Atheists...

You know im an agnostic person but I was thinking about atheists. I mean what, as an atheist, do you value in life seeing as there is not really any point in it for you to live? What is the point of staying alive if there is nothing. Im not bashing your beliefs or anything because i feel the same way. Non-atheists see that there is a point but as atheist or agnostics we really don't.

You know im an agnostic person but I was thinking about atheists. I mean what, as an atheist, do you value in life seeing as there is not really any point in it for you to live? What is the point of staying alive if there is nothing. Im not bashing your beliefs or anything because i feel the same way. Non-atheists see that there is a point but as atheist or agnostics we really don't.

gongytron

Non-atheists see that there is a point but as atheist or agnostics we really don't.gongytron

If anything I think Atheists could appreciate life more. They can do what they want because they don't feel like there's an omnipotent being watching their every move and judging them. That said, I feel Atheists are limiting themselves when they reject religion entirely. Religous texts can really teach you about life and you don't even have to believe in them to take those lessons on board.

If anything I think Atheists could appreciate life more. They can do what they want because they don't feel like there's an omnipotent being watching their every move and judging them. That said, I feel Atheists are limiting themselves when they reject religion entirely. Religous texts can really teach you about life and you don't even have to believe in them to take those lessons on board.

manicfoot

I believe in forwading humanity, having fun in life, and pleasing others. Also, Neil Peart summarizes how I feel in the song "faithless". RushMetallica

You can be atheist and still see that there is a point to living. Mankind has created art and music, friendship and love, morals and decency. Those are all great reasons to be a living human. But I see your point that to be an atheist one has to inherently believe that existence happened randomly, ends randomly, and has no further meaning. It just depends on the type of person as far as how they might perceive life. Another interesting question would be, "Why do some people have to rely on religion to find meaning in life?"YouAmStupid

Isn't life even more valuable if there is no afterlife?Engrish_Major

are you gona say a scientist is a atheist because he or she made a discovery?Tazzmission187

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Isn't life even more valuable if there is no afterlife?Thinker_reborn

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Isn't life even more valuable if there is no afterlife?Thinker_reborn

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Isn't life even more valuable if there is no afterlife?Thinker_reborn

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

Never really understood the belief that there has to be a God in order for life to be important or having a point.dave123321

or somehow if you don't think there's a god that you can't be a good person, or you can't be compassionate. Also, most religious people think that if there wasn't religion that everyone would be killing, raping and stealing because "someone's" not telling them to not do those things.

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Isn't life even more valuable if there is no afterlife?bigdrew172

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

And with your first point, that's the problem with this life.You DONT know whether you will live 75 years or not,you could very well just expire in the middle of it,you could just be working on something big and end up dying in the middle of it.That's why this life is rather worthless.

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Isn't life even more valuable if there is no afterlife?bigdrew172

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

[QUOTE="bigdrew172"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]Hmm no since you will die anyday and game over forever.Whatever you do untimately wont matter at all.warbmxjohn

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

I dont believe in eternity or millions of years of punishment.

And with your first point, that's the problem with this life.You DONT know whether you will live 75 years or not,you could very well just expire in the middle of it,you could just be working on something big and end up dying in the middle of it.That's why this life is rather worthless.

Thinker_reborn

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="bigdrew172"] I agree with Engrish_Major. Let me put it another way, if you are an athiest you figure you have about 75 years to live. You need to make the most of those 75 years because its all that you've got. You can change the course of mankind or you could do nothing with your life, either way its meaningful to you. But lets say you were a christian, what meaning do these 75 years have if you are going to live for eternity?

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

Thinker_reborn

Oh and in that example, that .00003% of your life was the ONLY time where you were allowed to sin so no that's not a good point at all but rather a not so well thought out one.Thinker_reborn

[QUOTE="bigdrew172"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]Hmm no since you will die anyday and game over forever.Whatever you do untimately wont matter at all.Thinker_reborn

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

And with your first point, that's the problem with this life.You DONT know whether you will live 75 years or not,you could very well just expire in the middle of it,you could just be working on something big and end up dying in the middle of it.That's why this life is rather worthless.

Much like I would imagine, in case my current bank account got ...bankrupt, that I had a second one with a billion dollars in it.

It sures sounds comforting but ...just comforting nothing more. You can't base the reason as to why something exists on your desire for it to exist...

You know im an agnostic person but I was thinking about atheists. I mean what, as an atheist, do you value in life seeing as there is not really any point in it for you to live? What is the point of staying alive if there is nothing. Im not bashing your beliefs or anything because i feel the same way. Non-atheists see that there is a point but as atheist or agnostics we really don't.

gongytron

I enjoy living, playing video games, eating, etc. The existence or absense of a higher being doesn't affect the purpose of my life in any way. I just want to do the things that I enjoy with the people I like.

If you have nothing to live for other than your faith, you must be a pretty damn pathetic person. DJ_Novakain

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]Oh and in that example, that .00003% of your life was the ONLY time where you were allowed to sin so no that's not a good point at all but rather a not so well thought out one.bigdrew172

So you are saying that the amount of time in this life is too little to "get things right" and to be judged on and yet this life is precious for atheists and they are going to achieve something in it?:roll:

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]That sounds REAL ridiculous... Good point..warbmxjohn

If you have nothing to live for other than your faith, you must be a pretty damn pathetic person. DJ_Novakain

[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

[QUOTE="bigdrew172"] I agree with Engrish_Major. Let me put it another way, if you are an athiest you figure you have about 75 years to live. You need to make the most of those 75 years because its all that you've got. You can change the course of mankind or you could do nothing with your life, either way its meaningful to you. But lets say you were a christian, what meaning do these 75 years have if you are going to live for eternity?

Before you respond that those 75 years decides where you spend eternity, which we've all heard before, think about your merciful God. You want to believe that this merciful god is willing to punish you for eternity, for something that you did with a % of your life that is always approaching 0. Sure when you first die you'd have spent lets say 80% of your life living in sin, but what happens when you've been in eternity for 2,000,000 million years? That means that god is punishing you for spending .00003% of your life living in sin. How ridiculous does that sound?

Teenaged

And with your first point, that's the problem with this life.You DONT know whether you will live 75 years or not,you could very well just expire in the middle of it,you could just be working on something big and end up dying in the middle of it.That's why this life is rather worthless.

Much like I would imagine, in case my current bank account got ...bankrupt, that I had a second one with a billion dollars in it.

It sures sounds comforting but ...just comforting nothing more. You can't base the reason as to why something exists on your desire for it to exist...

Infact it's your insecurity screaming right now, you dont wanna tell yourself that this life is worthless when it's so true,YOU are the one trying to run away from reality!!

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]If you have nothing to live for other than your faith, you must be a pretty damn pathetic person. Thinker_reborn

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

So you compensate for your insecurity in this life by desperately hoping there is an afterlife.

Much like I would imagine, in case my current bank account got ...bankrupt, that I had a second one with a billion dollars in it.

It sures sounds comforting but ...just comforting nothing more. You can't base the reason as to why something exists on your desire for it to exist...

Thinker_reborn

Infact it's your insecurity screaming right now, you dont wanna tell yourself that this life is worthless when it's so true,YOU are the one trying to run away from reality!!