I'm a Republican...not necessarily a conservative...
But the more I watch Obama (and not the pundits trashing him--or attempting to defend him), the more I respect him.
I'm not a Democrat, but I'm glad my President is Obama.
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A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on? No I don't th ink there are any pro-obama republicans around here.
A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on? No I don't th ink there are any pro-obama republicans around here.
Garric001
noted, thanks
[QUOTE="Stowik"]
I'm a Republican...not necessarily a conservative...
But the more I watch Obama (and not the pundits trashing him--or attempting to defend him), the more I respect him.
I'm not a Democrat, but I'm glad my President is Obama.
roulettethedog
I voted for Obama as a liberal Republican, but am starting to regret it as he is spending WAY to much $$$$$$$$$$.
Yea I'm more of a moderate republican, have some liberal tendencies. maybe a liberal republican. At any rate, I voted for McCain, but in retrospect I'm glad Obama won (now it's only been 65 days so we'll see but so far...)
Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus!A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on? No I don't th ink there are any pro-obama republicans around here.
Garric001
[QUOTE="roulettethedog"]
[QUOTE="Stowik"]
I'm a Republican...not necessarily a conservative...
But the more I watch Obama (and not the pundits trashing him--or attempting to defend him), the more I respect him.
I'm not a Democrat, but I'm glad my President is Obama.
Stowik
I voted for Obama as a liberal Republican, but am starting to regret it as he is spending WAY to much $$$$$$$$$$.
Yea I'm more of a moderate republican, have some liberal tendencies. maybe a liberal republican. At any rate, I voted for McCain, but in retrospect I'm glad Obama won (now it's only been 65 days so we'll see but so far...)
Hmm. You are an interesting man. I don't know how to label you.
But then, labels suck.
I am glad you support our leader.
[QUOTE="Garric001"]Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus!A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on? No I don't th ink there are any pro-obama republicans around here.
-Sun_Tzu-
Dont forget denying the right to vote to many of it's citizens for two straight elections and bullying the world and damaging the strength of our relationships with alies.
Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus![QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Garric001"]
A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on? No I don't th ink there are any pro-obama republicans around here.
TBoogy
Dont forget denying the right to vote to many of it's citizens for two straight elections and bullying the world and damaging the strength of our relationships with alies.
and trying to input religion (abortion, gay rights) into government. Any more ownage? come on OT!i voted obama but i dont trust congress..... congress from both sides = shadow government. jfk was killed for exposing the shadow government
@darklink: Abolishing abortion wouldn't be on any religious grounds.
Oh really? Bush won both elections fair and square.Dont forget denying the right to vote to many of it's citizens for two straight elections.
TBoogy
Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus! -Sun_Tzu-Obama supports wiretapping and it's not domestic wiretapping. If it was domestic, they would be wiretapping U.S. citizens, not terrorist suspects overseas.
Obama supports wiretapping and it's not domestic wiretapping. If it was domestic, they would be wiretapping U.S. citizens, not terrorist suspects overseas.They are wiretapping US citizens. They only have to be suspected of the very broad term 'terrorism'.. At that point the government can storm into your home with no warrant, and detain you for an unlimited time without any contact to the outside, and even torture you. All if you are suspected of 'terrorism'.. The beauty of The Patriot Act.Genetic_Code
I'm a Republican...not necessarily a conservative...
But the more I watch Obama (and not the pundits trashing him--or attempting to defend him), the more I respect him.
I'm not a Democrat, but I'm glad my President is Obama.
Stowik
Keep you head held up high. Don't let the Limbaughs & Hannitys of the world try to put you down.
It's nice to know there are a few Republicans that want our CiC to succeed. :)
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus! Genetic_CodeObama supports wiretapping and it's not domestic wiretapping. If it was domestic, they would be wiretapping U.S. citizens, not terrorist suspects overseas.
Umm, I know what domestic wiretapping is, and that was exactly the type of wiretapping that went on during the Bush Administration.
Well, I like Obama's foreign policy. But with the way he's spending, he is going to double our deficit at least. Perhaps even triple, but I'd rather be optimistic.
A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on?No I don't think there are any pro-obama republicans around here.Garric001Could you elaborate on that?
Liberal Republicans = the enemy within. OP = Benedict Stowik.
Ok, maybe I shouldn't call you Benedict Stowik. But still I don't like liberal Republicans changing up the party mantra. We need an all conservative Republican party or we need to create a new party.
Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus! -Sun_Tzu-
Dont forget denying the right to vote to many of it's citizens for two straight elections and bullying the world and damaging the strength of our relationships with alies.
and trying to input religion (abortion, gay rights) into government. Any more ownage? come on OT! Oddly, enough, out of all the things you guys listed, only the suspension of Habeas Corpus was actually unconstitutional, and it was done by the President that Obama most admires. So put that in your collective pipe and smoke it.i dont support him but i live in a VERY republican area and all of the obama hate gets real old real fast. anytime he comes on tv everybody in my class will scorn and make some terrorist comment. me and the few others around me who fell the same just make a big O with our hands and everybody gives us dirty looks. its pretty fun
Did you even read the article? Neither domestic or wiretapping were even mentioned. If it was domestic, they wouldn't be spying on foreign suspects.Umm, I know what domestic wiretapping is, and that was exactly the type of wiretapping that went on during the Bush Administration.
-Sun_Tzu-
EDIT: Nevermind. I'm the one that didn't properly read the article.
They are wiretapping US citizens. They only have to be suspected of the very broad term 'terrorism'.. At that point the government can storm into your home with no warrant, and detain you for an unlimited time without any contact to the outside, and even torture you. All if you are suspected of 'terrorism'.. The beauty of The Patriot Act. A broad generalization of the abuse of powers. No one knows entirely how much the U.S. has stepped over the line and even if they have, it doesn't change the fact that they're wiretapping foreign suspects.[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"] Obama supports wiretapping and it's not domestic wiretapping. If it was domestic, they would be wiretapping U.S. citizens, not terrorist suspects overseas.
warbmxjohn
[QUOTE="Stowik"]
I'm a Republican...not necessarily a conservative...
But the more I watch Obama (and not the pundits trashing him--or attempting to defend him), the more I respect him.
I'm not a Democrat, but I'm glad my President is Obama.
roulettethedog
I voted for Obama as a liberal Republican, but am starting to regret it as he is spending WAY to much $$$$$$$$$$.
Exactly.
[QUOTE="darkIink"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]and trying to input religion (abortion, gay rights) into government. Any more ownage? come on OT! Oddly, enough, out of all the things you guys listed, only the suspension of Habeas Corpus was actually unconstitutional, and it was done by the President that Obama most admires. So put that in your collective pipe and smoke it.Dont forget denying the right to vote to many of it's citizens for two straight elections and bullying the world and damaging the strength of our relationships with alies.
fidosim
Yes, Abraham Lincoln did suspend Habeas Corpus. The difference between Lincoln and Bush, though, is that Lincoln did so during a civil war...
[QUOTE="Stowik"]
I'm a Republican...not necessarily a conservative...
But the more I watch Obama (and not the pundits trashing him--or attempting to defend him), the more I respect him.
I'm not a Democrat, but I'm glad my President is Obama.
roulettethedog
I voted for Obama as a liberal Republican, but am starting to regret it as he is spending WAY to much $$$$$$$$$$.
If you are a republican, you would not have voted Obama, you would have voted for McCain because he is a republican. Otherwise strip yourself of the name republican and turn into and conservative leaning democrat. There are 2 sides with rep and dem, however you can lean a bit towards conservatism or liberalism.Yeah, the republican party stands for everything this country was founded on...like...uhh... warrantless domestic wiretaps and an unconstitutional denial of habeaus corpus![QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Garric001"]
A pro-obama republican is the ____ kind of person in the world, I feel, ____ than self-hating people. How can you support Obama when he's the exact oposite of what republicans stand for, not to mention on what this country was founded on? No I don't th ink there are any pro-obama republicans around here.
TBoogy
Dont forget denying the right to vote to many of it's citizens for two straight elections and bullying the world and damaging the strength of our relationships with alies.
Um, denying the right to vote for who? The only ones who couldn't vote aren't legal... And if you really wish to speak about damaging the strength of our relationships with allies look up Clinton stating that our democracy is older than england's, Hillary putting the wrong russian word on a button (meaning overcharge instead of reset, then stating "we won't let you do that to us"), or maybe Obama giving the English some movies, probably assuming they haven't seen star wars in England. (Bush gave them an RAF fighter pilot's jacket, its sentimental value...)Ah these bitter republicans never get old.. Perhapes you guys should criticize your own party first, seeing as they are basically imploding.. Contridictory statements, illogical decision making, hypocritical claims, and a absolute cluelessness of what to do.. Its one thing to criticize Obama's plan and provide other alternatives.. Its quite another to prance around and claim he is doing it allwrong and providing no alternative what so ever.. All they have shown is that they are bitter and have no clue what to do either in this environment.. Its sickening too, republican governors not taking the aid.. They seemed to have NO PROBLEM what so ever when we spent amounts of money to the contractors in Iraq (which were ripping us off btw with subpar services) to build THAT countries infastructure up and not ours.. Ironic..
Ah these bitter republicans never get old.. Perhapes you guys should criticize your own party first, seeing as they are basically imploding.. Contridictory statements, illogical decision making, hypocritical claims, and a absolute cluelessness of what to do.. Its one thing to criticize Obama's plan and provide other alternatives.. Its quite another to prance around and claim he is doing it all around and providing no alternative what so ever.. All they have shown is that they are bitter and have no clue what to do either in this environment..sSubZerOoNope, I'd rather bash the other party without evidence... oh wait, that would be what you are doing... hm, maybe I'll just spend more in 2 months than bush did in 8 YEARS, oh wait, nope then I would be Obama... I mean come on, stop whining. I am merely trying to add alternative views to a political discussion but apparently nobody is allowed to criticize B. Hussein Obama(:P)
Oddly, enough, out of all the things you guys listed, only the suspension of Habeas Corpus was actually unconstitutional, and it was done by the President that Obama most admires. So put that in your collective pipe and smoke it.[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="darkIink"] and trying to input religion (abortion, gay rights) into government. Any more ownage? come on OT!chessmaster1989
Yes, Abraham Lincoln did suspend Habeas Corpus. The difference between Lincoln and Bush, though, is that Lincoln did so during a civil war...
Bush didn't suspend habeas corpus though. Lincoln also shut down newpapers that voiced opposition to how he was handling the war and actually had some editors thrown in jail or shipped off to Canada. Can you imagine if Bush did something like that?It happens all the time after elections. We live in a nation of 300 million people, of all kinds of races, creeds, and religions. But we have only two dominant political parties. So naturally when out of power people within said party are going to contradict and debate among eachother about a course of action. Remember some of the quarelling that went on behind the scenes during the Democratic primaries? Also, I don't think any governors have denied all of the money, but they think most of the money allocated in the stimulus bill is not going directly toward creating jobs and helping the economy. Besides, building up Iraq's infrastructure in the long run will make us oil money and give us political leverage in the middle east.Ah these bitter republicans never get old.. Perhapes you guys should criticize your own party first, seeing as they are basically imploding.. Contridictory statements, illogical decision making, hypocritical claims, and a absolute cluelessness of what to do.. Its one thing to criticize Obama's plan and provide other alternatives.. Its quite another to prance around and claim he is doing it allwrong and providing no alternative what so ever.. All they have shown is that they are bitter and have no clue what to do either in this environment.. Its sickening too, republican governors not taking the aid.. They seemed to have NO PROBLEM what so ever when we spent amounts of money to the contractors in Iraq (which were ripping us off btw with subpar services) to build THAT countries infastructure up and not ours.. Ironic..
sSubZerOo
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Ah these bitter republicans never get old.. Perhapes you guys should criticize your own party first, seeing as they are basically imploding.. Contridictory statements, illogical decision making, hypocritical claims, and a absolute cluelessness of what to do.. Its one thing to criticize Obama's plan and provide other alternatives.. Its quite another to prance around and claim he is doing it all around and providing no alternative what so ever.. All they have shown is that they are bitter and have no clue what to do either in this environment..Masterdj1992Nope, I'd rather bash the other party without evidence... oh wait, that would be what you are doing... hm, maybe I'll just spend more in 2 months than bush did in 8 YEARS, oh wait, nope then I would be Obama... I mean come on, stop whining. I am merely trying to add alternative views to a political discussion but apparently nobody is allowed to criticize B. Hussein Obama(:P) .. Reading comprehension.. I never said criticizing is a problem as long as you come up with yoru own ideas.. But you don't furthermore there is plenty of evidence, watch what any of ht eheads of the republican party are saying.. Hell they are even wondering which person they shoul dhave lead the party.. FURTHERMORE, we have governors crying out about supposedly dumb policies like volcano recovery funds.. While at the same time they are ok with hurricane recovery funds for their own states.. I would be far more acceptable but basically this sums up their approach A) Cry out he is spending too much. B) If that doesn't work cry out that he is a socialist.. C) When some one asks about a plan of their own they either loosely claim they hav ea plan in the works or say that Obama is A or B as an answer..
Ah these bitter republicans never get old.. Perhapes you guys should criticize your own party first, seeing as they are basically imploding.. Contridictory statements, illogical decision making, hypocritical claims, and a absolute cluelessness of what to do.. Its one thing to criticize Obama's plan and provide other alternatives.. Its quite another to prance around and claim he is doing it allwrong and providing no alternative what so ever.. All they have shown is that they are bitter and have no clue what to do either in this environment.. Its sickening too, republican governors not taking the aid.. They seemed to have NO PROBLEM what so ever when we spent amounts of money to the contractors in Iraq (which were ripping us off btw with subpar services) to build THAT countries infastructure up and not ours.. Ironic..
It happens all the time after elections. We live in a nation of 300 million people, of all kinds of races, creeds, and religions. But we have only two dominant political parties. So naturally when out of power people within said party are going to contradict and debate among eachother about a course of action. Remember some of the quarelling that went on behind the scenes during the Democratic primaries? Also, I don't think any governors have denied all of the money, but they think most of the money allocated in the stimulus bill is not going directly toward creating jobs and helping the economy. Besides, building up Iraq's infrastructure in the long run will make us oil money and give us political leverage in the middle east. Palin has already refused to have money given to her state, money that would help the specially ed portion of their state.. Louisana govnor has refused to have 100 million of the 1.1 billion of th emoney given to him.. A state that has already gotten tons of money after Katrina, I guess that 1 billion was too tempting.. But that 1.1 billion is crossing the line..Please Log In to post.
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