Are DBZ, Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach as bad as people say they are?

So I've seen a lot of dislike towards these series, and it just makes me curious. Are they really as bad as people say they are?

Not to me. I don't care what people say I love em. Especially One Piece.

I don't think that people dislike One Piece or DBZ in particular, just that the OT isn't really into those type of animes. Kind of reminds me of the rock topics and how the most critically acclaimed out now (U2, Coldplay) aren't mentioned. I doubt I would find many who would say that those two bands are generic or bad here in the OT, same for One Piece and DBZ.

Haven't read Bleach, but those are really good at what they try to do - give you a bunch of fights.

One Piece was pretty fun from what little I watched of it, DBZ is bad, haven't watched any of the other two (but Naruto looks really bad).chessmaster1989

What makes the others so bad? Just curious.

One Piece was pretty fun from what little I watched of it, DBZ is bad, haven't watched any of the other two (but Naruto looks really bad).chessmaster1989

ppl who say dbz is bad either 1. has horrible taste 2. Neglected childhood 3. Trolling There can be no other reason.campzor

You're gonna need a flame shield, buddy.

DBZ, One Piece and Naruto aren't

Bleach just... Tite clearly makes crap up as he goes and bleach has sooooo many plotholes and 3 arcs had the SAME THING with ichijo losing his powers with two BACK TO BACK

fueled-system

Naruto is pushing 100+ filler episodes... And the character himself is insultingly stupid. Every event, that includes Naruto, is explained multiple times at toddler level comprehension for his dim ass to get it.

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DBZ, One Piece and Naruto aren't

Bleach just... Tite clearly makes crap up as he goes and bleach has sooooo many plotholes and 3 arcs had the SAME THING with ichijo losing his powers with two BACK TO BACK

Inconsistancy

Naruto is pushing 100+ filler episodes... And the character himself is insultingly stupid. Every event, that includes Naruto, is explained multiple times at toddler level comprehension for his dim ass to get it.

My friends were having a DBZ marathon when we was all gathered this one time. I was on my PSP but as I looked over to the TV I realized that not only did it take this guy like 4 whole episodes to power up, but the guy he killed came back like 5 times. It looked unrealistically boring and stupid.

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DBZ, One Piece and Naruto aren't

Bleach just... Tite clearly makes crap up as he goes and bleach has sooooo many plotholes and 3 arcs had the SAME THING with ichijo losing his powers with two BACK TO BACK

fueled-system

Naruto is pushing 100+ filler episodes... And the character himself is insultingly stupid. Every event, that includes Naruto, is explained multiple times at toddler level comprehension for his dim ass to get it.

Naruto is pushing 100+ filler episodes... And the character himself is insultingly stupid. Every event, that includes Naruto, is explained multiple times at toddler level comprehension for his dim ass to get it.

I love DBZ, like Bleach, am a passing fan of Naruto's battle scenes, and can't stand One Piece.

Overall, no, they're not.

My friends were having a DBZ marathon when we was all gathered this one time. I was on my PSP but as I looked over to the TV I realized that not only did it take this guy like 4 whole episodes to power up, but the guy he killed came back like 5 times. It looked unrealistically boring and stupid.

sune_Gem

Don't judge it based off the anime version, at least not the original. DBZ Kai gets rid of most of the pointless powering up and screaming scenes, and the manga barely has any.

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My friends were having a DBZ marathon when we was all gathered this one time. I was on my PSP but as I looked over to the TV I realized that not only did it take this guy like 4 whole episodes to power up, but the guy he killed came back like 5 times. It looked unrealistically boring and stupid.

Brawl578

Don't judge it based off the anime version, at least not the original. DBZ Kai gets rid of most of the pointless powering up and screaming scenes, and the manga barely has any.

I've never been huge on anime, so the appeal was lessened greatly.

DBZ is good, provided you stick with the Z series and only expect awesome fighting with a story just decent enough to hold it together (aka not that deep), and Naruto is very good. Lots of backstories that really get you to feel for all the characters (both villains and heroes), but beware a lot of the beginning episodes Naruto is quite annoying. He get's better as the show progresses, but pretty cringeworthy stuff from him early on.

Edit. I really have zero experience with the other two animes you mentioned.

[QUOTE="campzor"]ppl who say dbz is bad either 1. has horrible taste 2. Neglected childhood 3. Trolling There can be no other reason.Brawl578

You're gonna need a flame shield, buddy.

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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

My friends were having a DBZ marathon when we was all gathered this one time. I was on my PSP but as I looked over to the TV I realized that not only did it take this guy like 4 whole episodes to power up, but the guy he killed came back like 5 times. It looked unrealistically boring and stupid.

sune_Gem

Don't judge it based off the anime version, at least not the original. DBZ Kai gets rid of most of the pointless powering up and screaming scenes, and the manga barely has any.

I've never been huge on anime, so the appeal was lessened greatly.

I understand, I'm not a major anime fan myself. I just thought I'd let you know that DBZ isn't as bad as the original version of it made it seem.

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My friends were having a DBZ marathon when we was all gathered this one time. I was on my PSP but as I looked over to the TV I realized that not only did it take this guy like 4 whole episodes to power up, but the guy he killed came back like 5 times. It looked unrealistically boring and stupid.

Brawl578

Don't judge it based off the anime version, at least not the original. DBZ Kai gets rid of most of the pointless powering up and screaming scenes, and the manga barely has any.

Yes they are. I've said it beofre, but Bleach is fun to read just to see what Kubo will pull next.

Im 23 and I love those shows. I don't care if they're considered for kids. They are awesome :D

Considering all of those are intended for kids and rather early teens it is normal for people older to not have the same appreciation. I watched DBZ in the late 80s and early 90s with english subs. It was entertaining then since I was in that age group. DBZ, One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach only age well with you if you refuse to.CreasianDevaili

Shonen manga/anime like this are intended to have a really broad audience. Saying that they are intended just for kids and young teens is pretty wrong.

Here's a pie chart of the readership of One Piece, adults are 88%, just saying.

Dragon Ball Z was so enjoyable when I was younger, but than I just realized its soooooooooooooo corny lolSocialist696

Yes they are. I've said it beofre, but Bleach is fun to read just to see what Kubo will pull next.

Lord_Omikron666

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Yes they are. I've said it beofre, but Bleach is fun to read just to see what Kubo will pull next.

fueled-system

DBZ is good, provided you stick with the Z series and only expect awesome fighting with a story just decent enough to hold it together (aka not that deep), and Naruto is very good. Lots of backstories that really get you to feel for all the characters (both villains and heroes), but beware a lot of the beginning episodes Naruto is quite annoying. He get's better as the show progresses, but pretty cringeworthy stuff from him early on.

Edit. I really have zero experience with the other two animes you mentioned.

Serraph105

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Yes they are. I've said it beofre, but Bleach is fun to read just to see what Kubo will pull next.

Lord_Omikron666

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Considering all of those are intended for kids and rather early teens it is normal for people older to not have the same appreciation. I watched DBZ in the late 80s and early 90s with english subs. It was entertaining then since I was in that age group. DBZ, One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach only age well with you if you refuse to.Yangire

Shonen manga/anime like this are intended to have a really broad audience. Saying that they are intended just for kids and young teens is pretty wrong.

Here's a pie chart of the readership of One Piece, adults are 88%, just saying.

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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]Kubo did great with his most recent twist that contradicted the whole entire previous arcfueled-system

Bleach, bad? What the...meconate

bleach sucks, and it shows in sales.

its not even in the top 10 anymore.

one piece is amazing, great well thought out story, avoids the "power of friendship trope" and excellent fight scenes.

DBZ is DBZ

the entire point of naruto seems to be to get your hopes up and then smash them later.

bleach just plain sucks, its not even popular in japan anymore, glad its canceled.

however Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is the best manga ever.

I don't think Bleach is cancelled. The anime was. Not the manga. CreasianDevaili

Nope kibo is being forced to end the series after this arc do to massive drop in sales (from number 3 to around 13-15).

[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]I don't think Bleach is cancelled. The anime was. Not the manga. frannkzappa

Nope kibo is being forced to end the series after this arc do to massive drop in sales (from number 3 to around 13-15).

I stopped watching the anime to Naruto a long time ago but the manga is still fun to read.

DBZ is DBZ. I still have fun watching it from time to time (whether it's the original or Kai).

One Piece anime and manga are good. Long but still entertaining. I like where it's going right now and I also find it consistent compared to Naruto and Bleach.

Bleach is awful. I'm not surprised the anime was cancelled.

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I find Naruto to be simply horrible, Bleach was good at a point but overstayed its welcome, and One Piece is just okay...funnily enough I've never watched DBZ. Thing is that there are tons of shows which deserve way more praise than those four titles so that might be where peoples hatred of them stems from

I don't think any of the 4 are flat out bad. I've seen way worse anime.

In fact, I started out liking Bleach, DBZ, and Naruto for about the first 50-100 or so episodes. But they are all way too long, cliched, and riddled with too many useless fillers.Some of them also suffer from some plot holes and inconsistensies later down the line. Oh and how about them Deus ex machinas....

DBZ gets a speacial place in people's hearts though, because its the grandaddy of all long, drawn out, convulted shonen anime. It simply did it first and people ate it up.