Americans: when you think of terrorists, do you automatically think of Arabs?

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#101 Frame_Dragger
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I'm still waiting for someone to say, "Paciifc Islanders... then Inuits... then trout. These keep me up at night!" :P

Seriously though... Eskimos riding polar bears... it's coming.

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#102 SF_KiLLaMaN
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It is definitely the first thing that pops into my head, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe that Arabs are the only terrorists. Technically by definition the U.S. troops are terrorists as they cause fear and terror in people. People seem to have morphed the word to mean something it doesn't. A terrorist is just someone or something that instills terror or fear in people.

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#103 theone86
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Nope, I think of Columbus, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, and others like them.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Honestly? I don't think that way so ever.. When I hear terrorist I just think of some extremist jackass that really can fit in any racial group or religion most times.DroidPhysX
Relax. This is the internet.

All he did was answer the question and I agree with him.

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#105 Frame_Dragger
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Nope, I think of Columbus, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, and others like them.

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Hernan Cortez... Small-unit tactics in a MASSIVELY asymmetric engagement involving the use of unconventional means such as biological warfare. I'm not sure about Columbus... George Washington was just a general of an asymmetric war, same with Jackson. Nixon, Reagan, and Kissinger also don't really fit, although they did many loathsome things. A major element of terrorism is that it's the tool of small groups engaging in asymmetric conflict, in which they are the smaller group by far. If we reject that, then all we really accomplish is to engage in a semantic debate which has no useful end.
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#106 coasterguy65
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When I think of terrorists I don't think of Arabs, but instead I think of followers of Islam. Which breeds terrorism in many countries and regions of the world, many non Arab.

Of course that's not to say that I automatically assume someone who follows Islam is a terrorist, but the vast majority of modern terrorism is carried out under Islam's banner. It's also not meant to imply that all terrorist follow Islam either...it's just the first thing that comes to mind.

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#107 andrewrosati
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As an American myself: No.

Do I think other Americans probably do? Yeah

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#108 tenaka2
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Its kinda weird 30 years ago the irish we though of as terrorists.

However a lot of americans supported the IRA, its strange how opinions change. (Im irish btw so I remember ragan supporting the IRA)

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#109 Monkey_N1nga
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[QUOTE="UniverseIX"]

Terrorist

I think they look something like this. and this

Neo-ganon

so respectuful! i like it

-sarcasm-

In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you

its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace

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#110 kussese
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Yes, the first image that comes to mind is an Arab. I know it's wrong for me to think like that, but it just happens :?

On the other hand, thinking of Islam doesn't bring terrorism to mind.

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#111 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its kinda weird 30 years ago the irish we though of as terrorists.

However a lot of americans supported the IRA, its strange how opinions change. (Im irish btw so I remember ragan supporting the IRA)

It's good to see some other folks rememberign that. It's probably a good lesson, because look at how much has changed. Yeah, there are a few pathetic "hold outs", but essentially that's done. Times change, and it's another good reason for people to study history for perspective.
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#112 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="kussese"]

Yes, the first image that comes to mind is an Arab. I know it's wrong for me to think like that, but it just happens :?

On the other hand, thinking of Islam doesn't bring terrorism to mind.

Whenever I hear "Islam", I think of dates (the food). I love dates...
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#113 stanleycup98
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Yes, I do. I actually picture the Taliban soldier model from Medal of Honor, to be specific, and I have no shame in admitting this. I'm not ignorant in any way, but I grew up in the US during the 2000's and so obviously my memories influence me to think of Muslims. When I lived in England, I would think of the IRA, but I'm not really concerned about them in the US.
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#114 phillo99
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Yes, because most of the reported terrorist attacks are committed by Islamic extremists from predominantly Arab nations.

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#115 DroidPhysX
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Yes, because most of the reported terrorist attacks are committed by Islamic extremists from predominantly Arab nations.

phillo99
Really? Are you sure they're not just thieving white men from Europe and America?
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#116 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Anyone one who says they dont is a liar.MushroomWig
How so? Ever heard of the IRA? Or any other non-arabic terrorist group?

Are you no longer a BNP supporter?
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#117 lensflare15
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Not really, I just think of someone blowing people and buildings, committing acts of terror...

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#118 Frame_Dragger
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Hmmm... I wonder if people remember 'The Red Brigade', and that whole branch of craziness. The sad reality is thatwhat people think of is probably based on which gruop of ******** hurt the people closest to them, and when. It can be pretty much any race or ethnicity AFAIK. People... we're weird animals.

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#119 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

[QUOTE="UniverseIX"]

Terrorist

I think they look something like this. and this

Monkey_N1nga

so respectuful! i like it

-sarcasm-

In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you

its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace

I call BS

I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.

Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)

know the difference

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#120 Easports48
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NO. I just think of Terrorists.
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#121 KC_Hokie
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The majority of terrorists in the world that want to kill Americans are Muslims. So yea.
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#122 Videodogg
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Yes. The very first image that pops in my head when i hear the word "terrorist" is Arabs or someone from that region. And in most cases it is true.

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#123 TChaivong
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Yes, no hard feelings. I guess the media embed it in my head since their always portraying them as arabs

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#124 Gamingclone
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No. That is all.

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#125 Oscar-Wilde
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Yes, yes I do, islamist extremists to be exact, though I don't particularly think of terrorist when I think of Arabs, for some reason fezes and turbans come to mind when I think of Arabs even though the fez is more of an ottoman empire thing.

It wasn't always like this though before the 9/11 tragedy. I used to think of terrorists as Die Hard's bad guys, as in predominately European mercenaries/ex-soldiers working together with a super villain type of guy for a cause, to me this says a lot about the influence of pop culture and the media can have on a person.

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#126 Monkey_N1nga
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[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"]

[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

so respectuful! i like it

-sarcasm-

In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you

Neo-ganon

its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace

I call BS

I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.

Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)

know the difference

In many countries, people hate americans for many reasons, eg. barging into one's country, killing someone and leaving (Pakistan and Osama)or the stupid chopper clip of soldiers laughing at killing innocent civilians (its on youtube). What makes you think you are right. I might not but others have a different mind set than you and think differently. Many people were angry when osama died for some reason, so why not?

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#127 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"]

[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"] its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace

I call BS

I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.

Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)

know the difference

In many countries, people hate americans for many reasons, eg. barging into one's country, killing someone and leaving (Pakistan and Osama)or the stupid chopper clip of soldiers laughing at killing innocent civilians (its on youtube). What makes you think you are right. I might not but others have a different mind set than you and think differently. Many people were angry when osama died for some reason, so why not?

Terrorism is all about the intent to leverage a relatively small action into a sense of fear in the general populace. That any military action in your backyard may piss you off or scare you, doesn't make it terrorist if the goal is not terrorstic. For example, Pearl Harbor... not a terrorist act, but an act of war. Killing bin Laden wasn't about scaring Pakistanis, but killing the guy. Terrorist action would have been leveling a few blocks around his building to send a message. That's why not.
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#128 shadowkiller11
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When I hear Terrorist I think of anyone who is foreign attacking another nation's soil... Take that dirt.
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#129 Kcube
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I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.

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#130 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Kcube"]

I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.

Hate will die when all people have died.
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#131 Dystopian-X
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"]

I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.

Hate will die when all people have died.

So in order to rid the world from hate, we just have to kill em all! Go get em kcube.
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#132 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"]

I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.

Hate will die when all people have died.

So in order to rid the world from hate, we just have to kill em all! Go get em kcube.

You've got it! That... or you know... deal with human nature and roll with the punches. Nah... you know what, time for RAGNAROK!!! :P
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#133 WiiMan21
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Back when terrorists first became a "national threat" and the war in Iraq and just begun, yes. But now not so much.

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#134 evilrobot1991
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terrorists are 99 percent muslims
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#135 blaze_adeel
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when someone says terrorist the first thing that comes to mind is muslim.a muslimthat is wearing a cap ,has a beard and keeps his pants above his ankles (although thatfits the description of an arab) .

and why is this ?? well imo the media has successfully potrayed muslims as terrorist .they have taken the black sheeps of the muslim community and have potrayed them as they represent majority of the muslims .they have also attached another word with the muslims that is Jihad and again have potrayed muslims as "hungry for blood" type of people .

and just to be clear Jihad means to struggle .if i am studying hard to pass my exams i am doing Jihad.....

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#136 Dawq902
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I think all Americans think of Arabs whether they admit it or not. It will always be in our minds. How could it not be?

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#137 one_plum
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I think of those funny models from Counter Strike 1.6.

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#138 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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When I hear about terrorists I don't SPECIFICALLY think of Arabs, I think mainly of those of Middle Eastern descent, but obviously only in certain contexts.

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#139 CaveJohnson1
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Yeah, but the majority are, so I feel less bad about my personal bigotry.

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#140 poptart
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The word has taken on a far stronger meaning these days - pre 9/11 arguments could be made sympathising the roots of the plight of various terrorist factions, these days there is none - to be branded a terrorist is forever to carry an albatros around the neck. I actually interviewed a convicted terrorist for a job a while back who'd just come out of a high security prison for 4 years. He cut a pretty sad figure and having been the subject of much media coverage around the globe, the person depicted at the time of the trial shared little resembalence to the humble, somewhat shy person I met. What I took away from that is the imagery that the term evokes is quite seperate from the reality. Sure there are individuals fit the media depicted stereotype perfectly, but these days there is a fear of the word itself.

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#141 Monkey_N1nga
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terrorists are 99 percent muslimsevilrobot1991
You are 99 percent...uhh WRONG!
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#142 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I would like to know what is considered a terrorist.. Because the United States and really any country out there has supported terrorist groups that they called "freedom fighters".

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#143 Kcube
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"]

I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.

Dystopian-X

Hate will die when all people have died.

So in order to rid the world from hate, we just have to kill em all! Go get em kcube.

I could do that.Killing everyone sounds fun.

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[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"]

[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

so respectuful! i like it

-sarcasm-

In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you

Neo-ganon

its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace

I call BS

I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.

Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)

know the difference

Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBH
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"] its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace

Nayef_shroof

I call BS

I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.

Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)

know the difference

Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBH

Did the US military specifically target civilians?

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#146 TehFuneral
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Terrorism = Middle East + suspicious looking people with turbans

Arabs = Oil

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[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

I call BS

I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.

Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)

know the difference

DroidPhysX

Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBH

Did the US military was specifically target civilians?

They obviously disregard the safety of civillians since thats an insane statistic

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#148 THE_DRUGGIE
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When I hear about terrorists I don't SPECIFICALLY think of Arabs, I think mainly of those of Middle Eastern descent, but obviously only in certain contexts.

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So when you think of terrorists, you think of anyone from the Middle East?

Just need clarification because your statement confused me a little, sorry.

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#149 TehFuneral
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I would like to know what is considered a terrorist.. Because the United States and really any country out there has supported terrorist groups that they called "freedom fighters".

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There is basically no real definition.

One side's terrorists are the other sides heroes ... and vice versa.

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#150 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBHNayef_shroof

Did the US military was specifically target civilians?

They obviously disregard the safety of civillians since thats an insane statistic

So is that a yes or no?