Atheists: If Substantial Evidence Of a God was Proven/Discovered/Shown...

I would have to see him/her/it for myself

I tend to believe things I can see, like most people

:| if there was evidence then yes, quite obvious. We have nothing against God, we don't believe in him because we don't like him. Brainkiller05

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. nimatoad2000

Sounds like a flood that covered the earth is a really good explanation of the vaste ammount of fossils in the earth SegaGenesisfan

Not really...

Here is a hint to one of the reasons why not: Geology,layers,water

]I can not believe you are willing to believe in the "MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO" myth, I mean your trusting a person about that, yet you believe a relatively six thousand year old book has no chance in being true. segagenesisfan

The scientific method, blind test, peer review, checking against items with a known age,etc. vs. Bible

I'll go with the one that has the best track record. Which would be science.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]People who call themselves "atheist" already believe God exist, they just suppress the truth, in their ________, of his existence. As shown by the verse in my sig. Silenthps

[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]Sounds like a flood that covered the earth is a really good explanation of the vaste ammount of fossils in the earth _Tobli_

Not really...

Here is a hint to one of the reasons why not: Geology,layers,water

]I can not believe you are willing to believe in the "MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO" myth, I mean your trusting a person about that, yet you believe a relatively six thousand year old book has no chance in being true. segagenesisfan

The scientific method, blind test, peer review, checking against items with a known age,etc. vs. Bible

I'll go with the one that has the best track record. Which would be science.

You realise that Abraham ummm died because science back then thought that was the way to get rid of disease, also by cutting off limbs uneccesarily (I think). If they would of just read their bibles, Abraham would of moved on possibly. Did you just say blind test? Sounds like that is what all those test for known age are, just blind attempts to figure out age, without being able to actually confirm it. The bible has historical accuracy. It has science in it that no one could of found back then.

http://www.pinpointevangelism.com/Science_and_the_Bible.pdf

The world only caught up in the last century, or like seventy years. Testing the age of the Earth has been debunked over and over, according to Evolution theory minerals were so different, that they would not have the same half-life. It just is not possible to date the earth at all.

um... what?Silenthps

You realise that Abraham ummm died because science back then thought that was the way to get rid of disease, also by cutting off limbs uneccesarily (I think). If they would of just read their bibles, Abraham would of moved on possibly. Did you just say blind test? Sounds like that is what all those test for known age are, just blind attempts to figure out age, without being able to actually confirm it. The bible has historical accuracy. It has science in it that no one could of found back then.

http://www.pinpointevangelism.com/Science_and_the_Bible.pdf

Science only caught up in the last 70 whatever years, or century.

SegaGenesisfan

Wasn't Abraham 175 or so at the time? Wouldn't old age have figured somewhere as a cause of death?

What science are you describing that can be found in the bible, that "no one could have found back then"?

[QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]

They'd have to, or they'd be pretty big hypocrites.:P

MrPraline

No, I'm just saying that they'd have to believe he exists, or they would be hypocrites.:P I'm not sayin' anything about worship.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]um... what?MrPraline

No, I'm just saying that they'd have to believe he exists, or they would be hypocrites.:P I'm not sayin' anything about worship.

HipYoungster42

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" :V :V :V-Chimera-

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]um... what?-Chimera-

I noticed an old browser tab pointed here and took a screenshot to clear things up:

How bad is the sin of bearing false witness?

[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

You realise that Abraham ummm died because science back then thought that was the way to get rid of disease, also by cutting off limbs uneccesarily (I think). If they would of just read their bibles, Abraham would of moved on possibly. Did you just say blind test? Sounds like that is what all those test for known age are, just blind attempts to figure out age, without being able to actually confirm it. The bible has historical accuracy. It has science in it that no one could of found back then.

http://www.pinpointevangelism.com/Science_and_the_Bible.pdf

Science only caught up in the last 70 whatever years, or century.

RationalAtheist

Wasn't Abraham 175 or so at the time? Wouldn't old age have figured somewhere as a cause of death?

What science are you describing that can be found in the bible, that "no one could have found back then"?

I am talking about Abraham Linkcoln, and did I not post a website? Perhaps I should of linkified it.

if there's proof of a giant spaghetti monster I'd believe in that too...

Why do people equate god to being a flying speghetti monster? Talk about a false view of god, no one has ever claimed him to be made of speghetti, or that he is a monster >_>. Looks like someone is commiting idolatry.

Why do people equate god to being a flying speghetti monster? Talk about a false view of god, no one has ever claimed him to be made of speghetti, or that he is a monster >_>. Looks like someone is commiting idolatry.

SegaGenesisfan

I am talking about Abraham Linkcoln, and did I not post a website? Perhaps I should of linkified it.

SegaGenesisfan

Oh, wrong Abraham. I can't see any reason to reject science because of an incident happening nearly 150 years ago.

I visited the website you posted, but the site gets what was "known at the time" wrong in many instances.

Others would be simply reasoned: For example, the circularity of the Earth is no surprise. You can see the curvature of the earth at sea and the Sun and Moon are also round.

I believe God exists, but I have a very different notion of what he is comparing to the Christian God.

Still, if I see God in the form of a person I would like to have a conversation with him.

The bible has historical accuracy. It has science in it that no one could of found back then.

http://www.pinpointevangelism.com/Science_and_the_Bible.pdf

SegaGenesisfan

The Earth is a Sphere Science and the Bible

1) The phrase used in the Bible in that passage is "circle" a 2D object. That table changed it to sphere to sound more correct. BUT.....

2) Science now does not, nor ever did claim Earth is a sphere. It's an oblate spheroid, it's larger around the equator; it is not a sphere and certainly not a circle.

For the Bible to claim this makes the Bible WRONG. For it to claim science calls the Earth a sphere is WRONG.

2) The Ancient Greeks also understood the Earth was not flat. This was not a new discovery.

Edit: Oh God, the rest are even worse.

Here, I found this to help you break your pseudoscientific superstitions.

It depends on the god, really. If the abrahamic god was proven to exist beyond all doubt I think I would sink into a depression so severe it would last me the rest of my life. The world would be a sad, sad place if that happened...

I'd be happy to convert to pretty much any other religion if it's god(s) was proven to exist, though.

I would eat him and absorb his power like in marvel zombies...

Id belive but convert? thats still in the air probably would if I thought I was going to die soon as burning in hell forever would suck. yea I know that probably not be enough to get me into heaven I have to truly except god blah blah blah

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]The same way how sometimes kids like to step on sandcastles, even though they know exactly what the outcome will be(and the punishment that follows)... Whatever little fun it provides from a monotonous life. Ontain

So hows this thread going so far ? I was expecting like a 35 page from this thread, Or is everyone tired of arguing the same thing over and over again?Bloodseeker23

[QUOTE="Bloodseeker23"]So hows this thread going so far ? I was expecting like a 35 page from this thread, Or is everyone tired of arguing the same thing over and over again?th3warr1or

Would you convert? th3warr1or

convert? no, I still wouldnt believe in organized religion.

but I'd stop being an atheist

But technically, if everything is true, then wouldn't not believing in the Abrahamic God be quite risky, seeing as how you could probably end up down there? th3warr1or

I don't think God would be terribly impressed if you believed in him "just in case".

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Bloodseeker23"]So hows this thread going so far ? I was expecting like a 35 page from this thread, Or is everyone tired of arguing the same thing over and over again?smc91352

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]But technically, if everything is true, then wouldn't not believing in the Abrahamic God be quite risky, seeing as how you could probably end up down there? GabuEx

I don't think God would be terribly impressed if you believed in him "just in case".

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]But technically, if everything is true, then wouldn't not believing in the Abrahamic God be quite risky, seeing as how you could probably end up down there? GabuEx

I don't think God would be terribly impressed if you believed in him "just in case".

I wonder how many people consider themselves Christians and do not genuinely believe in the God and the Bible, and live the lifestyle.

True, so wouldn't one then [Honestly, I don't know how], but like TRY to "really" believe?th3warr1or

I'm not really sure I understand where belief comes into play if you have actual hard evidence in favor of God's existence.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]But technically, if everything is true, then wouldn't not believing in the Abrahamic God be quite risky, seeing as how you could probably end up down there? LikeHaterade

I don't think God would be terribly impressed if you believed in him "just in case".

I wonder how many people consider themselves Christians and do not genuinely believe in the God and the Bible, and live the lifestyle.

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]True, so wouldn't one then [Honestly, I don't know how], but like TRY to "really" believe?GabuEx

I'm not really sure I understand where belief comes into play if you have actual hard evidence in favor of God's existence.

Well I'm sure most extremely compelled pastors/catholics/christians who speak in tongues/do exorcisms(that actually work to them, and isn't abusive) probably use that as an "evidence" to themselves of God's existence, therefore I *think* it would be possible.. I could be wrong, and I probably am. th3warr1or

Their brains work just the same as anyone else's; either you see evidence for God's existence or you don't, and if you don't, then telling yourself that you do is wishful thinking, not bona fide belief.

At any rate, in its original, untranslated form, the Bible doesn't speak of any eternal hell at all; that was a pagan infusion into the Church's traditions that came much later. So, frankly, I think viewing the escape of hell as the purpose of following Jesus is really missing the entire point, anyway.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]But technically, if everything is true, then wouldn't not believing in the Abrahamic God be quite risky, seeing as how you could probably end up down there? th3warr1or

I don't think God would be terribly impressed if you believed in him "just in case".

Depends which god was shown to exist. If it was Brahman, Shiva, Vishnu or Waheguru, I would consider it. Otherwise no.