[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"] I'm just gonna ignore you, Scorch, because I doubt you've even seen the show. Your loss because I've seen damn near every single episode. Honestly, do you not rage over the fact that Hollywood is making a good show into an abomination of a movie? *rages over the memory of Wolverine origins* As long as each actor can convince me of which character they are, I don't care what their ethnicity is. That said, I see no reason to "rage" over an actor's skin color when they're playing a character from a show in which damn near every character looks white to begin with (bar the Water tribes and a handful of Earth kingdom characters).
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Your loss because I've seen damn near every single episode. Honestly, do you not rage over the fact that Hollywood is making a good show into an abomination of a movie? *rages over the memory of Wolverine origins* As long as each actor can convince me of which character they are, I don't care what their ethnicity is. That said, I see no reason to "rage" over an actor's skin color when they're playing a character from a show in which damn near every character looks white to begin with (bar the Water tribes and a handful of Earth kingdom characters). I can forgive indian Zuko, besides the fact that the actor is horrible... But a pale water tribe? *sadface*
[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Deihjan"] Honestly, do you not rage over the fact that Hollywood is making a good show into an abomination of a movie? *rages over the memory of Wolverine origins* As long as each actor can convince me of which character they are, I don't care what their ethnicity is. That said, I see no reason to "rage" over an actor's skin color when they're playing a character from a show in which damn near every character looks white to begin with (bar the Water tribes and a handful of Earth kingdom characters). I can forgive indian Zuko, besides the fact that the actor is horrible... But a pale water tribe? *sadface* I loved Dev as Anwar . . . ;____;
[QUOTE="scorch-62"] I loved Dev as Anwar . . . ;____; Well, I hate Skins, so it kinda explains my hatred of Anwar :lol: ..evenifiwatchitwhenitsontv :oops:
[QUOTE="JML897"]Do these people complaining about racism even realize that the director isn't white? :?ManifestoJoe
Yeah, I think they forgot that part..:lol:
lol only white people can be racist :lol: Uhm, no. Noun 1. racist racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others racialist bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination" 2. racistracist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion anti-semite, antiblack discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge"
lol only white people can be racist :lol: Uhm, no. Noun 1. racist racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others racialist bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination" 2. racistracist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion anti-semite, antiblack discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge" My post was sarcasm buddy :|
lol only white people can be racist :lol: Uhm, no. Noun 1. racist racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others racialist bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination" 2. racistracist - discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion anti-semite, antiblack discriminatory, prejudiced - being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge"
They might as well just call this move The Last Racebender. People are looking for more and more excuses to further their political agenda, it's a movie guys, nothing more.
I'm a massive Avatar fan, yes before James Cameron hijacked the name for his own magum opus,
I was really dissapointed with the casting but the latest trailers are hard to look away from. I cant wait to see the film for better or worse
Zaibach
You're going to have to write a review of it then, because I doubt I'll watch it. After The Golden Compass was ruined and X-men Origins killed Deadpool, I don't think I can take many more blows to my fangirl heart :C
I have yet to see this movie, partially because I heard that they kill me.
I can say, I was pretty annoyed at the choices in actor and the artistic differences from the series. I don't think that the issue is the white characters, but that as far as I can tell there isn't a single East Asian actor playing a role in an adaption that's based heavily on East Asian culture.
I'd rather the actors look like the characters at least as close as possible, I don't think that is a ridiculous request... There's no reason to call for racism too.
I have yet to see this movie, partially because I heard that they kill me.
I can say, I was pretty annoyed at the choices in actor and the artistic differences from the series. I don't think that the issue is the white characters, but that as far as I can tell there isn't a single East Asian actor playing a role in an adaption that's based heavily on East Asian culture.
About X-men Origins, I think the best possible choice for Wade Wilson was Ryan Reynolds..and they chose him. I was all HELL YEAH! Then I heard how they made him into an abomination later in the movie, and when I saw it myself I was as heartbroken as possible when it comes to a fictional character. Hell, he didn't even break the fourth wall.
I think the people who claim Shyamalan is racist are racist themselves. The fact that they even thought of that kind of statement shows that they're still stuck in the racism era. Its all over. there shouldn't be anymore of it and on another note, i think this movie is going to be AWESOME !
people have nothing better to report on... when there is clearly other world issues that need light to be brought to them... but instead... they decide to discuss about whether or not a movie is racist... :P
I don't get why people go out of their way to find rascism in stuff like this. It's ridiculous!Hellfire-1
It's called hyper-sensitivity and the world is growing sick of it. Looking for race based problems in any given situation doesn't make you anything other than inherently racist yourself. This entire argument is nonsense. He completely went out of his way to make the movie more multicultural than it was in the cartoon. If he had kept it canon, then everyone in it would be Asian and they would STILL complain.
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The complaints are baseless. It's directed by an asian american and they say he's being racist against asians? :| LJS9502_basic
They aren't baselessat least from where I come from.I won't go into why, that's a sure fire moderation and possibly ban.
Casting actors does not equal to racism.... Exactly, but it doesn't matter where Espada12 is 'coming from', the facts of this movie have been stated very clearly. More than 3/4 of the cast are non-caucasian. What Shyamalan has done more than anything is diversify the cast instead of having it all Asian. It's an interesting concept and I'm glad he has put his own flair and ideas into it. It will make the films more interesting. The last thing they are is racist. If anyone is seeing racism here then they are completely missing the point and are grasping at straws. Constantly trying to find racism in anything people do does nothing more than make YOU racist.
One of my friends was a big fan of the show, and he's very upset about it. I think he has a point - a large part of the show, from what I understand, is about Asian culture. Giving the cast a race lift, as it were...
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]One of my friends was a big fan of the show, and he's very upset about it. I think he has a point - a large part of the show, from what I understand, is about Asian culture. Giving the cast a race lift, as it were... Read the description of the TV show and it says Asian influenced world....not Asian world...so I don't see the problem with casting MULTI CULTURAL actors.
Read the description of the TV show and it says Asian influenced world....not Asian world...so I don't see the problem with casting MULTI CULTURAL actors.LJS9502_basic
I think a few eyebrows would be raised at a film full of tartan-wearing, claymore-carrying, bagpipe-playing, usige-drinking characters being played entirely by Arabic, Argentinian, and Icelandic actors. Even if it was a fictional account, most would expect to see Scottish (or Scottish-resembling) actors. It's the same situation here; if the world uses specifically Chinese architecture, art, clothing, language, weapons, etc. then I expect to see those characters played by East Asian actors.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Read the description of the TV show and it says Asian influenced world....not Asian world...so I don't see the problem with casting MULTI CULTURAL actors.ShuLordLiuPei
I think a few eyebrows would be raised at a film full of tartan-wearing, claymore-carrying, bagpipe-playing, usige-drinking characters being played entirely by Arabic, Argentinian, and Icelandic actors. Even if it was a fictional account, most would expect to see Scottish (or Scottish-resembling) actors. It's the same situation here; if the world uses specifically Chinese architecture, art, clothing, language, weapons, etc. then I expect to see those characters played by East Asian actors. From the cartoon pictures I've seen...it's impossible to nail down any race.
From the cartoon pictures I've seen...it's impossible to nail down any race.LJS9502_basic
Odd, considering the writing throughout the show is Traditional Chinese. The architecture is Chinese architeture. The weapons are Chinese weapons. The clothes are Chinese clothes. Even if you cannot tell that the characters are specifically Chinese, everything surrounding them is. I think it's very clear that they're meant to be Chinese.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] From the cartoon pictures I've seen...it's impossible to nail down any race.ShuLordLiuPei
Odd, considering the writing throughout the show is Traditional Chinese. The architecture is Chinese architeture. The weapons are Chinese weapons. The clothes are Chinese clothes. Even if you cannot tell that the characters are specifically Chinese, everything surrounding them is. I think it's very clear that they're meant to be Chinese. The water tribe is Inuit, the air nomads are Tibetan, the fire nation is Chinese, and the Earth Kingdom is a melting pot. The culture is Chinese-inspired, but its people don't have to be Chinese. Besides, there are only two white people in the movie. most of the cast is Asian-American or Indian.
The water tribe is Inuit, the air nomads are Tibetan, the fire nation is Chinese, and the Earth Kingdom is a melting pot. The culture is Chinese-inspired, but its people don't have to be Chinese. Besides, there are only two white people in the movie. most of the cast is Asian-American or Indian. Theokhoth
There I was specifically talking about the Fire Nation. I don't have a problem with white people in the movie. There's just a lack of East Asian actors it seems, especially for the lead Fire Nation role.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The water tribe is Inuit, the air nomads are Tibetan, the fire nation is Chinese, and the Earth Kingdom is a melting pot. The culture is Chinese-inspired, but its people don't have to be Chinese. Besides, there are only two white people in the movie. most of the cast is Asian-American or Indian. ShuLordLiuPei
There I was specifically talking about the Fire Nation. I don't have a problem with white people in the movie. There's just a lack of East Asian actors it seems, especially for the lead Fire Nation role. They are played by Indian-Americans.
Regardless, I don't really understand what the big deal is. It's just a movie, and the director can choose the cast members that he thinks will help him to best realize his vision (and its apparently a pretty diverse cast at that).
It was never about racism, it's just that the characters cast don't follow the television show. The fire nation was supposed to be a mirror for imperial japan, and water tribes were a mirror for inuet tribes, etc etc. It hardly concerns me though, I'm a lot more worried about things like story continuity, comedy relief, and the stupid looking cgi animals. Appa looks nothing like he does in the show, and doesn't really look like a bison or anything logical, it just looks a stupid face on a big furry body.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] The water tribe is Inuit, the air nomads are Tibetan, the fire nation is Chinese, and the Earth Kingdom is a melting pot. The culture is Chinese-inspired, but its people don't have to be Chinese. Besides, there are only two white people in the movie. most of the cast is Asian-American or Indian. Theokhoth
There I was specifically talking about the Fire Nation. I don't have a problem with white people in the movie. There's just a lack of East Asian actors it seems, especially for the lead Fire Nation role. They are played by Indian-Americans. And Indian-Americans are not East Asian. Chinese culture is obviously very different than Indian.
I think the most depressing part of this whole debacle is the fact that those claiming racism are basically saying that the singular most important part of each character in the anime is their race.
Which is probably the most racist thing anyone here has actually done.
I think the most depressing part of this whole debacle is the fact that those claiming racism are basically saying that the singular most important part of each character in the anime is their race.
Which is probably the most racist thing anyone here has actually done.
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