Atheists smarter than theists?

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#1 IveDatedUrMom
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http://www.inquisitr.com/900122/are-atheists-smarter-than-believers-new-massive-study-says/

 

so is it official? does that change anything?

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#2 wis3boi
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atheists are not smarter than theists, just that the more education (formal and self taught) one goes through, the less likely they are to be a theist, or at least follow a personal god.  That much is evident, but proposing it backwards is just silly

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#3 applesxc47
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Shut up, shut up, this thread has been done a thousand times, shut up.

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#4 IveDatedUrMom
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Shut up, shut up, this thread has been done a thousand times, shut up.

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who is forcing you to read off topic then? get out
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#6 0diN_7
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Shut up, shut up, this thread has been done a thousand times, shut up.

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What? This is the first time this thread has ever been made. Stop telling lies. No, atheists aren't smarter they are just more willing to take facts about reality as truth. Theists tend to base reality on beliefs that can't be proved. Atheists are willing to accept facts. Theists aren't. Done.
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#7 AdrianWerner
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On average? I bet they do. Masses are religious, while atheism is a small niche of society, existing mostly well educated ones. This severly skews the research though. You would need to compare atheists vs theists in the very same social groups (education, wealth, position etc) to see if being theist or atheist is connected to intelligence.

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#9 indzman
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there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.SNIPER4321

you are smarter than all of them :)

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#10 0diN_7
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.

I saw those guys at the comedy club a few weeks back. So charming they were with all of their feigned intelligence. I wonder where they get it? It must be from the funnies they read. 'Tis the funnies I would say.
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#12 0diN_7
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.

Oh and honey, I do suggest that you consider a course in English. You're a tad off the mark when it comes to the proper p's and q's.
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#13 0diN_7
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.SNIPER4321

you are smarter than all of them :)

Athiest are only exist on internet. in real life i have yet to meet any athiest. but in internet there are all over it. athiest are minoerities in the world by why is that in internet there are 80% athiest???

Madam, I am an atheist in real life, as well as, on the interwebies.
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#15 0diN_7
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="0diN_7"] Oh and honey,.

why calling me "honey"/???

Madam, Why not tree bark? Why not gravel? You are a misses are you not?
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="0diN_7"] Madam, Why not tree bark? Why not gravel? You are a misses are you not?

I am a Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qcXjMQyWk
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#18 0diN_7
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[QUOTE="Nude_Dude"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="0diN_7"] Madam, Why not tree bark? Why not gravel? You are a misses are you not?

I am a Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qcXjMQyWk

I laughed at that but only because I was compelled to by sky daddy.
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#19 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.SNIPER4321

you are smarter than all of them :)

Athiest are only exist on internet. in real life i have yet to meet any athiest. but in internet there are all over it. athiest are minoerities in the world by why is that in internet there are 80% athiest???

We internetians are a far superior race
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#20 hippiesanta
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Saudi Fury vs Wis3boi I would say Saudi Fury
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#21 Barbariser
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This is statistically true, with Judaism being the only exception, but as the article notes it doesn't really mean anything conclusive about whether religion is correct or not.

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#22 foxhound_fox
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On average? I wouldn't doubt the numbers are heavily skewed in one direction. We're talking about more than 3/4's of the world's population here. On an individual by individual basis? Worthless to consider.
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#23 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.SNIPER4321

you are smarter than all of them :)

Athiest are only exist on internet. in real life i have yet to meet any athiest.

In your country.
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#24 Renevent42
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This is statistically true, with Judaism being the only exception, but as the article notes it doesn't really mean anything conclusive about whether religion is correct or not.

Barbariser
Go Jews! But yeah, I don't doubt the results of the study.
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#25 LJS9502_basic
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Considering the number of adherents....I'd say the study is worthless. Religious belief isn't defined by how intelligent one is or isn't and it's foolish to try to link them.
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#26 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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Atheists are the most annoying people I've ever seen. I'm from England and people over here just don't care enough about religion to label themselves as Atheist but they don't think they are smarter just because they don't believe in a religion like all the morons on the internet seem to. Atheists seem more religious than most religious people and certainly more annoying
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#27 foxhound_fox
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[...] it's foolish to try to link them.LJS9502_basic
Is it? Then why are the vast majority of scientists atheist and/or non-religious? It couldn't be that they have access to higher levels of education and gain a better understanding of the world around them and not have to resort to superstitious answers.
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#28 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][...] it's foolish to try to link them.foxhound_fox
Is it? Then why are the vast majority of scientists atheist and/or non-religious? It couldn't be that they have access to higher levels of education and gain a better understanding of the world around them and not have to resort to superstitious answers.

In the past most of the populations were religious....and scientists did exist then.:|
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#30 Renevent42
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Early scientists and mathematicians were all muslims. then after that scientists were christians and jews. athiesm was not exist back than.SNIPER4321

Outright false statements.

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#31 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]there are comedians like richard dawkins and sam harris. so i dont think they are smarter.SNIPER4321

you are smarter than all of them :)

Athiest are only exist on internet. in real life i have yet to meet any athiest.but in internet there are all over it. athiest are minoerities in the world by why is that in internet there are 80% athiest???

probably because there aren't too many atheists in Pakistan, and the few that are would be scared to come out.

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#32 themajormayor
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Nah atheists have been been proven to be more stupid by looking at this forum
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#33 ferrari2001
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Skewed results. Atheism as it stands today is a niche population existing in a small percent of the total population. Spreading mostly in colleges and academic settings. This results is that this percentage of atheists are better educated then Christians overall, which exists in a huge chuck of the population. For an accurate result of whether religion or atheism effects education level and intelligence you would have to test this from the same socioeconomic and cultural area. I would imagine the results then would be very similar.
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#34 LJS9502_basic
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Skewed results. Atheism as it stands today is a niche population existing in a small percent of the total population. Spreading mostly in colleges and academic settings. This results is that this percentage of atheists are better educated then Christians overall, which exists in a huge chuck of the population. For an accurate result of whether religion or atheism effects education level and intelligence you would have to test this from the same socioeconomic and cultural area. I would imagine the results then would be very similar. ferrari2001
I'm sure they would.....
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#35 Randolph
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Well, you can't broadly say that all theists are dumber than atheists. But their is in fact a correlation between increased religiosity and decreased intelligence. The statistical maps on poor education, violent crime, abortion, divorce, teen pregnancy all paint a damning picture for the South of the USA, where religion (in this case Christianity) is dominant amongst the population. Those same states are also welfare states that take in more money from the federal government than they send in.
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#36 LJS9502_basic
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Well, you can't broadly say that all theists are dumber than atheists. But their is in fact a correlation between increased religiosity and decreased intelligence. The statistical maps on poor education, violent crime, abortion, divorce, teen pregnancy all paint a damning picture for the South of the USA, where religion (in this case Christianity) is dominant amongst the population. Those same states are also welfare states that take in more money from the federal government than they send in.Randolph
I'd say poverty has a better correlation to education than religious belief. In fact, since historically religion has been prevalent....we've seen all economic classes and educated individuals that did follow religion. I realize that doesn't fit with the overall superiority complex of many internet atheists however and as such it's ignored.
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#37 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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Silly thread is silly.
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#38 Master_Live
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="0diN_7"] Madam, Why not tree bark? Why not gravel? You are a misses are you not?

I am a Man.

Are you 40?
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#39 Blood-Scribe
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="0diN_7"] Madam, Why not tree bark? Why not gravel? You are a misses are you not?Nude_Dude
I am a Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qcXjMQyWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1mryKqvT8

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#40 Blueresident87
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This changes nothing, and it's not exactly true. 

People who recieve an education are more likely to see through the whole religion thing, but I know plenty of stupid atheists and intelligent theists.

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#41 BeardMaster
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I would be surprised if it wasnt true.

 

Theism certainly seems like it would be appealing to the intellectually lazy... way less homework involved, and only one required reading on the subject.

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#42 MonoSilver
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Well they don't believe in something that can't be proven to even exist...
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#43 lostrib
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Just looking at OT, I'd say they're equally stupid

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#44 comp_atkins
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itt.. atheists try to use this study as evidence for the superiority of their beliefs, theists try to denounce the study as hogwash.

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#45 br0kenrabbit
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There are idiots on both sides of the aisle. What irks me most, however, is theists who don't know their shit. It's been a revelation to many people when I've told them The Bible wasn't written in English. I mean, come on...if you know that little about your faith, you have no business using it to condemn others.

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#46 MakeMeaSammitch
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Honest question. 

Is the inquisitor a good source? 

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#47 lightleggy
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Would be logical since the masses are religious, so you have to expect more dumb people amongst them.
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#48 lightleggy
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I would be surprised if it wasnt true.

 

Theism certainly seems like it would be appealing to the intellectually lazy... way less homework involved, and only one required reading on the subject.

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There is much more to theism than reading a holy text and going to a temple doingnothing but listening.
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#49 comp_atkins
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Honest question. 

Is the inquisitor a good source? 

MakeMeaSammitch
depends on your stance regarding the findings....
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#50 lamprey263
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interesting article though, at one point though it wasn't saying atheists and that way because they're smart, it's kind of correlates socioeconomic into things, being that smarter and usually more successful people that experience the rewards of self determination tend to embrace atheism while the poor cling to religion more, speculatively maybe because smarter people are more self determined and secure in their place whereas poor people are in need of the warmth and comfort and hope that religion provides a better title for this or more topics like this might be to observe trends with the atheism population against trends of the religious crowd, topics like this are more antagonistic than anything