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#51 th3warr1or
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Look around you. Look at this planet. Look at us. Is that not evidence enough?

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if i look at the universe I see how we are less than insignificant. why would a God create endless planets and star systems all just to decorate our sky? also if i look at our body I would say there's pretty stupid design. why is our waste system the same place as our pleasure? sounds pretty stupid. why don't we have separate tubes for breathing and eating so we don't choke? other mammals have that. why do we have vestigial organs?

Cause God is sadistic lol, there's no doubt about it. He created us knowing whether each and every one of us were going to Heaven or Hell before we were even born.
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#52 Maqda7
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="KittenNipples"]

Look around you. Look at this planet. Look at us. Is that not evidence enough?

if i look at the universe I see how we are less than insignificant. why would a God create endless planets and star systems all just to decorate our sky? also if i look at our body I would say there's pretty stupid design. why is our waste system the same place as our pleasure? sounds pretty stupid. why don't we have separate tubes for breathing and eating so we don't choke? other mammals have that. why do we have vestigial organs?

Cause God is sadistic lol, there's no doubt about it. He created us knowing whether each and every one of us were going to Heaven or Hell before we were even born.

Then what reason does he have to even create the universe and more importantly us?
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#53 th3warr1or
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Fun I guess.. being omnipotent and omniscient could be potentially very boring, especially if you're the only being on that scale of power. At least the Norse gods fought among themselves with the Vanir and Aesir.
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#54 th3warr1or
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The same way how sometimes kids like to step on sandcastles, even though they know exactly what the outcome will be(and the punishment that follows)... Whatever little fun it provides from a monotonous life.
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#55 Maqda7
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I am going to be honest: That's probably the stupidest reason ever has anyone given me in responce to my question.
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#56 smc91352
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I would...Cynicism is where you allow people to convince you of something instead of faith where you are biased and believe statements without proof.

Do you have any proof? No one has shown any good proof so far.

And also: by that I don't mean that I'd necessarily be worshiping that god. Yahweh, in example, is a racist that I would never worship.

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#57 Ontain
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The same way how sometimes kids like to step on sandcastles, even though they know exactly what the outcome will be(and the punishment that follows)... Whatever little fun it provides from a monotonous life. th3warr1or
well mathematically it's more likely that we're all just an advanced computer simulation of some being who is not of a magical nature. so it could be a kid played an advanced SIMS game.
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#58 foxhound_fox
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The problem is, short of God showing himself to me and it being an objectively verifiable experience (that is, not something I could possibly imagine or hallucinate), I wouldn't need faith... I would be compelled to worship out of fear and dominance of God over me.

But yes, I would "convert"... though, that evidence will never be found, since belief in the supernatural requires faith and has no way of being proven objectively... since then it would cease being "supernatural" and just become "natural," in turn, stop being in the realm of religion, and become part of science. So realistically, I still wouldn't become a "Christian" if God was proven, I'd just become a scientist who has proof of God's existence and worships not out of faith, but out of objective reality.

Its an odd thing, proof.

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#59 _Tobli_
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Well I did mention that the God I was referring to was the God of the Abrahamic faiths, so how is that silly? th3warr1or

You didn't specify that in a general sense for the topic.

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#60 D_Battery
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Wouldn't that be quite silly, since your fate(and in hence if he exists, afterlife and eternal punishment and stuff is real) is kinda in his hands lol._Tobli_

Not really..., I think it's just as silly how you presume all those things based on the most common gods in our culture.

Question: if a man was holding a gun to your head demanding that you worship him, ought he to be worshipped simply because he holds your fate within his hands?
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#61 SaintLeonidas
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If by "convert" you mean pray and worship this newly discovered god, no I would not.-Sun_Tzu-
^^ This, I may start to believe there is a god after seeing evidence but I still wouldn't go joining any religions.

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#62 SegaGenesisfan
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Serraph105"] but people believe in evolution due to substantial evidence despite the fact it remains a theory. Why not God?

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Pretty much these. Nobody has SEEN evolution happening. Just the REMAINS of what happened.

well we've seen evolution on the microscopic level. but if we're talking about large animals that a process that takes millions of years. there may be no one point along that time that we can say "oh here's the point where it's now another species" because it's gradual. but we can track the process like slideshows with fossil records and dna.

No fossil records count as proof, you can not prove any of them had kids, besides the fossils we got, are ones that are either extinct dinosaurs, dead things that exist today, and there is no telling what a fossil really is. All you can use is imagination, humans have too much imagination as it is. ANyways...

Theory:

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Evolution is only a theory because it is widely accepted, but one that still has yet to be proven (because we can not observe it, so it can not be confirmed), notice the word or, and sure we can make prediction. But, only in our vain imaginations. The difference is that you see the fact (fossil, sand, animals), but just because you can explain why you think they got there, does not mean the explanation actually is true.

What I think most people mean when they say theory is a proposed idea that may, or may not be provened, that is what they are trying to say, they are not using the dictionary definition. It is called denotative word.

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#63 Bourbons3
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If I found enough evidence for God's existence, I'd start believing in God. But I wouldn't convert to Christianity, or any other religion.
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#64 RationalAtheist
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Question: if a man was holding a gun to your head demanding that you worship him, ought he to be worshipped simply because he holds your fate within his hands?

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That would depend what he means by "worship"...

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#65 D_Battery
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[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

[QUOTE="D_Battery"]

Question: if a man was holding a gun to your head demanding that you worship him, ought he to be worshipped simply because he holds your fate within his hands?

That would depend what he means by "worship"...

I would think in the general sense of adulation, submission etc.
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#66 nimatoad2000
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their is no point to this thread since it is impossible.

EDIT : fianally off my "5 day" suspension...

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#67 Maqda7
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[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

Pretty much these. Nobody has SEEN evolution happening. Just the REMAINS of what happened. th3warr1or
well we've seen evolution on the microscopic level. but if we're talking about large animals that a process that takes millions of years. there may be no one point along that time that we can say "oh here's the point where it's now another species" because it's gradual. but we can track the process like slideshows with fossil records and dna.

No fossil records count as proof, you can not prove any of them had kids, besides the fossils we got, are ones that are either extinct dinosaurs, dead things that exist today, and there is no telling what a fossil really is. All you can use is imagination, humans have too much imagination as it is. ANyways...

Theory:

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Evolution is only a theory because it is widely accepted, but one that still has yet to be proven (because we can not observe it, so it can not be confirmed), notice the word or, and sure we can make prediction. But, only in our vain imaginations. The difference is that you see the fact (fossil, sand, animals), but just because you can explain why you think they got there, does not mean the explanation actually is true.

What I think most people mean when they say theory is a proposed idea that may, or may not be provened, that is what they are trying to say, they are not using the dictionary definition. It is called denotative word.

This is from the genesis union written by BumFluff: It is often questioned why so and so fossil hasn't been discovered yet if evolution is true. This is because fossilization of a creature is very rare and some types of environments are relatively bad for fossilization. In this post I'll try and give a list of fossilization methods and a more indepth explanation of the human family tree. Fossilization is so rare due to the fact that in order to fossilize a creature must be covered rather quickly with sediment or the bones will decompose. They have to be covered with in a matter of days. Actually today bodies of dead creatures begin getting infested within a matter of hours. Exceptions to this rule include the freezing of an animal, dessication or storage in extreme dryness or if the fossil comes to rest in an oxyge-free environment. Fossilization of animals is more likely to occur with those with hardened body parts as opposed to soft body parts such as Jelly Fish and so on. Types of preservation occur under different types of environments and different types of conditions. Permineralization: When an organism dies and the pockets formerly filled with gasses or liquidsfill with minerals from ground water Casts and Molds: A mold is formed when an organism has been quickly covered by sediment which hardens and the organism disolves. A cast is formed when the mold becomes filled with minerals that then solidify. Replacement and Recrystalization: Occurs when parts of the fossil (shell,bone or other tissue)are replaced with another mineral. Compression: Occurs when the original tissue is chemically changed and existsin another chemical state. Bioimmuration: Occurs when a skeletal organism overgrows the original in a sort of external mold. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil) A baby mammoth that was fossilized in ice. Below is a timeline of human evolution ouytling the major events, discoveries and important recent archeological finds. Approximately 4000 million years ago the first single celled organisms form. 3900 million years ago cells resembling prokaryotes appear. 2500 million years ago the first organisms to utilize oxygen appear. 1200 million years ago sexual reproduction evolves an enables more rapid evolutionary change. 900 million years ago Choanoflagellate, a unicellular creature, appear and may be the ancestors to sponges and all other multicellular creatures. The live in colonies and show a primitive level of cellular specialization. 600 million years ago the earliest multicellular creatures appear. 580 million years ago the movement of all more advanced animal evolution begins with the formation of Cnidaria. 550 million years ago flatworms are the first animals to have a brain. 540 million years ago Acorn Worms are the first worm-like creatures to have a heart and a circulatory system. 530 million years ago the earliest known ancestor to both chordates and vertebrates appears known as Pikaia. 505 million years ago the first vertebrates appear. 480 million years ago the first jawed fishes appeared in the form of Placodermi. Their head and thorax were armor plated. 400 million years ago the first Coelacanth appearsand is today considered to be a living fossil. 375 million years ago Tiktaalik appear. Fossils of this creature, with many features akin to four legged animals which lead to the evolution of amphibians, were found in Nunavut, Canada. 365 million years ago the first tetrapod appears 315 million years ago the first animal to have recognizable limbs appears in the form of Acanthostega. 300 million years ago the first reptiles appear. 256 million years ago the first mammal-like reptiles appear. 220 million years ago a group known as Cynodonts form more mammal-like features. 125 million years ago a creature know as an Eomaia leads to the formation of modern placental mammals. 100 million years ago the last common genetic ancestor of mice and humans exists. 65 million years ago a group of small, nocturnal and arborealinsect-eating mammals known as Euarchonta leads to a speciation that will lead to primate, tree shrew and flying lemur orders. 47 million years ago a transitional form between prosimians (lemur and other primative primates) and simians (monkeys and apes) appear. ("Missing Link" Photos: New Fossil Links Humans, Lemurs?) 40 million years ago primates diverge into suborders. 30 million years ago Haplorrhini (dry-nosed primates) split into infraorders of Platyrhinni (New world monkeys) and Catarhinni (Old world monkeys, apes and humans). 25 million years ago Catarhinni split into Old world monkeys and apes. 15 million years ago the great apes split speciate from the ancestors of the Gibbon. 13 million years ago Homininae speciate from the Hominidae (The Great Apes). 10 million years ago Hominini speciate from the ancestors of Gorillas. 7 million years ago Hominina speciate from ancestors of the Chimpanzee. 4.4 million years ago Ardipthecus Ramidus Ramidus exists during the Pliocene. Australopithecus Afarensis left footprints in volcanic ash in Laetoli, Kenya. Evidence of bipedalism. 3.5 million years ago Kenyanthropus Platytops emerges from the Australopithecus genus. Kenyanthropus Platytops 3 million years ago bipedal Australopithecenes are hunted by Dinofelis in the savannas of Africa. Loss of body hair takes place. 2.5 million years ago marks the appearance of the Homo genus. First stone tool use. Homo Habilils 1.8 million years ago Homo Erectus evolves in Africa and later moves otu of Africa and begins colonizing Eurasia. Homo Erectus (Notice the brow ridges) 1.5 million years ago control of fire by early humans is achieved. The evolution of dark skin begins. 516 thousand years ago the last common genetic ancestor of modern humans and Neanderthal exists. 355 thousand years ago 3 five feet tall Homo Heidelbergensis left footprints in volcanic ash in Italy. 195 thousand years ago the earliest remains of Homo Sapiens are burried in Ethiopia near the Omo river. 160 thousand years ago Homo Sapiens in Ethiopia practice mortuary rituals and butcher hippos. 150 thousand years ago Mitochondrial Eve lives in East Africa. She is the most recent X-chromosonal ancestor common to allmitochondrial lineages alive today. 70 thousand years ago the human form of the FOXP2 gene (mentioned in a previous post) appears. 60 thousand years ago Y-chromosonal Adam, the most recent common ancestor to all Y-chromosonal males alive today, lives in Africa. 50 thousand years ago begin the migration to South Asia. 40 thousand years ago begins the migration to Australia and Europe. 25 thousand years ago Neanderthals die out. 12 thousand years ago the evolution of light skin in Europeans occurs. The first domestication of the dog. Homo Florensis dies out. 10 thousand years ago the invention of farming int he fertile crescent occurs. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution)
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#68 Gog
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If empirical evidence about god could be found, there would no longer be any need for faith.

In other words, religion only exists because there is no evidence.

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#69 smc91352
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their is no point to this thread since it is impossible.

EDIT : fianally off my "5 day" suspension...

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+1; and as a coincidence: I just got off a 2-day suspension that was enforced 'cause I linked the Barney Frank video to a guy trying to "argue" for Christianity. It was supposed to be 1-day, but the jerk who reported me waited 'till 12:01 to report.

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#70 MrPraline
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fianally off my "5 day" suspension...nimatoad2000
Haha, I feel your pain. Days must not last 24 hours in Gamespot time. :V
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#71 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Pretty much these. Nobody has SEEN evolution happening. Just the REMAINS of what happened. SegaGenesisfan

well we've seen evolution on the microscopic level. but if we're talking about large animals that a process that takes millions of years. there may be no one point along that time that we can say "oh here's the point where it's now another species" because it's gradual. but we can track the process like slideshows with fossil records and dna.

No fossil records count as proof, you can not prove any of them had kids, besides the fossils we got, are ones that are either extinct dinosaurs, dead things that exist today, and there is no telling what a fossil really is. All you can use is imagination, humans have too much imagination as it is. ANyways...

Theory:

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Evolution is only a theory because it is widely accepted, but one that still has yet to be proven (because we can not observe it, so it can not be confirmed), notice the word or, and sure we can make prediction. But, only in our vain imaginations. The difference is that you see the fact (fossil, sand, animals), but just because you can explain why you think they got there, does not mean the explanation actually is true.

What I think most people mean when they say theory is a proposed idea that may, or may not be provened, that is what they are trying to say, they are not using the dictionary definition. It is called denotative word.

I think you're missing all the supporting evidence. like genetic traces. also now if seems like you're going to discredit other fields of science which supports evolution like paleontology and most of biology. since it's knowledge that we get from the other fields to support this theory. also realize that theory is the highest standard. its not just any hypothesis. now it you think that theory is not good enough you'll have to deal with the fact that every new technology and scientific breakthrough will have it's base on theories which are not proven as well (and may never be provable). for example cell theory says that new cells are formed from other existing cells, and that the cell is a fundamental unit of structure, function and organization in all living organisms. now we can't prove that. we can however disprove it if we ever come across a case that this is not true for but there's no proving it.
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#72 _Tobli_
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Question: if a man was holding a gun to your head demanding that you worship him, ought he to be worshipped simply because he holds your fate within his hands?D_Battery

Was this for me or th3warrior?

As for an answer:

Should i worship? Maybe

Can i legitimately worship? Probably not.

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#73 HipYoungster42
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They'd have to, or they'd be pretty big hypocrites.:P

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#74 comp_atkins
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if substantial evidence was presented then yes, i would acknowledge that a deity exists. though it wouldn't cause me to convert to a particular religion, just accept that a god exists.
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#75 MrPraline
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They'd have to, or they'd be pretty big hypocrites.:P

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No, acknowledging his existance is not the same as following the religion (which involves praying and worship).
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the definition of the words belief and faith pretty much mean that people who .. sorry for lack of a better term , "believe" do so with no evidence whatsoever, just the same in believing in anything else. thus if their was evidence for god, or he came down and talked to use all, it wouldnt be a believe anymore. it would be a concrete fact that their is a god. people mistake believe with facts.. people say " i dont believe in evolution" "i dont believe in global warming" .. these are not things you can or cannot believe in, THEY ARE FACTS. if god came down to earth and was like sup guys, and then he proved he was god by saying he was going to lift mount everest into the sky, and then did so. belief is out the window. their is a god. and everyone would have to acknowlege that. again. this thread is pointless because that will never happen. and sitting around thinking of " what if's " that will never happen is a waste of time.
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#77 RationalAtheist
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I wonder how Christians would react if it were proven (on their terms) that the Islamic faith was the one true religion.

Or how Muslims would respond to a proven Christian, or even an Abrahamic God.

Hmm?

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#78 nimatoad2000
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people just need to watch this video

George Carlin and Bill Maher toghether, the perfect Duo to kill make religion look completely silly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_bYnvR_fRg&NR=1

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#79 MrPraline
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I wonder how Christians would react if it were proven (on their terms) that the Islamic faith was the one true religion.

Or how Muslims would respond to a proven Christian, or even an Abrahamic God.

Hmm?

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I wouldn't want to be around to see the cluster**** ensue, that's for sure.
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#80 Rikusaki
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I would want to see him myself and have him prove to me that he created the Universe. :)

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#81 avatar_genius
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Yes, there would be no reason to stay atheist if God was shown to truly be there with proof, to stay Atheist would just be to deny important evidence.
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Yes, there would be no reason to stay atheist if God was shown to truly be there with proof, to stay Atheist would just be to deny important evidence.avatar_genius
but would you argue that if god presented himself, should we pray to him? should we worship him? i personally would not.
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#83 avatar_genius
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]Yes, there would be no reason to stay atheist if God was shown to truly be there with proof, to stay Atheist would just be to deny important evidence.nimatoad2000
but would you argue that if god presented himself, should we pray to him? should we worship him? i personally would not.

I suppose that's another debate.

But if he showed his face out of the clouds for everyone to see, it would be foolish to deny he was there.

I am not sure about the worshipping thing.

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#84 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="avatar_genius"]Yes, there would be no reason to stay atheist if God was shown to truly be there with proof, to stay Atheist would just be to deny important evidence.avatar_genius

but would you argue that if god presented himself, should we pray to him? should we worship him? i personally would not.

I suppose that's another debate.

But if he showed his face out of the clouds for everyone to see, it would be foolish to deny he was there.

I think it's the same debate. The OP asked us if we would convert. Converting to his religion would involve praying and worship. If the evidence was convincing enough, I would acknowledge his existance, but I would not worship him.
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#85 smc91352
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[QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] but would you argue that if god presented himself, should we pray to him? should we worship him? i personally would not.MrPraline

I suppose that's another debate.

But if he showed his face out of the clouds for everyone to see, it would be foolish to deny he was there.

I think it's the same debate. The OP asked us if we would convert. Converting to his religion would involve praying and worship. If the evidence was convincing enough, I would acknowledge his existance, but I would not worship him.

+1; and btw I wouldn't convert if the god was Yahweh. If it was some other god, I'd have to do some research.

I'm not gonna be the guy who says all gods are evil when I haven't read up on some gods' supposed history.

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#86 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="avatar_genius"]

I suppose that's another debate.

But if he showed his face out of the clouds for everyone to see, it would be foolish to deny he was there.

smc91352

I think it's the same debate. The OP asked us if we would convert. Converting to his religion would involve praying and worship. If the evidence was convincing enough, I would acknowledge his existance, but I would not worship him.

+1; and btw I wouldn't convert if the god was Yahweh. If it was some other god, I'd have to do some research.

I'm not gonna be the guy who says all gods are evil when I haven't read up on some gods' supposed history.

Agreed. I assumed we were talking about the Christian god.
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#87 STAR_Admiral
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

No, substantial evidence...

I want to see him myself.

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but people believe in evolution due to substantial evidence despite the fact it remains a theory. Why not God?

Pretty much these. Nobody has SEEN evolution happening. Just the REMAINS of what happened.

your seriously joking right? or i guess you have not done enough reading. We SEE evolution all the time in microorganisms such as bacteria. There have also been over 60 documented cases of speciation in the plant and animal kingdom over the past 150 years.
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#88 ghoklebutter
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Well since I already believe god exists I would just be surprised. And I already believe in a religion.

It would be illogical to not acknowledge God. I believe the Islamic God is true, although not many people agree with that. :P

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#89 Silenthps
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People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig.
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#91 MrPraline
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People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. Silenthps
In our what?

You are wrong. We know and do no such thing.

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#92 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. MrPraline

In our what?

You are wrong. We know and do no such thing.

Yet another fault with the Bible. :P

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#93 roosuu
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No. I would never worship a god who allows such misery in our world to happen.
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#94 ghoklebutter
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No. I would never worship a god who allows such misery in our world to happen.roosuu

When was the last time you met God? :?

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[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

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This is from the genesis union written by BumFluff: It is often questioned why so and so fossil hasn't been discovered yet if evolution is true. This is because fossilization of a creature is very rare and some types of environments are relatively bad for fossilization. In this post I'll try and give a list of fossilization methods and a more indepth explanation of the human family tree. Fossilization is so rare due to the fact that in order to fossilize a creature must be covered rather quickly with sediment or the bones will decompose.They have to be covered with in a matter of days. Actually today bodies of dead creatures begin getting infested within a matter of hours. Exceptions to this rule include the freezing of an animal, dessication or storage in extreme dryness or if the fossil comes to rest in an oxyge-free environment. Fossilization of animals is more likely to occur with those with hardened body parts as opposed to soft body parts such as Jelly Fish and so on. Types of preservation occur under different types of environments and different types of conditions. Permineralization: When an organism dies and the pockets formerly filled with gasses or liquidsfill with minerals from ground water Casts and Molds: A mold is formed when an organism has been quickly covered by sediment which hardens and the organism disolves. A cast is formed when the mold becomes filled with minerals that then solidify. Replacement and Recrystalization: Occurs when parts of the fossil (shell,bone or other tissue)are replaced with another mineral. Compression: Occurs when the original tissue is chemically changed and existsin another chemical state. Bioimmuration: Occurs when a skeletal organism overgrows the original in a sort of external mold. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil)

Sounds like a flood that covered the earth is a really good explanation of the vaste ammount of fossils in the earth, ever used gas, they are called fossil fuels. So, you are using your ancestors to fuel your nice chick picker upper:P. Everything else you said was what you believe in, prove it with observable science, believe me I remember that cl@ss I also remember not really caring about the cl@ss but after research, I know why. Dude, you have been brainwashed, I feel sorry for you, yo I will let you finish, and I am really happy for you. But god had one of the best floods of all time. OF ALL TIME!

I can not believe you are willing to believe in the "MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO" myth, I mean your trusting a person about that, yet you believe a relatively six thousand year old book has no chance in being true.

You all realise that Jesus did come to Earth, it did not mean anything that he came to Earth, if anything all it revealed is that people hate god, nothing else. Think about it, they wanted to kill him as a child. The only way people would continue to believe in him, is if he was there every single year everywhere, children would eventually be born, so he would constantly have to be around, but there is one problem. We hate him, so he does not really want to be around us. Get it, read the old testement, he was there, people just did not want to obey. It did not matter how close he was.

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#96 RationalAtheist
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People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. Silenthps

That's as silly as saying Christians are really atheists who like playing the tambourine on Sunday.

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#97 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. RationalAtheist

That's as silly as saying Christians are really atheists who like playing the tambourine on Sunday.

Lol why a tambourine? :lol:

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People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. Silenthps
lol your soo full of yourself . also your sig has a typo. way to fail
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#99 theone86
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Would I believe that there was a god if there was proof of a god? Yes. Would I convert? No. God's going to have to do a lot more than just prove its existence ifit wants me to worship it.

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#100 SegaGenesisfan
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OH, and you forgot your comma after lol. Lol, time to stop trying to be a grammer nazi hypocryte.