Are you offended by Christianity?

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"][QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]Nooo the religious topics have started to escape OT.. lets hope that none others escape and it becomes like OT where 4 of these topics are posted daily :| Rattlesnake_8

Yeah, got confused cause i was in the GS AU board.. i just woke up :P I also just edited my post but you'd already quoted me.. your to fast.

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

MayorJohnny

go down to youtube. you'll find plenty of those down there.

Nope. But to answer your question, people are intolerant of Christianity because Christianity is intolerant of other people, and many prominent Christians work to impose their system of beliefs on everybody, which affects many people who do not believe in Christianity. This is a silly question, really. It would be like asking you why you get uptight when people push an atheist agenda in the government.pianist

Wow. Never thought I'd see the pianist generalize and stereotype an entire set of people.:o

I will say there is far too much of an anti Christitanity agenda in OT. My belief....insecurity.

[QUOTE="pianist"]Nope. But to answer your question, people are intolerant of Christianity because Christianity is intolerant of other people, and many prominent Christians work to impose their system of beliefs on everybody, which affects many people who do not believe in Christianity. This is a silly question, really. It would be like asking you why you get uptight when people push an atheist agenda in the government.LJS9502_basic

Wow. Never thought I'd see the pianist generalize and stereotype an entire set of people.:o

I will say there is far too much of an anti Christitanity agenda in OT. My belief....insecurity.

There seems to be two extremes on OT, the hardcore atheists, and hardcore Christians. There seem to be few people in between :|.linkthewindow

No...though they are the most vocal. I have only seen a handfull of hardcore Christians here. Hardcore atheists on the other hand are quite prevalent. And when I say hardcore I mean those that are pushing their agenda.

I accept all religions, faiths, and people except extremists, intolerants, and ignorants.


And the Dutch.
EmilioDigsIt

I'm not intolerant of Christianity, just the fundamentalists.

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

MayorJohnny

when it comes to a mass of people youll notice they usuall ywant something to hate for example

many christians became atheists... a lot of them were the bible thumpers who now want to hate christians since their conversion

the same thing can be said about racists.

Now im not christian (or racist for that matter) but I agree christians are getting the bulk of the slack.

Christians have the right to believe in what they want, but dont expect others to not want to debate about it.

I dislike religious zealot nuts. People who attend church regularly (or temple or any other holy place) I have no issues with and respect that. As long as they don't try to convince me I'm going to hell because I constantly call Jesus a zombie.

I believe in God and Christ but I don't attend church, haven't been in over 11 years. I think you can worship God in your own way and that some of these more hardcore religions were established to put a few people in a place of power. No one is closer to God than any other person.

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

MayorJohnny

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up stories.

I'm Catholic so I usually get an earful from both Protestants and Atheists. lol.

I'm not intolerant of other's beliefs at all. This is America, your allowed to believe, and most importantly, not believe, in anything you want to.

I think Christians get a bulk of attack because of 1) Envangelical Christianity which is very extreme, 2) Its easy and makes the person attacking them "edgy and sophisticated."

The biggest double standard in this country, is how you can say all this awful stuff about Jesus, but as soon as you say something bad about Mohammed, Buddha or any other religious figure, suddenly your considered intolerant and attacked for it.

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

MayorJohnny

Everbody knows the arguments won't have any effect, some of the threads are made by christians too, they start them most of the time i think

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

smarb001

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

smarb001

Science can't (and doesn't) explain everything.....;)

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

smarb001

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up stories.

So why not disprove the Qu'ran? It's always the Bible. Why?

I think even Jesus would be offended by certain divisions of christianity.Mr_sprinkles

1st time ever I've agreed with Mr_sprinkles.

Hell must be freezing over and heaven is falling from the sky.

[QUOTE="smarb001"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

cametall

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up stories.

So why not disprove the Qu'ran? It's always the Bible. Why?

because I know more christians, and there are more christians on OT. The larger the audience, the better.:)

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up stories.

smarb001

Normally, when billions of people believe something, it isn't considered stupid.

But when billions of people believe the Bible, well, they must be stupid. It can't be that you're not understanding the Bible correctly. Just that 30% of the planet's population (89% if you include all theism) is stupid.

It makes perfect sense.

I wouldn't have married my wife (even though I'm non-religious) if I was in someway offended by someone elses beliefs, I might not be religious myself but that doesn't give me the right to hold others beliefs against them (unless they are complete scums that rape, murder, cheat, steal, etc).

I have no reason to be offended by it. yes, I may feel that it's a tad illogical even in regards to other religions but so long as you don't preach it as truth I have no qualms.Hewkii

a tad illogical in reference to other religions? it is the only religion with any second hand evidence of its origin and existence.

I dislike religious zealot nuts. People who attend church regularly (or temple or any other holy place) I have no issues with and respect that. As long as they don't try to convince me I'm going to hell because I constantly call Jesus a zombie.

cametall

Calling Christ a zombie :o !?

Sweet flaming Jesus, that's just not right!

To be offended by something like Christianity not only displays massive insecurity; it's outright pathetic.Dracargen

I think the TC is asking the wrong question. No one should have a problem with a religion that teachers tolerance, understanding and love; it's certain groups who practice the extremes of the bible.

[QUOTE="smarb001"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

cametall

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up stories.

So why not disprove the Qu'ran? It's always the Bible. Why?

less muslims to defend themselves so it's less fun, it's also seen as 'racist'

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]I think even Jesus would be offended by certain divisions of christianity.cametall

1st time ever I've agreed with Mr_sprinkles.

Hell must be freezing over and heaven is falling from the sky.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]I think even Jesus would be offended by certain divisions of christianity.cametall

1st time ever I've agreed with Mr_sprinkles.

Hell must be freezing over and heaven is falling from the sky.

[QUOTE="cametall"]

I dislike religious zealot nuts. People who attend church regularly (or temple or any other holy place) I have no issues with and respect that. As long as they don't try to convince me I'm going to hell because I constantly call Jesus a zombie.

MetroidPrimePwn

Calling Christ a zombie :o !?

Sweet flaming Jesus, that's just not right!

Did you just call Jesus a flamer? :shock:

You're going to hell!

[QUOTE="smarb001"]

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

LJS9502_basic

Science can't (and doesn't) explain everything.....;)

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

smarb001

I don't trust the Bible for science....I don't trust science for faith,;)

Science doesn't explain almost everything to me...but maybe I question more than you do.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="smarb001"]

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

smarb001

Science can't (and doesn't) explain everything.....;)

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

can't you just accept other people's views???

Why do you put you trust in science books then??

[QUOTE="smarb001"]

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

LJS9502_basic

I don't trust the Bible for science....I don't trust science for faith,;)

Science doesn't explain almost everything to me...but maybe I question more than you do.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="smarb001"]

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

smarb001

Science can't (and doesn't) explain everything.....;)

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

are we to throw that out as well?

[QUOTE="smarb001"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="smarb001"]

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

fanofazrienoch

Science can't (and doesn't) explain everything.....;)

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

are we to throw that out as well?

exactly, thats why history cannot be 100% accurate, because the winning side always writes the history books. But thats off-topic.

but all of history was written by mere men.

are we to throw that out as well?

fanofazrienoch

[QUOTE="smarb001"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="smarb001"]

People try to disprove the bible because when there are billions of people believing in some stupid book, something is seriously wrong. Also, just because something is false doesn't mean we can't rag on it, for example scientology :P And I'll admit that Christian belief is not a bunch of "hooey", it is in fact simply an outdated, useless and pointless fairy tale used to explain things that can now be examined with a scientific approach, revealing the truth instead of some made up "hooey".

markop2003

Science can't (and doesn't) explain everything.....;)

But it explains almost everything, which is more than the bible does. Furthermore, the bible was created by humans, not God, so not only can it have human errors but using it to guide your life is frankly absurd, its like using the dictionary or a movie to guide your life (for lack of a better phrase). And also, it was created by people who had no knowledge of the natural world and were by todays standards very stupid, so trusting them is not something a shrewd person would do.

can't you just accept other people's views???

Why do you put you trust in science books then??

I can and do accept them, and most of my friends are christian. However, whenever I get the chance to argue on the internet, I let my natural selfish, intolerant and antisocial qualities take over :)

I trust "science books" because they have been scrutinized for centuries, rewritten, changed, and proven with FACTS not FAITH. Their not 100% perfect, but what is?

I trust "science books" because they have been scrutinized for centuries, rewritten, changed, and proven with FACTS not FAITH. Their not 100% perfect, but what is?

smarb001

They can't be facts if they've been rewritten and changed.

I feel that if Christianity is false, and that the Bible is a "fairy tale," then the people against it would now ignore it. Instead, and like on this board, it's usually questioned or even attacked. If it's fake, then why do you fear it? If it's already Illegitimate, then why constantly try to discredit Christians? Does the case for the Christian belief carry weight? If it does, then you admit that it's not all a bunch of hooey?

I know that people get a bad impression of some aspects of Christianity. However, if you truly understand God, then you won't let stupidity sway your perception. I've been a believer most all of my life, and I believe that logic and common sense is paramount. I'm not a "religious zealot" and I'm not "teh intolerant." I simply believe the Bible.

I have one final question. Why are you intolerant of Christianity? That's hypocritical when you accuse Christians of being intolerant.

MayorJohnny

And here is why people dislike people like you.. You some how believe that there is undeniable evidence and logic to your religion.. Where there is not, its a belief plain and simple.. No its not dissing your religion, but it does insult me that you somehow think certain Christian beliefs disprove the findings of some of our most brilliant scientists in history, with the billions pieces of evidence they found.. In things like a earth thats some 4.6 billion years old etc etc.