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#251 muffincakes87
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[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

"Native"

Did I offend anyone?

Jandurin

Are you British?

Nope.

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] But it does matter:| If all other views point to the TC's than It would of been a waste of breath.bazookajoe19

No it doesn't. There are many factors here that we don't have. Perhaps his school is having racial problems. In that case the school would have a zero tolerance policy toward racist statements....and while from his post it seems to be overreacting...it doesn't change the fact that if perceived racist comments are grounds for punishment then both should have been punished.....otherwise neither should have been. Which is my point. :roll:

Which brings to my point as well. How would "native" be racist? I think I had the last laugh in this thread.

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

But for something as silly, as the word native?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

"Native"

Did I offend anyone?

muffincakes87

Are you British?

Nope.

Well, I still wouldn't be offended even if you were. So there.
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#254 muffincakes87
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[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

"Native"

Did I offend anyone?

Pirate700

Reported.

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#255 bazookajoe19
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] Really? Show me some proof, that I made my opinions sound like facts.Vilot_Hero
Anytime you decide what is or is not offensive you are stating opinion....and you state it that it is definitive and not opinion.

Like the word native? And just FYI native isn't an offensive word. Your opinions sounded more like facts, than of mine.

I made no statement in regard to whether the word is offensive or not. You did. Thus you have stated YOUR OPINION AS FACT.:lol:

But native still isn't an offensive word:| Hence why I made it sound like a fact.

are you being serious!? you are so hypocritical.

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[QUOTE="muffincakes87"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="muffincakes87"]

"Native"

Did I offend anyone?

Jandurin

Are you British?

Nope.

Well, I still wouldn't be offended even if you were. So there.

Horray!

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#257 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I think this may be the most pointless argument I've ever taken part in.
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#258 PlzDuntBanMe
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WTF, I live in Canada, and we have to say "Native" when we are doing History and Geography. Thats screwed up.
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[QUOTE="bazookajoe19"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] But it does matter:| If all other views point to the TC's than It would of been a waste of breath.Vilot_Hero

No it doesn't. There are many factors here that we don't have. Perhaps his school is having racial problems. In that case the school would have a zero tolerance policy toward racist statements....and while from his post it seems to be overreacting...it doesn't change the fact that if perceived racist comments are grounds for punishment then both should have been punished.....otherwise neither should have been. Which is my point. :roll:

Which brings to my point as well. How would "native" be racist? I think I had the last laugh in this thread.

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

But for something as silly, as the word native?

That is completely irrelevant.

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[QUOTE="andyboiii"]

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Jandurin
I set it up :P No, I can't take responsibility. Vilot_Hero set this up all by themselves :| The obstinacy is unparalleled.

You set up my post that he keeps repeating? I don't think so...
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#261 joshrocks2245
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Get a lawyer and sue the school!!

It should work, because they are saying you can't say something that you are allowed to say.

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#262 AirGuitarist87
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I think this may be the most pointless argument I've ever taken part in.Jandurin

Or has it? Discuss.

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You set up my post that he keeps repeating? I don't think so...LJS9502_basic
The problem isn't that the person doesn't understand your post, it's that they think you're saying native is offensive. *I think* You can't have expected that anyone would respond to your post in that way.
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#264 LJS9502_basic  Online
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You set up my post that he keeps repeating? I don't think so...Jandurin
The problem isn't that the person doesn't understand your post, it's that they think you're saying native is offensive. *I think* You can't have expected that anyone would respond to your post in that way.

He picks my posts out to argue with in most threads I've encountered him in....for whatever reason.:?
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="bazookajoe19"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] But it does matter:| If all other views point to the TC's than It would of been a waste of breath.bazookajoe19

No it doesn't. There are many factors here that we don't have. Perhaps his school is having racial problems. In that case the school would have a zero tolerance policy toward racist statements....and while from his post it seems to be overreacting...it doesn't change the fact that if perceived racist comments are grounds for punishment then both should have been punished.....otherwise neither should have been. Which is my point. :roll:

Which brings to my point as well. How would "native" be racist? I think I had the last laugh in this thread.

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

But for something as silly, as the word native?

That is completely irrelevant.

Please elaborate on why It is irrelevant to the matter at hand.
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#266 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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He picks my posts out to argue with in most threads I've encountered him in....for whatever reason.:?LJS9502_basic
What, another one? You sure are popular. :lol:
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What, another one? You sure are popular. :lol:Jandurin
I think I've encountered him under a different user name......:o
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You set up my post that he keeps repeating? I don't think so...LJS9502_basic
The problem isn't that the person doesn't understand your post, it's that they think you're saying native is offensive. *I think* You can't have expected that anyone would respond to your post in that way.

He picks my posts out to argue with in most threads I've encountered him in....for whatever reason.:?

I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.
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#269 LJS9502_basic  Online
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I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Vilot_Hero
I haven't posted anything incorrect. You just don't agree with it. Big difference. The weather here is seasonal....but I like the cooler temperature.
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#270 bazookajoe19
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[QUOTE="bazookajoe19"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="bazookajoe19"]

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

Vilot_Hero

But for something as silly, as the word native?

That is completely irrelevant.

Please elaborate on why It is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

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I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Vilot_Hero
So you're doing a service for Gamespot and LJ?
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#272 123625
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Thats strange, since when was native considered racist? Anyway the teacher is clearly wrong.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.LJS9502_basic
I haven't posted anything incorrect. You just don't agree with it. Big difference. The weather here is seasonal....but I like the cooler temperature.

You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Jandurin
So you're doing a service for Gamespot and LJ?

If he is posting incorrect things, than I will correct him with the right information.
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You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.Vilot_Hero
:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Vilot_Hero
I haven't posted anything incorrect. You just don't agree with it. Big difference. The weather here is seasonal....but I like the cooler temperature.

You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.

I was there for that little scuffle. You were wrong and you're still wrong. You were lying to yourself the entire time to maybe make yourself think you didn't lose a debate, and a pathetic attempt to make others think that you were right.

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#277 andyboiii
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If he is posting incorrect things, than I will correct him with the right information.Vilot_Hero

correct information? last time I checked there have been at least 10 users in this thread ALL trying to correct your information :lol:

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#278 AirGuitarist87
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Is this thread about racism anymore?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Vilot_Hero
So you're doing a service for Gamespot and LJ?

If he is posting incorrect things, than I will correct him with the right information.

It would be then, not than. And correct would be more correct than right.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.LJS9502_basic

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.
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The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.Vilot_Hero
:lol: And I thought I was stubborn....
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#282 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Jandurin
So you're doing a service for Gamespot and LJ?

If he is posting incorrect things, than I will correct him with the right information.

It would be then, not than. And correct would be more correct than right.

Iv been here trying to change LJ's opinion since eight this morning:| Simple mistakes aren't going to kill anyone.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.LJS9502_basic
:lol: And I thought I was stubborn....

I assure you that any historian would tell you, that Conquest's are not wars.
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Simple mistakes aren't going to kill anyone.Vilot_Hero
Neither is someone being wrong on the internet (in your opinion) going to kill you. :|
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#285 LikeHaterade
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.Vilot_Hero

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.

I would assume that a country would go to war if another country was attempting to conquer it. Conquest is war. The battles weren't counted. ;)

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.Vilot_Hero
:lol: And I thought I was stubborn....

I assure you that any historian would tell you, that Conquest's are not wars.

I don't want to continue that argument here....suffice to say you were owned by at least ten different users in that thread.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="bazookajoe19"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="bazookajoe19"]

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

bazookajoe19

But for something as silly, as the word native?

That is completely irrelevant.

Please elaborate on why It is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

He's not arguing whether the word "native" is racist or not. He is just saying that if one of them is punished, both of them should be punished. What don't you understand about that?

Let's get back on topic. Vilot still doesn't understand what the arguement was even about.

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So i live in Canada and supposedly up here your not allowed to say the word "native" if your white. Anyways heres the story. I was sitting math class and my friend Trevor comes up to me and calls me white as a butter and i tell him hes brown like a native. Next thing i know the teacher comes up to me tells me to leave class and wait in the hallway for the principle to come and talk to me.

He brings me up to the office and he says I'm not allowed to say the word "Native" but "First nations" and tells me he could suspend me or even expel me for saying Trevor is a native.

Then i asked him this question

"IF i was native would i be up here right now?"

and he says "Probably not" So according to him natives are allowed to say native but us white people are not.

So he gave me garbage duty instead and i had to walk around the school being laughed at.

IS the principle right or am i wrong? Just wanted to know what you guys think.

XileLord
Wrong you are allowed to say native, the teacher is wrong, it better than saying Indian. Plus you said it to your friend, the teacher should ask your friend if it is offensive to him.

Native means

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native isn't racist at all. your teacher must hate you for some reason
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.LikeHaterade

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.

I would assume that a country would go to war if another country was attempting to conquer it. Conquest is war. The battles weren't counted. ;)

Conquest is taking one area and holding It:| War is conquering the whole country.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.LJS9502_basic
:lol: And I thought I was stubborn....

I assure you that any historian would tell you, that Conquest's are not wars.

I don't want to continue that argument here....suffice to say you were owned by at least ten different users in that thread.

Far from that. I provided solid points(Some points were above solid). And I counted 94 wars from France. Anyone can try and disprove that.
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#292 LikeHaterade
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.Vilot_Hero

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.

I would assume that a country would go to war if another country was attempting to conquer it. Conquest is war. The battles weren't counted. ;)

Conquest is taking one area and holding It:| War is conquering the whole country.

You know, the word conquest is derived from the word conquer.;)

War can be galvanized by anything. Conquest is war in means of one entity attempting to conquer another.

The definition of "Conquest" is the act of conquering.

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.LikeHaterade

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.

I would assume that a country would go to war if another country was attempting to conquer it. Conquest is war. The battles weren't counted. ;)

Conquest is taking one area and holding It:| War is conquering the whole country.

You know, the word conquest is derived from the word conquer.;)

It has some relation, but It is still not the same.

War can be galvanized by anything. Conquest is war in means of one entity attempting to conquer another.

Conquest is like Annexing, but war on the other hand is destroying another entity.

The definition of "Conquest" is the act of conquering.

Conquering doesn't mean the entire country.

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#294 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]I pick out your post's because I don't agree with them, and sometimes you can post incorrect things without knowing it. It is possible to change peoples opinions, weather they be good or bad.Vilot_Hero
So you're doing a service for Gamespot and LJ?

If he is posting incorrect things, than I will correct him with the right information.

Your philanthropy knows no bounds.

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#295 LikeHaterade
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.Vilot_Hero

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.

I would assume that a country would go to war if another country was attempting to conquer it. Conquest is war. The battles weren't counted. ;)

Conquest is taking one area and holding It:| War is conquering the whole country.

You know, the word conquest is derived from the word conquer.;)

It has some relation, but It is still not the same.

War can be galvanized by anything. Conquest is war in means of one entity attempting to conquer another.

Conquest is like Annexing, but war on the other hand is destroying another entity.

The definition of "Conquest" is the act of conquering.

Conquering doesn't mean the entire country.

FYI, if you are conquering something, it does mean the entire entity.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conquest

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#296 duxup
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I've been trying to contact the Hague War Crimes Tribunal but they just keep telling me to stop calling.
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#297 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You said France has had more wars than America...Guess what? That's incorrect. And one small spelling mistake. We all make them once in a while, especially in arguments that is significant to OT.LikeHaterade

:lol: The facts in that thread were against you. You pick and choose what you consider proof and discard what contradicts your opinion. :lol:

The facts were against you dude:| Conquest's don't count as wars, and battles don't either.

I would assume that a country would go to war if another country was attempting to conquer it. Conquest is war. The battles weren't counted. ;)

Conquest is taking one area and holding It:| War is conquering the whole country.

You know, the word conquest is derived from the word conquer.;)

It has some relation, but It is still not the same.

War can be galvanized by anything. Conquest is war in means of one entity attempting to conquer another.

Conquest is like Annexing, but war on the other hand is destroying another entity.

The definition of "Conquest" is the act of conquering.

Conquering doesn't mean the entire country.

FYI, if you are conquering something, it does mean the entire entity.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conquest

That definition is wrong. Online dictionaries aren't too reliable.
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#299 fbigent34
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I've been trying to contact the Hague War Crimes Tribunal but they just keep telling me to stop calling.duxup

Another rule or is this a crime. :P

Native i dont see how yuo can get punish for racism there. I would contact the schools supernintendo as ralaph would say on th simpoins :P

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#300 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Far from that. I provided solid points(Some points were above solid). And I counted 94 wars from France. Anyone can try and disprove that.Vilot_Hero
Actually you provided only opinion...none of which was solid as you cherry pick what you consider as factual. And online dictionaries are as reliable as other dictionaries. They are published on the web instead of book form. The words aren't changed in meaning because they are on the web.