Armed Services Day---Thanks guys!

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#51 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]You've got to understand how that might really wind up a war opponent though. It would be a bit like a thread to thank abortion doctors worldwide.

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If there was such a thread I wouldn't go in there just to post how I'm against it. I'd stay out of it like a civil person.

Hey, a civil person wouldn't make jokes about kids being stuffed in ovens and being burnt by their parents. Nor would they support draw Mohammed day probably. But hey, this is OT - who said we're all civil people?

I didn't know I had done any of that. :?

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]If there was such a thread I wouldn't go in there just to post how I'm against it. I'd stay out of it like a civil person.

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Hey, a civil person wouldn't make jokes about kids being stuffed in ovens and being burnt by their parents. Nor would they support draw Mohammed day probably. But hey, this is OT - who said we're all civil people?

I didn't know I had done any of that. :?

Oh, maybe you didn't.:oops: Pretty much everyone else has though :P

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#54 MathMattS
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Indeed yes! Thank you to all of our men and women in the US armed services who keep our country safe.

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#55 Snipes_2
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Thanks for putting your life on the line to keep the rest of us safe :)

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#56 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Hey, a civil person wouldn't make jokes about kids being stuffed in ovens and being burnt by their parents. Nor would they support draw Mohammed day probably. But hey, this is OT - who said we're all civil people?jimmyjammer69

I didn't know I had done any of that. :?

Oh, maybe you didn't.:oops: Pretty much everyone else has though :P

I supported Draw Muhammad! :)
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#57 Sajo7
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You guys all deserve better. Good luck.
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#58 DarkPrinceXC
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Thanks to all others who have served, and are still serving. Daavpuke, I served in the Marine Corps for 4 years, and it's pretty disrespectful to ANYONE who is still in the military to voice those opinions in an Armed Services Day thread. That's just my opinion though. Although I'd certainly love to see whichever country you are in, disband it's military completely. I think your "vision of a perfect world" would be drastically changed. A military is needed for any country to defend itself.
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#59 Communist_Soul
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Thank you guys I wish you the best of luck!

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#60 mlbslugger86
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to all those guys and gals out there fighting i salute you *salutes*

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#61 SpartanMSU
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Private First Class U.S. Army

11 Bang Bang Infantry baby

Thanks to all the military men and women who've served past and present.

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#62 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Thanks for serving..even though many don't appreciate the sacrifice..

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#63 Espada12
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Thank you all and I maybe amongst you soon. I see the liberals are already up in here hating, oh well.

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#64 -TheSecondSign-
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No problem.

PFC in the USMC here. Bottom of the trash can, taking all the bullcrap.

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#65 jstamm33
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Thank you all and I maybe amongst you soon. I see the liberals are already up in here hating, oh well.

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not all liberals "hate" I'm a liberal and I'm enlisting in december. 11B Army. Already working with my recruiter.
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#66 SpartanMSU
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No problem.

PFC in the USMC here. Bottom of the trash can, taking all the bullcrap.

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eeewww a marine.

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#67 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Thank you all and I maybe amongst you soon. I see the liberals are already up in here hating, oh well.

jstamm33

not all liberals "hate" I'm a liberal and I'm enlisting in december. 11B Army. Already working with my recruiter.

11 Bravo. Nice choice. Have fun at Ft. Benning! You're gonna get smoked buddy.

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#68 no_more_fayth
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if we actually supported our troops unitedly,

they'd be home...

not fighting a useless war.

i do support you guys.

i thank you for your courageousness and your patriotism.

i wish you could come home and spend time with your families.

where you belong.

:/

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#69 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

No problem.

PFC in the USMC here. Bottom of the trash can, taking all the bullcrap.

SpartanMSU

eeewww a marine.

Oorah.

We were born in a bomb crater, our mother was an M-16 and our father was the devil.

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Thank you all and I maybe amongst you soon. I see the liberals are already up in here hating, oh well.

Espada12

I'm on far left and I want to join the military. Not all liberals hate the military.

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[QUOTE="jstamm33"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Thank you all and I maybe amongst you soon. I see the liberals are already up in here hating, oh well.

SpartanMSU

not all liberals "hate" I'm a liberal and I'm enlisting in december. 11B Army. Already working with my recruiter.

11 Bravo. Nice choice. Have fun at Ft. Benning! You're gonna get smoked buddy.

Nah he'll be fine. You Army guys don't train that hard. I had a stay up in Fort LeonardWood.

Besides, I'm socially liberal and everyone around me whose a Marine knows it. I get a lot of crap about it but they don't try to beat me up or anything becuase they know I'm a crazy little bastard and yeah they'd probably win but I'd take an ear, probably with my teeth.

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ditor">

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="jstamm33"] not all liberals "hate" I'm a liberal and I'm enlisting in december. 11B Army. Already working with my recruiter.-TheSecondSign-

11 Bravo. Nice choice. Have fun at Ft. Benning! You're gonna get smoked buddy.

Nah he'll be fine. You Army guys don't train that hard. I had a stay up in Fort LeonardWood.

Besides, I'm socially liberal and everyone around me whose a Marine knows it. I get a lot of crap about it but they don't try to beat me up or anything becuase they know I'm a crazy little bastard and yeah they'd probably win but I'd take an ear, probably with my teeth.

Ooohh trust me at Ft. Benning you train hard. It's the Home of the Infantry. It's the only place they do OSUT for 11 Bravos. BCT at other forts is a walk in the park compared to Ft. Benning.
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ditor">[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

11 Bravo. Nice choice. Have fun at Ft. Benning! You're gonna get smoked buddy.

SpartanMSU

Nah he'll be fine. You Army guys don't train that hard. I had a stay up in Fort LeonardWood.

Besides, I'm socially liberal and everyone around me whose a Marine knows it. I get a lot of crap about it but they don't try to beat me up or anything becuase they know I'm a crazy little bastard and yeah they'd probably win but I'd take an ear, probably with my teeth.

Ooohh trust me at Ft. Benning you train hard. It's the Home of the Infantry. It's the only place they do OSUT for 11 Bravos. BCT at other forts is a walk in the park compared to Ft. Benning.

Never had the pleasure of visiting. I'm a Swamp Dog, went to Parris Island, 3rd Batallion, Lima Company, 3105. My drill instructors didn't just hate me as a recruit but they hated me as a person. A lot of people hate me, I'm a total jackass, but I've never been able to FEEL a person hating me, like, actually feel the emotion of hate radiating off a person with such intensity that it burns.

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Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.
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#75 SgtKevali
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I support the troops, which is exactly why I'd prefer it if they weren't in Iraq and Afghanistan getting killed/wounded.

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Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.grape_of_wrath

Branch rivalry is like, the funnest thing about the military.

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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.-TheSecondSign-

Branch rivalry is like, the funnest thing about the military.

Then it's not that fun is it? :lol:
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[QUOTE="jstamm33"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Thank you all and I maybe amongst you soon. I see the liberals are already up in here hating, oh well.

SpartanMSU

not all liberals "hate" I'm a liberal and I'm enlisting in december. 11B Army. Already working with my recruiter.

11 Bravo. Nice choice. Have fun at Ft. Benning! You're gonna get smoked buddy.

FT benning huh? I've had two friends pass through there already D:

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#80 Shad0ki11
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Person A: "We shouldn't be in Iraq!"

Old-timer veteran: "Yes we should! We're fighting for freedom. We're fighting for what America stands for."

Person A: "No we're not. We're fighting for oil."

Old-timer veteran: "Your generation is so un-patriotic."

o_o

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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.grape_of_wrath

Branch rivalry is like, the funnest thing about the military.

Then it's not that fun is it? :lol:

Its basically the same thing as civilian life for me, just with more responsibility and more expectations for each individual, and more ass chewings. I picked what most people consider the most difficult branch in the military, in the most powerful military in the world. I'm seeing all sorts of cool stuff, and I've done stuff that most people never get to do, but really, its just a job, a job that requires more dedication and time than the average job, and where you're expected to hold yourself to a higher physical and mental standard. Yeah, not everybody can do it, its hard and all, and I got my ass kicked a couple of times, but its not anything so crazy hard like some people think it is. You wake up, do what you're told, and then you go to bed. The only difference is I travel more frequently than most people, I live harder than most people, I have to pay more respect to my superiors than most people. But thats it. I guess itd be different I was a Marine who deployed frequently or I was an 0300, but I'm not deploying and I'm not an 03, so I basically just go to work everyday and do my job.

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#82 grape_of_wrath
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

Branch rivalry is like, the funnest thing about the military.

Then it's not that fun is it? :lol:

Its basically the same thing as civilian life for me, just with more responsibility and more expectations for each individual, and more ass chewings. I picked what most people consider the most difficult branch in the military, in the most powerful military in the world. I'm seeing all sorts of cool stuff, and I've done stuff that most people never get to do, but really, its just a job, a job that requires more dedication and time than the average job, and where you're expected to hold yourself to a higher physical and mental standard. Yeah, not everybody can do it, its hard and all, and I got my ass kicked a couple of times, but its not anything so crazy hard like some people think it is. You wake up, do what you're told, and then you go to bed. The only difference is I travel more frequently than most people, I live harder than most people, I have to pay more respect to my superiors than most people. But thats it. I guess itd be different I was a Marine who deployed frequently or I was an 0300, but I'm not deploying and I'm not an 03, so I basically just go to work everyday and do my job.

What I meant to say is that cohesion within a battalion and especially a company and a platoon in a military force is much more important than this so called "branch rivalry" and generates much more lols .from experience only the greenest and fresh recruits talk about rivalry between forces as large as that. We call it "company milieu" in free translation.Maybe it's different in the american forces.
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Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.grape_of_wrath

Why are you assuming that because we're in difference branches we all hate each other? If you deploy you end up working with each other. Branch rivalry relieves tension and lets us have a little bit of fun while we're at it.

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You can keep on saying it over and over again.. But the past 20 to 25 years will show otherwise that our military has had little use for defense.. The cold War was staved off from going hot due to the threat of mutually assured destruction not our military vets.. And the secondary is true because we prop up regimes no matter how corrupt or brutal to fight a proxy war within regions like the Middle East.. The united States gets alot of critisim for that because we more or less share a empire like Great Britian all those years ago.

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You haven't had any experiences of actually being a member of our military.

I did realistic defense throughout my career, so I'm basing my post on actual events.

1. Atmospheric radar detection of Soviet aircraft invading United States sovereign airspace (defense).

2. NORAD, a joint U.S - Canadian aerospace defense command that has been in existence for decades, even has "defense" as part of its name.

3. Space defense: tracking Russian and other unfriendly nations' spy satellites. They are maneuverable, which means their orbits change. Their priority becomes greater, thus you must find them so we know which resources are going to be tried to be spied upon.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

You can keep on saying it over and over again.. But the past 20 to 25 years will show otherwise that our military has had little use for defense.. The cold War was staved off from going hot due to the threat of mutually assured destruction not our military vets.. And the secondary is true because we prop up regimes no matter how corrupt or brutal to fight a proxy war within regions like the Middle East.. The united States gets alot of critisim for that because we more or less share a empire like Great Britian all those years ago.

topsemag55

You haven't had any experiences of actually being a member of our military.

I did realistic defense throughout my career, so I'm basing my post on actual events.

1. Atmospheric radar detection of Soviet aircraft invading United States sovereign airspace (defense).

2. NORAD, a joint U.S - Canadian aerospace defense command that has been in existence for decades, even has "defense" as part of its name.

3. Space defense: tracking Russian and other unfriendly nations' spy satellites. They are maneuverable, which means their orbits change. Their priority becomes greater, thus you must find them so we know which resources are going to be tried to be spied upon.

Yeah because those damned ruskies are going to war with us!.. :| News flash no matter how much defense we have, nothing will stop a nuclear exchange form happening.. And thats the ONLY thing that would happen if Russia decided to attack.. Mutually assured destruction on a planetary scale, it doesn't matter if we had these what so ever.. Stuff like Norad are good ideas, intil you realize that the main nuclear powers in the world have stockpiles that are able to destroy the planet a hundred times over..

Other unfriendly satilietes? The war is over, the "hostile" forces are a bunch of third world countries that do not have the resrouces or care to get them.. They havn't even developed a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the United States.. Oh noes the russkies may know the location of a few of our missle silos!.. Guess what that means jack when we have navel vessles in the water that they can not track that launch nuclear weapons..OUr NUMBER one defense against something like Russia is the fact we have nuclear weapons.. And their number one defence is nuclear weapons.. Its why the Cold War didn't go hot, because if it didhumanity would havegone extinct from the nuclear holocaust that would occur..

Yet again these "defenses" are nonexistent.. None of these would ever prevent Russia and the United States destroying one another if they went to a nuclear exchange, which would lead to the destruction of the entire human race.. Infact many military strategists and realists went after Bush for pulling out of the balistics treaty and developing a missle defense system.. It should be clear why this shouldn't happen.. Because It makes countries like Russia feelthreatend again because their nuclear weapons are supposedly not capable of projecting the security of"if you attack us, both of us will die"..

I am all for military in its proper defence.. But what the United States has is on a completely different level.. And its mainly used to project superiority in regions of the world of ECONOMIC gain, it has little to nothing to do with actual defense of our nation from being attacked.. Our military budget is greater then all of Europes and Russia's budgets combined!.. And its being used to combat third world countries.. Yet again, the United States doesn't need a military as large as it is now.. There is not a single security risk from a legitimate power out there, god forbid that the United States start using diplomacy in the oil deals they make across seas!

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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.airshocker

Why are you assuming that because we're in difference branches we all hate each other? If you deploy you end up working with each other. Branch rivalry relieves tension and lets us have a little bit of fun while we're at it.

I don't even come close to thinking you hate each other,I know a bit more that that. It seems to me ,however, that an infantrymen should be proud of being infantry and ,a combat engineer should be proud of being a combat engineer ,And that a member of the special weapons company within an infantry battalion should be proud of the weapons company. This is what I know and understand,the branch thing seems childish.
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.grape_of_wrath

Why are you assuming that because we're in difference branches we all hate each other? If you deploy you end up working with each other. Branch rivalry relieves tension and lets us have a little bit of fun while we're at it.

I don't even come close to thinking you hate each other,I know a bit more that that. It seems to me ,however, that an infantrymen should be proud of being infantry and ,a combat engineer should be proud of being a combat engineer ,And that a member of the special weapons company within an infantry battalion should be proud of the weapons company. This is what I know and understand,the branch thing seems childish.

Agreed rivalies on such levels are stupid :|

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#88 topsemag55
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I am all for military in its proper defence.. But what the United States has is on a completely different level.. And its mainly used to project superiority in regions of the world of ECONOMIC gain, it has little to nothing to do with actual defense of our nation from being attacked.. Our military budget is greater then all of Europes and Russia's budgets combined!.. And its being used to combat third world countries.. Yet again, the United States doesn't need a military as large as it is now.. There is not a single security risk from a legitimate power out there, god forbid that the United States start using diplomacy in the oil deals they make across seas!

sSubZerOo

If you honestly feel this way, then perhaps it would not be a good idea for you to enlist.

The United States Constitution is deeply intertwined in our military - so much so, in fact, that we are required to take an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Breaking that oath means an automatic courts-martial and a prison sentence.

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#89 Bobzfamily
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Why do people have to come in here with very ignorant and somewhat insulting posts to those men and women who voluntarily choose to enter the armed forces with the intention of serving their country and protecting our lazy asses at home? The day is meant to honour those who serve, not debate about the merits and downfalls or rights and wrong of US foreign policy andwithout namingnames, some of your replies have crossed the line into being insulting. You disappoint me OT :(

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I am all for military in its proper defence.. But what the United States has is on a completely different level.. And its mainly used to project superiority in regions of the world of ECONOMIC gain, it has little to nothing to do with actual defense of our nation from being attacked.. Our military budget is greater then all of Europes and Russia's budgets combined!.. And its being used to combat third world countries.. Yet again, the United States doesn't need a military as large as it is now.. There is not a single security risk from a legitimate power out there, god forbid that the United States start using diplomacy in the oil deals they make across seas!

topsemag55

If you honestly feel this way, then perhaps it would not be a good idea for you to enlist.

The United States Constitution is deeply intertwined in our military - so much so, in fact, that we are required to take an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Breaking that oath means an automatic courts-martial and a prison sentence.

I am only critical towards the current foriegn policies that the US has had for the past 60 years.. And a military that is overbloated used for things other then defense and is not needed by a single nation in the world within the 21st century.. Be critical towards your government isn't a crime, as long as you do what your duty abides.. You honestly think that allt he vets of vietnam supported why their government was there and wha tnot? No but they still did their duty.

... I see so how is my attitude against the Constitution.. IF ANYTHING I AM in full support of it because I reject things that infringe ont he constiution and human rights alike, such as the Patriot Act and the condoning or supporting of torture.. It seems quite ironic that the people who claim to be supposed patriots are often times the people that set forward the acts and ideas that goes against everything the Constiution stand for.

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#91 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]Maybe instead of coming here representing a US military branch, everyone from a service could take pride in his chosen military profession. Especially since the differences between the branches ,in the big picture, are miniscule. Just a thought. The branch pride thing just seems bizarre to me.grape_of_wrath

Why are you assuming that because we're in difference branches we all hate each other? If you deploy you end up working with each other. Branch rivalry relieves tension and lets us have a little bit of fun while we're at it.

I don't even come close to thinking you hate each other,I know a bit more that that. It seems to me ,however, that an infantrymen should be proud of being infantry and ,a combat engineer should be proud of being a combat engineer ,And that a member of the special weapons company within an infantry battalion should be proud of the weapons company. This is what I know and understand,the branch thing seems childish.

Well weren't talking about MOSs...

And it's all in fun. We're just joking around. And no, it's not just green recruits, I hear NCOs do it all the time.

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Congrats to all the soldiers who are serving/have served :)

You can say anything you want about a Government..But the soldiers are just doing their job as told..

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#93 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Why are you assuming that because we're in difference branches we all hate each other? If you deploy you end up working with each other. Branch rivalry relieves tension and lets us have a little bit of fun while we're at it.

sSubZerOo

I don't even come close to thinking you hate each other,I know a bit more that that. It seems to me ,however, that an infantrymen should be proud of being infantry and ,a combat engineer should be proud of being a combat engineer ,And that a member of the special weapons company within an infantry battalion should be proud of the weapons company. This is what I know and understand,the branch thing seems childish.

Agreed rivalies on such levels are stupid :|

Yes, because you would definitely understand it since you're in the military, right? Oh wait...

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#94 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I am all for military in its proper defence.. But what the United States has is on a completely different level.. And its mainly used to project superiority in regions of the world of ECONOMIC gain, it has little to nothing to do with actual defense of our nation from being attacked.. Our military budget is greater then all of Europes and Russia's budgets combined!.. And its being used to combat third world countries.. Yet again, the United States doesn't need a military as large as it is now.. There is not a single security risk from a legitimate power out there, god forbid that the United States start using diplomacy in the oil deals they make across seas!

sSubZerOo

If you honestly feel this way, then perhaps it would not be a good idea for you to enlist.

The United States Constitution is deeply intertwined in our military - so much so, in fact, that we are required to take an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Breaking that oath means an automatic courts-martial and a prison sentence.

I did not write what is below this quote.

I am only critical towards the current foriegn policies that the US has had for the past 60 years.. And a military that is overbloated used for things other then defense and is not needed by a single nation in the world within the 21st century.. Be critical towards your government isn't a crime, as long as you do what your duty abides.. You honestly think that allt he vets of vietnam supported why their government was there and wha tnot? No but they still did their duty.

... I see so how is my attitude against the Constitution.. IF ANYTHING I AM in full support of it because I reject things that infringe ont he constiution and human rights alike, such as the Patriot Act and the condoning or supporting of torture.. It seems quite ironic that the people who claim to be supposed patriots are often times the people that set forward the acts and ideas that goes against everything the Constiution stand for.

You cannot disobey a direct order from a superior officer unless it can be proven it is illegal. You cannot disobey orders simply because of personal political beliefs.

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#95 grape_of_wrath
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Why are you assuming that because we're in difference branches we all hate each other? If you deploy you end up working with each other. Branch rivalry relieves tension and lets us have a little bit of fun while we're at it.

I don't even come close to thinking you hate each other,I know a bit more that that. It seems to me ,however, that an infantrymen should be proud of being infantry and ,a combat engineer should be proud of being a combat engineer ,And that a member of the special weapons company within an infantry battalion should be proud of the weapons company. This is what I know and understand,the branch thing seems childish.

Well weren't talking about MOSs...

And it's all in fun. We're just joking around. And no, it's not just green recruits, I hear NCOs do it all the time.

I was talking about green recruits here,Not the US forces. But whatever...If that what makes you all happy.
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*throws up horns* another metal legend down

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

If you honestly feel this way, then perhaps it would not be a good idea for you to enlist.

The United States Constitution is deeply intertwined in our military - so much so, in fact, that we are required to take an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Breaking that oath means an automatic courts-martial and a prison sentence.

I am only critical towards the current foriegn policies that the US has had for the past 60 years.. And a military that is overbloated used for things other then defense and is not needed by a single nation in the world within the 21st century.. Be critical towards your government isn't a crime, as long as you do what your duty abides.. You honestly think that allt he vets of vietnam supported why their government was there and wha tnot? No but they still did their duty.

topsemag55

... I see so how is my attitude against the Constitution.. IF ANYTHING I AM in full support of it because I reject things that infringe ont he constiution and human rights alike, such as the Patriot Act and the condoning or supporting of torture.. It seems quite ironic that the people who claim to be supposed patriots are often times the people that set forward the acts and ideas that goes against everything the Constiution stand for.

You cannot disobey a direct order from a superior officer unless it can be proven it is illegal. You cannot disobey orders simply because of personal political beliefs.

And soldiers do that on a daily basis.. You think every soldier on the battlefield does things because they fully want to? They do so because they have to.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] I don't even come close to thinking you hate each other,I know a bit more that that. It seems to me ,however, that an infantrymen should be proud of being infantry and ,a combat engineer should be proud of being a combat engineer ,And that a member of the special weapons company within an infantry battalion should be proud of the weapons company. This is what I know and understand,the branch thing seems childish.SpartanMSU

Agreed rivalies on such levels are stupid :|

Yes, because you would definitely understand it since you're in the military, right? Oh wait...

Where did I suggest I was, or that I had some deep knowledge.. I was merely agreeing upon the idea that such rivalaries seem like a waste of time.. Settle down now..

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#100 taj7575
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I have more respect for the garbage man tbh... War is so far from me (as a Canadian).Franko_3

You do more in the Armed Service than just fight in wars..:|