Again, I've never done that. Its ok, lets not blow your cover. Heres to hope, that the guardian will come to sense and show these facts to, aye. I'm sensing a little hypocrisy right now. You said "Its simple, people like you believe what ever you want to believe, because you can't handle the truth so you call them conspiracy nuts." And yet you are doing the same exact thing by ignoring anything that says to the contrary to what you want to believe; albeit I ignore unsourced youtube videos, while you ignore widely respected news sources.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]Ok, but when people quote him, or try to argue what he argues all the time, you call them conspiracy nuts. I see no difference.
Mind_Mover
Any other Pro-Obama Republicans Out There?
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[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]Its ok, lets not blow your cover. Heres to hope, that the guardian will come to sense and show these facts to, aye. I'm sensing a little hypocrisy right now. You said "Its simple, people like you believe what ever you want to believe, because you can't handle the truth so you call them conspiracy nuts." And yet you are doing the same exact thing by ignoring anything that says to the contrary to what you want to believe; albeit I ignore unsourced youtube videos, while you ignore widely respected news sources. I'm not ignoring anything. Its fine that you ignore a youtube video, but if you were to look for the sources i'm sure you would find plenty, but its youtube, so lets ignore it completely :roll:[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Again, I've never done that. -Sun_Tzu-
I'm sensing a little hypocrisy right now. You said "Its simple, people like you believe what ever you want to believe, because you can't handle the truth so you call them conspiracy nuts." And yet you are doing the same exact thing by ignoring anything that says to the contrary to what you want to believe; albeit I ignore unsourced youtube videos, while you ignore widely respected news sources. I'm not ignoring anything. Its fine that you ignore a youtube video, but if you were to look for the sources i'm sure you would find plenty, but its youtube, so lets ignore it completely :roll: I never said I ignore every single youtube video. There are some great informative videos that are available on the site. I only ignore those youtube videos that are unsourced. Things like Zeitgeist, Loose Change, and the stuff by Alex Jones, which virtually always just flat out lie and/or misinterpret quotes and facts.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]Its ok, lets not blow your cover. Heres to hope, that the guardian will come to sense and show these facts to, aye.
Mind_Mover
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]I'm not ignoring anything. Its fine that you ignore a youtube video, but if you were to look for the sources i'm sure you would find plenty, but its youtube, so lets ignore it completely :roll: I never said I ignore every single youtube video. There are some great informative videos that are available on the site. I only ignore those youtube videos that are unsourced. Things like Zeitgeist, Loose Change, and the stuff by Alex Jones, which virtually always just flat out lie and/or misinterpret quotes and facts. A flat out lie is WTC7 falling the way it did because or "fire and debris", the government which have lied soooo much over these years, still manage to convince people. The government is the worst source of them all. Professionals all over the world are always facepalming at peoples stupidity, and rightfully so.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I'm sensing a little hypocrisy right now. You said "Its simple, people like you believe what ever you want to believe, because you can't handle the truth so you call them conspiracy nuts." And yet you are doing the same exact thing by ignoring anything that says to the contrary to what you want to believe; albeit I ignore unsourced youtube videos, while you ignore widely respected news sources. -Sun_Tzu-
I never said I ignore every single youtube video. There are some great informative videos that are available on the site. I only ignore those youtube videos that are unsourced. Things like Zeitgeist, Loose Change, and the stuff by Alex Jones, which virtually always just flat out lie and/or misinterpret quotes and facts. A flat out lie is WTC7 falling the way it did because or "fire and debris", the government which have lied soooo much over these years, still manage to convince people. The government is the worst source of them all. Professionals all over the world are always facepalming at peoples stupidity, and rightfully so. And yet who is the man who's word you take as gospel? Ron Paul, a government official. A government official, I might add, who has explicitly stated that there is no evidence what so ever that the government was behind 9/11. And the reason WTC 7 did collapse was because of fire and debris. As I have already stated, conspiracy theories are created to simplify the complex, the hard-to-understand, and the incomprehensible.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]I'm not ignoring anything. Its fine that you ignore a youtube video, but if you were to look for the sources i'm sure you would find plenty, but its youtube, so lets ignore it completely :roll:
Mind_Mover
Whaa? I really don't get what you are trying to say. The democratic party doesn't want to repeal the 2nd amendment. The democratic party is fine with the idea of people owning guns. Most liberals (at least in the U.S.) are fine with the 2nd amendment. But all of this gun stuff is a huge straw man and completely irrelevant, and doesn't take away from the fact in any way that the Bush Administration unconstitutionally denied habeas corpus through the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and illegally obtained information about regular American civilians through the Patriot Act.liberals would like nothing more than the disarming of american gunowners, and ya don't get what i'm trying to say? you say it's not ok for the bush administrartion to mess with constitutionals rights but ok for obama. this is just the beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKLXCHgOiA[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]hypocricy is hypocricy, you liberals wouldn't know what to do without your liberal propaganda rags like newsweek, time, us and countless others. so you don't think people should be able to own guns eh, sounds about right. and your statement about unconstitutional actionscontradicts itself.
iwilson1296
If I have to hear this crap one more time, I'll honestly contemplate suicide.
No one is taking your guns away, all that people want is to strongly regulate them. You know, no assault weapons, background checks, etc. Do you really need assault weapons? Are you really that upset about waiting a month or so to buy a gun? Obama has never once stated that he wants to completely ban gun ownership, and no one probably will. Give it a rest.
A flat out lie is WTC7 falling the way it did because or "fire and debris", the government which have lied soooo much over these years, still manage to convince people. The government is the worst source of them all. Professionals all over the world are always facepalming at peoples stupidity, and rightfully so. And yet who is the man who's word you take as gospel? Ron Paul, a government official. A government official, I might add, who has explicitly stated that there is no evidence what so ever that the government was behind 9/11. And the reason WTC 7 did collapse was because of fire and debris. As I have already stated, conspiracy theories are created to simplify the complex, the hard-to-understand, and the incomprehensible.That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say.[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I never said I ignore every single youtube video. There are some great informative videos that are available on the site. I only ignore those youtube videos that are unsourced. Things like Zeitgeist, Loose Change, and the stuff by Alex Jones, which virtually always just flat out lie and/or misinterpret quotes and facts. -Sun_Tzu-
And yet who is the man who's word you take as gospel? Ron Paul, a government official. A government official, I might add, who has explicitly stated that there is no evidence what so ever that the government was behind 9/11. And the reason WTC 7 did collapse was because of fire and debris. As I have already stated, conspiracy theories are created to simplify the complex, the hard-to-understand, and the incomprehensible.That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say. Alright, leave the U.S. then. /argument[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]A flat out lie is WTC7 falling the way it did because or "fire and debris", the government which have lied soooo much over these years, still manage to convince people. The government is the worst source of them all. Professionals all over the world are always facepalming at peoples stupidity, and rightfully so.
Mind_Mover
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say. Alright, leave the U.S. then. /argumentHeh. No, i'd rather fight you than leave my country.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And yet who is the man who's word you take as gospel? Ron Paul, a government official. A government official, I might add, who has explicitly stated that there is no evidence what so ever that the government was behind 9/11. And the reason WTC 7 did collapse was because of fire and debris. As I have already stated, conspiracy theories are created to simplify the complex, the hard-to-understand, and the incomprehensible.
mfacek
Alright, leave the U.S. then. /argumentHeh. No, i'd rather fight you than leave my country. Lol, you're going to fight me?[QUOTE="mfacek"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say.
Mind_Mover
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]Heh. No, i'd rather fight you than leave my country. Lol, you're going to fight me?If you came up to my face and said "leave my country" sure, i'd fight you np.[QUOTE="mfacek"] Alright, leave the U.S. then. /argumentmfacek
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]If you came up to my face and said "leave my country" sure, i'd fight you np. I lol'd pretty hard.Yeah me too lol, you are from Illinois :shock:, funny because i live here to. I'm gonna send you a PM.[QUOTE="mfacek"] Lol, you're going to fight me?mfacek
I lol'd pretty hard.Yeah me too lol, you are from Illinois :shock:, funny because i live here to. I'm gonna send you a PM. Are we going to coordinate a fight time? Hows 3:30 by the swing set work for you?[QUOTE="mfacek"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]If you came up to my face and said "leave my country" sure, i'd fight you np.
Mind_Mover
And yet who is the man who's word you take as gospel? Ron Paul, a government official. A government official, I might add, who has explicitly stated that there is no evidence what so ever that the government was behind 9/11. And the reason WTC 7 did collapse was because of fire and debris. As I have already stated, conspiracy theories are created to simplify the complex, the hard-to-understand, and the incomprehensible.That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say. *sigh* what. are. you. talking. about. The age of the article is irrelevant, seeing as nothing has come up from then to now that suggests that the government was behind 9/11. And the "secret government" that he likes to refer to is just the Federal Reserve, and they aren't really that secret, and the term "secret government" is really just fancy rhetoric to demean an establishment that he is against. And by "paul shiff" do you mean Peter Schiff, who was one of Paul's economic advisers during his campaign? He wasn't the only one to predict the recent economic turmoil, in fact, one of Obama's own economic advisers during the campaign, who has a much more prestigous resume than that of Peter Schiff, also predicted that the economy could face a situation like the one we find ourselves in today.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]A flat out lie is WTC7 falling the way it did because or "fire and debris", the government which have lied soooo much over these years, still manage to convince people. The government is the worst source of them all. Professionals all over the world are always facepalming at peoples stupidity, and rightfully so.
Mind_Mover
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]Yeah me too lol, you are from Illinois :shock:, funny because i live here to. I'm gonna send you a PM. Are we going to coordinate a fight time? Hows 3:30 by the swing set work for you?:lol: well, i was going to send you a friendly PM but glitchspot wont let me. Either way sure haha, you wanna fight me because you think you have more rights to be in America than i do? sure :lol: However it would be kind of incoveniant if you are under 18.[QUOTE="mfacek"] I lol'd pretty hard.mfacek
That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say. *sigh* what. are. you. talking. about. The age of the article is irrelevant, seeing as nothing has come up from then to now that suggests that the government was behind 9/11. And the "secret government" that he likes to refer to is just the Federal Reserve, and they aren't really that secret, and the term "secret government" is really just fancy rhetoric to demean an establishment that he is against. And by "paul shiff" do you mean Peter Schiff, who was one of Paul's economic advisers during his campaign? He wasn't the only one to predict the recent economic turmoil, in fact, one of Obama's own economic advisers during the campaign, who has a much more prestigous resume than that of Peter Schiff, also predicted that the economy could face a situation like the one we find ourselves in today.If that is true then how come the government just let this happen? you don't think soemthing bigger is brewing up? the federal reserve, big companies (AIG) and banks are all to blame, yet no one does anything to them. You'd think congress and the people running our government should have all been thrown out by now, but sadly, no.[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And yet who is the man who's word you take as gospel? Ron Paul, a government official. A government official, I might add, who has explicitly stated that there is no evidence what so ever that the government was behind 9/11. And the reason WTC 7 did collapse was because of fire and debris. As I have already stated, conspiracy theories are created to simplify the complex, the hard-to-understand, and the incomprehensible.
-Sun_Tzu-
*sigh* what. are. you. talking. about. The age of the article is irrelevant, seeing as nothing has come up from then to now that suggests that the government was behind 9/11. And the "secret government" that he likes to refer to is just the Federal Reserve, and they aren't really that secret, and the term "secret government" is really just fancy rhetoric to demean an establishment that he is against. And by "paul shiff" do you mean Peter Schiff, who was one of Paul's economic advisers during his campaign? He wasn't the only one to predict the recent economic turmoil, in fact, one of Obama's own economic advisers during the campaign, who has a much more prestigous resume than that of Peter Schiff, also predicted that the economy could face a situation like the one we find ourselves in today.If that is true then how come the government just let this happen? you don't think soemthing bigger is brewing up? the federal reserve, big companies (AIG) and banks are all to blame, yet no one does anything to them. You'd think congress and the people running our government should have all been thrown out by now, but sadly, no. The federal reserve under ALAN GREENSPAN is to blame, but Alan Greenspan isn't chairman of the federal reserve anymore. The reason the government just "let this happen" was because they didn't think that anything needed to change. There is a stark difference between a incompetent government and a "secret, conspiracy government". And to say nothing has been done to the financial system is wrong. The CEO of AIG has been replaced, the house passed a bill that would tax 90% of the AIG bonuses, and Obama wants to cap the salary of executives of banks who accept bailout money.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]That article is two years old, Ron Paul is convinced that there is an organized group of people who are the ones controlling our government. Even one of his co workers, Paul shiff predicted some time ago that we would be in this financial situation, but, people ignored him, government told everyone it was BS, and now look what is happening, the very same people who created this mess are still in power, i wonder the hell why? its because Obama is just a puppet and has no real say.
Mind_Mover
If that is true then how come the government just let this happen? you don't think soemthing bigger is brewing up? the federal reserve, big companies (AIG) and banks are all to blame, yet no one does anything to them. You'd think congress and the people running our government should have all been thrown out by now, but sadly, no. The federal reserve under ALAN GREENSPAN is to blame, but Alan Greenspan isn't chairman of the federal reserve anymore. The reason the government just "let this happen" was because they didn't think that anything needed to change. There is a stark difference between a incompetent government and a "secret, conspiracy government". And to say nothing has been done to the financial system is wrong. The CEO of AIG has been replaced, the house passed a bill that would tax 90% of the AIG bonuses, and Obama wants to cap the salary of executives of banks who accept bailout money.The government didn't think that anything needed to change, clearly they were wrong, clearly they don't deserve to be trusted anymore. The same people in the Obama administration are the same people that have been in government for decades, something is not right. There are even talks of Colin powell being recruited by Obama, a man alongside bush, who lied in our faces. How can you not see anything wrong with that?[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] *sigh* what. are. you. talking. about. The age of the article is irrelevant, seeing as nothing has come up from then to now that suggests that the government was behind 9/11. And the "secret government" that he likes to refer to is just the Federal Reserve, and they aren't really that secret, and the term "secret government" is really just fancy rhetoric to demean an establishment that he is against. And by "paul shiff" do you mean Peter Schiff, who was one of Paul's economic advisers during his campaign? He wasn't the only one to predict the recent economic turmoil, in fact, one of Obama's own economic advisers during the campaign, who has a much more prestigous resume than that of Peter Schiff, also predicted that the economy could face a situation like the one we find ourselves in today.
-Sun_Tzu-
The federal reserve under ALAN GREENSPAN is to blame, but Alan Greenspan isn't chairman of the federal reserve anymore. The reason the government just "let this happen" was because they didn't think that anything needed to change. There is a stark difference between a incompetent government and a "secret, conspiracy government". And to say nothing has been done to the financial system is wrong. The CEO of AIG has been replaced, the house passed a bill that would tax 90% of the AIG bonuses, and Obama wants to cap the salary of executives of banks who accept bailout money.The government didn't think that anything needed to change, clearly they were wrong, clearly they don't deserve to be trusted anymore. The same people in the Obama administration are the same people that have been in government for decades, something is not right. There are even talks of Colin powell being recruited by Obama, a man alongside bush, who lied in our faces. How can you not see anything wrong with that? Ugh...The philosophy of the government is not homogeneous. It's not like the government is one entity that has one opinion. Most of the main contributors to the economic crisis aren't in government anymore. And Colin Powell was one of the few people in the Bush Administration who was against the Iraq War and was virtually never listened to by Bush. What you are doing is putting a nice big blanket of evil over the entire government, which is just ridiculously irrational and illogical.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]If that is true then how come the government just let this happen? you don't think soemthing bigger is brewing up? the federal reserve, big companies (AIG) and banks are all to blame, yet no one does anything to them. You'd think congress and the people running our government should have all been thrown out by now, but sadly, no.
Mind_Mover
Not surprised to find some pro-Obama republicans around. He is, after all, continuing a great deal of the Bush platform over the last 8 years.
[QUOTE="iwilson1296"] you say it's not ok for the bush administrartion to mess with constitutionals rights but ok for obama.-Sun_Tzu-Never said that... "I don't see how the unconstitutional actions of one party justify the unconstitutional actions of another." this is what you said...it was implied actually.
liberals would like nothing more than the disarming of american gunowners, and ya don't get what i'm trying to say? you say it's not ok for the bush administrartion to mess with constitutionals rights but ok for obama. this is just the beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKLXCHgOiA[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Whaa? I really don't get what you are trying to say. The democratic party doesn't want to repeal the 2nd amendment. The democratic party is fine with the idea of people owning guns. Most liberals (at least in the U.S.) are fine with the 2nd amendment. But all of this gun stuff is a huge straw man and completely irrelevant, and doesn't take away from the fact in any way that the Bush Administration unconstitutionally denied habeas corpus through the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and illegally obtained information about regular American civilians through the Patriot Act.
mfacek
If I have to hear this crap one more time, I'll honestly contemplate suicide.
No one is taking your guns away, all that people want is to strongly regulate them. You know, no assault weapons, background checks, etc. Do you really need assault weapons? Are you really that upset about waiting a month or so to buy a gun? Obama has never once stated that he wants to completely ban gun ownership, and no one probably will. Give it a rest.
like i said, it's just the beginning. start regulating a little here , a little more there. it's not whether i NEED assault weapons but the fact that i should legally be able to own one without the government telling me if i can or not, and the "assault weapon" label is being used more and more because it soundsscarier when it really applies to most semiautomatic guns (like most pistols are). gun control doesn't do a damn thing sept make it harder for regular people to own a firearm and gives the government more power over you. obviously you don't think this is a big deal, maybe when we end up like australia ya mightcare a little more, or maybe not. you might as well commit suicide , just be sure you have permission from the government first.Never said that... "I don't see how the unconstitutional actions of one party justify the unconstitutional actions of another." this is what you said...it was implied actually. Umm, what :? If anything that implies that I am against any attempt to unconstitutionally ban guns, the same way I am against warrantless domestic wiretapping and an unconstitutional suspension of habeas corpus.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="iwilson1296"] you say it's not ok for the bush administrartion to mess with constitutionals rights but ok for obama.iwilson1296
That's nice. Too bad the democratic party doesn't want to ban the 2nd amendment. But even if they did, I don't see how the unconstitutional actions of one party justify the unconstitutional actions of another.hypocricy is hypocricy, you liberals wouldn't know what to do without your liberal propaganda rags like newsweek, time, us and countless others. so you don't think people should be able to own guns eh, sounds about right. and your statement about unconstitutional actionscontradicts itself.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]
[QUOTE="iwilson1296"] right and remember the right to bear arms? yeah, take every taxpaying americans guns away but don't dare mess with freedom of speech, don't believe everything the liberal media says, their obama mega-asskissing campaign is one of the main reasons he's president.
iwilson1296
And you conservatives keep regurgitation Limbaugh talking points and you'll never understand why you lost so badly on Nov 4th :)
I prefer to focus on fiscal conservatism, because big government spending has never solved anything.hokies1313Except, of course, for inventing nuclear power, the jet engine, space travel, the internet, GPS, and for building our highways and rail system, dams, and bridges, and let's not forget environmental protection, our national parks, and regulations and bureaus that protect us at work and from products that we use every day.
[QUOTE="hokies1313"]I prefer to focus on fiscal conservatism, because big government spending has never solved anything.Engrish_MajorExcept, of course, for inventing nuclear power, the jet engine, space travel, the internet, and for building our highways and rail system, dams, and bridges. to be fair, our infastructure is pretty nasty. im alright with government doing projects like you brought up(ie internet, space travel) but i think the free market can do them better, e specially over time.
to be fair, our infastructure is pretty nasty. im alright with government doing projects like you brought up(ie internet, space travel) but i think the free market can do them better, e specially over time.OT_RageThe fact is, companies simply can not (or will not) pay for large projects such as bridges, dams, and freeways, not to mention public transit in every city in the country, because they are a) prohibitively expensive, and b) not profit-making ventures.
[QUOTE="OT_Rage"]to be fair, our infastructure is pretty nasty. im alright with government doing projects like you brought up(ie internet, space travel) but i think the free market can do them better, e specially over time.Engrish_MajorThe fact is, companies simply can not (or will not) pay for large projects such as bridges, dams, and freeways, not to mention public transit in every city in the country, because they are a) prohibitively expensive, and b) not profit-making ventures. depends, there are private toll roads and such. the problem with toll roads, is that theyre often left up to state governments as to wheterh they can exist or not. You really cant say if private enterprise can do it, because you or I have never let it try.
hypocricy is hypocricy, you liberals wouldn't know what to do without your liberal propaganda rags like newsweek, time, us and countless others. so you don't think people should be able to own guns eh, sounds about right. and your statement about unconstitutional actionscontradicts itself.[QUOTE="iwilson1296"]
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] That's nice. Too bad the democratic party doesn't want to ban the 2nd amendment. But even if they did, I don't see how the unconstitutional actions of one party justify the unconstitutional actions of another.
LosDaddie
And you conservatives keep regurgitation Limbaugh talking points and you'll never understand why you lost so badly on Nov 4th :)
i never regurgitated limbaugh as i see him as a fatass hyprocrite who just says what people wanna hear, makes alot of conservatives look badi do find it amusing that all those liberal propaganda magazines and media make obama out to be the greatest thing ever created by humanDNA even though he hasn't done a damn thing to earn it, i mean at least give him creditif and when it's due. critisize anything and everything conservative ,oh but look how great the obamas look in thier cute outfits, and they really love each other,nothing but constant ass kissing.let's make plates and coins after the guy, even thinking about creating a holiday. show how much people are easily brainwashed by the media. don't think for a second that obama got himself elected on his own.
[QUOTE="OT_Rage"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]complete and utter contradiction of ideals. You're thinking too deep. It's someone who is attracted to cult of personality candidates.How is that possible?
bt_the_great_78
Ron Paul (R): Limited Government.
Barrack Obama (D): Big Government.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/332spljz.asp
I'm just waiting for the next election.:roll:
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