Air bender racism, M Night's response

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#1 dercoo
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Found this article about all this Airbender racism controversy while browsing Google News.

Personally I find all this controversy stupid. It is a Hollywood movie after all, you should expect a big chunk of the main actors to be white.

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#2 JML897
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Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?
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#3 dercoo
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Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?JML897

Don't think so...

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#4 SgtKevali
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Who knows, who cares. That's all I think.

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#5 taj7575
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Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?JML897

Yeah, I think they forgot that part..:lol:

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#6 Perd1t1on
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ha go figure. get them while their young, hardly new.
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#7 scorch-62
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His response confuses me to a degree.
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#8 Baranga
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Read the comments on that article if you wanna rage...

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#9 deactivated-5f1dda6571ed7
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good old affirmative action
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#10 dercoo
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Read the comments on that article if you wanna rage...

Baranga

I found them quite amusing :lol:

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#11 jeremiah06
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good old affirmative actionUnknownmuncher
What? The problem is with the number of white actors and last time I checked that wasn't "good old affirmative action"...
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#12 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]Read the comments on that article if you wanna rage...dercoo
I found them quite amusing :lol:

Page one gave me a headache.
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#13 Flame_Blade88
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Comments are hysterical.
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#14 Theokhoth
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This is what I've been saying the whole time. :lol:

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#15 Hellfire-1
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I don't get why people go out of their way to find rascism in stuff like this. It's ridiculous!
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#16 scorch-62
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This is what I've been saying the whole time. :lol:Theokhoth
Wait, what?
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#17 TecmoGirl
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I'm one of the many people who don't like the race bending going on in this movie either. But the main issue clearly goes beyond just this movie overall. Also, there is no excuse for Zuko to be so freakin ugly.

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#18 funsohng
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I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?
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#19 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]This is what I've been saying the whole time. :lol:scorch-62
Wait, what?

The whole racism issue with this movie. I always point out the fact that only a small chunk of the cast is white--only two characters, in fact--yet nobody seems to listen.
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?

There are TWO WHITE CHARACTERS. Two. It's not an "abundance."
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="funsohng"]I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?

There are TWO WHITE CHARACTERS. Two. It's not an "abundance."

Apparently it is......
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#22 SgtKevali
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I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

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#23 LJS9502_basic
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I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

SgtKevali
You can prove they were the same people?
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#24 SgtKevali
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You can prove they were the same people?LJS9502_basic

No, but I suspect that there would be some overlap considering the general sentiment of both threads.

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#25 jeremiah06
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I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

SgtKevali
Thats different. In the series there is no definite race it was all up to speculation. It's clear who peter parker is. I have to tell you as a black man myself I prefer my white super heroes white. There are plenty of cool black super heroes they could have that guy play. On topic most of the complainers about the last air bender seems to believe light skin = white.
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#26 ImaPirate0202
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Sounds like serious business. No, wait, it doesn't.

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#27 Deihjan
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I don't think it's a racist movie, it's just wrong that they use people who doesn't look at all like the cartoon characters. I realize it's impossible to make them look exactly like their characters, but come on, a white Katara? An indian Zuko? Wat.
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#28 Zaibach
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I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

SgtKevali

no its the same thing, people dont want mythos of something they are passionate about to get warped. Most black people who are spiderman fans wouldnt feel too great about about a black spiderman, and as an Avatar LAB fan making aang, katara and sokka white is kinda annoying...because they are not supposed to be

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#29 gamerguru100
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Who the hell gives a flying **** about the race of actors in whatever movie this is? O_O

I swear to God, race gets more ****ing annoying with each passing day.

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#30 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

SgtKevali

That would be true if the majority were complaining that the main character was white because of the fact he wasn't in the cartoon for the sake of accuracy. However from what i've seen, the vast majority are blaming racism and hidden agenda's that created an "entirely white cast" even though there is only what 3 white characters? It's silly.

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#31 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

Zaibach

no its the same thing, people dont want mythos of something they are passionate about to get warped. Most black people who are spiderman fans wouldnt feel too great about about a black spiderman, and as an Avatar LAB fan making aang, katara and sokka white is kinda annoying...because they are not supposed to be

What are aang, katara and sokka supposed to be? There are no real world races in Avatar.
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#32 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] What are aang, katara and sokka supposed to be? There are no real world races in Avatar.

They are supposed to be asian. The airbender nomads are inspired by Tibetan monks, so they should be, well, Tibetan. Katara and Sokka are supposed to be Inuits. They should be darker in skin tone than Caucasian people.
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?

It happens in Western history and religion as well when they are made into movies, the Thor movie has a Nigerian playing Heimdall (known as the Whitest of Gods), the English show Merlin has what looks to be a Jamaican playing Guineverre (sp?) and other movies and TV shows do the same. I don't like this in the least, if the plot is based in ancient China I do not what to see a Blonde haired Blue eyed White person anymore than I want to see an African in Medieval England. It ruins the atomsphere of the time period and it is frankly absurd and personally insulting for me when my people's history and culture are changed for the sake of "Diversity".
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#35 C-Lee
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Rated PG? :/
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#36 RiskAverseStock
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Where were these people when Gerard Butler was cast as King Leonidas, despite the fact that he doesn't look Greek in the slightest? Where were these people when, in Steven Spielberg's The Terminal, the janitor character named Gupta -- a north Indian name -- claims to be from Chennai -- a south Indian city. Where were these people? Nowhere. Because they only get angry about things that are convenient for them, things that don't require a lot of thought, such as "hey, the people in this cartoon are yellowish, but the people in the movie are white"! Any goddamn three year old can make that basic observation.

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#37 funsohng
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="funsohng"]I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?

There are TWO WHITE CHARACTERS. Two. It's not an "abundance."

no... it seems to me a lot of people in the movie are Caucasian.
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#38 dercoo
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All I see are a bunch a weeaboos complaining that not everyone is Asian.

CJL13

Wait till the actual anime movies hit

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#39 Diablo-B
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IMO people are a bit to carried away as far as this movie is concerned. There are much big social issues we need to deal with over this one. I will say though that in general hollywood casts the hero of most movies as white. Generally the non white actor is made either the side kick or a villain. The problem however isn't hollywood but the audience. Movies and shows featuring white faces have wider audiences then those with black faces. Only a small handful of non white actors get to break throw the barrier. I've heard read separate producers say the same thing.
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?Theokhoth
There are TWO WHITE CHARACTERS. Two. It's not an "abundance."

Avatar had a lot of Asian themes and influences, but the story itself has nothing to do with Asian mythology.

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#41 funsohng
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="funsohng"]I wouldn't say it's racism (I mean, the director is a freaking Asian himself), but I do believe the abundance of white people in a movie based on Asian mythology is quite absurd. or I think Avatar WAS based on Asian Mythology. It is, right?xionvalkyrie

There are TWO WHITE CHARACTERS. Two. It's not an "abundance."

Avatar had a lot of Asian themes and influences, but the story itself has nothing to do with Asian mythology.

ah ok I never saw Avatar so idk.
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#42 Lord_Daemon
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I find it strange that people get angry at the people complaining in this situation, yet also get angry when there was the potential for a black actor to play Spiderman.

SgtKevali

Well the big difference would be that Spider-Man is an iconic figure that has been around almost 50 years and is very familar to people all around the world from all walks of life. Whereas Avatar - The Last Airbender has only been around 5 years which mainly has a core following and not only has it adapted its own mythology and world setting, but it's a cartoon that has adapted an anime style which tends to make race somewhat ambiguous. Much like Speed Racer (who is supposed to be Japanese) most people lightly viewing the show are likely to be unaware as to anyone's particular race.

But really the main difference comes down to the fact that Spider-Man, like Batman and Superman, he is a hugely iconic figure so changing his race is a pretty big deal that a lot of people may be put off by, whereas lesser characters such as when they made Kingpin black in Daredevil just because they felt they had a good actor that fit the role despite his race, people really didn't have an issues with that -- the actual movie he was in was the only objectional thing. >_>

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#43 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Haha, you have got to be kidding me..

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[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"] What are aang, katara and sokka supposed to be? There are no real world races in Avatar.

They are supposed to be asian. The airbender nomads are inspired by Tibetan monks, so they should be, well, Tibetan. Katara and Sokka are supposed to be Inuits. They should be darker in skin tone than Caucasian people.

What are the chances of finding Hollywood quality actors who speak fluent English of those ethnicities?
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#45 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"]I don't think it's a racist movie, it's just wrong that they use people who doesn't look at all like the cartoon characters. I realize it's impossible to make them look exactly like their characters, but come on, a white Katara? An indian Zuko? Wat.

God forbid we have some diversity.
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#46 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"] What are aang, katara and sokka supposed to be? There are no real world races in Avatar.

They are supposed to be asian. The airbender nomads are inspired by Tibetan monks, so they should be, well, Tibetan. Katara and Sokka are supposed to be Inuits. They should be darker in skin tone than Caucasian people.

What are the chances of finding Hollywood quality actors who speak fluent English of those ethnicities?

Screw Hollywood quality, because an Atla live-action movie will be bad no matter who makes it and how good the actors are. It's a doomed project from the get-go, because the fans have high expectations after the third book and how it ended. At least, that's how I see it. I'm a big avatar fan, and I cried when I saw who they cast as Aang. Then I saw who Zuko was to be played by and cried hard. If they want to make a movie about Avatar, they should make it a cartoon. Like, a proper epilogue to the main cartoon. That'd be proper fanservice. See how the Avatar and his wife are doing maybe ten years later, and if the air nomads had returned. *sighs* A fangirl can dream, no?
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#47 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"]I don't think it's a racist movie, it's just wrong that they use people who doesn't look at all like the cartoon characters. I realize it's impossible to make them look exactly like their characters, but come on, a white Katara? An indian Zuko? Wat.

God forbid we have some diversity.

I'm just gonna ignore you, Scorch, because I doubt you've even seen the show.
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#48 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"]I don't think it's a racist movie, it's just wrong that they use people who doesn't look at all like the cartoon characters. I realize it's impossible to make them look exactly like their characters, but come on, a white Katara? An indian Zuko? Wat.

God forbid we have some diversity.

I'm just gonna ignore you, Scorch, because I doubt you've even seen the show.

Your loss because I've seen damn near every single episode.
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#49 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] God forbid we have some diversity.

I'm just gonna ignore you, Scorch, because I doubt you've even seen the show.

Your loss because I've seen damn near every single episode.

Honestly, do you not rage over the fact that Hollywood is making a good show into an abomination of a movie? *rages over the memory of Wolverine origins*
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#50 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"] I'm just gonna ignore you, Scorch, because I doubt you've even seen the show.

Your loss because I've seen damn near every single episode.

Honestly, do you not rage over the fact that Hollywood is making a good show into an abomination of a movie? *rages over the memory of Wolverine origins*

it may be good..M. Night isn't that bad..