Are you religious? Let's discuss..

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

BTW I seen a article about which fields of science use what type of math and I can safely say that all of them don't use calculus.

coolbeans90

Uh, wait, what? :?

I'm not even sure I would bother.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"] Because we have something better: Witnesses. Actual witnesses today and all throughout time that have witnessed and heard God directly.wiifan001

So eye witness accounts is all it takes to prove God exists then? Looks like Big foot is in the same league as God.

No, i never have been.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

BTW I seen a article about which fields of science use what type of math and I can safely say that all of them don't use calculus.

alexside1

Uh, wait, what? :?

What exactly do you think calculus is for if you don't think that any field of science uses calculus?

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Uh, wait, what? :?

GabuEx

What exactly do you think calculus is for if you don't think that any field of science uses calculus?

...... Did you misread on what I wrote? Let me bold the parts for you. I never said that there are no fields of science that doesn't use calculus. I said that not ALL of them use calculus.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] I was referring to his comment that all field of science requires calculus, while the article that I read at school that's hanging on the board never shows that all fields of science requires calculus.alexside1

What exactly do you think calculus is for if you don't think that any field of science uses calculus?

...... Did you misread on what I wrote? Let me bold the parts for you. I never said that there are no fields of science that doesn't use calculus. I said that not ALL of them use calculus.

You initially said that all of them do not use calculus. Meaning that there isn't any sciences that use calculus. This left me and Gabu confused.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] I was referring to his comment that all field of science requires calculus, while the article that I read at school that's hanging on the board never shows that all fields of science requires calculus.alexside1

What exactly do you think calculus is for if you don't think that any field of science uses calculus?

...... Did you misread on what I wrote? Let me bold the parts for you. I never said that there are no fields of science that doesn't use calculus. I said that not ALL of them use calculus.

You said this:

"I can safely say that all of them don't use calculus."

But OK, fair enough, although I can tell you that it's certainly the case that all of the hard sciences use calculus.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

So eye witness accounts is all it takes to prove God exists then? Looks like Big foot is in the same league as God.

HoolaHoopMan

I did not give one answer. I gave you three of them. I gave those answers because that's what the Lord want us to do.

And another thing: a simple respectful response would be, "No I don't want to." You didn't have be so rude about it.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

What exactly do you think calculus is for if you don't think that any field of science uses calculus?

coolbeans90

...... Did you misread on what I wrote? Let me bold the parts for you. I never said that there are no fields of science that doesn't use calculus. I said that not ALL of them use calculus.

You initially said that all of them do not use calculus. Meaning that there isn't any sciences that use calculus. This left me and Gabu confused.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

What exactly do you think calculus is for if you don't think that any field of science uses calculus?

GabuEx

...... Did you misread on what I wrote? Let me bold the parts for you. I never said that there are no fields of science that doesn't use calculus. I said that not ALL of them use calculus.

You said this:

"I can safely say that all of them don't use calculus."

But OK, fair enough, although I can tell you that it's certainly the case that all of the hard sciences use calculus.

[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

You can only be Christian, Muslim, Agnostic or Atheist? Do other religions not exist?

ferrari2001

There simply is no proof for religion. acsam: Your mothers delusion/hallucination was caused by her going through a pivotal, stressful moment of her life. People see UFOs, demons, angels, and Elvis. They are all under a grand and common delusion that uses archetypes filtered through their culture. Stanley09

whatever you think Stanley.

I'm an atheist - the idea that there's some supernatural being sitting up in the cosmos that's responsible for everything in existance, that will answer prayers, suspend the natural order of things, create and do anything it wants etc, is absurd and irrational. Especially when there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

If it was anything other than religion, where a person believed in an invisible man that could see everything you do, make everything happen, speaks to you and commands you to do things etc, then the person beliving it would be considered delusional.

raynimrod

A true atheist would not even enter into a conversation debating the existance of a God because it would not even have ever entered their subconcious, no you choose not to believe, and that makes you one of many, and I am no judge. I love you Because God Loves me.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm an atheist - the idea that there's some supernatural being sitting up in the cosmos that's responsible for everything in existance, that will answer prayers, suspend the natural order of things, create and do anything it wants etc, is absurd and irrational. Especially when there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

If it was anything other than religion, where a person believed in an invisible man that could see everything you do, make everything happen, speaks to you and commands you to do things etc, then the person beliving it would be considered delusional.

daleerin24

A true atheist would not even enter into a conversation debating the existance of a God because it would not even have ever entered their subconcious

What sort of statement is that? If I don't believe in unicorns, and somebody mentions a belief in unicorns in a thread on GS, it would have just entered my consciousness, let alone my subconscious. Why would that stop me from debating it?

no you choose not to believe, and that makes you one of many, and I am no judge. I love you Because God Loves me.

daleerin24

Of course I choose not to believe - there's no reason FOR me to believe. You choose TO believe; you're not born inherently religious. You're born completely unknowning of life and religion.

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm an atheist - the idea that there's some supernatural being sitting up in the cosmos that's responsible for everything in existance, that will answer prayers, suspend the natural order of things, create and do anything it wants etc, is absurd and irrational. Especially when there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

If it was anything other than religion, where a person believed in an invisible man that could see everything you do, make everything happen, speaks to you and commands you to do things etc, then the person beliving it would be considered delusional.

raynimrod

A true atheist would not even enter into a conversation debating the existance of a God because it would not even have ever entered their subconcious

What sort of statement is that? If I don't believe in unicorns, and somebody mentions a belief in unicorns in a thread on GS, how would it just entered my consciousness, let alone my subconscious. Why would that stop me from debating it?

the Fact We are alive and are Capable of Love is all the reason in the world my dear friend.

no you choose not to believe, and that makes you one of many, and I am no judge. I love you Because God Loves me.

daleerin24

Of course I choose not to believe - there's no reason FOR me to believe. You choose TO believe; you're not born inherently religious. You're born completely unknowning of life and religion.

The fact that I am Alive and Have Love enough even for those who hate me is reason enough for me to believe, but then again I force my beliefs on no one, and will love you regardless :)

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm an atheist - the idea that there's some supernatural being sitting up in the cosmos that's responsible for everything in existance, that will answer prayers, suspend the natural order of things, create and do anything it wants etc, is absurd and irrational. Especially when there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

If it was anything other than religion, where a person believed in an invisible man that could see everything you do, make everything happen, speaks to you and commands you to do things etc, then the person beliving it would be considered delusional.

raynimrod

A true atheist would not even enter into a conversation debating the existance of a God because it would not even have ever entered their subconcious

What sort of statement is that? If I don't believe in unicorns, and somebody mentions a belief in unicorns in a thread on GS, it would have just entered my consciousness, let alone my subconscious. Why would that stop me from debating it?

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

so what i got is that your a kill joy? :lol:

Sorry daleerin, I don't know if you've responded or not.

so what i got is that your a kill joy?

acsam12304

I fail to see how you:

1. came to that conclusion
2. find any relevance for that remark in this discussion

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm an atheist - the idea that there's some supernatural being sitting up in the cosmos that's responsible for everything in existance, that will answer prayers, suspend the natural order of things, create and do anything it wants etc, is absurd and irrational. Especially when there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

If it was anything other than religion, where a person believed in an invisible man that could see everything you do, make everything happen, speaks to you and commands you to do things etc, then the person beliving it would be considered delusional.

acsam12304

A true atheist would not even enter into a conversation debating the existance of a God because it would not even have ever entered their subconcious

What sort of statement is that? If I don't believe in unicorns, and somebody mentions a belief in unicorns in a thread on GS, it would have just entered my consciousness, let alone my subconscious. Why would that stop me from debating it?

so what i got is that your a kill joy? :lol:

daleerin24

Not at all, I love everyone, even people who would gladly kill me, because love trumps all, and I have lived to long in sadness and despair and would rather bask in the joy and hapiness that is my reality, formed from Love.

The fact that I am Alive and Have Love enough even for those who hate me is reason enough for me to believe

daleerin24

To believe what?

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

The fact that I am Alive and Have Love enough even for those who hate me is reason enough for me to believe

raynimrod

To believe what?

[QUOTE="acsam12304"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm an atheist - the idea that there's some supernatural being sitting up in the cosmos that's responsible for everything in existance, that will answer prayers, suspend the natural order of things, create and do anything it wants etc, is absurd and irrational. Especially when there's not a shred of evidence to support it.

If it was anything other than religion, where a person believed in an invisible man that could see everything you do, make everything happen, speaks to you and commands you to do things etc, then the person beliving it would be considered delusional.

daleerin24

A true atheist would not even enter into a conversation debating the existance of a God because it would not even have ever entered their subconcious

What sort of statement is that? If I don't believe in unicorns, and somebody mentions a belief in unicorns in a thread on GS, it would have just entered my consciousness, let alone my subconscious. Why would that stop me from debating it?

so what i got is that your a kill joy? :lol:

daleerin24

Not at all, I love everyone, even people who would gladly kill me, because love trumps all, and I have lived to long in sadness and despair and would rather bask in the joy and hapiness that is my reality, formed from Love.

no no i wasnt talking about you ok? im not saying your a kill joy. i was saying to the other person

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="daleerin24"]

The fact that I am Alive and Have Love enough even for those who hate me is reason enough for me to believe

jalexbrown

To believe what?

Oh right, "religious" automatically means that everybody believes the same thing?

My mistake.

that goes for atheists too btw:Pmetalkitten

Hmpft :evil:

[QUOTE="metalkitten"]that goes for atheists too btw:Pgrokh

Hmpft :evil:

[QUOTE="grokh"]

[QUOTE="metalkitten"]that goes for atheists too btw:Pmetalkitten

Hmpft :evil:

LIES ALL LIES BLASPHEMY lol

jkg :P

yeah read the Bible response because you are just pulling crap out of your @55. how can you put up a argument if you never done and research about it at all or at leat took some kind of class or study? so stfu and go read it and study it and analyze it. in the mean time whatever you say is diddly squat.

btw like i said going to a web site from google and copying and paste it is not reading the bible. the "facts" on the web site you went to( dont say thats not the web site you went to, the site i posted up) is not facts the statements ends with questions and opinions.

acsam12304

Ah back again with the ad hominems eh?

I've already presented my argument to you a page or two back, feel free to respond to it other than "lol you don't know crap read the bible lol". Until then don't bother responding to my posts until you address the issues I specifically asked you for earlier.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

...... Did you misread on what I wrote? Let me bold the parts for you. I never said that there are no fields of science that doesn't use calculus. I said that not ALL of them use calculus.

alexside1

You initially said that all of them do not use calculus. Meaning that there isn't any sciences that use calculus. This left me and Gabu confused.

Because we have something better: Witnesses. Actual witnesses today and all throughout time that have witnessed and heard God directly.wiifan001

3. You keep insisting that I made I claim about god. Where in this topic have I said that? Quotes please. You imply a lot from that post, if you don't want people to get the wrong idea than create a disclaimers why don't ya?

alexside1

i'm pretty sure god gave up on most of humanity a long time ago. if he exists. which i don't believe in.

why do Hindu NDE's not feature Jesus?

foxhound_fox

Why would they?

i'm pretty sure god gave up on most of humanity a long time ago. if he exists. which i don't believe in.

gamedude234

Technically, I was born into Christianity, but my family hasn't gone to church in over a decade. I also went to a Catholic high school and I go to a private university with a Methodist affiliation, but I am not religious at all. I don't personally get anything out of worship or living my life "for Jesus." I find it difficult to see the point of organized religion in the first place. Going to church doesn't make you a good person. Being a good person makes you a good person. That's how I try to live my life. I've met a lot of indecent people that claim superiority over others simply because of their faith, which I find to be an atrocious and extremely un-Christian view. The stereotype of atheists and agnostics as bad people is sickening as well. I hate how Christians (and other religions) have this opinion that they are right and everyone else is wrong, so they have to be obnoxious and tell everyone else they're wrong and stir up all this commotion. Also, going to confession and telling a priest about your sins either through a wall or sitting back to back doesn't undo all the bad things you have done and give you a clean moral slate. I think this belief actually makes people worse off because they think they can just be absolved of anything bad they've done by admitting it to an anonymous person representing God. Oh, and one more thing. I think most people only practice their religions because that's what mommy and daddy tell them to do, because that's what their mommies and daddies told them to do. Like others have said, very few people make a conscious decision about religion and simply fall into one because of their family and/or geographical location.MajorSport

And people practice anything because of the background they have, I dont understand the point of you saying that.gaming25

And people practice anything because of the background they have, I dont understand the point of you saying that.gaming25

Religious people themselves often set those high standards when some of them claim to be part of the right/only one/true religion and to have the right/true beliefs.

His point is that chances are most people's religious beliefs are formed due to their background and not because reason alone dictates they are correct. So it isnt really that much of a truth-based thought-out (before it is espoused) mindset as it is one adopted and then rationalised.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

You initially said that all of them do not use calculus. Meaning that there isn't any sciences that use calculus. This left me and Gabu confused.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] I don't see how exactly I have said that. I though it was clear enough.alexside1

Lets multiply. Oh wait...

Lets just copulate.

Why would they?

gaming25

I'm currently an atheist but looking to change to Christianity. I just need the faith to be able to believe.JasonDarksavior

I'm agnostic/lazy atheist. PerfectCircles

What exactly is a lazy Atheist?

I tend to identify myself as be spiritual rather than religious.

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]I'm currently an atheist but looking to change to Christianity. I just need the faith to be able to believe.alexside1

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]I'm currently an atheist but looking to change to Christianity. I just need the faith to be able to believe.JasonDarksavior

I think he's serious.