Atheists.... do you have any morals? If so, how do you define them.

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#1 rimnet00
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READ THE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST

I'm not trying to be mean. I just don't understand what Atheists base their morals off of. What defines your moral code? I imagine it varies from person to person, however, I am really interested in what you have to say. Now, for those of you might take my question as being offensive - I'm not trying to be. I'm being 100% serious when asking this question.

This question isn't synonymous with "Are Atheists bad people?". Please take the question for what it is.

Just jumping ahead. In order to properly define your morality, you would also have to define what you believe to be as "morally good" and what is "morally bad" -- or in other words, "morally right" or "morally wrong". As, simply saying "My moral code is to be good", would create a situation where the definition of "good" is subjective.

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Morality isn't something that comes from just religion.

That and just because you are an atheist doesn't mean you cannot follow a religion.
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#3 CrimzonTide
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Nope, no morals at all. I would be a murderous maniac if I could, but I have way too many essays to write. Maybe after.
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#5 194197844077667059316682358889
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Yeah I do have morals; people do the right thing for reasons other than "because God said to"
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#6 JustPlainLucas
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Well... that's a really stupid question... :| My religion is called common sense, thank you very much. Seriously... wow...
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#7 PickGlove243
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I'm not an atheist, but I don't base my morals on religion.

I believe that as long as we live, we should respect and love each other, and that way we shall be loved and respected too. :)

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#8 MattUD1
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No. We are immoral people who do what we want, whenever we want; consequences be damned.
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#9 gobo212
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Yes I do have morals. I believe it's perfectly fine to murder and steal but gay marriage and doing drugs is just wrong.
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#10 Cerussite
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I have no morals. I murdered my boss last week after sexually harassing every big-breasted woman in my office. Morals are for schmucks.
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#11 Cube_of_MooN
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Its a viable question, but I don't think morality is exclusive to religion.
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#12 SolidSnake35
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Common sense, I should think.
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#13 Cerussite
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Nope, no morals at all. I would be a murderous maniac if I could, but I have way too many essays to write. Maybe after.CrimzonTide
You don't need to write those essays. Just lie, and say your house burned down. And then burn down somebody's house and claim it was yours.
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#14 nintendorocks
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Nope, I just raped 20 babies. :roll:....:|
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#15 ChicaQueenWarGa
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I believe that as long as we live, we should respect and love each other, and that way we shall be loved and respected too. :)

PickGlove243

Chica agrees. I always respect other people's religion, but one small mistake and it is *slap!*

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#16 Lobster_Ear
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Um, yes I have morals. I don't need a book to tell me what's right and what's wrong.
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#17 rimnet00
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Hey, well one thing is clear. People don't read posts at all.
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#18 lycrof
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I follow my own code. I don't need a religion to tell me how to act. I do what I feel will benefit myself, my family and friends. My moral code is based off of previous events learning from how I feel and act in certain situations. In my personal experiences I seem to have greater morals than most religious people I meet. Now where did that cat run off too, the water is boiling.
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#19 CrimzonTide
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You don't need to write those essays. Just lie, and say your house burned down. And then burn down somebody's house and claim it was yours. Cerussite
But that would ruin my facade. :( The whole plan is to instigate the suicide bombing in northern Siberia, and they won't let me in Russia unless I have a clean record.
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#20 Bill900
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even thought you weren't trying to start one, this is going to turn into a debate thread >.>
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#21 tzar3
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Well for me its pretty much common sense.
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#23 SolidSnake35
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Hey, well one thing is clear. People don't read posts at all. rimnet00
I think the common sense answer still stands. You can base what's truly good from your experiences in the world.
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#24 Bill900
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Hey, well one thing is clear. People don't read posts at all. rimnet00

ya got that right ;)

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#25 Cerussite
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"]You don't need to write those essays. Just lie, and say your house burned down. And then burn down somebody's house and claim it was yours. CrimzonTide
But that would ruin my facade. :( The whole plan is to instigate the suicide bombing in northern Siberia, and they won't let me in Russia unless I have a clean record.

Just hijack a plane. Really, where do you get off trying to have morals?
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#26 Cube_of_MooN
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Hey, well one thing is clear. People don't read posts at all. rimnet00

I'm not an athiest so I can't answer your quesrion, sorry... I tried.

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#27 JustPlainLucas
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READ THE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST

rimnet00

Rewrite your topic, then. Seriously, I don't care what my open argument is, I would never title a thread, "Christians, do you have any common sense?" :|

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#28 CrimzonTide
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Just hijack a plane. Really, where do you get off trying to have morals? Cerussite
But for that, I'd have to convert a pilot and/or force him into service. Nervous people don't fly very well, and I'm not going to be doing much good destorying peoples hopes and dreams if I'm dead.
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#29 CptJSparrow
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It does not make sense to me to have a code, to limit and bind myself to, ultimately, someone else's virtue -- someone else's curse.
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#30 EboyLOL
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Varies from atheist to atheist...
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"]Just hijack a plane. Really, where do you get off trying to have morals? CrimzonTide
But for that, I'd have to convert a pilot and/or force him into service. Nervous people don't fly very well, and I'm not going to be doing much good destorying peoples hopes and dreams if I'm dead.

Maybe you could just get a visa. Or steal it. Can you steal visas?
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#34 hoola
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My morals are basically christian morals. I just don't believe in the religion. I "do onto others as i would have them do onto me". I don't believe in christianity but i am very calm and loving.

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#35 UTXII
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Common sense are my morals.
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#36 CrimzonTide
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Maybe you could just get a visa. Or steal it. Can you steal visas? Cerussite
I'm sure I could buy one off eBay...and send fake money!
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#37 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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I get my morals from common sense...
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#38 foxhound_fox
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athiest are very wrong. plus if they have any morals, they are screwed up.

Christians live to be w/Jesus when we die (when in truth we move on to a new earth, and never actually die)

I'm a Christian, and a Jesus Freak, these are my views

Kanemaru

Who is the better person... the atheist who thinks murder is wrong or the theist who murders in the name of God due to some deluded belief that they are doing "God's work?"
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#39 tzar3
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athiest are very wrong. plus if they have any morals, they are screwed up.

Christians live to be w/Jesus when we die (when in truth we move on to a new earth, and never actually die)

I'm a Christian, and a Jesus Freak, these are my views

Kanemaru

Why? Because we dont believe in your god?

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#40 Cerussite
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athiest are very wrong. plus if they have any morals, they are screwed up.

Christians live to be w/Jesus when we die (when in truth we move on to a new earth, and never actually die)

I'm a Christian, and a Jesus Freak, these are my views

Kanemaru
I agree. Not with the second statement, but with the first statement. As I've said before, morals are for schmucks, so KILL, KILL, KILL!
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#41 Cerussite
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"]Maybe you could just get a visa. Or steal it. Can you steal visas? CrimzonTide
I'm sure I could buy one off eBay...and send fake money!

Why buy it off of eBay when you could steal it (off of eBay)?
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#42 luke1889
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No offence, but what kind of stupid question is that? :?

Of course we have morals. Jeez, your average atheist will be just as moral as your average theist. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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#43 Choga
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I am amoral.

Edit: And an atheist.

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#44 rimnet00
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My morals are basically christian morals. I just don't believe in the religion. I "do onto others as i would have them do onto me". I don't believe in christianity but i am very calm and loving.

hoola

Onto the third page, yet you are the only one who has answered the question fully. Congrats :)

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#45 CptJSparrow
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athiest are very wrong. plus if they have any morals, they are screwed up.

Christians live to be w/Jesus when we die (when in truth we move on to a new earth, and never actually die)

I'm a Christian, and a Jesus Freak, these are my views

Kanemaru
Value judgment.
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#46 CrimzonTide
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Why buy it off of eBay when you could steal it (off of eBay)? Cerussite
Hmm...I'll try. It seems as if eBay is too deep in the publics eye however, I will have to search the darker parts of visa acquiring land. >_> But anyway, I am literally off to search for them now.
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#47 CptJSparrow
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My morals are basically christian morals. I just don't believe in the religion. I "do onto others as i would have them do onto me". I don't believe in christianity but i am very calm and loving.

hoola
What do you do when you are wronged? Hm? What would you do if someone repeatedly flouts you, day after day?
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#48 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

READ THE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST

rimnet00

Rewrite your topic, then. Seriously, I don't care what my open argument is, I would never title a thread, "Christians, do you have any common sense?" :|

I didn't rewrite. I simply fixed my grammer, and further expounded on the question posed. I didn't change the original question, which was clear in the unchanged first paragraph. Nice try though.

He did not say that you did. He is suggesting that you do.

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#49 foxhound_fox
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Ah, so the title changed and asked a different question. My morals are mostly based off of common sense and what society has taught me what is "right and wrong."

"Why is it wrong to murder someone? Because they are entitled to their life as much as I am."

No religion in that.
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#50 dlp21
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I am an atheist. So how do I define what is Morally right and wrong. Well I use the what's best for society argument. You see, you learn very early that humans are able to succeed do to the combined effort of a human society. So I say to myself, Man1 killed Man2, Man2 contributed to society, Man1 took away from society, and so Man1 must be punished.