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#101 123625
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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"]...ait there is a guy called GOD who has special powers...ait he can create an entire race like BAM... when theres evoluton.. wich is different than some dude creates stuff thats f*cking primitive SOOOOOO do people have any proof that theres a god..noooooo then wtf man and besides. he always knows what your doing... hes like crackhead santa clause.DJflufeh

Evolution is missing one key that could ultimately disprove god. There should be all over this world millions of transitional fossils so why havent we found MILLIONS!?

all right its called DECOMPOSING pay attention in school man

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

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#102 Griefing-Sam
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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="DJflufeh"]...ait there is a guy called GOD who has special powers...ait he can create an entire race like BAM... when theres evoluton.. wich is different than some dude creates stuff thats f*cking primitive SOOOOOO do people have any proof that theres a god..noooooo then wtf man and besides. he always knows what your doing... hes like crackhead santa clause.123625

Evolution is missing one key that could ultimately disprove god. There should be all over this world millions of transitional fossils so why havent we found MILLIONS!?

all right its called DECOMPOSING pay attention in school man

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

Just to confuse you.
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#104 Hom3_Pwn3r
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if i was an atheist it would be whoopsie
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#106 CptJSparrow
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"Not enough evidence, God, not enough evidence."
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#108 CptJSparrow
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Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

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Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.
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#109 Griefing-Sam
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[QUOTE="Griefing-Sam"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="DJflufeh"]...ait there is a guy called GOD who has special powers...ait he can create an entire race like BAM... when theres evoluton.. wich is different than some dude creates stuff thats f*cking primitive SOOOOOO do people have any proof that theres a god..noooooo then wtf man and besides. he always knows what your doing... hes like crackhead santa clause.DJflufeh

Evolution is missing one key that could ultimately disprove god. There should be all over this world millions of transitional fossils so why havent we found MILLIONS!?

all right its called DECOMPOSING pay attention in school man

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

Just to confuse you.

**** man some things get all **** up in preservitive, so shut up and smoke ur blunt

I haven't whacked god yet, and I don't smoke blunts at any ordinary occasion because it gives me nasty rashes.
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#110 123625
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]DJflufeh

Lol you really need to calm down and stop swearing please. We can act civil can we not? Oh unless you beleive we came from apes, then act any way you want right?

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#111 espoac
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"Why were you hiding?" I guess. What would Christians say if upon their death Thor was there waiting asking for an explanation as to why you didn't believe in him?
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#112 Quent1015
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I'd prolly ask him to explain himself to me.
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#113 DJflufeh
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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]123625

Lol you really need to calm down and stop swearing please. We can act civil can we not? Oh unless you beleive we came from apes, then act any way you want right?

what man im calm...i just say f*ck alot,
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#114 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

CptJSparrow

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

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#115 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]123625

Lol you really need to calm down and stop swearing please. We can act civil can we not? Oh unless you beleive we came from apes, then act any way you want right?

Would atheists make it anywhere if that were true?
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no need to thankme for i have caused to wars over stupid religeons i simply lived my life, unlike stupid idiot religeous fool who allow people to shove a notion into there head and they must simply beleive without proof, also they take it on themselfs to personnally spread there religeon onto other people.

god wpold thank me and i would walk into heaven singing and chanting as you are send to hell...forever...hopefully

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#119 Griefing-Sam
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[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]DJflufeh

Lol you really need to calm down and stop swearing please. We can act civil can we not? Oh unless you beleive we came from apes, then act any way you want right?

what man im calm...i just say f*ck alot,

Oh, well then it's a good thing you're typing then.
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#120 bman784
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There's no tangible evidence to support a god, therefore your hypothetical situation isn't even logical. Atheists aren't wrong. By the most simplistic logical conjecture they are completely right. Religion by the most simplistic logical conjecture is absolutely wrong, because there is no tangible evidence to support a deity of any sort. Any fact without any evidence to support it is wrong, by definition. Wrong- Not in conformity with fact or truth; incorrect or erroneous. I hate questions like these, because they point out the logical fallacy that exists within religion. If by some unimaginably impossible, tangential and thoroughly arbitrary reason that the Bible wasn't a bunch of unsubstantiated myths, I would say to god "it's too bad that you never gave me any reason to consider your existence".
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#121 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

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Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

You misunderstood me. Every single organism that has existed is a transition to another species; every organism is genetically different if it reproduces sexually: At what point does red become orange?
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#122 DJflufeh
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no need to thankme for i have caused to wars over stupid religeons i simply lived my life, unlike stupid idiot religeous fool who allow people to shove a notion into there head and they must simply beleive without proof, also they take it on themselfs to personnally spread there religeon onto other people.

god wpold thank me and i would walk into heaven singing and chanting as you are send to hell...forever...hopefully

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lol im honestly laughing

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#123 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

DJflufeh

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

that last part made no since

How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?

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#124 DJflufeh
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porque?
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How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?

123625
Some species have existed back then and continue to do so because they are better suited for surviving, such as the tardigrade. There is no 'deciding' to evolve; an organism either produces offspring that survive or it does not.
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#126 rowzzr
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i'd answer this one for the atheists although im catholic. simple.

"I'm sorry, God. i nver believed in you because i thought you were a fairy tale. after all,most of your christian followers acted like nuts. how would anyone believe in you then? how would you believe in a christian who threatens you with damnation everytime you said 'no' to his biblical quotations? how would i believe in you when a christian acts like a total jerk and expects you to believe in God? how could anyone believe in someone who thinks science is poo when the evidence is right in front of them?"

im pretty sure lots of people would agree.

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#127 cliff122316
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i would just tell him to judge my actions, because like someone else said if god is judging based on belief more than how a person lived their entire life...hes not cool
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#128 -TheSecondSign-
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Well I can't really answer that because I'm Christian....but I would indeed beg God to give them at least a fighting chance at salvation, before or after their death.

I doubt He would change His mind however, but He is God, so He can be like that. If He is like that, then that is the right way.

Still, when I got up, I'd ask him to help.

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#129 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

CptJSparrow

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

You misunderstood me. Every single organism that has existed is a transition to another species; every organism is genetically different if it reproduces sexually: At what point does red become orange?

But how can the same animal exist millions of years ago evolve when some dont and just stay the way they are? Cause isnt evolution based on the fact the people and animals are always changing and getting bigger and getting stronger?

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#130 mindbender244
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I'd say

"The following statement is true.
The Previous statement is false."

I'd see what he/she has to say

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#131 DJflufeh
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i would just tell him to judge my actions, because like someone else said if god is judging based on belief more than how a person lived their entire life...hes not coolcliff122316

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#132 bman784
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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

123625

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

that last part made no since

How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?


Evolution is an adaptation based on environmental and social factors. No species that existed millions of years ago has the same genetic composition it did millions of years ago. Survival of the fittest is the concept that creatures that have the ability to survive will live on. If a species has the ability to survive in it's current stae, it won't adapt as much as another species that exhibits weakness, and requires a mutation to better survive.
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#133 DJflufeh
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

123625

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

You misunderstood me. Every single organism that has existed is a transition to another species; every organism is genetically different if it reproduces sexually: At what point does red become orange?

But how can the same animal exist millions of years ago evolve when some dont and just stay the way they are? Cause isnt evolution based on the fact the people and animals are always changing and getting bigger and getting stronger?

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i'd answer this one for the atheists although im catholic. simple.

"I'm sorry, God. i nver believed in you because i thought you were a fairy tale. after all,most of your christian followers acted like nuts. how would anyone believe in you then?"

im pretty sure lots of people would agree.

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I happen disagree, as the premise about 'most' Christians being 'nuts' is a value judgment and is ignorant of epistemology. Causa es penitus thema.
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#135 123625
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i would just tell him to judge my actions, because like someone else said if god is judging based on belief more than how a person lived their entire life...hes not coolcliff122316

If god bases is judgement solely on actions, where does that leave the cripled and disabled? They cant help anyone. they are helped. They cant do anything to please god cause of their bodies. If god bases his judgement on the actions we take he isnt a very good god is he. Hes made it so simple for us to enter heaven.

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I won't say nothing, so that **** can throw me in hell and "burn" for eternity just because I didn't believe in him when there was no proof to begin with.
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#137 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

123625

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

You misunderstood me. Every single organism that has existed is a transition to another species; every organism is genetically different if it reproduces sexually: At what point does red become orange?

Charles Darwin himself said if you ever find the fossil of a bunny dated to the Crustacean Era then you'd "blow evolution out of the water".

But how can the same animal exist millions of years ago evolve when some dont and just stay the way they are? Cause isnt evolution based on the fact the people and animals are always changing and getting bigger and getting stronger?

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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

123625

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

that last part made no since

How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?

The thing that does not make sense is your logic.

Your basing the concept of evolution on your arbitrary standards for something that you consider "evolved" . You are saying that some things just stopped, and other kept going, but this is clearly not true. As one of the other posters pointed out, ever organism is constantly changing its race when it reproduces. You are saying some organisms do not do this, because you do not see it in action in some species. This does not mean it did not happen.

THis is indicative of only one fact: you weren't aware of it, and thus concluded it did not exist. Either that or the current "design" is so successful that it does not change much in response to the environment/other factores. ex: shark, they have changed little in millions of years.

I hate to be brutal, but this is clearly caused only by your own ignorance. Just because a fossil hasn't been found for every possible variation for say, a horse, doesn't mean that what we call a horse didn't change and originate from a different organism. Lack of awareness does not make some not exist, it meerly changes your philosophies as if it was true.

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#139 Calabi_Yau
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[QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

123625

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

that last part made no since

How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?

The thing that does not make sense is your logic.

Your basing the concept of evolution on your arbitrary standards for something that you consider "evolved" . You are saying that some things just stopped, and other kept going, but this is clearly not true. As one of the other posters pointed out, ever organism is constantly changing its race when it reproduces. You are saying some organisms do not do this, because you do not see it in action in some species. This does not mean it did not happen.

THis is indicative of only one fact: you weren't aware of it, and thus concluded it did not exist. Either that or the current "design" is so successful that it does not change much in response to the environment/other factores. ex: shark, they have changed little in millions of years.

I hate to be brutal, but this is clearly caused only by your own ignorance. Just because a fossil hasn't been found for every possible variation for say, a horse, doesn't mean that what we call a horse didn't change and originate from a different organism. Lack of awareness does not make some not exist, it meerly changes your philosophies as if it was true.

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didnt really get that
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i'd answer this one for the atheists although im catholic. simple.

"I'm sorry, God. i nver believed in you because i thought you were a fairy tale. after all,most of your christian followers acted like nuts. how would anyone believe in you then?"

im pretty sure lots of people would agree.rowzzr

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Not even close... :| Especially mine ;)

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#142 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

bman784

Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

that last part made no since

How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?


Evolution is an adaptation based on environmental and social factors. No species that existed millions of years ago has the same genetic composition it did millions of years ago. Survival of the fittest is the concept that creatures that have the ability to survive will live on. If a species has the ability to survive in it's current stae, it won't adapt as much as another species that exhibits weakness, and requires a mutation to better survive.

Mutation is not Evolution. Mutation is corruption. There are no benefits for being mutated.

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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

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Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

You misunderstood me. Every single organism that has existed is a transition to another species; every organism is genetically different if it reproduces sexually: At what point does red become orange?

Charles Darwin himself said if you ever find the fossil of a bunny dated to the Crustacean Era then you'd "blow evolution out of the water".

But how can the same animal exist millions of years ago evolve when some dont and just stay the way they are? Cause isnt evolution based on the fact the people and animals are always changing and getting bigger and getting stronger?

Some animals stay the same because their "design" or "form" is successful in teh current environment. Furthermore, these animals do change, just slower than other species. The reason they appear stagnant is purely an illusion created by the relative short length of our lives and society.

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#144 CptJSparrow
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But how can the same animal exist millions of years ago evolve when some dont and just stay the way they are? Cause isnt evolution based on the fact the people and animals are always changing and getting bigger and getting stronger?

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If an organism is suited to survive, it will. If a species is not suited to survive at a given time, it will become extinct. That is all there is to it; there is no drive to become stronger or bigger. The tardigrade is perhaps the most well-adapted specie on Earth, and it is both microscopic and physically impotent.
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#145 TyrantDragon55
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I'm Agnostic, and I would probably say something like "Imagine that." Now what would you christians say if you die and end up comming face to face with Allah?
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#146 DJflufeh
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Evolution is an adaptation based on environmental and social factors. No species that existed millions of years ago has the same genetic composition it did millions of years ago. Survival of the fittest is the concept that creatures that have the ability to survive will live on. If a species has the ability to survive in it's current stae, it won't adapt as much as another species that exhibits weakness, and requires a mutation to better survive.

Mutation is not Evolution. Mutation is corruption. There are no benefits for being mutated.

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#147 CptJSparrow
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Mutation is not Evolution. Mutation is corruption. There are no benefits for being mutated.

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Why is it that we have been unable to create immunity to the common cold?
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#148 DJflufeh
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no ci, no ci
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#149 bman784
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="DJflufeh"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Ok but why do we find fossils of other animals then?

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Fossils are very rare, and every single organism that has ever existed is a transition.

Everry animal you say. Surely we have found fossils of modern day animals in the world have we not? Im seriously asking i dont know.

and if we have found them why do they still exist today? Why did they not just all evovle?

that last part made no since

How did it not make sense. If animals that were fossilised millions of years back still exist today. Then why are they here? Because that means not every animal decided to evovle and just stopped. when others decided to go on ahead. does that make sense?


Evolution is an adaptation based on environmental and social factors. No species that existed millions of years ago has the same genetic composition it did millions of years ago. Survival of the fittest is the concept that creatures that have the ability to survive will live on. If a species has the ability to survive in it's current stae, it won't adapt as much as another species that exhibits weakness, and requires a mutation to better survive.

Mutation is not Evolution. Mutation is corruption. There are no benefits for being mutated.


Are you in a position to authoritatively talk about biology? Mutation is one of the key concepts behind evolution. I'll quote the Wikipedia article to clarify:
"Mutations create variations in the gene pool, and the less favorable (or deleterious) mutations are reduced in frequency in the gene pool by natural selection, while more favorable (beneficial or advantageous) mutations tend to accumulate, resulting in evolutionary change. For example, a butterfly may produce offspring with a new mutation. Many times new mutations are harmful; a new mutation might change the color of one of the butterfly's offspring, making it harder (or easier) for predators to see. If this color change is an advantage, the chances of this butterfly surviving and producing its own offspring are a little better, and over time the number of butterflies with this mutation may form a larger percentage of the population."

Muatation IS evolution. That would be obvious if you knew what evolution was.
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#150 DJflufeh
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thats one long ass post