Amazon says 40k iz not diverse enough for da masses

amazon wants git space marines but only gets git kustodians from game workshops'

Blue haired streaks are try'n ta ruin warhamma for ‘da orks. Lazy fat greasy feminists are infiltrat'n dis beloved franchise.

dis means WAAAGH!

dis means WAAAGH!

i will scream about dis at da highest hill yer will lose dis WAAGH! yer squeaky basterds.

rip out yer guts an’ lay im on a platta for ‘da ork Boyz

we jus wanted a gud tv showz where orks go on big WAAAGH! battles

no female kustodians, yer have messed up really bad games workshop an' piised off da weird Boyz

ork Boyz will neva go woke only WAAAGH!

I’ve heard a lot about Warhammer going woke the last few days, I still haven’t heard the original statement that caused all this but yes it sounds like some people are trying to change the lore and universe to fit in their ideals. I’m still hopeful that the upcoming Warhammer series will be great and a good thing for the hobby but I wouldn’t be surprised if they mix in some lgbtq2s+lmnop to appease a bunch of people that aren’t even interested in the game or franchise.

@ratchetclank92: henry kavill might quit ‘da tv showz an’ it will die. dis 'umie respects da lore an' amazon only kares about diversity. Screwed by ‘da people 'oo made witcha tv showz an’ now screwed ova by amazon. 'e doesnt want ta be apart uv ru'n da franchise wit' amazon. 'e respects da fans uv warhamma. if 'e quits 'da showz will die

ork Boyz will now hoarde dia teef from amazon an' game workshop. no more teef for gamesworkshop, dey are up ta no gud wit' ‘da orks

‘da sistaz uv silence, ‘da sistaz uv WAAGH!, kallidus assassins, female mechanicus, female kommissars, female inquisitors, female imperial guard, an female saints. All include females, tree are 'clusively female..

an ya still force ‘da wun ‘dat messes up ‘da lore! ill feed dia guts ta 'da wild dogs

Cancel culture, but from the right. Oh no they are putting girls in my completely made up fictional universe that has constantly changing lore and retcons, lol.

If their hot muscle woman then whatever, **** Warhammer.

lol I'm not following this too closely but if people are looking to put "woke" ideals and progressive stances into WH40K, it's the wrong venue for it.

The whole grim-dark, ultra-extreme, fanatical, and regressive nature of the future in WH40K is almost self-parodying and one of its most appealing qualities...yes...qualities.

...anyway, point is, WH40K would quite literally be destroyed by inserting progressive policies. Oh, you're not a religious fundamentalist? DEAD! Not a human? DEAD! Have any mutations, independent thoughts, or a mind of your own? DEAD!

I say this as a filthy leftist socialist, too.

@sargentd said:

ork Boyz will now hoarde dia teef from amazon an' game workshop. no more teef for gamesworkshop, dey are up ta no gud wit' ‘da orks

Paint it green! Green is money color! Make it worth more teefs!

There could be something egregiously woke they added to the lore that I'm not aware of, but this particular female Custodes issue doesn't seem to be it. Sounds like purse clutching by the right to make a big deal about that. I read it and I was like, "lol that's it?".

Not surprising, these losers have mastered the art of playing the victim.

"The more I learn about these aliens, the more I come to understand what drives them, the more I hate them. I hate them for what they are and for what they may one day become. I hate them not because they hate us but because they are incapable of good, honest, human hatred."

-Inquisitor Agmar

"We is gonna stomp da universe flat and kill anyfink that fights back. We're da Orks, and we was made ta fight and win."

-Ghazghkull Thraka

"Contact with alien races always renews one's faith in humanity. It is my belief that foreign travel narrows the mind wonderfully."

-Helem Boesch

Like you would know. Lol.

GW explanation is there have always been female custodes. However, there never were. Making the ideological motivation evident. A disease infecting everything it comes in contact with.

Would be weird as **** to turn a theocratic fascist dystopia woke. The whole point of 40k is that it's a nightmare to be alive in.

Well, if it turns into Resetera then that's exactly what it will be.

@sargentd: as a person that barely speaks English, have no idea what op means.

Oh watched the video, in all honesty I don't care which Warhammer character is male or female.

I would dislike the change only if it was meant as an imposition of political ideas, as it has been the case many times.

But only as a matter of principle as I probably would not be watching this show anyway.

Writers clarifying that there are female members of a faction in a fictional universe, just never explicitly mentioned.

Truly the disease of our time.

As it pertains to the Amazon series, the only thing that will negatively effect this show is bad writing or plot. Look at The Boys for example, plenty of race and gender swapping but still remained "edgy" like the source material and still gets great reviews.

Didnt watch the video but I hope the 40k TV show Henry Cavill working on not get the same fate as The Witcher series. Too much studio interference and forced changes that hurts the series. Its a shame too as I enjoyed the first season but pretty much dropped it afterwards.

Should just add more screen time with the Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence factions instead of pretending that the Astartes are mixed gender, when they are explicitly emotionally stunted genetically modified asexual males.

@rmpumper: "when they are explicitly emotionally stunted genetically modified asexual males".

Uh oh, that's not going to work. TV show with this kind of budget will have love interests.

Do you fear females?

The Boys is genuinely one of the better, modern, and relevant satires and commentaries of our time. Never felt especially preachy but it really touched on the current social and political climate without apologizing for being honest about what the problems are. Poked some fun at woke agendas but also far-right.

Hope to see more like it. I could see WH40K doing as much, but it'd need to be subtle.

That's the function of the regular humans that the Space Marines are there to save/protect.

Right wingers would just assume that the show/movie is supporting their views, you know, just like what they thought about Starship Troopers (instead of mocking them) or how they did not understand that Homelander is the bad guy.

Exactly what I expected from one of the forums crazy leftist on his third alt account.

This is why IP's should be gatekeeped ruthlessly.

Wtf are you talking about? Starship troopers is nearly 30 tears old?

We understand Homelander is the bad guy it doesn't change the fact he's an awesome character and along with Butcher carries the show.

Not good, a pure ad-hominem post. Also, I'm center left.

This specific issue just isn't serious or political enough for an opposing position to be seen as "crazy" left. It's fluff side lore for an unreleased TV show from writers who always retcon this universe. No well adjusted adult would get upset at this, hell most will never even know it happened. Small lore changes don't break quality, it's when you completely alter the theme and/or atmosphere, and inject bad writing and/or acting.

Dunno, maybe I'm becoming too much of a "normie" for these small things to register remotely out of the "what kind of loser gives a crap about this bullshit?" category these days lol.

Right-Wing ‘The Boys’ Fans Grapple With Homelander Being A Villain, Confusing Everyone (forbes.com)

Yeah that was pretty great. Very clear with the shoe-thing they did to mock Trump where the show creators' intent lies haha.

The double-irony here is that the real big-bad isn't so much Homelander as it is capitalism, in this case Vought. Even the AOC analogue, the head-exploding lady, is a product of Vought. The politicians bought or bribed by Vought. Etc.

And that's sort of the question: do we really blame Trump? Or do we blame the system that allows people like Trump to prosper? Do we blame Homelander? Or do we blame Vought?

It was pretty clear up to a certain point that Vought would have cast aside Homelander if they needed to and put someone else there. Homelander comes and goes, Vought's evil stays.

Only problem is that it's just what Vought is telling Homelander, because the guy only cares about his fanboy numbers. The moment he (trump) understands that he does not need Vought (the Republican party) to retain his popularity with a certain demographic (MAGA), Vought is done for. What can they do to Homelander physically to stop him from destroying the organization?

Just like there is no Vought without Homelander at this point (not the other way round), there is not Republican party without trump. In both the fictional and IRL cases, the creation is now more powerful than the creators.

Oooooooooooh shit you're right, I totally missed that.

....scary.

Though the last thing Homelander did is a a literal "I could kill someone on main street and they'd all applaud me" iirc, so it's very true.

@mrbojangles25: You can blame both. Because one doesn't mean the other.

@robertos said:

@silentchief said:

@rmpumper said:

@mrbojangles25 said:

The Boys is genuinely one of the better, modern, and relevant satires and commentaries of our time. Never felt especially preachy but it really touched on the current social and political climate without apologizing for being honest about what the problems are. Poked some fun at woke agendas but also far-right.

Hope to see more like it. I could see WH40K doing as much, but it'd need to be subtle.

Right wingers would just assume that the show/movie is supporting their views, you know, just like what they thought about Starship Troopers (instead of mocking them) or how they did not understand that Homelander is the bad guy.

Wtf are you talking about?

Right-Wing ‘The Boys’ Fans Grapple With Homelander Being A Villain, Confusing Everyone (forbes.com)

Imagine linking Paul Tassi as a credible source 🤣🤣. The guy wrote a story about a subreddit! He's also a leftist shill.

There's nothing center about you.

You will constantly side with any group that race swaps/gender swaps etc... for the sole purpose of DEI. You will side with that position everytime regardless of how ridiculous the reasoning is.

Calling people losers when you have made at least 3 alt accounts with over 20 thousand post defending these actions is peak irony 🤣. Again you are a perfect example of why people should be gatekept out of hobbies they have no interest in.

It amazes me how far leftist go to fit everything in their worldview 🤣.

So an evil mega corp is a stand in for the Republican party? Yet ironically the modern Democrats are far more supportive of mega corps and in fact receive far more money from them. 🤷‍♂️

False, as someone strictly on the center-left I have not always sided with these swaps. But I do give them a chance, and just as long as it doesn't negatively effect the medium. Like in "The Boys" or the original Avengers.

For example, what kind of well adjusted adult would be upset at a black Nick Fury? That's deranged behavior.

@silentchief said:

@robertos said:

@silentchief said:

@rmpumper said:

@mrbojangles25 said:

The Boys is genuinely one of the better, modern, and relevant satires and commentaries of our time. Never felt especially preachy but it really touched on the current social and political climate without apologizing for being honest about what the problems are. Poked some fun at woke agendas but also far-right.

Hope to see more like it. I could see WH40K doing as much, but it'd need to be subtle.

Right wingers would just assume that the show/movie is supporting their views, you know, just like what they thought about Starship Troopers (instead of mocking them) or how they did not understand that Homelander is the bad guy.

Wtf are you talking about?

Right-Wing ‘The Boys’ Fans Grapple With Homelander Being A Villain, Confusing Everyone (forbes.com)

Imagine linking Paul Tassi as a credible source 🤣🤣.

I used the first link that provided photo evidence. Was it AI generated?

I believe I also mentioned AOC as well; an evil megacorp is a stand in for the evils of capitalism; the AOC-like woman (the head exploder) and Homelander represent both parties (as do some other politicians sprinkled throughout the show), both equally corrupted by money, influence, and blackmail (via personal baggage, skeletons in closet, etc).

Funny how you ignored my reference to the AOC analogue...almost like you're trying to fit everything into your worldview 🤣

Also pretty sure Biden is the first president to stand with union members in a picket line, so...

I dont know uv homlanda or any 'umie kalled nick fury. ‘da kustodiez are known as a brotherhood ‘n wh40k. Wh40k been around for 40 years an’ we have neva heard uv a git kustodie. It didnt 'ist untill da amazon started mak'n da tv showz.. now games workshop gaslights 'da ork Boyz an' says yes 'der are git kustodiez. Where gamesworkshop?? ive neva heard or seen dis. Iz dis 'cos da amazon wants it 'n da new tv showz?? are ya try'n ta mess wit' wh40k like ya did lord uv da rings?? rings uv powa was not a gud tv showz an' now ya ****'n up da lore for wh40k. **** yer amazon an’ da blue haired streaks. Yer try'n ta appeal ta people 'oo dont even like 40k. Classic way ta piss off yer already niche fanbase gamesworkshop. No more teef for gamesworkshop. 'da weird boyz will 3d print all yer overpriced minitures. And henry now isnt going to want to work on the show, because his favorite faction was the kustodiez and the amazon wants to **** it up, like they fucked up lord of the rings. Amazon iz a destroya uv all fings loved.

The Rings of Power wasn't bad due to focusing on Galadriel or there being a black people in it. It was bad because the script was piss poor. It was boring, and fell flat.

Again, The Boys did more race and gender swapping than any other Amazon show or hell even MCU, but still does very well by the critics and audience. X-Men 97' is killing it and the entire premise is directly "woke", reflecting civil rights and equality. But no one cares because the script, va, and animation are great. Fallout was bashed by subhuman youtubers due to female and black main characters (and trans side char), but then it came out and they love it.

The stuff you are worrying about just isn't a determining factor in quality. In reality it usually boils down to script, editing, and acting. Time to take off the hyper political shades.

That's just it though. I don't need entertainment to fit my worldview. I just want it to be entertaining. Allegory's should be done in a way that anyone can enjoy the content regardless of what side of the isle they are on.

Biden has received more money from Megacorps than Trump... gee I wonder why?

@robertos said:

@silentchief said:

@robertos said:

@silentchief said:

@rmpumper said:

Right wingers would just assume that the show/movie is supporting their views, you know, just like what they thought about Starship Troopers (instead of mocking them) or how they did not understand that Homelander is the bad guy.

Wtf are you talking about?

Right-Wing ‘The Boys’ Fans Grapple With Homelander Being A Villain, Confusing Everyone (forbes.com)

Imagine linking Paul Tassi as a credible source 🤣🤣.

I used the first link that provided photo evidence. Was it AI generated?

Your first link is from "Forbes" Paul Tassi who is a leftist shill who made a story about a subreddit.

Your posting history proves otherwise.

You all will come up with any excuse to justify it. " The Witcher" was a perfect example. Red head " Triss Merigold" meh let's just make her black and let's race swap everyone but Geralt why were at it. Who gives a shit if it was written by the Polish " ItS jUsT fIcTioNaL". It's for a modern audience! 🤣 last season flopped so hard they announced the next will be the last. All these creatively bankrupt losers can do is run multibillion dollar IP's right into the ground.

Say'n 'der kan be git kustodians iz like say'n 'der kan be ork kustodians. It breaks da lore.

umiez 'dat want ta interject dia personal identity bullshit into a story dey neva gave a **** about.

da fans will reject it, an' nobody dat was not interested in da' 40k before will be interested now

Unless the images and posts were AI generated, it proves rpumper was correct.

But black Triss was also in the only highly received seasons (S1), and she looked even more black in that season lol......

Pretty sure the quality drop each season is just due to bad writing. Most critic reviews confirm this, it had nothing to do with race or gender.

My posts are center-left.

Fair enough, but "art imitates life" as they say, so I don't think it is really uncalled for entertainment (art) to take a stance. Unless you're a delicate snowflake that is easily upset and needs a safe space 😋

As for Biden, it's probably because he is a good bet; Trump can only get money from Russians. Corporations or foreign agents? You pick.

Most right wingers don't see Homelander as a hero. Making a story about a few people posting in a sub reddit doesn't change that.

Black triss was barely in the first season. By the last season they race swapped half the cast and it was later announced the show would be non renewed after only one more season. Leftist love diverse mid evil fantasy. Or maybe they don't since every show that panders to them fails shortly after.

Wh40k duz not need ta be a reflection uv our real world. It iz sci fi fanasty set 'n a world noth'n like ‘da real wun. It ‘as goblins an demons an space WAAGH! tanks. We don't need ta poke fun uv ‘da left or ‘da right, we don't need social kommentary on "real world" situations" wh40k should only represent it's own univers, not ourz

we jus want ta spread our spore an kill everyth'n ‘n sight! it's wot we are made ta do, it's a gud fun time