If there is one thing that humanity have proven to be so predictable, is that they will not believe in anything unless they can see it. We can't see air, but we know that it's around us. Similarly, we might not see God Himself, but I can feel His presence around the world. That's one nature of fallen man, and it was told countless times even in the Bible. God's own chosen people refused to believe in the prophets that God sent, some even tortured and killed. What does that have to do with this discussion? No matter what kind of evidence there might be of God's existance (the Big Bang is manipulated by a higher being aka God), people are still going to dismiss it, almost like burying their head in sand.
One of the reasons I doubt the existance of Jesus:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
Another reason is every single person who ever comes and talk about Jesus always get a quote from the Bible. There is no other independant source separate from the bible, like Roman and Greek historians during the time of Jesus, that would account for him to exist.
None of that necessarily means anything. I don't bash anyone's beliefs. I have read some of the bible and know of the things you speak of. This still doesn't prove anything. Nothing proves anything. Believe what you want. If you truly truly believe... than you know it is true... you need no proof. It is good that you need no proof, because proof does not exist.
One of the reasons I doubt the existance of Jesus:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
Another reason is every single person who ever comes and talk about Jesus always get a quote from the Bible. There is no other independant source separate from the bible, like Roman and Greek historians during the time of Jesus, that would account for him to exist.
Jd1680a
Erm we do have non christian sources, most prominant ones being Tacticus and Josephus...
If there is one thing that humanity have proven to be so predictable, is that they will not believe in anything unless they can see it. We can't see air, but we know that it's around us. Similarly, we might not see God Himself, but I can feel His presence around the world. That's one nature of fallen man, and it was told countless times even in the Bible. God's own chosen people refused to believe in the prophets that God sent, some even tortured and killed. What does that have to do with this discussion? No matter what kind of evidence there might be of God's existance (the Big Bang is manipulated by a higher being aka God), people are still going to dismiss it, almost like burying their head in sand.hiphops_savior
I hate this argument so much. No atheist person-- scratch that -- no reasonable person will look at physical irrefutable evidence (which, i should note, can exist in other forms than just the visual) of a higher power and say it's wrong. That is just something the faithful like to tell themselves to make enemies of everyone else while quelling their own repressed feelings of doubt.
And what really takes the cake is that you continue to use the bible as evidence while making this argument. "We know that you'll never believe in god without evidence because the bible says so!" Really? So it's altogether impossible that the person or people that wrote the bible just may have foreseen that not everyone will believe a book with no bibliography? And is it even more improbable that, in realizing this, that they would include a prediction of it, in order to hold their audience captive?
Seriously, do yourself a favor and learn to question all authority, especially those that tell you not to.
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