I'm still waiting for someone to say, "Paciifc Islanders... then Inuits... then trout. These keep me up at night!" :P
Seriously though... Eskimos riding polar bears... it's coming.
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I'm still waiting for someone to say, "Paciifc Islanders... then Inuits... then trout. These keep me up at night!" :P
Seriously though... Eskimos riding polar bears... it's coming.
It is definitely the first thing that pops into my head, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe that Arabs are the only terrorists. Technically by definition the U.S. troops are terrorists as they cause fear and terror in people. People seem to have morphed the word to mean something it doesn't. A terrorist is just someone or something that instills terror or fear in people.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Honestly? I don't think that way so ever.. When I hear terrorist I just think of some extremist jackass that really can fit in any racial group or religion most times.DroidPhysXRelax. This is the internet.
All he did was answer the question and I agree with him.
Hernan Cortez... Small-unit tactics in a MASSIVELY asymmetric engagement involving the use of unconventional means such as biological warfare. I'm not sure about Columbus... George Washington was just a general of an asymmetric war, same with Jackson. Nixon, Reagan, and Kissinger also don't really fit, although they did many loathsome things. A major element of terrorism is that it's the tool of small groups engaging in asymmetric conflict, in which they are the smaller group by far. If we reject that, then all we really accomplish is to engage in a semantic debate which has no useful end.Nope, I think of Columbus, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, and others like them.
theone86
When I think of terrorists I don't think of Arabs, but instead I think of followers of Islam. Which breeds terrorism in many countries and regions of the world, many non Arab.
Of course that's not to say that I automatically assume someone who follows Islam is a terrorist, but the vast majority of modern terrorism is carried out under Islam's banner. It's also not meant to imply that all terrorist follow Islam either...it's just the first thing that comes to mind.
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"]
I think they look something like this. and this
Neo-ganon
so respectuful! i like it
-sarcasm-
In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you
its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. PeaceIts kinda weird 30 years ago the irish we though of as terrorists.
However a lot of americans supported the IRA, its strange how opinions change. (Im irish btw so I remember ragan supporting the IRA)
It's good to see some other folks rememberign that. It's probably a good lesson, because look at how much has changed. Yeah, there are a few pathetic "hold outs", but essentially that's done. Times change, and it's another good reason for people to study history for perspective.Yes, the first image that comes to mind is an Arab. I know it's wrong for me to think like that, but it just happens :?
On the other hand, thinking of Islam doesn't bring terrorism to mind.
Whenever I hear "Islam", I think of dates (the food). I love dates...Really? Are you sure they're not just thieving white men from Europe and America?Yes, because most of the reported terrorist attacks are committed by Islamic extremists from predominantly Arab nations.
phillo99
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Anyone one who says they dont is a liar.MushroomWigHow so? Ever heard of the IRA? Or any other non-arabic terrorist group? Are you no longer a BNP supporter?
Hmmm... I wonder if people remember 'The Red Brigade', and that whole branch of craziness. The sad reality is thatwhat people think of is probably based on which gruop of ******** hurt the people closest to them, and when. It can be pretty much any race or ethnicity AFAIK. People... we're weird animals.
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"]
I think they look something like this. and this
Monkey_N1nga
so respectuful! i like it
-sarcasm-
In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you
its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. PeaceI call BS
I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.
Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)
know the difference
Yes, yes I do, islamist extremists to be exact, though I don't particularly think of terrorist when I think of Arabs, for some reason fezes and turbans come to mind when I think of Arabs even though the fez is more of an ottoman empire thing.
It wasn't always like this though before the 9/11 tragedy. I used to think of terrorists as Die Hard's bad guys, as in predominately European mercenaries/ex-soldiers working together with a super villain type of guy for a cause, to me this says a lot about the influence of pop culture and the media can have on a person.
its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"]
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
so respectuful! i like it
-sarcasm-
In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you
Neo-ganon
I call BS
I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.
Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)
know the difference
In many countries, people hate americans for many reasons, eg. barging into one's country, killing someone and leaving (Pakistan and Osama)or the stupid chopper clip of soldiers laughing at killing innocent civilians (its on youtube). What makes you think you are right. I might not but others have a different mind set than you and think differently. Many people were angry when osama died for some reason, so why not?[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"] its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace
I call BS
I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.
Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)
know the difference
In many countries, people hate americans for many reasons, eg. barging into one's country, killing someone and leaving (Pakistan and Osama)or the stupid chopper clip of soldiers laughing at killing innocent civilians (its on youtube). What makes you think you are right. I might not but others have a different mind set than you and think differently. Many people were angry when osama died for some reason, so why not? Terrorism is all about the intent to leverage a relatively small action into a sense of fear in the general populace. That any military action in your backyard may piss you off or scare you, doesn't make it terrorist if the goal is not terrorstic. For example, Pearl Harbor... not a terrorist act, but an act of war. Killing bin Laden wasn't about scaring Pakistanis, but killing the guy. Terrorist action would have been leveling a few blocks around his building to send a message. That's why not.I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.
Hate will die when all people have died.I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.
Hate will die when all people have died. So in order to rid the world from hate, we just have to kill em all! Go get em kcube.I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.
Hate will die when all people have died. So in order to rid the world from hate, we just have to kill em all! Go get em kcube. You've got it! That... or you know... deal with human nature and roll with the punches. Nah... you know what, time for RAGNAROK!!! :Pwhen someone says terrorist the first thing that comes to mind is muslim.a muslimthat is wearing a cap ,has a beard and keeps his pants above his ankles (although thatfits the description of an arab) .
and why is this ?? well imo the media has successfully potrayed muslims as terrorist .they have taken the black sheeps of the muslim community and have potrayed them as they represent majority of the muslims .they have also attached another word with the muslims that is Jihad and again have potrayed muslims as "hungry for blood" type of people .
and just to be clear Jihad means to struggle .if i am studying hard to pass my exams i am doing Jihad.....
When I hear about terrorists I don't SPECIFICALLY think of Arabs, I think mainly of those of Middle Eastern descent, but obviously only in certain contexts.
The word has taken on a far stronger meaning these days - pre 9/11 arguments could be made sympathising the roots of the plight of various terrorist factions, these days there is none - to be branded a terrorist is forever to carry an albatros around the neck. I actually interviewed a convicted terrorist for a job a while back who'd just come out of a high security prison for 4 years. He cut a pretty sad figure and having been the subject of much media coverage around the globe, the person depicted at the time of the trial shared little resembalence to the humble, somewhat shy person I met. What I took away from that is the imagery that the term evokes is quite seperate from the reality. Sure there are individuals fit the media depicted stereotype perfectly, but these days there is a fear of the word itself.
I would like to know what is considered a terrorist.. Because the United States and really any country out there has supported terrorist groups that they called "freedom fighters".
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"]Hate will die when all people have died. So in order to rid the world from hate, we just have to kill em all! Go get em kcube.I think that people are just full of hate and something needs to be done to fix that.
Dystopian-X
I could do that.Killing everyone sounds fun.
its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace[QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"]
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
so respectuful! i like it
-sarcasm-
In all seriousness though, show some respect please. I dont give a crap on what your opinion of the war is, just show some respect for the people who die for your right to say stupid crap like that. God forbid something bad happens in an area where you live, and they end up digging you up and caring for you
Neo-ganon
I call BS
I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.
Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)
know the difference
Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBH[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"][QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"] its just his opinion, like everyone elses. You should welcome everyones opinion. People think of muslims/arabs and if anything his opinion is probably not as bad as what other people say on this thread. Peace
Nayef_shroof
I call BS
I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.
Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)
know the difference
Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBH Did the US military specifically target civilians?[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBH Did the US military was specifically target civilians? They obviously disregard the safety of civillians since thats an insane statisticI call BS
I do welcome other peoples opinions, but thats just a blatant insult to me personally since i happen to have family members in the military who have served in iraq and Afghanastan.
Now, there is a huge difference between an army fighting for country purely for the ideals of their country against armed enemy combatants and TERRORists who exclusivley target civilians for the purpose of inciting terror and panic while hiding amongst them. Now, there are civilian casualties on our part, but thats called "collateral damage" and "friendly fire," meaning that civilian casualties are almost always accidental. Its not like our soldiers are ordered to purposefully target civilians for the sake of hurting enemy morale (thats what terrorists do)
know the difference
DroidPhysX
When I hear about terrorists I don't SPECIFICALLY think of Arabs, I think mainly of those of Middle Eastern descent, but obviously only in certain contexts.
airshocker
So when you think of terrorists, you think of anyone from the Middle East?
Just need clarification because your statement confused me a little, sorry.
I would like to know what is considered a terrorist.. Because the United States and really any country out there has supported terrorist groups that they called "freedom fighters".
sSubZerOo
There is basically no real definition.
One side's terrorists are the other sides heroes ... and vice versa.
Did the US military was specifically target civilians? They obviously disregard the safety of civillians since thats an insane statistic So is that a yes or no?[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] Really? Collateral damage? Thats what people call it? There were approximately 3000 innocent civillians killed in 9/11, which is tragic, but in Iraq alone, there have been more than 1000000 (one million) civillian deaths caused by America, with the entire Iraqi populace being negatively affected. Dont think that just because they arent american that you could disregard other ethnincities and nationalities as collateral damage. You shouldn't be advising someone to respect anything TBHNayef_shroof
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