Air bender racism, M Night's response

I think the most depressing part of this whole debacle is the fact that those claiming racism are basically saying that the singular most important part of each character in the anime is their race.

Which is probably the most racist thing anyone here has actually done.

GabuEx

I think the most depressing part of this whole debacle is the fact that those claiming racism are basically saying that the singular most important part of each character in the anime is their race.

Which is probably the most racist thing anyone here has actually done.

GabuEx

I agree it is pretty stupid. Anime (and anime like animation, Avatar) tends to have a neutral ethnicity.

Heck, look at Naruto. It is in a Japanese setting, but the main character has blond hair and blue eyes.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I think the most depressing part of this whole debacle is the fact that those claiming racism are basically saying that the singular most important part of each character in the anime is their race.

Which is probably the most racist thing anyone here has actually done.

ShuLordLiuPei

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I think the most depressing part of this whole debacle is the fact that those claiming racism are basically saying that the singular most important part of each character in the anime is their race.

Which is probably the most racist thing anyone here has actually done.

ShuLordLiuPei

Well, obviously Shyamalan does not particularly care about that particular aspect of the show, and obviously neither would someone who cast a black person to play Peter Parker. Nor have many other people cared about accuracy to their source material - Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are not exactly faithful to Batman in its original form.

If someone disliked a black Peter Parker, would he claim that the person who cast a black person into that role was racist? I highly doubt it. Complaining about a lack of accuracy is one thing; levelling the accusation of racism as an explanation for that lack of accuracy is entirely another thing.

But the film is based on a show that is in a country Asian INFLUENCED....not exactly Asian.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] But the film is based on a show that is in a country Asian INFLUENCED....not exactly Asian.ShuLordLiuPei

Actually yes.

[QUOTE="Deihjan"] X-men Origins killed Deadpool tocool340

At least they didn't kill gambit. I would have been absolutely PISSED if they killed him...

They didn't give him his french accent Deihjan

The rest about him my mind blocked automatically. And to all those who say that Atla is Chinese, get it right. The bending types are inspired by martial arts from Asia, the clothes, the nations and the people in the nations are inspired by mostly asian cultures. Look at a map from Atla with the four nations represented, and look at an old nautical map of the world. Place the four nations where they would be on a real life map, and bam, there's where you need to get actors from(or nearby, because no one lives on the south or north pole..)

Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?JML897

[QUOTE="JML897"]Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?Jaguar_Shade

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The complaints are baseless. It's directed by an asian american and they say he's being racist against asians? :| LJS9502_basic

They aren't baselessat least from where I come from.I won't go into why, that's a sure fire moderation and possibly ban.

I am not saying it's racism however I'm just going to say I'm not surprised the main cast is mostly white even though the characters from source material aren't.

[QUOTE="JML897"]Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?Jaguar_Shade

yare you talking about M night or cliff curtis(dude playing firelord ozai)?

All of his movies are controversial. Dont you get it? :P

The director being a minority, is not a excuse.. The directors arn't the ends all of who plays what role those are the producers and executive producers.. Furthermore can you really blame them? People are going to use familiar actors that they know, this automatically means that whites and blacks predominately will be chosen.. The only thing people should be complaining about is why havn't countries like Japan made a movement like Hollywood in being able to rival it in overall cinema.. India has been trying to do this for years already with their own version of Hollywood.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The director being a minority, is not a excuse.. The directors arn't the ends all of who plays what role those are the producers and executive producers.. Furthermore can you really blame them? People are going to use familiar actors that they know, this automatically means that whites and blacks predominately will be chosen.. The only thing people should be complaining about is why havn't countries like Japan made a movement like Hollywood in being able to rival it in overall cinema.. India has been trying to do this for years already with their own version of Hollywood.-Y2J-

I never said it was good, they have been trying to mimic Hollywood and are so far behind.. But its at least something, unlike the majority of countries out there..

Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?JML897

[QUOTE="Deihjan"]They didn't give him his french accent ShuLordLiuPei

The director being a minority, is not a excuse.. The directors arn't the ends all of who plays what role those are the producers and executive producers.. Furthermore can you really blame them? People are going to use familiar actors that they know, this automatically means that whites and blacks predominately will be chosen.. The only thing people should be complaining about is why havn't countries like Japan made a movement like Hollywood in being able to rival it in overall cinema.. India has been trying to do this for years already with their own version of Hollywood.sSubZerOo

Well Japan's animation devision rivals or even surpasses US.;)

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The director being a minority, is not a excuse.. The directors arn't the ends all of who plays what role those are the producers and executive producers.. Furthermore can you really blame them? People are going to use familiar actors that they know, this automatically means that whites and blacks predominately will be chosen.. The only thing people should be complaining about is why havn't countries like Japan made a movement like Hollywood in being able to rival it in overall cinema.. India has been trying to do this for years already with their own version of Hollywood.dercoo

Well Japan's animation devision rivals or even surpasses US.;)

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The director being a minority, is not a excuse.. The directors arn't the ends all of who plays what role those are the producers and executive producers.. Furthermore can you really blame them? People are going to use familiar actors that they know, this automatically means that whites and blacks predominately will be chosen.. The only thing people should be complaining about is why havn't countries like Japan made a movement like Hollywood in being able to rival it in overall cinema.. India has been trying to do this for years already with their own version of Hollywood.LJS9502_basic

Well Japan's animation devision rivals or even surpasses US.;)

Well current US animation

Current Japanese animation.

:P

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

Well Japan's animation devision rivals or even surpasses US.;)

dercoo

Well current US animation

Current Japanese animation.

:P

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't like Japanese animation......LJS9502_basic

Well current US animation

Current Japanese animation.

:P

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Well current US animation

Current Japanese animation.

:P

AirGuitarist87

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[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Right because Family Guy is the epitiome of American animation.:|

dercoo

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[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] Like the show or not, you have to admit the animation on Family Guy is good. I've not seen a show do better lip syncing than that.Deihjan

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US animation can be good, for all the complaining people due about Disney their animation if freaking awesome. Heck, from what I have seen of it Avatar the last air bender seems to have great are (missed the show as I was never into Nick toons, I ******** hate Sponge Bob). Its just US TV animation has gotten bad. Family Guy and its spin offs, south park, and adult swims comedy shows (metalocaplist and Aqua Team) art styl e is just awful.

I miss the good old days of US animation. You know 90's golden era Disney, peak Simpsons, and King of the Hill.:(

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

I'm a massive Avatar fan, yes before James Cameron hijacked the name for his own magum opus,

I was really dissapointed with the casting but the latest trailers are hard to look away from. I cant wait to see the film for better or worse

Deihjan

If you are real fan you should watch it, its 2hrs of your life and there is the chance that its zactually good:shock:

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

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dercoo

US animation can be good, for all the complaining people due about Disney their animation if freaking awesome. Heck, from what I have seen of it Avatar the last air bender seems to have great are (missed the show as I was never into Nick toons, I ******** hate Sponge Bob). Its just US TV animation has gotten bad. Family Guy and its spin offs, south park, and adult swims comedy shows (metalocaplist and Aqua Team) art styl e is just awful.

I miss the good old days of US animation. You know 90's golden era Disney, peak Simpsons, and King of the Hill.:(

I don't see any issues with the movie. I think he did a great job explaining his stance, so to still complain and claim racism is futile at this point.

OMG, lol those actor don't look anything like the drawn cartoon characters. Why can't we get a avatar movie like pokemon the movie all cartoon..Fightingfan

Nickelodeon released two TV movies I believe. That counts.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't like Japanese animation......LJS9502_basic

Well current US animation

Current Japanese animation.

:P

The japanese animation he listed is also not the epitome either :P

Whether the characters are Asian or not, Asians don't really have a lot of starring role potential in Hollywood except for those who have spent decades making a name for themselves in Asia.

US animation can be good, for all the complaining people due about Disney their animation if freaking awesome. Heck, from what I have seen of it Avatar the last air bender seems to have great are (missed the show as I was never into Nick toons, I ******** hate Sponge Bob). Its just US TV animation has gotten bad. Family Guy and its spin offs, south park, and adult swims comedy shows (metalocaplist and Aqua Team) art styl e is just awful.

I miss the good old days of US animation. You know 90's golden era Disney, peak Simpsons, and King of the Hill.:(

dercoo

wow thats alot of pressure, but I think its sad that we live in a such negative society where people knee-jerk into such a cliche reaction withut even seeing the movie.

If you are real fan you should watch it, its 2hrs of your life and there is the chance that its zactually good:shock:

Zaibach

I never watch the show and I don't know specifics, but in general most adaptations from books/animations/video games to movies are done with a certain degree of "untruthfulness". Directors want to put in their own stroke, actors want to portrait the characters they play in a certain way, scripts are somewhat improvise and we have an end product that doesn't quite capture the true spirit of the original work.

But all these fuss about M. Night being a racist should still be good for the movie itself, some people might feel compel to see it simply because of the bad (or good) press it received. Not saying M. Night is in this case, but even if he did try to cast more Caucasians in the movie than necessary I still wouldn't blame the guy. He has to maximize the movie commercial appeal and one way to do it is to build a cast that many consider mainstream society, he needs to make darn sure people will line up to see his movie. He wouldn't be a director if he cannot even accomplish that, no movie studio will hire a guy that couldn't sell tickets

I never watched the show, but the cartoon characters in that article all look white to me. Except the last one, she looks Spanish.cametall

[QUOTE="cametall"]I never watched the show, but the cartoon characters in that article all look white to me. Except the last one, she looks Spanish.gamerguru100