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#151 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] LJ said "he doesn't have the other half of the story", and I'm telling him how could you possibly get the other side of the story? You cant, so that means we have to base our info on what the TC provided.Vilot_Hero
Actually that means you have a healthy skepticism about the story.;)

But if we cant get the other side of the story, than that means the one part cant be a "part" of the whole picture. We would have to consider what the TC gave us the whole picture, and not half of it.

*sigh* There are three sides to every story.....Side A....Side B....and the truth which lies somewhere in between the two. Intelligence takes nothing at face value.;)
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#152 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] LJ said "he doesn't have the other half of the story", and I'm telling him how could you possibly get the other side of the story? You cant, so that means we have to base our info on what the TC provided.xhellcatx
Actually that means you have a healthy skepticism about the story.;)

But if we cant get the other side of the story, than that means the one part cant be a "part" of the whole picture. We would have to consider what the TC gave us the whole picture, and not half of it.

Yet there could be misconseptions and lies laced through it. Not the FULL picture. And rather jumping the gun...*coughs* he would rather have all info.

And I'm telling him, how can we get all the info? We cant unless someone goes to Kamloops. And why would the TC lie? He seems like a good kid.
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#153 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I don't have time for these short, but silly phrases.Vilot_Hero
Time is short! Let's go argue about racism in Canada on internet forums! Serious post is serious.
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#154 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] LJ said "he doesn't have the other half of the story", and I'm telling him how could you possibly get the other side of the story? You cant, so that means we have to base our info on what the TC provided.LJS9502_basic
Actually that means you have a healthy skepticism about the story.;)

But if we cant get the other side of the story, than that means the one part cant be a "part" of the whole picture. We would have to consider what the TC gave us the whole picture, and not half of it.

*sigh* There are three sides to every story.....Side A....Side B....and the truth which lies somewhere in between the two. Intelligence takes nothing at face value.;)

Tough crowd here. How can there be three sides, if another person tells us the exact same thing, the TC told us? I'm sure it would count as the same side, hence only one side.
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#155 LJS9502_basic
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Tough crowd here. How can there be three sides, if another person tells us the exact same thing, the TC told us? I'm sure it would count as the same side, hence only one side.Vilot_Hero
Wow dude....you don't get it. Doesn't matter if he told the truth as he saw it because no two people see things the same.

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#156 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] Tough crowd here. How can there be three sides, if another person tells us the exact same thing, the TC told us? I'm sure it would count as the same side, hence only one side.LJS9502_basic

Wow dude....you don't get it. Doesn't matter if he told the truth as he saw itbecause no two people see things the same.

Of course no one see's the same exact words depending on the situation, but It still doesn't change the fact that the punishment was unfair(Something you seem to have forgotten).
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#157 andyboiii
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] Tough crowd here. How can there be three sides, if another person tells us the exact same thing, the TC told us? I'm sure it would count as the same side, hence only one side.Vilot_Hero

Wow dude....you don't get it. Doesn't matter if he told the truth as he saw itbecause no two people see things the same.

Of course no one see's the same exact words depending on the situation, but It still doesn't change the fact that the punishment was unfair(Something you seem to have forgotten).

he know's the punishment is unfair numbnut. He didn't say it WAS right to punish them but IF keyword is IF the school has that policy then both should have been sent to the principal. Reading comprehension FTW!

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#158 xhellcatx
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he know's the punishment is unfair numbnut. He didn't say it WAS right to punish them but IF keyword is IF the school has that policy then both should have been sent to the principal. Reading comprehension FTW! andyboiii
NO DONT! ITS A TRAP!! *covers her eyes*
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#159 FallofAthens
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So i live in Canada and supposedly up here your not allowed to say the word "native" if your white. Anyways heres the story. I was sitting math class and my friend Trevor comes up to me and calls me white as a butter and i tell him hes brown like a native. Next thing i know the teacher comes up to me tells me to leave class and wait in the hallway for the principle to come and talk to me.

He brings me up to the office and he says I'm not allowed to say the word "Native" but "First nations" and tells me he could suspend me or even expel me for saying Trevor is a native.

Then i asked him this question

"IF i was native would i be up here right now?"

and he says "Probably not" So according to him natives are allowed to say native but us white people are not.

So he gave me garbage duty instead and i had to walk around the school being laughed at.

IS the principle right or am i wrong? Just wanted to know what you guys think.

XileLord

Actually, though I do not justify the punishment you recieved, you did make a racial term out of native. When you insulted him after he called you white you did the same thing to him out of spite. That, in my eyes, is racism. The term native is not racists in itself but it depends on how you use it. That said you shouldn't have been the only one to get into trouble. As LJ said you both should have gotten equally in trouble or no one at all. The system is at fault here, that I'll agree on, but in my opnion you both were using racial slang at one another. Joking or otherwise.

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#160 Phenom316
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Its not your fault.

There are ALOT of insensitive white people so i think its a fair rule though.

When my father came here from Africa, lots of little a-holes would call him a paki. Then fights would break out and etc. Lots of insensitive racism.

I think it would be stupid for you to get suspended, but its good they warn stuff like that (not in your case, but in other cases)

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#161 andyboiii
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[QUOTE="andyboiii"] he know's the punishment is unfair numbnut. He didn't say it WAS right to punish them but IF keyword is IF the school has that policy then both should have been sent to the principal. Reading comprehension FTW! xhellcatx
NO DONT! ITS A TRAP!! *covers her eyes*

it's so funny trying to see him debate though. He gets owned everytime :lol:

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#162 Vilot_Hero
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He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post's.

EDIT: Name one thread where I got this so called "owned"?

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#163 LJS9502_basic
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He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post'sVilot_Hero
My post was crystal clear. You didn't understand it. Notice everyone else here read the same post....and understood it. Seems the problem was not with my post.;)
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#164 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post'sLJS9502_basic
My post was crystal clear. You didn't understand it. Notice everyone else here read the same post....and understood it. Seems the problem was not with my post.;)

A few people can understand rushed post's, but not everyone dude.
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#165 AirGuitarist87
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I got called a racist by a mod, for poking fun at people who put holes in their penis.

You did nothing wrong, and even if you did your friend should have been in trouble too.

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#166 andyboiii
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post'sVilot_Hero
My post was crystal clear. You didn't understand it. Notice everyone else here read the same post....and understood it. Seems the problem was not with my post.;)

A few people can understand intelligent post's, but not me dude.

fixed

and it's ok you're forgiven:)

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#167 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post'sandyboiii

My post was crystal clear. You didn't understand it. Notice everyone else here read the same post....and understood it. Seems the problem was not with my post.;)

A few people can understand intelligent post's, but not me dude.

fixed

and it's ok you're forgiven:)

By doing that, do you think that will solve problems? A part of it shows how much maturity/immaturity a person has.
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#168 metallica_fan42
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Hmm, that's weird. First Nations or Native American is the correct term, but I don't see why Native isn't allowed.
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#169 AirGuitarist87
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Hmm, that's weird. First Nations or Native American is the correct term, but I don't see why Native isn't allowed. metallica_fan42

Apparently in England we can no longer call illegal immigrants "illegal immigrants", we have to call them "asylum seekers". There's really no difference, it's just some jobsworth somewhere making up words to give himself something to do.

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#170 ithilgore2006
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I think what he should do is have an actual native american come there so you can call him a "native", and see if he/she finds it offensive. If he/she doesn't (which they wouldn't), your teacher and principal are morons.
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#171 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post'sVilot_Hero
My post was crystal clear. You didn't understand it. Notice everyone else here read the same post....and understood it. Seems the problem was not with my post.;)

A few people can understand rushed post's, but not everyone dude.

My post wasn't rushed....and it was in clear English.:|
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#172 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]He never made it that clear. It's not my fault that LJ rushed most of his post'sLJS9502_basic
My post was crystal clear. You didn't understand it. Notice everyone else here read the same post....and understood it. Seems the problem was not with my post.;)

A few people can understand rushed post's, but not everyone dude.

My post wasn't rushed....and it was in clear English.:|

Sure dude;) As long as you think that the punishment was not fair, than we can all take a break from this great argument.
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#173 LJS9502_basic
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Sure dude;) As long as you think that the punishment was not fair, than we can all take a break from this great argument.Vilot_Hero
Which had nothing to do with my post to start with....;)
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#174 UnamedThing
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Someone has to do the garbage I guess.duxup

Exactly, he was just looking for an excuse.

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#175 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] Sure dude;) As long as you think that the punishment was not fair, than we can all take a break from this great argument.LJS9502_basic
Which had nothing to do with my post to start with....;)

*slams head on the table* Here is your own quote.

Until the population stands up and fixes these problems...ie political correctness....overreaction will always happen. To be fair you should have both gone to the prinicipal...or neither.

I could break this down like xhellcatx did, but you're a very intelligent person, and I respect that. So there's no need to break it down. I highlighted all the important information in pink. This was your first post, and I said the punishment was unfair. You stated that to be fair, they both should of gone to the principles office. But wait????What did they do? absolutely nothing. But you think different.

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#176 LJS9502_basic
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I could break this down like xhellcatx did, but you're a very intelligent person, and I respect that. So there's no need to break it down. I highlighted all the important information in pink. This was your first post, and I said the punishment was unfair. You stated that to be fair, they both should of gone to the principles office. But wait????What did they do? absolutely nothing. But you think different.

Vilot_Hero
Yes...now read it in context and figure out what it means.;)
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#177 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

I could break this down like xhellcatx did, but you're a very intelligent person, and I respect that. So there's no need to break it down. I highlighted all the important information in pink. This was your first post, and I said the punishment was unfair. You stated that to be fair, they both should of gone to the principles office. But wait????What did they do? absolutely nothing. But you think different.

LJS9502_basic
Yes...now read it in context and figure out what it means.;)

You still didn't answer my question:| And It means that you think both should be punished, when no one should of been.
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#178 LJS9502_basic
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You still didn't answer my question:| And It means that you think both should be punished, when no one should of been.Vilot_Hero
Actually I passed no judgment on whether punishment was warranted or not. READ IT AGAIN.
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#179 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You still didn't answer my question:| And It means that you think both should be punished, when no one should of been.LJS9502_basic
Actually I passed no judgment on whether punishment was warranted or not. READ IT AGAIN.

Read it dude! "you should have both gone to the prinicipal". That right there, states that you wanted both to be punished.
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Vilot_Hero
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_sentence Read. Learn.
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#181 AirGuitarist87
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So this thread has been 2 pages on topic and 7 pages on sentences?
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#183 andyboiii
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"] You still didn't answer my question:| And It means that you think both should be punished, when no one should of been.Vilot_Hero
Actually I passed no judgment on whether punishment was warranted or not. READ IT AGAIN.

Read it dude! "you should have both gone to the prinicipal". That right there, states that you wanted both to be punished.

According to the schools policy they both should have been punished to be fair, this does not mean he believes what they said was wrong. how do you not understand this already?

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#184 shoeman12
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i'm assuming by native you mean native canadian but that is just ridiculous. you might want to talk to a higher up in the district or something. if you can't say native, then natives shouldn't be able to say it either. just like no one should be able to get away with saying the n word, no matter what race they are.
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#185 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Jandurin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_sentence Read. Learn.

*sigh* Until the population stands up and fixes these problems...ie political correctness....overreaction will always happen. To be fair you should have both gone to the prinicipal...or neither.

He clearly said "both should of gone to the principle". The "or" in there doesn't mean anything. It has nothing to do in relation with the highlighted green. Or doesn't mean "and" in case you didn't know. I have no clue why he think it would be "fair" if they both got sent to the principles office, when clearly they shouldn't be there.

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#186 Vilot_Hero
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So this thread has been 2 pages on topic and 7 pages on sentences?AirGuitarist87
It's been about LJ not realizing that the kid getting sent to the principles office, was unnecessary.
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#187 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I have no clue why he think it would be "fair" if they both got sent to the principles office, when clearly they shouldn't be there.

Vilot_Hero
Being that it happened as it did, it was *unfair* to not send both. In reality, one was sent for a possibly incorrect reason. If the school had at least been fair in its theoretical unfairness, both would have received punishment.
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#188 andyboiii
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it's like we're talking to brick wall right now :lol:
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#189 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]

I have no clue why he think it would be "fair" if they both got sent to the principles office, when clearly they shouldn't be there.

Jandurin

Being that it happened as it did, it was *unfair* to not send both. In reality, one was sent for a possibly incorrect reason. If the school had at least been fair in its theoretical unfairness, both would have received punishment.

No one should of been punished though! "native" is hardly if at all offensive. LJ cant see that(Same for a few other people).

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#190 Cube_of_MooN
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I've never thought of "native" as an offensive word in any way before... :|

Nor have I heard anyone say it is offensive...

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#191 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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No one should of been punished though! "native" is hardly if at all offensive. LJ cant see that(Same for a few other people).

Vilot_Hero
You're the authority on what is and is not offensive?
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#192 LJS9502_basic
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To be fair you should have both gone to the prinicipal...or neither.Vilot_Hero

He clearly said "both should of gone to the principle". The "or" in there doesn't mean anything. It has nothing to do in relation with the highlighted green. Or doesn't mean "and" in case you didn't know. I have no clue why he think it would be "fair" if they both got sent to the principles office, when clearly they shouldn't be there.

I suggest reading the entire sentence dude. Seriously...this can't be helping your credibility.
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#193 Vilot_Hero
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Everyone here agree's that saying "native" isnt offensive.
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#194 ice_radon
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Wow. I dunno, I mean I can see the teacher kinda getting offened but I live up here in Wisconsin and its common place to call Native Americans, Natives or even Indians. I mean I am not sure too many people here use either of those words in wisconsin in a bad way...
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#195 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Everyone here agree's that saying "native" isnt offensive.Vilot_Hero
So, Gamespot Off Topic is the authority on what is and is not offensive?
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#196 hoola
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The government should have a poll for the Natives: Do you find the word "Native" offensive when others are describing you?

If it is yes then the schools should be able to decide whether it is okay or not and if it is no the schools should just do nothing and let it go.

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#197 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]Everyone here agree's that saying "native" isnt offensive.Jandurin
So, Gamespot Off Topic is the authority on what is and is not offensive?

Of course not, but when I was at my school I could say native without getting in trouble. Which leads me to believe that the teachers have a personal vendetta against the kid, or they're not that smart.
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Of course not, but when I was at my school I could say native without getting in trouble. Which leads me to beleive that the teachers have a personal vendetta against the kid, or they're not that smart.Vilot_Hero
So your school is the authority.
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#199 MetalGear_Ninty
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Everyone here agree's that saying "native" isnt offensive.Vilot_Hero

That's not the point.

Dude seriously, I really honestly think that LJ didn't make a comment on the fairness of the actual decision, but just commented that it would be wrong for just one person to go to the principle's office, and for the other person toremain unpunished.

That is all that was said.

You've just misunderstood, seriously, there is no problem.

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#200 Gallego
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You should make a T-Shirt that says "I'm with Native -->" and take it to school. Make sure you show it to the principal. That way you make a political statement yourself ^_^....but you will most likely get suspended so do it at your own risk...>_>