I'm sure all news outlets photoshop people they don't like aswell. (just guess)

So you are okay with the hidden bias that slants your thinking rather than overt bias when you know it's not true? Which is more damaging do you think?

If the question is what news network is more damaging, Fox News or news network X, then the answer is Fox News, by far.
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#94 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

Ya... not that great logic is it.

I'm sure all news outlets photoshop people they don't like aswell. (just guess)

-Sun_Tzu-

So you are okay with the hidden bias that slants your thinking rather than overt bias when you know it's not true? Which is more damaging do you think?

If the question is what news network is more damaging, Fox News or news network X, then the answer is Fox News, by far.

That wasn't the question. But I'd have to ask for some support for your thesis. As far as I can tell....extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side one is on.

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#95 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So you are okay with the hidden bias that slants your thinking rather than overt bias when you know it's not true? Which is more damaging do you think?LJS9502_basic

If the question is what news network is more damaging, Fox News or news network X, then the answer is Fox News, by far.

That wasn't the question. But I'd have to ask for some support for your thesis. As far as I can tell....extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side one is on.

Well I disagree that all extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side...that is a generalization.

But to answer your question, there is a pretty obvious asymmetry at play when people compare Fox News to the rest of the news media, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that Fox News is the only conservative news network. Fox News is the only news network that delibrately, on a day-to-day basis, pushes a certain viewpoint. Any bias on any other news network is no where near systematic nor as organized. Which makes Fox News a propaganda machine IMO.

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Fox News provding great comedy since the demise of Pravada.

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#97 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] If the question is what news network is more damaging, Fox News or news network X, then the answer is Fox News, by far. -Sun_Tzu-

That wasn't the question. But I'd have to ask for some support for your thesis. As far as I can tell....extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side one is on.

Well I disagree that all extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side...that is a generalization.

But to answer your question, there is a pretty obvious asymmetry at play when people compare Fox News to the rest of the news media, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that Fox News is the only conservative news network. Fox News is the only news network that delibrately, on a day-to-day basis, pushes a certain viewpoint. Any bias on any other news network is no where near systematic nor as organized. Which makes Fox News a propaganda machine IMO.

No it's not a generalization. They are extreme for a reason. As in not what the general society wants.....and in the US the government is supposed to be by the people, for the people. Not an extreme subset of society. All news agencies push their agenda daily. There is bias everywhere. Having a network so obvious about it though means the unsuspecting have more of a clue what their agenda is. While not being obvious means people....well believe most everything printed. For instance....you downplay bias in other news agencies because you don't see how blatant it is. I consider that more insidious TBH....and more likely to influence opinion.
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#98 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That wasn't the question. But I'd have to ask for some support for your thesis. As far as I can tell....extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side one is on.

LJS9502_basic

Well I disagree that all extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side...that is a generalization.

But to answer your question, there is a pretty obvious asymmetry at play when people compare Fox News to the rest of the news media, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that Fox News is the only conservative news network. Fox News is the only news network that delibrately, on a day-to-day basis, pushes a certain viewpoint. Any bias on any other news network is no where near systematic nor as organized. Which makes Fox News a propaganda machine IMO.

No it's not a generalization. They are extreme for a reason. As in not what the general society wants.....and in the US the government is supposed to be by the people, for the people. Not an extreme subset of society. All news agencies push their agenda daily. There is bias everywhere. Having a network so obvious about it though means the unsuspecting have more of a clue what their agenda is. While not being obvious means people....well believe most everything printed. For instance....you downplay bias in other news agencies because you don't see how blatant it is. I consider that more insidious TBH....and more likely to influence opinion.

It is a generalization, and a demonstrably false one at that. American independence was once an extreme political position, as was abolitionism, universal suffrage, desegregation, democracy, and the list goes on and on. Are those positions inherently dangerous?

And no, not all news agencies push their ideological agenda's daily, because not all news agencies have ideological agenda's to push.

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#99 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well I disagree that all extreme political opinions are equally dangerous no matter which side...that is a generalization.

But to answer your question, there is a pretty obvious asymmetry at play when people compare Fox News to the rest of the news media, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that Fox News is the only conservative news network. Fox News is the only news network that delibrately, on a day-to-day basis, pushes a certain viewpoint. Any bias on any other news network is no where near systematic nor as organized. Which makes Fox News a propaganda machine IMO.

-Sun_Tzu-

No it's not a generalization. They are extreme for a reason. As in not what the general society wants.....and in the US the government is supposed to be by the people, for the people. Not an extreme subset of society. All news agencies push their agenda daily. There is bias everywhere. Having a network so obvious about it though means the unsuspecting have more of a clue what their agenda is. While not being obvious means people....well believe most everything printed. For instance....you downplay bias in other news agencies because you don't see how blatant it is. I consider that more insidious TBH....and more likely to influence opinion.

It is a generalization, and a demonstrably false one at that. American independence was once an extreme political position, as was abolitionism, universal suffrage, desegregation, democracy, and the list goes on and on. Are those positions inherently dangerous?

And no, not all news agencies push their ideological agenda's daily, because not all news agencies have ideological agenda's to push.

No neither example was extreme. Unless you were the British or a slave owner. All news agencies have a bias. But I guess going your post they hide it rather well.
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#100 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's not a generalization. They are extreme for a reason. As in not what the general society wants.....and in the US the government is supposed to be by the people, for the people. Not an extreme subset of society. All news agencies push their agenda daily. There is bias everywhere. Having a network so obvious about it though means the unsuspecting have more of a clue what their agenda is. While not being obvious means people....well believe most everything printed. For instance....you downplay bias in other news agencies because you don't see how blatant it is. I consider that more insidious TBH....and more likely to influence opinion.LJS9502_basic

It is a generalization, and a demonstrably false one at that. American independence was once an extreme political position, as was abolitionism, universal suffrage, desegregation, democracy, and the list goes on and on. Are those positions inherently dangerous?

And no, not all news agencies push their ideological agenda's daily, because not all news agencies have ideological agenda's to push.

No neither example was extreme. Unless you were the British or a slave owner. All news agencies have a bias. But I guess going your post they hide it rather well.

All of those positions were considered radical and extreme at some point in time (and not just by the British or slave owners). If you're going to ignore what are basic historical facts then there is no point in continuing this conversation.