Are you offended by Christianity?

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

MayorJohnny

Because religious fundamentalists in this very country oare intent on dumbing down our own children, thus making them less likely to be major players on the world stage.

Because there are very powerful forces at work trying to drag our country back intellectually into the dark ages, simply because the idea of science and progress is offensive to them.

You're acting as if people haven't been battling in the courts over these kinds of things.

I am only offended when Christians put their religious beliefs where they don't belong, such as politics and other people's personal lives. Simply put, when they tell other people that their way of things is the way it should be done.

I have friends who are Christian, I have family that is Christian, they never mention it to me and I am just fine. When Christians on here say that homosexuals/gay marriage shouldn't happen because the Bible says its wrong, or the Creationism/Evolution arguments, that's when it becomes offensive.

Actually, when I think about it, one of the Brothers that ran the highschool I went to (A catholic school), used to say that 'this is wrong, that's not right' when it was merely his opinion on trivial issues. I found that... annoying to say the least.

It doesn't offend me. For the most part, it teaches a lot of good things. But its the people who take it too far, religious fanatics, that annoy me.

I respect anyone and everyone's religion on the basis that you don't try to force yours on me.

Because religious fundamentalists in this very country oare intent on dumbing down our own children, thus making them less likely to be major players on the world stage.

Because there are very powerful forces at work trying to drag our country back intellectually into the dark ages, simply because the idea of science and progress is offensive to them.

You're acting as if people haven't been battling in the courts over these kinds of things.

MrGeezer

I'm offended by "Christians" and I'm a Christian... figure that one out.

I don't like how many claim to be Christians but live their life in complete contrast to how the Bible says for them to live... I love what the Gospel stands for and for the Word of God. Through that, I seek to witness to not only the nonbelievers but those who claim to be Christians.

I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.linkthewindow

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.Tylendal

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

no, as long as you dont try to convert me :shock:

i repect those who keep their beliefs to themselves

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[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.gobo212

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.Tylendal

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

Those wars were started by men... Did the religion tell them to go kill?

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.Tylendal

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

*face to palm*

Just because the people who are fighting are religious does not mean the religion is the problem... People are going to fight each other regardless of whether they are religious because we are all human...

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.Tylendal

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

To say it is simply because of religion is incorrect I think. Christianity preaches peace and love (even if it also preaches conversion of others). It isn't the doctrines of these religions that is the problem, it's the interpretation of these doctrines by many followers that is the problem. Many non-religious people hold similar militant views so you can't blame religion solely. There is nothing inherently wrong with a belief in God but that often becomes corrupted.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.mindstorm

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

*face to palm*

Just because the people who are fighting are religious does not mean the religion is the problem... People are going to fight each other regardless of whether they are religious because we are all human...

Religion is the catalyst, and the inspiration. Why do you think there is so much fighting in Jerusalem? It's because of religion.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.gobo212

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

To say it is simply because of religion is incorrect I think. Christianity preaches peace and love (even if it also preaches conversion of others). It isn't the doctrines of these religions that is the problem, it's the interpretation of these doctrines by many followers that is the problem. Many non-religious people hold similar militant views so you can't blame religion solely. There is nothing inherently wrong with a belief in God but that often becomes corrupted.

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction".

These don't sound like there is very many different ways you could interpret this.

The only part of christianity I don't like is when they push it in other people's faces, and treat people who believe differently like their horrible retards. Give everyone their own space.Morphic

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]I respect all religions, on the condition that they don't discriminate and promote violence.Tylendal

And that leaves how many? Seriously. :|

That leaves nearly all religions but certainly not any where near all religious people.

Well, I know it rules out Christianity and its relatives. There are far too many civil wars started because of religion.

To say it is simply because of religion is incorrect I think. Christianity preaches peace and love (even if it also preaches conversion of others). It isn't the doctrines of these religions that is the problem, it's the interpretation of these doctrines by many followers that is the problem. Many non-religious people hold similar militant views so you can't blame religion solely. There is nothing inherently wrong with a belief in God but that often becomes corrupted.

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction".

These don't sound like there is very many different ways you could interpret this.

That's from the bible I assume (I'm no theologian)? I still think the basic tenants of these religions is to do good and be tolerant but you of course can't take everything written in these texts as completely literal. The author of that passage may have meant it in a literal way but the holy scripts were written by different people in different times and I think that like any good piece of literature (yes I think of the bible more as literature than the actual word of God because it is pretty indisputable that people wrote it) you need to interpret what is going on by the context and the intent of the text rather than the literal meaning. Of course this is at odds with fundamentalists but I think that is exactly my point.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction".

These don't sound like there is very many different ways you could interpret this.

gobo212

That's from the bible I assume (I'm no theologian)? I still think the basic tenants of these religions is to do good and be tolerant but you of course can't take everything written in these texts as completely literal. The author of that passage may have meant it in a literal way but the holy scripts were written by different people in different times and I think that like any good piece of literature (yes I think of the bible more as literature than the actual word of God because it is pretty indisputable that people wrote it) you need to interpret what is going on by the context and the intent of the text rather than the literal meaning. Of course this is at odds with fundamentalists but I think that is exactly my point.

Please tell me how your could find a benevolent meaning in this. I could do with a laugh, because anything you come up with will be seriously grasping for straws. No matter how you look at it, this is "discriminating, and promoting violence".

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction".

These don't sound like there is very many different ways you could interpret this.

Tylendal

That's from the bible I assume (I'm no theologian)? I still think the basic tenants of these religions is to do good and be tolerant but you of course can't take everything written in these texts as completely literal. The author of that passage may have meant it in a literal way but the holy scripts were written by different people in different times and I think that like any good piece of literature (yes I think of the bible more as literature than the actual word of God because it is pretty indisputable that people wrote it) you need to interpret what is going on by the context and the intent of the text rather than the literal meaning. Of course this is at odds with fundamentalists but I think that is exactly my point.

Please tell me how your could find a benevolent meaning in this. I could do with a laugh, because anything you come up with will be seriously grasping for straws. No matter how you look at it, this is "discriminating, and promoting violence".

Well obviously if one takes this literally (can you post the actual passage this is from BTW?) it is promoting violence. What I am saying is that if this is from the new testament it goes against the teachings of Jesus (I could be proven wrong here, and believe it or not I rather enjoy being proven wrong) and instead promotes violence against unbelievers which I don't think people who espouse true Christian ideals espouse.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction".

These don't sound like there is very many different ways you could interpret this.

gobo212

That's from the bible I assume (I'm no theologian)? I still think the basic tenants of these religions is to do good and be tolerant but you of course can't take everything written in these texts as completely literal. The author of that passage may have meant it in a literal way but the holy scripts were written by different people in different times and I think that like any good piece of literature (yes I think of the bible more as literature than the actual word of God because it is pretty indisputable that people wrote it) you need to interpret what is going on by the context and the intent of the text rather than the literal meaning. Of course this is at odds with fundamentalists but I think that is exactly my point.

Please tell me how your could find a benevolent meaning in this. I could do with a laugh, because anything you come up with will be seriously grasping for straws. No matter how you look at it, this is "discriminating, and promoting violence".

Well obviously if one takes this literally (can you post the actual passage this is from BTW?) it is promoting violence. What I am saying is that if this is from the new testament it goes against the teachings of Jesus (I could be proven wrong here, and believe it or not I rather enjoy being proven wrong) and instead promotes violence against unbelievers which I don't think people who espouse true Christian ideals espouse.

I just think there annoying cause they always try to convert and stuff. its like hey man get a life

I'm not offended by it, but there's a church up my street and I love pissing them off. Listening to them at my doorstep telling me how Jesus saved them and made their life great. It's hilarious. If they're life is so great, why are they going door to door spreading church propaganda? I guess I'm somewhat intolerant of Christianity. If I find out someone is a Christian or mega-Christian, then I lose some respect for them. It makes me uneasy being around someone who thinks of life in a whole different perspective than me. I prefer to live free, with an open mind, with my own morals, and with my own standards. I couldn't imagine going to Church, limiting my activities, and being nice just to "score points with the big guy upstairs". What I've come to notice is a lot of Christians are hardly even Christians. They don't go to Church. They don't study the bible. They don't do anything - yet they claim to participate in Christianity. The line of "right" and "wrong" in Christianity is virtually inexistant because people can twist the religion to suit their own needs/wants and still believe they're going to heaven. I think that's bull. It's not just Christianity though, it's religion as a whole. I don't buy it.GodLovesDead

look at ur name though! did you notice that? ROLF are you christian?

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]I'm not offended by it, but there's a church up my street and I love pissing them off. Listening to them at my doorstep telling me how Jesus saved them and made their life great. It's hilarious. If they're life is so great, why are they going door to door spreading church propaganda? I guess I'm somewhat intolerant of Christianity. If I find out someone is a Christian or mega-Christian, then I lose some respect for them. It makes me uneasy being around someone who thinks of life in a whole different perspective than me. I prefer to live free, with an open mind, with my own morals, and with my own standards. I couldn't imagine going to Church, limiting my activities, and being nice just to "score points with the big guy upstairs". What I've come to notice is a lot of Christians are hardly even Christians. They don't go to Church. They don't study the bible. They don't do anything - yet they claim to participate in Christianity. The line of "right" and "wrong" in Christianity is virtually inexistant because people can twist the religion to suit their own needs/wants and still believe they're going to heaven. I think that's bull. It's not just Christianity though, it's religion as a whole. I don't buy it.iusm78

look at ur name though! did you notice that? ROLF are you christian?

Far from it :P. When I registered to Gamespot I decided to use a SN I wouldn't normally use on other sites so I just picked the name of the song I was listening to at that very moment called "God Loves the Dead", a terrible black metal song from a terrible black metal band.

I sometimes get offended by the delivery and consequence of Christianity.

The religion istsef it too vague to offend (hence all the Christian subdivisions), but many Christians, especially with a conversion agenda, do tick me off.

It's probably just some irrational fear that of mine; the weak-minded may believe in comforting fluffy evangelical dogma over cold hard facts.

I'm not offended by any religon unless it's killing innocent people or the ideas are shouted in my face

Nooo the religious topics have started to escape OT.. lets hope that none others escape and it becomes like OT where 4 of these topics are posted daily :| Rattlesnake_8

[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]Nooo the religious topics have started to escape OT.. lets hope that none others escape and it becomes like OT where 4 of these topics are posted daily :| linkthewindow

Yeah, got confused cause i was in the GS AU board.. i just woke up :P I also just edited my post but you'd already quoted me.. your to fast.

Since I'm a Christian, I'm not at all offended by Christianity, no. I AM offended by people who misinterpret what Christianity is about, which both Christians and non-Christians are equally inclined to do. I'm also offended by athiests who automatically assume Christians are ignorant, brainwashed, or both. Yes, a lot are--maybe even the majority--but certainly not all of us.

And I'd be willing to bet the Bible excerpt that was posted earlier is from the Old Testament, which for Christians is more of a history book than anything. The New Testament and the teachings of Jesus are what you're supposed to follow. Just sayin'.