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#101 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Prison is not a fun place. If you're a rapist, you can pretty much be sure that you'll get a HUGE taste of your own medicine in prison, and if you're this guy...............

Cheesehead9099
True. Often times prisoners will take matters into their own hands if someone is convicted of a truly heinous crime. There's a code even in jail.
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#102 NukaNuked
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Can't even imagin the parents horror.

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I'm pretty sure it went something like this :o -> :? -> :evil: -> :cry:

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#103 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="jaydough"] So is an incarcerated man.

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Obviously not harmless enough because the kid is dead and dismembered.

That was a man.

This is an incarcerated man.

And he should be a dead man. There is no reason in keeping people like this alive. Waste of space, air, and resources.
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#104 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Obviously not harmless enough because the kid is dead and dismembered. th3warr1or

That was a man.

This is an incarcerated man.

And he should be a dead man. There is no reason in keeping people like this alive. Waste of space, air, and resources.

It costs less to keep a man in prison than to kill him.

It's more efficient to let him have his human rights.

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#105 th3warr1or
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="jaydough"] That was a man.

This is an incarcerated man.

jaydough

And he should be a dead man. There is no reason in keeping people like this alive. Waste of space, air, and resources.

It costs less to keep a man in prison than to kill him.

It's more efficient to let him have his human rights.

Rights? What rights does he deserve. We're all animals by classification anyway. If a lion/tiger/bear gets killed for attacking a settlement, this guy should be killed too. Simple as that. Btw, it only costs more to kill someone because of the way the stupid and immensely flawed judicial system works. It won't cost a cent to take him back out and shoot him.

Anyway I'm going to stop posting now, because I'm not here to change your mind, and I've already stated what I think about this. It's just gonna go round in circles until it gets too heated and one or both of us get modded.

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#106 Aquat1cF1sh
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That's really twisted.
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#107 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] And he should be a dead man. There is no reason in keeping people like this alive. Waste of space, air, and resources. th3warr1or

It costs less to keep a man in prison than to kill him.

It's more efficient to let him have his human rights.

Rights? What rights does he deserve. We're all animals by classification anyway. If a lion/tiger/bear gets killed for attacking a settlement, this guy should be killed too. Simple as that. Anyway I'm going to stop posting now, because I'm not here to change your mind, and I've already stated what I think about this. It's just gonna go round in circles until it gets too heated and one or both of us get modded.

Humans are also organisms.

We cut trees down and burn them for warmth when they haven't done anything, right?

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#108 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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Anyway I'm going to stop posting now, because I'm not here to change your mind,

th3warr1or

Because you aren't justifying anything properly.

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#109 spacedog1973
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Killing the murderder only serves to satisy a primative urge but doesnt begin to solve the casue of this problem. Why and how could a human being be this sick? What drives a person to do this to an innocent himan being? Killing him only coveres up the issue. He should be interviewed and exmined for years and years which can only be achieved through a life in prison which is what he should get. People here who advocate the eye for an eye punishment are almost as bad, except they dont have the excuse of extremely violent obvious mental health issues.
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#110 Sunfyre7896
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[QUOTE="realistic44"]

I really hope he gets the death penalty :|

http://news.yahoo.com/8-old-brooklyn-boy-killed-dismembered-191831616.html

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That's just messed up. He shouldn't be killed, but left to rot in prison for this.

I say that they should lock him up for life, without parole in some solitary confinement cell that he can never leave, not even for a minute. He can have a bathroom in there and they feed him meals through the door. There would also be a water fountain. No bed, nothing that he could kill himself with. No utensils with the food. The only human contact would be the guards getting his tray. This would allow him to be alone with his thoughts and have to think about why he's there. Why give the easy out of a quick death without torture. Now, most states say it's too inhumane to use the chair or the gas chamber, so they have to get a couple of shots in an i.v. or whatever and that's good enough. They could have killed 30 people, but we wouldn't want them to to be uncomfortable when they get their easy way out with a couple of shots to just put them to sleep. People like this have forfeited their right to a comfortable death and something humane seeing as they weren't humane. This sounds like a forgive everyone, religious point. No one like this deserves anything humane. Heck, torture him daily and throw him back in the hole after your done. Keep him alive to do it again. People get sickened by this, but honestly no one really fears our justice system as far as hardcore people are concerned. Many get to go and get nice meals and tv so people rob banks just to go back. If you kill someone, you get out early. If you get death, you get your own cell on death row and then you get a couple of nice little shots to put you to sleep. They should get what they deserve and not what some people fearful of violence say they should get. The punishment should at least be on par with the crime to an extent. A person that kills a single person by shooting them once in the head shouldn't get the same as someone whom kills 50 people by torturing them for hours and then dismembering them while they're still alive. Some kinds of murder are just worse than others.

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#111 weezyfb
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yeah i'm not reading that article
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#112 lamprey263
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terrible... maybe he'll try the Casey Anthony tactic that disposal of body does not prove murder kind of excuse
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#113 WSGRandomPerson
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Damn...
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#114 MrMe1000
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WHY ISN'T DEXTER A REAL PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#116 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="jaydough"] It costs less to keep a man in prison than to kill him.

It's more efficient to let him have his human rights.

jaydough

Rights? What rights does he deserve. We're all animals by classification anyway. If a lion/tiger/bear gets killed for attacking a settlement, this guy should be killed too. Simple as that. Anyway I'm going to stop posting now, because I'm not here to change your mind, and I've already stated what I think about this. It's just gonna go round in circles until it gets too heated and one or both of us get modded.

Humans are also organisms.

We cut trees down and burn them for warmth when they haven't done anything, right?

Back to the human rights part, capital punishment isn't a violation of his rights.
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#117 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"][QUOTE="realistic44"]

I really hope he gets the death penalty :|

http://news.yahoo.com/8-old-brooklyn-boy-killed-dismembered-191831616.html

Sunfyre7896

That's just messed up. He shouldn't be killed, but left to rot in prison for this.

I say that they should lock him up for life, without parole in some solitary confinement cell that he can never leave, not even for a minute. He can have a bathroom in there and they feed him meals through the door. There would also be a water fountain. No bed, nothing that he could kill himself with. No utensils with the food. The only human contact would be the guards getting his tray. This would allow him to be alone with his thoughts and have to think about why he's there. Why give the easy out of a quick death without torture. Now, most states say it's too inhumane to use the chair or the gas chamber, so they have to get a couple of shots in an i.v. or whatever and that's good enough. They could have killed 30 people, but we wouldn't want them to to be uncomfortable when they get their easy way out with a couple of shots to just put them to sleep. People like this have forfeited their right to a comfortable death and something humane seeing as they weren't humane. This sounds like a forgive everyone, religious point. No one like this deserves anything humane. Heck, torture him daily and throw him back in the hole after your done. Keep him alive to do it again. People get sickened by this, but honestly no one really fears our justice system as far as hardcore people are concerned. Many get to go and get nice meals and tv so people rob banks just to go back. If you kill someone, you get out early. If you get death, you get your own cell on death row and then you get a couple of nice little shots to put you to sleep. They should get what they deserve and not what some people fearful of violence say they should get. The punishment should at least be on par with the crime to an extent. A person that kills a single person by shooting them once in the head shouldn't get the same as someone whom kills 50 people by torturing them for hours and then dismembering them while they're still alive. Some kinds of murder are just worse than others.

You seem to be getting joy out of thinking of torturing people who pose no threat any more.

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#118 ROFLCOPTER603
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Just send him to jail for life. That's a far greater punishment than death.

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#119 JustPlainLucas
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Well... I'd hope so... Actually, he won't even need the death penalty. He'll be cut to ribbons within a month after the rest of the inmates found out what he did.
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#120 NuclearFlower
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That's what happens when you let an 8 year old walk the streets of New York by himself.Could have been easily avoided.
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#121 Solid_Tango
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I would really like to know the reasson why he did this.
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#122 XCyberForceX
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Well... I'd hope so... Actually, he won't even need the death penalty. He'll be cut to ribbons within a month after the rest of the inmates found out what he did.JustPlainLucas
I agree. That'll be far worse than any death penalty. May that's why he's saying he hears voices all the time. He's going for the insanity plea.
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#123 DarkFadi
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I would really like to know the reasson why he did this.Solid_Tango
Probably bordom.
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#124 wiifan001
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Death penalty +1.
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#125 Tangmashi
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That's just horrible. We fail as a society.

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#126 limpbizkit818
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Get ready for the "mental illness" defense.
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#127 Sword-Demon
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I'd say isolation for the rest of his life would be suitable. no interaction with anyone or anything whatsoever until the day he dies

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#128 edinsftw
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They should cut out his eyes, destroy his ear drums and paralyze him neck down. Then keep him alive in solitary confinement.

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#129 realistic44
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Get ready for the "mental illness" defense. limpbizkit818

Yeah thats what i was gonna say, the system is too much of a joke nowadays.

he'll claim that he is mentally ill and the judge is probably gonna show leniency

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#130 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"]

Prison is not a fun place. If you're a rapist, you can pretty much be sure that you'll get a HUGE taste of your own medicine in prison, and if you're this guy...............

sonicare
True. Often times prisoners will take matters into their own hands if someone is convicted of a truly heinous crime. There's a code even in jail.

Prison inmates don't give a **** about how "heinous" a crime is. The only reason they terrorize rapists/pedos is because they find those people disgusting/weird. Ironically, if you go in for a killing an entire family as a way to get back at a guy who stung you on a drug deal you'll be treated pretty well. Not that this really happens much anymore. Sex offenders and snitches get cordoned off into protective custody. Anyway, I say give this guy life. If he cut up the kid while he was alive though, then by all means give him death.
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#131 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]Get ready for the "mental illness" defense. realistic44

Yeah thats what i was gonna say, the system is too much of a joke nowadays.

he'll claim that he is mentally ill and the judge is probably gonna show leniency

IMO most inmates should be given the insanity plea. If you look at the statistics, the majority of inmates have at least one (usually multiple) psychiatric disorders, low IQs, and even a history of head injury/brain damage. Considering people with brain damage to the prefrontal cortex or who have sociopathy/psychopathy, pedophilia, etc. are incapable of controlling themselves, I'd say it's ignorant if not stupid to be holding these guys to a standard that assumes they have the same mental faculties to exert control over themselves as normal people. In my opinion, we should re-open asylums for the criminally insane and house all the inmates who would meet those criteria there. People going in for drug abuse charges should likewise be sent to rehabs, not prison. You do this and maybe you can actually successfully treat these guys instead of giving them a prison sentence and acting all surprised when they immediately commit another crime when they get out or go psychotic in prison. Contrary to popular belief, punishing these people doesn't actually do anything constructive (in fact, sociopaths and psychopaths are incapable of learning from punishment; they simply do not react to it at all).
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#132 MrGeezer
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Person? I didn't see mentioning causing any "person" misery in my post. I do see a support of ridding the world of subhuman scum. Why do we put down a dog for biting a home invader, but this is off limits? Sorry, we're all classified as animals anyway. th3warr1or

Less than Human?

Dude...take a step back and look at yourself. That's the attitude which is ultimately used to justify almost every atrocity ever committed. The second that you have to dehumanize someone in order to justify torturing the **** out of him, is the second that you've just become the monster yourself.

Now...if you still think that the dude deserves to be tortured mercilessly or slaughtered painfully, then at least have the moral consistency to hold that attitude while still acknowledging his fundamental humanity. But if you seriously have to DENY his humanity in order to justify doing that to him, then you're seriously thinking from a dark place which is threatening to turn YOU into a monster.

Seriously dude..."less than human" is the standard route for ANYONE who wants to justify doing something horrible to someone else. That's the attitude that CREATES monsters. And at that point, you've just lost the moral high ground, and simply turned into someone who is looking for an excuse to torture the **** out of a dude.

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#133 Saturos3091
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Meh, the world has seen much worse.

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#134 Tangmashi
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I'd say isolation for the rest of his life would be suitable. no interaction with anyone or anything whatsoever until the day he dies

Sword-Demon

Seriously? You know you're not supposed to reward people for committing crimes like this.

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#135 ABCarmine
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Dude, I have the same name as the killer....
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#136 Zorgax
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why is it on OT everyday there is a thread where someone is b*tching about a certain person or group of people not having their 'human rights' recognised yet whenever a thread like this turns up its always 'torture and killthis subhuman scum!!!! he deserves no rights!!'

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#137 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

I'd say isolation for the rest of his life would be suitable. no interaction with anyone or anything whatsoever until the day he dies

Tangmashi

Seriously? You know you're not supposed to reward people for committing crimes like this.

i don't see how 0 interaction for years upon years is a reward. psychopaths are already prone to boredom, having absolutely nothing to do but sit there and talk to yourself for that long could easily be considered tortuous imo
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#138 hadoken
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man this thread makes me want to turn into the real life punisher and take a chain saw to this guys arms and legs
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#139 poptart
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He obviously has a couple of issues. Curious as to why he kept the feet in the fridge though. I know some people have foot fetishes, but this is taking it a little too far. Then again he may have just been saving them for a nice broth or summat.

Quite why the uproar here I don't know. Such things happen. That's the problem with reading this kind of s*** - some information has no bearing on our lives, has no benefit, does not better us, yet our modern thirst for irrelevent information drives us to lap it up.

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#140 Lotus-Edge
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[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

They need to pull a Rorshach and kill him with a meat cleaver.

They could be done in 10 seconds.

This. /thread
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#141 gameking5000
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I really hope he gets the death penalty :|

http://news.yahoo.com/8-old-brooklyn-boy-killed-dismembered-191831616.html

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Nobody deserves the death penalty.
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#142 MrGeezer
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He obviously has a couple of issues. Curious as to why he kept the feet in the fridge though. I know some people have foot fetishes, but this is taking it a little too far. Then again he may have just been saving them for a nice broth or summat.

Quite why the uproar here I don't know. Such things happen. That's the problem with reading this kind of s*** - some information has no bearing on our lives, has no benefit, does not better us, yet our modern thirst for irrelevent information drives us to lap it up.

poptart

The thing that bothers me is this...I get the feeling that people are less concerned about how the kid died, and are more concerned with him getting chopped up afterwards.

I mean...the article says that there was no indication of rape and that the cause of death wasn't determined. So...the kid doesn't appear to have been raped, and we don't even know how he died. The entire uproar seems less about the MURDER, and more about the fact that he got chopped up afterwards.

Just screams "sensationalism" to me. Kids get kidnapped and murdered all the time and nobody really gives a ****. But chop the kid up after he's dead, and "it's on."

Bottom line...this story seems sensational NOT because of the actual horrifying murder, but because the murderer happened to chop up the body. If the kid had been found dead in a ditch intact with a knife wound to the chest, would we even be talking about this? If the kid was in a condition in which he's suitable to have an open-casket funeral, would this have even been a story? I'm seriously getting the impression that no one would have given a **** if the murderer hadn't chopped up the kid's dead body. And somehow, I sort of think that's disrespectful to the kid who got murdered. I seriously get the impression that the outrage ISN'T about him getting murdered, but is instead about what the murderer did to the kid's corpse.

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#143 ScottMescudi
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Surveillance of missing 8-year old boy

Terrible :(

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#144 MrGeezer
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Nobody deserves the death penalty. gameking5000

I'm not gonna go that far.

What I will say is that "deserves" has nothing to do with it.

Whether someone deserves the death penalty or not, the death penalty says far more about the people giving it than it does about the people receiving it.

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#145 imetamonster
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I really hope he gets the death penalty :|

http://news.yahoo.com/8-old-brooklyn-boy-killed-dismembered-191831616.html

realistic44

though i agree this is extremely disturbing....

Even in these horrific cases, i dont think anyone deserves to die. He is mentaly ill

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#146 ScottMescudi
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[QUOTE="realistic44"]

I really hope he gets the death penalty :|

http://news.yahoo.com/8-old-brooklyn-boy-killed-dismembered-191831616.html

imetamonster

though i agree this is extremely disturbing....

Even in these horrific cases, i dont think anyone deserves to die. He is mentaly ill

Best if someone amputates his leg. Karma :(

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#147 poptart
Member since 2003 • 7298 Posts

[QUOTE="poptart"]

He obviously has a couple of issues. Curious as to why he kept the feet in the fridge though. I know some people have foot fetishes, but this is taking it a little too far. Then again he may have just been saving them for a nice broth or summat.

Quite why the uproar here I don't know. Such things happen. That's the problem with reading this kind of s*** - some information has no bearing on our lives, has no benefit, does not better us, yet our modern thirst for irrelevent information drives us to lap it up.

MrGeezer

The thing that bothers me is this...I get the feeling that people are less concerned about how the kid died, and are more concerned with him getting chopped up afterwards.

I mean...the article says that there was no indication of rape and that the cause of death wasn't determined. So...the kid doesn't appear to have been raped, and we don't even know how he died. The entire uproar seems less about the MURDER, and more about the fact that he got chopped up afterwards.

Just screams "sensationalism" to me. Kids get kidnapped and murdered all the time and nobody really gives a ****. But chop the kid up after he's dead, and "it's on."

Bottom line...this story seems sensational NOT because of the actual horrifying murder, but because the murderer happened to chop up the body. If the kid had been found dead in a ditch intact with a knife wound to the chest, would we even be talking about this? If the kid was in a condition in which he's suitable to have an open-casket funeral, would this have even been a story? I'm seriously getting the impression that no one would have given a **** if the murderer hadn't chopped up the kid's dead body. And somehow, I sort of think that's disrespectful to the kid who got murdered. I seriously get the impression that the outrage ISN'T about him getting murdered, but is instead about what the murderer did to the kid's corpse.

That's completely right - what he did to the corpse in many ways is neither here nor there tbh, albeit it makes it tougher for the family in some ways. Personally I can only assume there's something drastically wrong with guy - to dismember a body in such a manner is stepping outside the realms of what is deemed normal behaviour.

The actual act of a kid being killed isn't exactly unique news mind you. In fact dismembering a body post event isn't either - we hear of many a 'body found in bin' stories. People lose a screw and these things happen - tis the way of the world and it won't change.

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#148 imetamonster
Member since 2008 • 793 Posts

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]Person? I didn't see mentioning causing any "person" misery in my post. I do see a support of ridding the world of subhuman scum. Why do we put down a dog for biting a home invader, but this is off limits? Sorry, we're all classified as animals anyway. MrGeezer

Less than Human?

Dude...take a step back and look at yourself. That's the attitude which is ultimately used to justify almost every atrocity ever committed. The second that you have to dehumanize someone in order to justify torturing the **** out of him, is the second that you've just become the monster yourself.

Now...if you still think that the dude deserves to be tortured mercilessly or slaughtered painfully, then at least have the moral consistency to hold that attitude while still acknowledging his fundamental humanity. But if you seriously have to DENY his humanity in order to justify doing that to him, then you're seriously thinking from a dark place which is threatening to turn YOU into a monster.

Seriously dude..."less than human" is the standard route for ANYONE who wants to justify doing something horrible to someone else. That's the attitude that CREATES monsters. And at that point, you've just lost the moral high ground, and simply turned into someone who is looking for an excuse to torture the **** out of a dude.

Agreed... ts sad when peoples anger makes em the monster. And that seems to happen alot. the first thing people have a urge to say to any killer/rapist/pedo is... TORTURE THE *****ER *****ER That itself sounds like insanity to me
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#150 Oil_Rope_Bombs
Member since 2010 • 2667 Posts
Somebody torture this guy. Hard.