African Americans for Obama? Really?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="djshowstopper87"]

The reason us black people get free passes in some instances like BET and supporting President Obama for example is because we (as a race) have had to deal with a lot of crap and injustice ( a lot of it comes from racist whites through out history) slavery, jim crow laws etc. It still waay easier to be white in america than it is to be black or any other race. White Privilage exist whether whites will admit it or not. And LOL at people complaining about BET, you guys do have WET its pretty much any other station on TV besides BET.

thebest31406

I'm a Jew, we were oppressed and hated more than you ever were.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Well romney is basically a nazi, and the last time a bunch of white people rallied around a nazi leader, it didn't turn out well...

gamerguru100

lol at you responding seriously to TopTierTroll.

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I'm a Jew, we were oppressed and hated more than you ever were.

kingkong0124

Only after you stop being dumb.

Don't rank human suffering.MrPraline

Only after you stop being dumb.

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Glitchspot is at it again.

hi kingkong i missed youMrPraline

I'm not. Blacks did not get systematically killed by the hundreds.. they just went through a couple hundred years of slavery. Also, your poster child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646JG5MlTaokingkong0124

Oh boy. You have deep issues if you have such a flippant attitude about slavery.

As for your link, I saw it the first time you posted it. No need to post it again.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]

Only after you stop being dumb.

GreySeal9

Oh boy. You have deep issues if you have such a flippant attitude about slavery.

As for your link, I saw it the first time you posted it. No need to post it again.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I'm not. Blacks did not get systematically killed by the hundreds.. they just went through a couple hundred years of slavery. Also, your poster child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646JG5MlTaokingkong0124

Oh boy. You have deep issues if you have such a flippant attitude about slavery.

As for your link, I saw it the first time you posted it. No need to post it again.

A couple hundred years of slavery, not to mention the discrimination that went on after that, is terrible enough without comparing it to anything else. You should think about what those people went through and then maybe you won't be so flippant about the issue.

why the f*ck did i say hi grayfox i meant seal of course i'm drinking don't mind me and mixing all threads togetherMrPraline

Grayfox on MGS is a cool character, so I didn't mind being called that. :P

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I'm not. Blacks did not get systematically killed by the hundreds.. they just went through a couple hundred years of slavery. Also, your poster child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646JG5MlTaokingkong0124

Oh boy. You have deep issues if you have such a flippant attitude about slavery.

As for your link, I saw it the first time you posted it. No need to post it again.

The Arab slave trade did not focus on a specific ethnic or racial group. And what f*cking relevance do the Romans have here?

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Oh boy. You have deep issues if you have such a flippant attitude about slavery.

As for your link, I saw it the first time you posted it. No need to post it again.

GreySeal9

A couple hundred years of slavery, not to mention the discrimination that went on after that, is terrible enough without comparing it to anything else. You should think about what those people went through and then maybe you won't be so flippant about the issue.

a couple million of your people dying, not to mention the discrimination that happened long before the Africans arrived in the Americas (and that still happens today, btw), is even more terrible. Slavery was bad, I agree, and I'm sorry, but don't make it an excuse for your failures. It's better to man up and accept personal responsibility for your actions, rather than blame it on what white people did 150+ years ago.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I'm examining the issue on a grand scale. A couple hundreds years of slavery is nothing compared to the Arab slave trade or the what the ancient Romans did.

kingkong0124

A couple hundred years of slavery, not to mention the discrimination that went on after that, is terrible enough without comparing it to anything else. You should think about what those people went through and then maybe you won't be so flippant about the issue.

a couple million of your people dying, not to mention the discrimination that happened long before the Africans arrived in the Americas (and that still happens today, btw), is even more terrible.

I got rid of your weak trolling and just focused on this.

Again, what does this matter if you admit that slavery itself was terrible. There is no reason to post this kind of thing unless you are trying to downplay slavery, which is only something that an immature emotionally student individual lacking in empathy does.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I'm examining the issue on a grand scale. A couple hundreds years of slavery is nothing compared to the Arab slave trade or the what the ancient Romans did.

kingkong0124

A couple hundred years of slavery, not to mention the discrimination that went on after that, is terrible enough without comparing it to anything else. You should think about what those people went through and then maybe you won't be so flippant about the issue.

a couple million of your people dying, not to mention the discrimination that happened long before the Africans arrived in the Americas (and that still happens today, btw), is even more terrible. Slavery was bad, I agree, and I'm sorry, but don't make it an excuse for your failures. It's better to man up and accept personal responsibility for your actions, rather than blame it on what white people did 150+ years ago.

> Tells people to "man up" and get over stuff that was still going on within the last few generations

> Brings up sh*t that was going on centuries ago.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Oh boy. You have deep issues if you have such a flippant attitude about slavery.

As for your link, I saw it the first time you posted it. No need to post it again.

worlock77

The Arab slave trade did not focus on a specific ethnic or racial group. And what f*cking relevance do the Romans have here?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I'm examining the issue on a grand scale. A couple hundreds years of slavery is nothing compared to the Arab slave trade or the what the ancient Romans did.

kingkong0124

The Arab slave trade did not focus on a specific ethnic or racial group. And what f*cking relevance do the Romans have here?

The Romans enslaves lots of people. So what? That was 2,000 years ago. The actions and policies of the Roman empire didn't effect people still living today.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

A couple hundred years of slavery, not to mention the discrimination that went on after that, is terrible enough without comparing it to anything else. You should think about what those people went through and then maybe you won't be so flippant about the issue.

GreySeal9

a couple million of your people dying, not to mention the discrimination that happened long before the Africans arrived in the Americas (and that still happens today, btw), is even more terrible.

I got rid of your weak trolling and just focused on this.

Again, what does this matter if you admit that slavery itself was terrible. There is no reason to post this kind of thing unless you are trying to downplay slavery, which is only something that an immature emotionally student individual lacking in empathy does.

It matters because millions upon millions of Jews got killed and are still discriminated against, yet Jewish Americans are fairly successful, earning around the same as Indian Americans or other Asian Americans...I'm not downplaying slavery, all I'm saying is that there's tons of worse things that happened in the history of the world.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

The Arab slave trade did not focus on a specific ethnic or racial group. And what f*cking relevance do the Romans have here?

worlock77

The Romans enslaves lots of people. So what? That was 2,000 years ago. The actions and policies of the Roman empire didn't effect people still living today.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

a couple million of your people dying, not to mention the discrimination that happened long before the Africans arrived in the Americas (and that still happens today, btw), is even more terrible.

kingkong0124

I got rid of your weak trolling and just focused on this.

Again, what does this matter if you admit that slavery itself was terrible. There is no reason to post this kind of thing unless you are trying to downplay slavery, which is only something that an immature emotionally student individual lacking in empathy does.

It matters because millions upon millions of Jews got killed and are still discriminated against, yet Jewish Americans are fairly successful, earning around the same as Indian Americans or other Asian Americans...I'm not downplaying slavery, all I'm saying is that there's tons of worse things that happened in the history of the world.

Yes, you are. You're not fooling anyone.

Also, how is the Holocaust and Jewish discrimination even remotely comparable to slavery, Jim Crow and widespread discrimination in the US? The Holocaust and discrimination of Jews happened largely outside of America (tho Jews did face some discrimination here) whereas discrimination against blacks was widespread and institutional in this country.

You're being extremely dense just for the sake of downplaying something that everybody admits was terrible.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

a couple million of your people dying, not to mention the discrimination that happened long before the Africans arrived in the Americas (and that still happens today, btw), is even more terrible.

kingkong0124

I got rid of your weak trolling and just focused on this.

Again, what does this matter if you admit that slavery itself was terrible. There is no reason to post this kind of thing unless you are trying to downplay slavery, which is only something that an immature emotionally student individual lacking in empathy does.

It matters because millions upon millions of Jews got killed and are still discriminated against, yet Jewish Americans are fairly successful, earning around the same as Indian Americans or other Asian Americans...I'm not downplaying slavery, all I'm saying is that there's tons of worse things that happened in the history of the world.

When was the last time a Jew in this country got told to move to the back of the bus? Or had to attend a seperate, inferior schools? Or had to drink at seperate water fountains? Or had to order their lunch at a seperate counter? Do Jews in this country, by and large, faced with having to attend poorly funded schools in decaying urban areas with little to no economic opportunity? Do Jews in this country face disproportion sentencing in our courts?

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I got rid of your weak trolling and just focused on this.

Again, what does this matter if you admit that slavery itself was terrible. There is no reason to post this kind of thing unless you are trying to downplay slavery, which is only something that an immature emotionally student individual lacking in empathy does.

GreySeal9

It matters because millions upon millions of Jews got killed and are still discriminated against, yet Jewish Americans are fairly successful, earning around the same as Indian Americans or other Asian Americans...I'm not downplaying slavery, all I'm saying is that there's tons of worse things that happened in the history of the world.

Yes, you are. You're not fooling anyone.

Also, how is the Holocaust and Jewish discrimination even remotely comparable to slavery, Jim Crow and widespread discrimination? The Holocaust and discrimination of Jews happened largely outside of America (tho Jews did face some discrimination here) whereas discrimination against blacks was widespread and institutional in this country.

You're being extremely dense just for the sake of downplaying something that everybody admits was terrible.

I'm not downplaying sh*t. If you think I'm downplaying slavery right now, you're downplaying the Holocaust according to your logic.

The fact is, although the Holocaust did happen outside of America, discrimination in the U.S. was still rampant. Also, you cannot deny the emotional toll that this had on Jews living in America...kind of hard to go about your daily routine when large amounts of your people (including family members) were being systematically killed.

I'd argue that living in a developing country like India/Philipines is 10x worse than dealing with the "ramifications" of slavery while still receiving a first world education system and affirmative action policies (like in college for example), that make it easier for you to become successful.

Lol ignorant King kong. King leopold of belgium was responsilbe for over 2 million deaths with his congo genocide fiasco. Millions of Africans died on the passage to the americas. Over 14 million people were forcibly taken and yet america only received around 3 million slaves. King kong your an idiot and a white supremacist. Marth6781

That has nothing to do with the issue, nice strawman though. We're explicity referring to slaves in the USA, not in other countries in the America. Anyhow, only my father is white...a white supremacist would never marry a person that is not white. You're being foolish.

After slavery everything was good for black people

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

It matters because millions upon millions of Jews got killed and are still discriminated against, yet Jewish Americans are fairly successful, earning around the same as Indian Americans or other Asian Americans...I'm not downplaying slavery, all I'm saying is that there's tons of worse things that happened in the history of the world.

kingkong0124

Yes, you are. You're not fooling anyone.

Also, how is the Holocaust and Jewish discrimination even remotely comparable to slavery, Jim Crow and widespread discrimination? The Holocaust and discrimination of Jews happened largely outside of America (tho Jews did face some discrimination here) whereas discrimination against blacks was widespread and institutional in this country.

You're being extremely dense just for the sake of downplaying something that everybody admits was terrible.

I'm not downplaying sh*t. If you think I'm downplaying slavery right now, you're downplaying the Holocaust according to your logic.

The fact is, although the Holocaust did happen outside of America, discrimination in the U.S. was still rampant. Also, you cannot deny the emotional toll that this had on Jews living in America...kind of hard to go about your daily routine when large amounts of your people (including family members) were being systematically killed.

I'd argue that living in a developing country like India/Philipines is 10x worse than dealing with the "ramifications" of slavery while still receiving a first world education system and affirmative action policies (like in college for example), that make it easier for you to become successful.

You are a complete fool.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Lol ignorant King kong. King leopold of belgium was responsilbe for over 2 million deaths with his congo genocide fiasco. Millions of Africans died on the passage to the americas. Over 14 million people were forcibly taken and yet america only received around 3 million slaves. King kong your an idiot and a white supremacist. DroidPhysX

I'm only racist towards Slavic people from Serbia/Bosnia/Macedonia/Albania or wherever Droid is from.

I'm not downplaying sh*t. If you think I'm downplaying slavery right now, you're downplaying the Holocaust according to your logic.kingkong0124

Not at all. Simply pointing out that the Holocaust happened outside America is not downplaying.

On the other hand, you really are downplaying slavery, which is an awful thing to do. It's pretty sickening that you thought it was such a tragedy when people were poking fun at PrototypetTheKid's lack of employment but don't think slavery is a big deal.

I'd argue that living in a developing country like India/Philipines is 10x worse than dealing with the "ramifications" of slavery while still receiving a first world education system and affirmative action policies (like in college for example), that make it easier for you to become successful.

kingkong0124

We've all ready been over this. Affirmative action policies do more for middle class blacks than low income blacks.

The fact that you put ramifications in quotes is a further symptom of your lack of empathy towards slavery and discrimination.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Lol ignorant King kong. King leopold of belgium was responsilbe for over 2 million deaths with his congo genocide fiasco. Millions of Africans died on the passage to the americas. Over 14 million people were forcibly taken and yet america only received around 3 million slaves. King kong your an idiot and a white supremacist. DroidPhysX

I'm not going to call him a racist since he hasn't said anything blatantly racist yet, but it is VERY possible. It would explain his flippant attitude about what blacks went through.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Lol ignorant King kong. King leopold of belgium was responsilbe for over 2 million deaths with his congo genocide fiasco. Millions of Africans died on the passage to the americas. Over 14 million people were forcibly taken and yet america only received around 3 million slaves. King kong your an idiot and a white supremacist. kingkong0124

That has nothing to do with the issue, nice strawman though. We're explicity referring to slaves in the USA, not in other countries in the America. Anyhow, only my father is white...a white supremacist would never marry a person that is not white. You're being foolish.

And yet you keep bringing up sh*t that happened outseide the US and (lol) sh*t that happened centuries, or even millennia, ago.

I had a great uncle who has a high ranking member of the KKK who also kept a Mexican mistress.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]I'm not downplaying sh*t. If you think I'm downplaying slavery right now, you're downplaying the Holocaust according to your logic.GreySeal9

Not at all. Simply pointing out that the Holocaust happened outside America is not downplaying.

On the other hand, you really are downplaying slavery, which is an awful thing to do. It's pretty sickening that you thought it was such a tragedy when people were poking fun at PrototypetTheKid's lack of employment but don't think slavery is a big deal.

I'd argue that living in a developing country like India/Philipines is 10x worse than dealing with the "ramifications" of slavery while still receiving a first world education system and affirmative action policies (like in college for example), that make it easier for you to become successful.

kingkong0124

We've all ready been over this. Affirmative action policies do more for middle class blacks than low income blacks.

The fact that you put ramifications in quotes is a further symptom of your lack of empathy towards slavery and discrimination.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Lol ignorant King kong. King leopold of belgium was responsilbe for over 2 million deaths with his congo genocide fiasco. Millions of Africans died on the passage to the americas. Over 14 million people were forcibly taken and yet america only received around 3 million slaves. King kong your an idiot and a white supremacist. worlock77

That has nothing to do with the issue, nice strawman though. We're explicity referring to slaves in the USA, not in other countries in the America. Anyhow, only my father is white...a white supremacist would never marry a person that is not white. You're being foolish.

And yet you keep bringing up sh*t that happened outseide the US and (lol) sh*t that happened centuries, or even millennia, ago.

I had a great uncle who has a high ranking member of the KKK who also kept a Mexican mistress.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]I'm not downplaying sh*t. If you think I'm downplaying slavery right now, you're downplaying the Holocaust according to your logic.kingkong0124

Not at all. Simply pointing out that the Holocaust happened outside America is not downplaying.

On the other hand, you really are downplaying slavery, which is an awful thing to do. It's pretty sickening that you thought it was such a tragedy when people were poking fun at PrototypetTheKid's lack of employment but don't think slavery is a big deal.

I'd argue that living in a developing country like India/Philipines is 10x worse than dealing with the "ramifications" of slavery while still receiving a first world education system and affirmative action policies (like in college for example), that make it easier for you to become successful.

kingkong0124

We've all ready been over this. Affirmative action policies do more for middle class blacks than low income blacks.

The fact that you put ramifications in quotes is a further symptom of your lack of empathy towards slavery and discrimination.

AA does more for middle class blacks because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school, which makes it easier for them to enjoy the benefits of affirmative action. Contrary to what some of you rightwingers think, you do still have to have good academic performance to reap the benefits of affirmative action.

But I want to know why you have more sympathy for people like PrototypeTheKid and kraychik than people who went through slavery and discrimination. That seems pretty warped.

Well Black people have to vote for obama because the liberal and tolerant White people told them to.

AA does more for middle class blacks because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school, which makes it easier for them to enjoy the benefits of affirmative action. Contrary to what some of you rightwingers think, you do still have to have good academic performance to reap the benefits of affirmative action.

GreySeal9

Just because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school doesn't mean that low income blacks don't have an advantage over other low income groups of people. Also, I honestly don't see how it's that hard to get into a community college or get a GED...

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

That has nothing to do with the issue, nice strawman though. We're explicity referring to slaves in the USA, not in other countries in the America. Anyhow, only my father is white...a white supremacist would never marry a person that is not white. You're being foolish.

kingkong0124

And yet you keep bringing up sh*t that happened outseide the US and (lol) sh*t that happened centuries, or even millennia, ago.

I had a great uncle who has a high ranking member of the KKK who also kept a Mexican mistress.

- I'm not ignoring the ramifications the Holocaust had for Jewish people. The Holocaust also didn't happen in America. Slavery and Jim Crow laws did. You, however, are downplaying the ramifications that slavery and segregation has had for black people and it's f*cking disgusting.

- And those things did not have an effect on people living in the United States todays. So what the f*ck is your point?

- Just saying, you can think you're superior to someone else and still f*ck them.

After slavery everything was good for black people

Bucked20

Pictures might be easier for kingkong's brain to process, but I still wouldn't count on him getting your point.

Well Black people have to vote for obama because the liberal and tolerant White people told them to.

Philokalia

Link?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

AA does more for middle class blacks because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school, which makes it easier for them to enjoy the benefits of affirmative action. Contrary to what some of you rightwingers think, you do still have to have good academic performance to reap the benefits of affirmative action.

kingkong0124

Just because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school doesn't mean that low income blacks don't have an advantage over other low income groups of people.

The point is that you're acting like affirmative action is some kind of huge boon to blacks when it mostly benefits the ones with the most advantages.

i don't give a flying fvck

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

And yet you keep bringing up sh*t that happened outseide the US and (lol) sh*t that happened centuries, or even millennia, ago.

I had a great uncle who has a high ranking member of the KKK who also kept a Mexican mistress.

worlock77

- I'm not ignoring the ramifications the Holocaust had for Jewish people. The Holocaust also didn't happen in America. Slavery and Jim Crow laws did. You, however, are downplaying the ramifications that slavery and segregation has had for black people and it's f*cking disgusting.

- And those things did not have an effect on people living in the United States todays. So what the f*ck is your point?

- Just saying, you can think you're superior to someone else and still f*ck them.

The Holocaust had a huge emotional impact on Jews living the US...also, discrimination against Jews DID happen, believe it or not. Also, you forgot to mention that many of these so called "Black civil rights groups" that came about were anti-semitic in nature... look at the Nation of Islam. As the black community gained civil rights, other communities suffered the consequences of many of these so called "civil rights groups".

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] You're completely ignoring the emotional ramifications that the Holocaust had as well as the discrimination against Jews, which I posted a wikipedia link to above. The reason I'm posting crap that happened centuries ago is to make a point, dude. People are not complaining about the ramifications of the Arab Slave Trade or the Romans slavery. I don't care about your family, ty for the fun fact tho, bro. kingkong0124

- I'm not ignoring the ramifications the Holocaust had for Jewish people. The Holocaust also didn't happen in America. Slavery and Jim Crow laws did. You, however, are downplaying the ramifications that slavery and segregation has had for black people and it's f*cking disgusting.

- And those things did not have an effect on people living in the United States todays. So what the f*ck is your point?

- Just saying, you can think you're superior to someone else and still f*ck them.

The Holocaust had a huge emotional impact on Jews living the US...also, discrimination against Jews DID happen, believe it or not. Also, you forgot to mention that many of these so called "Black civil rights groups" that came about were anti-semitic in nature... look at the Nation of Islam. As the black community gained civil rights, other communities suffered the consequences of many of these so called "civil rights groups".

It's funny how you try to change the subject after your points get trashed. :lol:

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

AA does more for middle class blacks because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school, which makes it easier for them to enjoy the benefits of affirmative action. Contrary to what some of you rightwingers think, you do still have to have good academic performance to reap the benefits of affirmative action.

GreySeal9

Just because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school doesn't mean that low income blacks don't have an advantage over other low income groups of people.

The point is that you're acting like affirmative action is some kind of huge boon to blacks when it mostly benefits the ones with the most advantages.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

- I'm not ignoring the ramifications the Holocaust had for Jewish people. The Holocaust also didn't happen in America. Slavery and Jim Crow laws did. You, however, are downplaying the ramifications that slavery and segregation has had for black people and it's f*cking disgusting.

- And those things did not have an effect on people living in the United States todays. So what the f*ck is your point?

- Just saying, you can think you're superior to someone else and still f*ck them.

GreySeal9

The Holocaust had a huge emotional impact on Jews living the US...also, discrimination against Jews DID happen, believe it or not. Also, you forgot to mention that many of these so called "Black civil rights groups" that came about were anti-semitic in nature... look at the Nation of Islam. As the black community gained civil rights, other communities suffered the consequences of many of these so called "civil rights groups".

It's funny how you try to change the subject after your points get trashed. :lol:

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Just because middle class blacks are more likely to do well in high school doesn't mean that low income blacks don't have an advantage over other low income groups of people.

kingkong0124

The point is that you're acting like affirmative action is some kind of huge boon to blacks when it mostly benefits the ones with the most advantages.

And you come this conclusion how?

And don't bring up affirmative action because that point has all ready been dealt with.