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#151 cgi15
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[QUOTE="cgi15"]

[QUOTE="poptart"]

Cigarette smoke is minimal compared to the toxins pumped out by cars, taxis, buses and industry, I remember a few years ago reading that living in central London by one main road equated to the smoking 20 cigarettes per day in terms of toxins inhaled. I'm sure there are numerous studies conducted by anti-smoking parties proving your point, but I wouldn't give them much credence TBH... Anything burned will pollute the atmosphere I'm sure, and if that's your concern I'm sure there are far larger culprits to target than smokers...

theone86

Cars put out more pollution, but the pollution is less dangerous. The number of carcinogens and other deadly chemicals is staggering compared to car fumes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_constituents

The most dangerous thing a car puts out is CO, which is only harmful if you get extremely high doses of it in a contained space.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_is_worst_Car_exhaust_verses_cigarette_smoke

This guy mentions this study which shows that cigarette toxins are far greater than a car (besides the CO)

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12481.php

What are you on? Dangerous pollutants can create acid rain, they can pollute our breathing air, cause the PPM of oxygen to rapidly decrease, can conctribute to urban heat islands that further reduce air quality, can cause smog, do I really have to go on? Cars are horrible for air quality, anyone who lives in LA can tell you so.

Cars are horrible for air quality, but so are cigarettes. However, cars are used by people for a purpose, and a purpose that can lead to productivity. Just like smokestacks on factories. The air pollution (while regulated) is terrible, but the factory is producing something that will benefit consumers. Cigarette smoke on the other hand, doesn't lead to anything productive.

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#152 cs45F
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You're obsessed.jimmyjammer69
Not really i smoke at work all the time and ive had no less than 10 people yell at me in the last month its stupid im not going to quit smoking because of you.
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#153 Locutus_Picard
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Enjoy.

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#154 poptart
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If I'm not willingly going to put toxins in my body, why should I have to deal with yours? I mean it's one thing if you're standing in an easily avoidable back alley, other people can go around. But don't sit there and tell me it's your right to stand there blowing your nasty smoke in a busy public area where other people have no choice but to be in as well. If you couldn't accept it if I'd like to put my ass near your face and let one rip, I don't understand how you expect me to tolerate your actually toxic smoke near mine. It's not "cool" to hate on smokers, it's just that people are realizing how disrespectful it is to allow another person to blow their disgusting smoke around in public. Not all of us are smokers, if you choose to be, go ahead and enjoy it, but don't do it around those of us who choose not to suck on cancer sticks.XilePrincess

Well it is cool to hate on smokers. As seen here there's a degree of irrationality shown the disproportional weighting of concern placed upon smokers and their pollution, when in reality the toxins smoker's emit is minimal compared to that of transport and industry. There's an argument to be said for the smell mind you, but toxins in the air? If people are concerned by pollution I would have thought there's a better argument to be made for enforcing cars to have a minimum of 2 passengers when travelling into the city than to curb smoking, but then again that isn't quite as interesting as picking on smokers it seems… :P

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#155 Lto_thaG
Member since 2006 • 22611 Posts

^^
I've seen the truth.
*edit*
Those lame pictures.

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#156 daqua_99
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If you walk past me smoking, you are effecting me and my health. If you are sitting on a chair on a path smoking, and I have to walk past you, through your smoke, you are effecting me. If you are smoking next to me, I have a legal right to ask you to stop smoking, and fi you don't I have a legal right to sue you.

However, if you are smoking by yourself, or out of the way, then I cannot stop you from smoking. People who come up to you and complain, when you are out of the way, are jerks. However you smoke near a non-smoker, you should expect complaining.

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#157 Symphonycometh
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I don't feel that blog helps a smoker's cause out at all. It was like listening to an anti-anti-smoker - which is ironic. - Which makes for an annoying blog. Anyways, if there weren't any negative effects to 2nd hand smoking, (including smell!) I'd find it kinda of cool looking. But that smell isn't something non-smokers like. And we can smell it pretty much instantly: in cars, clothing, ect. If that were gone, I'd be happy to hang around them more often. Also, this day and age, I'm always wondering about what brings people to start smoking. If that can be cleared for me in more ways than just "it's my life, I'll do with it as I please", I'd be more accepting as well. Until then, the word "why?!" will always come to mind. I couldn't do that to my body. ' -'
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#158 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I don't mind smokers. I just don't want them smoking around me, where I live, or where I work. I hate cigarette smoke. It's odor is offensive and it's dangerous to my health

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#159 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]People smoke for a few reasons. I will list them for you and then you can think about which one is you, though it's unlikely you'll admit it to yourself. 1. They can't tolerate being around other people unless they're smoking, or drink, or doing something that distracts them from how annoying other people are. 2. They smoke because they' can't cope with the reality of their lives Every minimal task is troublesome, burdensome and stressful, so without that cigarette they just can't bare being alive. 3. And finally, the most horrible reason to smoke, is Image. People smoke because they like the image of a smoker. They think it makes them cool, or some how appealing on certain social levels. A smoker might all three of these reasons, only two of them, or maybe only one of them. But all of them are pretty darn pathetic.jwsoul

4. Smoking gets you high.

Smoking is actually a social undertaking when around other smokers so your logic pretty much falls flat on its face regarding 1. To top it off now that Smokers are outside ("GOOD") they gather and mingle even more so than before. Smoking can also create social interaction. For example "Mate you got a Smoke", Yeah sure man. ETC ETC Yeah Logic fail on number 1.

Huh?

I didn't say anything about smoking as a social activity.

Furthermore, smoking as a social activity only works when people want to be social. I'm sure you've noticed that many smokers smoke ALONE, and that even non-social people also smoke.

All I said was that people smoke because it gets people high. I didn't say anything about his list of potential reasons, I simply added one (the BIGGEST reason) that he overlooked.

People smoke because it makes them feel good. That's about the gist of it. All the other reasons may exist in certain cases, but they are all tangential to the fact that nicotine is a drugs that gets people high.

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#160 xbox360isgr8t
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ive smoked and never felt the need to keep doing it. anyone addicted to smoking is straight bs. I do not see how anyone can get addicted to smoking.
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#161 bloodling
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ive smoked and never felt the need to keep doing it. anyone addicted to smoking is straight bs. I do not see how anyone can get addicted to smoking. xbox360isgr8t

That's because you didn't smoke, you just kept the smoke in your mouth.

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#162 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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I don't care if someone smokes or not. My mom regularly does, and my dad occasionally does. Now, from a health aspect it may raise some concerns (if said person actually means something to me and it actually comes to that point), but even then I try and not get all preachy.

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#163 topsemag55
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If you couldn't accept it if I'd like to put my ass near your face and let one rip.XilePrincess

Funniest post I've read in a while.:lol:

*wipes tears from eyes*

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#164 jerk-o-tron2000
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Eh, It really doen't bother me...

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#165 JuggaloRandall
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]ive smoked and never felt the need to keep doing it. anyone addicted to smoking is straight bs. I do not see how anyone can get addicted to smoking. bloodling

That's because you didn't smoke, you just kept the smoke in your mouth.

If he had inhaled he probably would have coughed up his lung :lol:.
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#166 ChaelaMcchubble
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I hate when smokers think they can smoke anywhere they want or they get mad when there is a special smoking area for them. I prefer not to smell like smoke or smell smoke

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#167 W1ckedGo0se
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I tend to keep my smoking in my car or by ash trays around building which I can assume were put there so we could smoke by them and then put the cigarette away with out littering... If I'm in one of the few area's where there is an ash tray and people rage at me I just want to punch them in the face... I can kinda understand that people don't like walking past someone smoking, but it's not going to hurt you and the smell isn't going to stay on your cloths for more then 5 minutes if you don't stop to talk to the person and rage at them... Second hand smoke is only a problem if your in the same closed area as the smoker while they are smoking and that's also the only way your cloths are going to stink for more then 5 minutes...
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#168 roadwish
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If everyone suddenly stops smoking think what kind of economical crisis it would create. Governments lose lots of money several hundred thousands people lose their jobs.

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#169 Penguinchow
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It's a stupid, unhealthy, expensive habit that effects everyone around you. Why pay to get lung cancer? It's your right to smoke, but you're stupid for taking advantage of said right. IMO money/health > looking cool/momentary rush any day. Seriously.
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#170 ad1x2
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I probably smoked two cigarettes in my life. Once just to try it out while I was in Korea with some friends at a bar and again in Iraq while kneeling behind a Bradley and friendly artillery was pounding a group of insurgents who was shooting at us a few minutes earlier. Other than that, I avoid smoking. I'm not mad at them if they do it away from me. What I think is ironic is that I knew people in New York who said if cigarettes got over $5 a pack they would quit. Well, when it actually did go over $5 a pack they still didn't quit, they just took a harder hit on their budget. The ones who couldn't afford to smoke like they used to just reduced their intake but kept doing it. The fact of the matter is that while it's good to show concern, there's no reason to try and be a health Nazi. They'll either quit on their own, quit with moral (family) or physical (nicotine substitutes) support, or not quit at all.

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#171 TreebucketLumi
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If you walk past me smoking, you are effecting me and my health. If you are sitting on a chair on a path smoking, and I have to walk past you, through your smoke, you are effecting me. If you are smoking next to me, I have a legal right to ask you to stop smoking, and fi you don't I have a legal right to sue you.daqua_99

You might have some grounds to sue if you were exposed to second-hand smoke constantly, and it could be shown to be the fault of a single entity. If you have to walk by a guy on a sidewalk and he's smoking, and you try to sue, well, uh, good luck, because you'll need it.

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#172 W1ckedGo0se
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[QUOTE="daqua_99"]If you walk past me smoking, you are effecting me and my health. If you are sitting on a chair on a path smoking, and I have to walk past you, through your smoke, you are effecting me. If you are smoking next to me, I have a legal right to ask you to stop smoking, and fi you don't I have a legal right to sue you.TreebucketLumi

You might have some grounds to sue if you were exposed to second-hand smoke constantly, and it could be shown to be the fault of a single entity. If you have to walk by a guy on a sidewalk and he's smoking, and you try to sue, well, uh, good luck, because you'll need it.

In America it might work for him... How sad...

Edit: PS... I just watched you sig for 10 minutes... I'm not sure why because I've seen it a few times, but I guess it finally blow my mind

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#173 JustPlainLucas
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I'm against smoking, but I surely do not walk up to a total stranger and lecture or berate them. You can smoke all you want, just not in my car and not in my house.
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#174 JustPlainLucas
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Well it is cool to hate on smokers. As seen here there's a degree of irrationality shown the disproportional weighting of concern placed upon smokers and their pollution, when in reality the toxins smoker's emit is minimal compared to that of transport and industry. There's an argument to be said for the smell mind you, but toxins in the air? If people are concerned by pollution I would have thought there's a better argument to be made for enforcing cars to have a minimum of 2 passengers when travelling into the city than to curb smoking, but then again that isn't quite as interesting as picking on smokers it seems… :P

poptart
I was going to bring this point up, but I see I've been beaten. You are not going to die by walking across one person's smoke cloud. Damage from second hand smoke comes from long term exposure, like living in a smoker household, or working in bars or clubs that allow smoking. To look down on people who smoke in public where clean air greatly outweighs cigarette smoke is condescending, and you come off as rather holier than though. Just try to keep in mind that these "smokers" aren't just smokers; they're people who just want to be left alone to enjoy their own thing.
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#175 Renegade_Fury
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I don't care if smokers want to kill themselves, but I do care when I'm stuck breathing their poison. Unfortunately for me, it occurs multiple times a day since I can't hold my breath for 10 minutes while walking.