aliens are not real

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[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

well the big bang theory. is a theory that created the universe.The theory is the most comprehensive and accurate explanation supported by scientific evidence.

dontshackzmii

.. Yet again science is merely the study of natural world.. it did not create anything.. Furthermore the Big Bang Theory is not a creationism theory, it merely is the earliest point we can measure in our universe and was the factor that made the matter of the time form to what it is today.. Scientists do not know what occured before this.

we cant measure the start of the universe because all we would see is darknes No suns means no light.

.......Measure as in time.. That is the earliest point we know of.. And the super matter (what the scientists have been calling it) that exploded which was called the big bang gave off light.

.. Yet again science is merely the study of natural world.. it did not create anything.. Furthermore the Big Bang Theory is not a creationism theory, it merely is the earliest point we can measure in our universe and was the factor that made the matter of the time form to what it is today.. Scientists do not know what occured before this.

sSubZerOo

yes of course it is the earliest point we can measure in our universe. Scientist used scientific evidence to create the big bang theory. thus making it science.

What? I see them standing around outside Home Depot all the time.

Oleg_Huzwog

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Your debate is taking a nose dive into ridiculous retorts.

sSubZerOo

What they are saying have not been even close to be proved. Just because life can Handel the waters of the south pole to the sandy hills of egpyt does not mean we will find life . Maybe there could be gas animals on neptune. But i am not going to act like they are real for no reason . If they are so sure about life being every where then advanced life should not be hard to find. Many planets could only be a few light years away. Why have we heard nothing?

:| I just got done explaining to you that the universe is so vast that we may never find intelligent life or life of any kind outside of the solar system. Due tot eh limits of our technology and the speed of light.. We only have a handful of stars relatively near us. That hardly means there is a good chance when there are countless planets out there..

Life can handel anything according to some people so that should be plenty . Maybe unicorns were real but untill i see a dead horse with a horn i am not going to believe . Without proof there is no point in thinking of alien life . Nasa found water on the moon yet i don't see any space cows .

The universe is so massive that it is within the realm of possibility that there is other life out there.

You realize that aliens can very well be in the form of a simple organism (like bacteria)? Aliens do no necessarily mean the sapient beings so often portrayed in media. Also, they actually have found that the components of life as we know it to exist elsewhere in the universe. That doesn't prove life originated in space or anything, but it does open up possibilities.

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[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

well the big bang theory. is a theory that created the universe.The theory is the most comprehensive and accurate explanation supported by scientific evidence.

Pixel-Pirate

God created the universe

Proof?

Big bang theory has some proof so it gets a leg up. Sorry.

God caused the big bang

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

I believe you have failed to grasp the size of the known universe. It's almost statistically impossible for life NOT TO EXIST somewhere else. It's plausible that life may exist in our own solar system in moons likeEuropa and Titan.

dontshackzmii

technology can over come anything. You base this on what our tiny ape brains understand . Titan is so cold that when it rains you would freeze instantly No way life is there. Life in Europa is even less likely .

This is something that always bothers me with people trying to find life. They base it on how human life works but why would we assume every lifeform out there would exist exactly as organisms on Earth do? Doesn't it make more sense they'd evolve to fit their own ecosystem, not ours? Life on Titan could of evolved to be highly resistable to cold.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

What they are saying have not been even close to be proved. Just because life can Handel the waters of the south pole to the sandy hills of egpyt does not mean we will find life . Maybe there could be gas animals on neptune. But i am not going to act like they are real for no reason . If they are so sure about life being every where then advanced life should not be hard to find. Many planets could only be a few light years away. Why have we heard nothing?

dontshackzmii

:| I just got done explaining to you that the universe is so vast that we may never find intelligent life or life of any kind outside of the solar system. Due tot eh limits of our technology and the speed of light.. We only have a handful of stars relatively near us. That hardly means there is a good chance when there are countless planets out there..

Life can handel anything according to some people so that should be plenty .

No we said life can be durable and handle numerous environments we didn't think were possible.. That doesn't mean it can form anywhere..

Maybe unicorns were real but untill i see a dead horse with a horn i am not going to believe .

Good for you, no one says you should believe it.. But based on our understanding of evolution on how life can form, and numerous other scientific studies.. Not to mention how vast the universe is.. There is pretty much a garentee that life exists out there if we accept the idea of how life formed on Earth..

Without proof there is no point in thinking of alien life . Nasa found water on the moon yet i don't see any space cows .

yet again your point doesn't make any sense what so ever.. We have found planets and moons with similar conditions as ours.. And based as we have seen of life on certain parts of our planet, life may live in extremely hostile environments.. Single celled or simple life though, not intelligent life.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="sameerlel456"]

God created the universe

sameerlel456

Proof?

Big bang theory has some proof so it gets a leg up. Sorry.

God caused the big bang

First part of my other post still stands.

I believe in aliens more than God, unless God is an alien.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="sameerlel456"]

God created the universe

sameerlel456

Proof?

Big bang theory has some proof so it gets a leg up. Sorry.

God caused the big bang

what i believe.

You realize that aliens can very well be in the form of a simple organism (like bacteria)? Aliens do no necessarily mean the sapient beings so often portrayed in media. Also, they actually have found that the components of life as we know it to exist in the universe. That doesn't prove life originated in space or anything, but it does open up possibilities.

Suzy_Q_Kazoo

Hell many scientists believe that the influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by a meteor.. Simply due to the fact on how it was able to prop up in so many places around the world at once.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="sameerlel456"]

god created the universe

sSubZerOo

Proof?

Big bang theory has some proof so it gets a leg up. Sorry.

They are not really one in the same.. The Big Bang Theoryis just the event that formed our galaxy the way it is today.. The matter existed before the Big Bang and scientists have no clue what occured before this.

You'll excuse me if "A Wizard di it" feels like an inadequate explanation to me.

[QUOTE="sameerlel456"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Proof?

Big bang theory has some proof so it gets a leg up. Sorry.

Pixel-Pirate

God caused the big bang

First part of my other post still stands.

sorry can you explain?

If they are so sure about life being every where then advanced life should not be hard to find. Many planets could only be a few light years away. Why have we heard nothing?

dontshackzmii

The universe is unimaginably huge. It would take 4.37 years at the speed of light(186,282 mph) to reach our the nearest star to the sun, Alpha Centauri. The Earth in a small pebble of of several circling a medium sized star. Any other advanced civilizations would be hard pressed to find Earth regardless of their technology. Our galaxy alone contains over 200 million stars, most(some?) with planetary systems. The universe contains billions and billions of galaxies with tens of millions of star in each galaxy. It's big.

Interstellar travel even at speeds beyond light speed is still insufficient because it would take many generation for such beings to travel through the universe because there is so much of the universe to explore.

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

You realize that aliens can very well be in the form of a simple organism (like bacteria)? Aliens do no necessarily mean the sapient beings so often portrayed in media. Also, they actually have found that the components of life as we know it to exist in the universe. That doesn't prove life originated in space or anything, but it does open up possibilities.

sSubZerOo

Hell many scientists believe that the influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by a meteor.. Simply due to the fact on how it was able to prop up in so many places around the world at once.

Oh that is just insane

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

You realize that aliens can very well be in the form of a simple organism (like bacteria)? Aliens do no necessarily mean the sapient beings so often portrayed in media. Also, they actually have found that the components of life as we know it to exist in the universe. That doesn't prove life originated in space or anything, but it does open up possibilities.

sSubZerOo

Hell many scientists believe that the influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by a meteor.. Simply due to the fact on how it was able to prop up in so many places around the world at once.

Quite frankly, I have strong belief that they do (personally).

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

What? I see them standing around outside Home Depot all the time.

ferrari2001

You seem to be the most knowledgable alien expert here. Attention OT: kindly direct all future questions to this gentleman.

Oh really? Well then please explain to me what the hell this is?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Proof?

Big bang theory has some proof so it gets a leg up. Sorry.

Pixel-Pirate

They are not really one in the same.. The Big Bang Theoryis just the event that formed our galaxy the way it is today.. The matter existed before the Big Bang and scientists have no clue what occured before this.

You'll excuse me if "A Wizard di it" feels like an inadequate explanation to me.

No what I am trying to point out is the fact that scientist don't suggest what created the universe.. The Big Bang did not create the matter that was already there, it was just the action that set into motion the forming of the galaxy.. This isn't suggesting god exists or what not.. But they really arn't the same thing being argued.

I don't know why people believe in them without proof . I have heard people say there must be life out there. But if there is life out in space. Why have we got no sign of it? There could be millions of of planets out there with life on them. Witch means some could be millions of years a head in technology. simply saying " Bu Bu teh galaxy is so big" does not cut it if they master space travel . They could have the power to bend space and time if they are so advanced .

We have been watching outter space for 1000s of years and have been looking for radio waves for over 40 years and all we have got back from space is silence . There is no life out there we are the only ones .

dontshackzmii

Oh really? Well then please explain to me what the hell this is?

poptart

its a form of troll. very rare. little is known about this creature

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

You realize that aliens can very well be in the form of a simple organism (like bacteria)? Aliens do no necessarily mean the sapient beings so often portrayed in media. Also, they actually have found that the components of life as we know it to exist in the universe. That doesn't prove life originated in space or anything, but it does open up possibilities.

dontshackzmii

Hell many scientists believe that the influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by a meteor.. Simply due to the fact on how it was able to prop up in so many places around the world at once.

Oh that is just insane

IDK about that.. Seems like a possibility that this virus was able to spread so fast and pop up all over the world.. Transportation in 1918 was slow, in no where compared to days where a virus could spread fast due to flying jets..

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

If they are so sure about life being every where then advanced life should not be hard to find. Many planets could only be a few light years away. Why have we heard nothing?

FFCYAN

The universe is unimaginably huge. It would take 4.37 years at the speed of light(186,282 mph) to reach our the nearest star to the sun, Alpha Centauri. The Earth in a small pebble of of several circling a medium sized star. Any other advanced civilizations would be hard pressed to find Earth regardless of their technology. Our galaxy alone contains over 200 million stars, most(some?) with planetary systems. The universe contains billions and billions of galaxies which tens of millions of star in each galaxy. It's big.

Interstellar travel even at speeds beyond light speed is still insufficient because it would take many generation for such beings to travel through the universe because there is so much of the universe to explore.

The speed of light does not matter . Our universe could be inside one that makes ours look like dust in the wind . scale means nothing i am a short man but to a fly i am massive . Technology could make worrying about the speed of light pointles .

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

If they are so sure about life being every where then advanced life should not be hard to find. Many planets could only be a few light years away. Why have we heard nothing?

dontshackzmii

The universe is unimaginably huge. It would take 4.37 years at the speed of light(186,282 mph) to reach our the nearest star to the sun, Alpha Centauri. The Earth in a small pebble of of several circling a medium sized star. Any other advanced civilizations would be hard pressed to find Earth regardless of their technology. Our galaxy alone contains over 200 million stars, most(some?) with planetary systems. The universe contains billions and billions of galaxies which tens of millions of star in each galaxy. It's big.

Interstellar travel even at speeds beyond light speed is still insufficient because it would take many generation for such beings to travel through the universe because there is so much of the universe to explore.

The speed of light does not matter . Our universe could be inside one that makes ours look like dust in the wind . scale means nothing i am a short man but to a fly i am massive . Technology could make worrying about the speed of light pointles .

Radical dude. Totally.

well if they're so technologically advanced and can bend space and stuff, wouldn't you say they're able to observe us without being seen ? ...

I don't know why people believe in them without proof . I have heard people say there must be life out there. But if there is life out in space. Why have we got no sign of it? There could be millions of of planets out there with life on them. Witch means some could be millions of years a head in technology. simply saying " Bu Bu teh galaxy is so big" does not cut it if they master space travel . They could have the power to bend space and time if they are so advanced .

We have been watching outter space for 1000s of years and have been looking for radio waves for over 40 years and all we have got back from space is silence . There is no life out there we are the only ones .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

I believe you have failed to grasp the size of the known universe. It's almost statistically impossible for life NOT TO EXIST somewhere else. It's plausible that life may exist in our own solar system in moons likeEuropa and Titan.

dontshackzmii

technology can over come anything. You base this on what our tiny ape brains understand . Titan is so cold that when it rains you would freeze instantly No way life is there. Life in Europa is even less likely .

Why not? Just because us humans can't live in those environments, doesn't mean alien life can adapt to extreme elements. And for all we know it can be just a simple fungus or single cell organism that lives on on Europa and Titan and that'd be all the evidence we need for alien life. Now intelligent life is another story...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]its pretty naive to think that we're the only planet in the entire universe with life on it.....dontshackzmii

I think its pretty naive to think there are others out there without proof. My house has never been broken into by that logic every house must have not .

I just have to say, I have tried to imagine the scale of the universe.

I shi*ted myself.

sameerlel456

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34QThis will boggle you.. This is just talking about physical size of objects out there.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Hell many scientists believe that the influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by a meteor.. Simply due to the fact on how it was able to prop up in so many places around the world at once.

sSubZerOo

Oh that is just insane

IDK about that.. Seems like a possibility that this virus was able to spread so fast and pop up all over the world.. Transportation in 1918 was slow, in no where compared to days where a virus could spread fast due to flying jets..

It happen so fast because it was the end of world war 1. Millions of people travel across the world to get home .

well if they're so technologically advanced and can bend space and stuff, wouldn't you say they're able to observe us without being seen ? ...

ValHazzard

exactly. who knows. they could be walking on our planet. watching us. studying us. they probably know more about the human race then we do.

[QUOTE="ValHazzard"]

well if they're so technologically advanced and can bend space and stuff, wouldn't you say they're able to observe us without being seen ? ...

T_REX305

exactly. who knows. they could be walking on our planet. watching us. studying us. they probably know more about the human race then we do.

... u weren't supposed to know about that...

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Oh that is just insane

dontshackzmii

IDK about that.. Seems like a possibility that this virus was able to spread so fast and pop up all over the world.. Transportation in 1918 was slow, in no where compared to days where a virus could spread fast due to flying jets..

It happen so fast because it was the end of world war 1. Millions of people travel across the world to get home .

It hit places like India where they were not involved.. FURTHERMORE it hit before World War 1 ended.

I thought we had lots of atheists on gamespot. What happen logic and reason? What happen to not believeing in somthing without proof? Weather or not how big space is does not give you any reason to think there is life out there .

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]

You realize that aliens can very well be in the form of a simple organism (like bacteria)? Aliens do no necessarily mean the sapient beings so often portrayed in media. Also, they actually have found that the components of life as we know it to exist in the universe. That doesn't prove life originated in space or anything, but it does open up possibilities.

dontshackzmii

Hell many scientists believe that the influenza epidemic of 1918 was caused by a meteor.. Simply due to the fact on how it was able to prop up in so many places around the world at once.

Oh that is just insane

[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

[QUOTE="ValHazzard"]

well if they're so technologically advanced and can bend space and stuff, wouldn't you say they're able to observe us without being seen ? ...

sameerlel456

exactly. who knows. they could be walking on our planet. watching us. studying us. they probably know more about the human race then we do.

... u weren't supposed to know about that...

TC and other non believers.

i found out that sameerlel456 is a alien.

I thought we had lots of atheists on gamespot. What happen logic and reason? What happen to not believeing in somthing without proof? Weather or not how big space is does not give you any reason to think there is life out there .

dontshackzmii

Thats amusing because its the science community that has put forward the idea, not the theists.. Scientists will be the first to admit that our technology is meaningless against the awesome size, power of most objects and of the overall universe..

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

IDK about that.. Seems like a possibility that this virus was able to spread so fast and pop up all over the world.. Transportation in 1918 was slow, in no where compared to days where a virus could spread fast due to flying jets..

sSubZerOo

It happen so fast because it was the end of world war 1. Millions of people travel across the world to get home .

It hit places like India where they were not involved.. FURTHERMORE it hit before World War 1 ended.

Everyone was effected by it thats why its called a world war. Yes India did have a part in it .

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

It happen so fast because it was the end of world war 1. Millions of people travel across the world to get home .

dontshackzmii

It hit places like India where they were not involved.. FURTHERMORE it hit before World War 1 ended.

Everyone was effected by it thats why its called a world war. Yes India did have a part in it .

:lol: No they weren't! The only place near them that were involved were the Ottoman Empire, and they were far away. FURTHERMORE I already pointed out that the influenza epidemic hit before the war ended.. And It hit places of the planet all at once, places that was not involved in WW1 nor were there enough traffic in the time it hit to surmise that it spread from one source.. Transportation back was extremely slow compared to today's standards.. Hell thats a understatement, it was at a snail's pace.

[QUOTE="sameerlel456"]

[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

exactly. who knows. they could be walking on our planet. watching us. studying us. they probably know more about the human race then we do.

T_REX305

... u weren't supposed to know about that...

TC and other non believers.

i found out that sameerlel456 is a alien.

we are locating you right now

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

It hit places like India where they were not involved.. FURTHERMORE it hit before World War 1 ended.

sSubZerOo

Everyone was effected by it thats why its called a world war. Yes India did have a part in it .

:lol: No they weren't! The only place near them that were involved were the Ottoman Empire, and they were far away. FURTHERMORE I already pointed out that the influenza epidemic hit before the war ended.. And It hit places of the planet all at once, places that was not involved in WW1 nor were there enough traffic in the time it hit to surmise that it spread from one source.. Transportation back was extremely slow compared to today's standards.. Hell thats a understatement, it was at a snail's pace.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/india_and_world_war_one.htm

Not the greatest source but if this is incorrect please show me something that says so

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

If they are so sure about life being every where then advanced life should not be hard to find. Many planets could only be a few light years away. Why have we heard nothing?

dontshackzmii

The universe is unimaginably huge. It would take 4.37 years at the speed of light(186,282 mph) to reach our the nearest star to the sun, Alpha Centauri. The Earth in a small pebble of of several circling a medium sized star. Any other advanced civilizations would be hard pressed to find Earth regardless of their technology. Our galaxy alone contains over 200 million stars, most(some?) with planetary systems. The universe contains billions and billions of galaxies which tens of millions of star in each galaxy. It's big.

Interstellar travel even at speeds beyond light speed is still insufficient because it would take many generation for such beings to travel through the universe because there is so much of the universe to explore.

The speed of light does not matter . Our universe could be inside one that makes ours look like dust in the wind . scale means nothing i am a short man but to a fly i am massive . Technology could make worrying about the speed of light pointles .

Scale matters. You cannot be at two, three, one billion places at once. To find other civilizations would be serious trial and error because of the fact that the universe is so big and the aliens I would figure, too few and small to travel such distances in their lifetimes.

Nothing you are saying as any basis in present and future realities.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Everyone was effected by it thats why its called a world war. Yes India did have a part in it .

testfactor888

:lol: No they weren't! The only place near them that were involved were the Ottoman Empire, and they were far away. FURTHERMORE I already pointed out that the influenza epidemic hit before the war ended.. And It hit places of the planet all at once, places that was not involved in WW1 nor were there enough traffic in the time it hit to surmise that it spread from one source.. Transportation back was extremely slow compared to today's standards.. Hell thats a understatement, it was at a snail's pace.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/india_and_world_war_one.htm

Not the greatest source but if this is incorrect please show me something that says so

I stand corrected, but the main point is the influenza epidemic was in full swing before the war ever ended and soldiers went home..

[QUOTE="testfactor888"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

:lol: No they weren't! The only place near them that were involved were the Ottoman Empire, and they were far away. FURTHERMORE I already pointed out that the influenza epidemic hit before the war ended.. And It hit places of the planet all at once, places that was not involved in WW1 nor were there enough traffic in the time it hit to surmise that it spread from one source.. Transportation back was extremely slow compared to today's standards.. Hell thats a understatement, it was at a snail's pace.

sSubZerOo

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/india_and_world_war_one.htm

Not the greatest source but if this is incorrect please show me something that says so

I stand corrected, but the main point is the influenza epidemic was in full swing before the war ever ended and soldiers went home..

so how did this rock from space make it go everywhere? Do you think they just fell off and grew as it fell. like that would happen. People even back in 1918 went all over the world by boat in massive over crowed ships . the end of a world war would have many people all over the world going all over the place. its not a shock to think it would move fast .

Maybe they're not advanced enough to visit, just like us.