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#1 Neoyamaneko
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It's a problem.

The surgeon general says it's a problem. People from other countries say its a problem. Trends, history, and statistics have shown it is a problem. But obese people in the States, by and large, don't want to accept it and try many strategies to get out of changing their lifestyle.

- Blaming genetics. Even though this "gene" just magically appeared in the last generation and is confined to the U.S.

- Turning a negative into a positive or euphemising the condition to make it sound less serious. "I'm not fat! I'm just 'big boned'" or "I'm not an overweight woman! I'm a BBW!". Guess what, "Miss BBW", changing the name won't decrease your chances of getting your first heart attack before you're 45. Being 6'1" 280lbs with 44% body fat is not "big boned".

- Blaming society for their condition. Some grossly overweight people blame the fast food society and the relative ease to obtain food on the reason they are too heavy. There have even been cases of people suing McDonalds for selling them the food that made them obese. They didn't stick the food in your mouth and shifting blame doesn't make your problem go away.

I hope someone with authority and experience takes initiative on the problem and stops dainty-stepping around the subject. The ozone hole didn't get fixed because someone in a position of authority said, "Well, there's a small tear in the atmosphere over the South Pole. If you can just ease up off the aerosol cans a bit, maybe it can help, but you don't have to if you don't want to.". No...the American public and businesses were slapped in the face with our current lifestyle being a problem and it has to change. Same with obesity. If no one says, "If you don't stop, you won't live to see retirement." and turn a deaf ear to the excuses, lifestyles won't change in this segment of society.

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#2 harashawn
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Too much McDonald's, eh TC?
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#3 Raged_Soulja
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Did you know: 1 out of every three American children are fat? That's 33.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333%:shock:
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#4 the_one34
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I like what my grandfather says:

They didn't find any fat people at Auschwitz...

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#5 Neoyamaneko
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Too much McDonald's, eh TC?harashawn

6'2" 175lbs. I'm comfortable where I am.

I eat McDonalds something like once a month, and that's when I've skipped lunch and need something to eat on the way home from work.

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#6 harashawn
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[QUOTE="harashawn"]Too much McDonald's, eh TC?Neoyamaneko

6'2" 175lbs. I'm comfortable where I am.

I eat McDonalds something like once a month, and that's when I've skipped lunch and need something to eat on the way home from work.

I didn't mean you eat too much McDonald's.

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#7 Mercury88
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it's not confined to the US, us Brits are getting fat too...
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#8 ricktrang
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Its easier to eat fast food than to make something healthy, u cant beat dollar hamburgers
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#9 leejohnson7
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I hear it's pretty bad, but I never witnessed it. It's just a stereotype I hear on XBL, but being British it's not like I would know unless I went there. I heard that portions and clothing sizes are a little bloated compared to over here though.
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#10 Neoyamaneko
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Its easier to eat fast food than to make something healthy, u cant beat dollar hamburgersricktrang

It's that hard to pass up McDonalds for Subway? Just don't put any fattening sauces on it and you'll do fine.

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#11 markop2003
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Big bones dosn't make rings of fat, i'ld say that someone that is morbidly obese can be if they want to be though it ges down on their reumes and such and employers are allowed to discriminate against them if it's thier own fault. We should bring bak some of the bullying too, i know it may be mean but simply saying it's ok is wrong and if they're fat they're fat and should get thier act togehter.
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Its easier to eat fast food than to make something healthy, u cant beat dollar hamburgersricktrang

Though thought makes me quiver. Fast food has gone downhill over the last 20 years.

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Americans have all this fat, and their body can use the fat to make them hot during cold weather, to give them energy when they need it, and to wake up easily. Only problem is that people are too LAZY to do anything. If I'm cold, I just do 10 push ups.

During commercial breaks, do a set of 20. If they're too lazy, just go out and sit in the sun so your body burns the fat and sweats while you're outside, but now it's too late with winter.

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#15 markop2003
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I hear it's pretty bad, but I never witnessed it. It's just a stereotype I hear on XBL, but being British it's not like I would know unless I went there. I heard that portions and clothing sizes are a little bloated compared to over here though.leejohnson7

simply go to an american clothing store, they use the same clothes, the american size system for women is bigger there too all the numbers are 2 higher than uk sizes

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#16 harashawn
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Why does it matter so much to you? Did an obese person accidentally sit on you recently or something?elblanquito_81

It's not healthy to weigh too much.

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Why does it matter so much to you? Did an obese person accidentally sit on you recently or something?elblanquito_81

Thanks for positively contributing to the thread. :roll:

Ignoring a societal problem because it doesn't affect you is irresponsible. The Civil Rights movement would have crashed and burned on your watch.

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Americans have all this fat, and their body can use the fat to make them hot during cold weather, to give them energy when they need it, and to wake up easily. Only problem is that people are too LAZY to do anything. If I'm cold, I just do 10 push ups.

During commercial breaks, do a set of 20. If they're too lazy, just go out and sit in the sun so your body burns the fat and sweats while you're outside, but now it's too late with winter.

RyuHayabusaX

Trouble is, you don't need to be obese to keep warm, dude. Teh solushun: CLOTHES!

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What can we do?
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I do blame it on mostly genetics, but its ultimately the consumers fault. IF they know the problem then and they don't have to eat that type of food, then they shouldn't eat it.

I on the other hand for whatever reason CANNOT gain a single pound no matter what I eat or how much I eat, and still lose weight in the process. Its not metabolism (because if it was then I would have been a toothpic a long time ago), but its most likely a hyper active thyroid. I'm not sure if its a problem, but losing about 10 pounds in less than one month after eating normally sounds like a problem to me considering I am now underweight for my hieght.

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#21 markop2003
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What can we do?vidplayer8

put thin doors on mcdonalds that only normal people can just get through

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#22 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]I hear it's pretty bad, but I never witnessed it. It's just a stereotype I hear on XBL, but being British it's not like I would know unless I went there. I heard that portions and clothing sizes are a little bloated compared to over here though.markop2003

simply go to an american clothing store, they use the same clothes, the american size system for women is bigger there too all the numbers are 2 higher than uk sizes

That would be a good way of tackling it:

Fat guy: "there is nothing in the store that fits me"

Clerk: "try the tent section over in mountaineering"

They should bully them and stop stocking huge sizes, that would surely throw a message.

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[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]Why does it matter so much to you? Did an obese person accidentally sit on you recently or something?Neoyamaneko

Thanks for positively contributing to the thread. :roll:

Ignoring a societal problem because it doesn't affect you is irresponsible. The Civil Rights movement would have crashed and burned on your watch.

Your welcome.

Being obese and being denied civil rights are two very different things. It may be unhealthy for them to weigh as much as they do, but unless they go out and decide for themselves to make a change then there's not much else that can be done besides trying to educate others on the issue (which is already being done). You can't just take them and force them to get a gastric bypass or force them to start eating healthy and exercising. It's a lifetsyle choice only they can make.

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#24 markop2003
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I do blame it on mostly genetics, but its ultimately the consumers fault. IF they know the problem then and they don't have to eat that type of food, then they shouldn't eat it.

I on the other hand for whatever reason CANNOT gain a single pound no matter what I eat or how much I eat, and still lose weight in the process. Its not metabolism (because if it was then I would have been a toothpic a long time ago), but its most likely a hyper active thyroid. I'm not sure if its a problem, but losing about 10 pounds in less than one month after eating normally sounds like a problem to me considering I am now underweight for my hieght.

Cedmln

Solution: eat more, get a four slot toaster and have four pieces when you normally have 2, problem solved

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#25 Treflis
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I like what my grandfather says:

They didn't find any fat people at Auschwitz...

the_one34

As horrible as it is, it made me laugh.

But yeah, it's okay to eat junk food as long as it's not often and in moderate proportions.

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#27 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

I do blame it on mostly genetics, but its ultimately the consumers fault. IF they know the problem then and they don't have to eat that type of food, then they shouldn't eat it.

I on the other hand for whatever reason CANNOT gain a single pound no matter what I eat or how much I eat, and still lose weight in the process. Its not metabolism (because if it was then I would have been a toothpic a long time ago), but its most likely a hyper active thyroid. I'm not sure if its a problem, but losing about 10 pounds in less than one month after eating normally sounds like a problem to me considering I am now underweight for my hieght.

markop2003

Solution: eat more, get a four slot toaster and have four pieces when you normally have 2, problem solved

A poor diet could worsen that issue though. What if he gets diabetes?

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#28 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Neoyamaneko"]

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]Why does it matter so much to you? Did an obese person accidentally sit on you recently or something?elblanquito_81

Thanks for positively contributing to the thread. :roll:

Ignoring a societal problem because it doesn't affect you is irresponsible. The Civil Rights movement would have crashed and burned on your watch.

Your welcome.

Being obese and being denied civil rights are two very different things. It may be unhealthy for them to weigh as much as they do, but unless they go out and decide for themselves to make a change then there's not much else that can be done besides trying to educate others on the issue (which is already being done). You can't just take them and force them to get a gastric bypass or force them to start eating healthy and exercising. It's a lifetsyle choice only they can make.

it's simple what you do, stop accomodating them so much, if they can't get in a lift don't help them just put a sign on the entrance saying the width like a low bridge, make sure they have to pay for both seats if they take up the space or if they're anoying other passengers on a plane with their flab have them moved off the flight, don't acomadate extra large seats for them in cinemas or anything, just passive presure

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cant say that im concerned.....im naturally skinny.....fast metabolism ftw
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#30 markop2003
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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

I do blame it on mostly genetics, but its ultimately the consumers fault. IF they know the problem then and they don't have to eat that type of food, then they shouldn't eat it.

I on the other hand for whatever reason CANNOT gain a single pound no matter what I eat or how much I eat, and still lose weight in the process. Its not metabolism (because if it was then I would have been a toothpic a long time ago), but its most likely a hyper active thyroid. I'm not sure if its a problem, but losing about 10 pounds in less than one month after eating normally sounds like a problem to me considering I am now underweight for my hieght.

leejohnson7

Solution: eat more, get a four slot toaster and have four pieces when you normally have 2, problem solved

A poor diet could worsen that issue though. What if he gets diabetes?

...toast dosn't cause diabetes,... talked about this with my biology teacher today actually, most people are diabetic because their own immune system attacks their insulin making cells, having too much sugar is the diet that'll be the problem carbs should be fineas they're slower to digest and should just get turned into fat

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#31 efrucht
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I am eating a Whopper burger right now. I love fast food at times, especially burger king, who's burgers are, in my opinion, extremely delicious. Unfortunately, I just cant gain weight, even though I want to (weight training course). I have been eating the worst foods on this planet all week, and I actually LOST weight.

Anyway, obesity in America is a dying trend, literally. Ic ant imagine morbidly obese people getting very far, as they will be racked by health conditions and physical limitations that skinnier people might not have to deal with..

That's just my thoughts on the matter...

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#32 markop2003
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cant say that im concerned.....im naturally skinny.....fast metabolism ftwDante2710

damn you!!!

i have a friend with a fast metabolism, he ate $10 of chocolate a week and never gained a pound :(

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#34 elblanquito_81
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it's simple what you do, stop accomodating them so much, if they can't get in a lift don't help them just put a sign on the entrance saying the width like a low bridge, make sure they have to pay for both seats if they take up the space or if they're anoying other passengers on a plane with their flab have them moved off the flight, don't acomadate extra large seats for them in cinemas or anything, just passive presure

markop2003
Meh, we could do that, but seeing how people are quick to sue over anything these days it won't be long before the ACLU gets involved and files lawsuits saying they're being discriminated against. Though, now that you mention it, wasn't there a proposal to do just that? Having them pay for two seats I mean. I could be wrong, but I swear I've heard that mentioned before.
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]cant say that im concerned.....im naturally skinny.....fast metabolism ftwmarkop2003

damn you!!!

i have a friend with a fast metabolism, he ate $10 of chocolate a week and never gained a pound :(

lol, i eat alot of junk food, but i dont gain weight, i love my genes
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#36 markop2003
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Anyway, obesity in America is a dying trend, literally. Ic ant imagine morbidly obese people getting very far, as they will be racked by health conditions and physical limitations that skinnier people might not have to deal with..

efrucht

they say the same about the elderly but the population just keeps getting older

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It's not like I have room to speak; my ex-tutor pointed out that I have man-boobs to a bunch of guys and my current tutor (at the time) in my class. In my case it's poor muscle tone though, I am confident I could still give an arse kicking in a fight and can do 30 press-ups but still, if a tutor says it to you, you know it needs to change.

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#38 Treflis
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We should kill all obese people. They just suck up welfare and food, contributing nothing to society. Guiltfeeder566
Well aren't you a charmer?

They do pay Taxes.

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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

I do blame it on mostly genetics, but its ultimately the consumers fault. IF they know the problem then and they don't have to eat that type of food, then they shouldn't eat it.

I on the other hand for whatever reason CANNOT gain a single pound no matter what I eat or how much I eat, and still lose weight in the process. Its not metabolism (because if it was then I would have been a toothpic a long time ago), but its most likely a hyper active thyroid. I'm not sure if its a problem, but losing about 10 pounds in less than one month after eating normally sounds like a problem to me considering I am now underweight for my hieght.

markop2003

Solution: eat more, get a four slot toaster and have four pieces when you normally have 2, problem solved

A poor diet could worsen that issue though. What if he gets diabetes?

...toast dosn't cause diabetes,... talked about this with my biology teacher today actually, most people are diabetic because their own immune system attacks their insulin making cells, having too much sugar is the diet that'll be the problem carbs should be fineas they're slower to digest and should just get turned into fat

Toast with marmalade.

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#40 SIapshot
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obesity in minority populations.

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#41 Cedmln
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

I do blame it on mostly genetics, but its ultimately the consumers fault. IF they know the problem then and they don't have to eat that type of food, then they shouldn't eat it.

I on the other hand for whatever reason CANNOT gain a single pound no matter what I eat or how much I eat, and still lose weight in the process. Its not metabolism (because if it was then I would have been a toothpic a long time ago), but its most likely a hyper active thyroid. I'm not sure if its a problem, but losing about 10 pounds in less than one month after eating normally sounds like a problem to me considering I am now underweight for my hieght.

markop2003

Solution: eat more, get a four slot toaster and have four pieces when you normally have 2, problem solved

You didn't read what I typed properly. I said I cannot gain weight now matter how much I eat or what I eat. I could eat all day and not gain a single pound. And eating too much unhealthy food can still hurt you wether you gain weight or not. I'm can eat a lot, but I am not a pig. lol

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#42 markop2003
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It's not like I have room to speak; my ex-tutor pointed out that I have man-boobs to a bunch of guys and my current tutor (at the time) in my class. In my case it's poor muscle tone though, I am confident I could still give an arse kicking in a fight and can do 30 press-ups but still, if a tutor says it to you, you know it needs to change.

leejohnson7

1. buy wireless keyboard

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3 ?????

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The majority of people just need to work out and gain some self control over how they eat
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#44 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

It's not like I have room to speak; my ex-tutor pointed out that I have man-boobs to a bunch of guys and my current tutor (at the time) in my class. In my case it's poor muscle tone though, I am confident I could still give an arse kicking in a fight and can do 30 press-ups but still, if a tutor says it to you, you know it needs to change.

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lol

1. and 2. I understand but what is profitable?

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[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]Why does it matter so much to you? Did an obese person accidentally sit on you recently or something?Neoyamaneko

Thanks for positively contributing to the thread. :roll:

Ignoring a societal problem because it doesn't affect you is irresponsible. The Civil Rights movement would have crashed and burned on your watch.

man, we need to get you some "down with the fattykins" shirts and flags so you can go around and annoy even MORE people than you are already! Don't pull a Sarah Palin on us and tell us that God spoke to you and told you to raise awareness of fat people. we are plenty aware. hell, you can't miss em. just calm down dude.
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It's disgraceful that a person would let themselves get obese. Why? It's quite an (horrific) achievement, if you think about it.

I'd be ashamed.

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#47 leejohnson7
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It's disgraceful that a person would let themselves get obese. Why? It's quite an (horrific) achievement, if you think about it.

I'd be ashamed.

mentalabc123

If it were so, I would reassure you that you should be.

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#48 ronniepage588
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we have enough world class athletes to make up for them. olympics, nba, nhl, mlb, and of course NFL, college etc etc etc. its bad but, atleast we still won the most medals in the olympics
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#49 Enosh88
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we have enough world class athletes to make up for them. olympics, nba, nhl, mlb, and of course NFL, college etc etc etc. its bad but, atleast we still won the most medals in the olympicsronniepage588

that probably the most stupid argument I have heard in a long time

"hey we have a lot of rich people, why fix the economic problems?"

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#50 efrucht
Member since 2008 • 1596 Posts

obesity in minority populations.

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Thanks alot, I was having a great day until I saw this....