Attempted suicide - Woman survives 23-story fall

Fail from above.

Did she get arrested afterwards for trying to kill herself?frostybanana

[QUOTE="frostybanana"]Did she get arrested afterwards for trying to kill herself?MystikFollower

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"][QUOTE="frostybanana"]Did she get arrested afterwards for trying to kill herself?frostybanana

I think they got something wrong in this article... You can't fall 23 stories and survive... The human body just can't do that...

I whiped out my physics book on this one:

Average height of a floor = 10 feet, So ~230 foot fall.

Fancy physics calculations reveal that if she simply stepped off, meaning initial velocity of 0... By the time she reached the ground she would be going over 132 km per hour (36.7m/s), and strike with a force equal to over 40,000 joules. If she dove off it would be even faster and with more energy...

To put that in perspective, a .50 cal bullet traveling at peak velocity strikes with 17,000 joules.

That's sad. I'm glad nobody else was hurt.

Today, a wheelchair bound woman jumped onto the MARTA train tracks here in Atlanta in an apparent suicide attempt after giving a note to a bystander. She suffered non-life threatening injuries and is facing charges.

I agree, most people who commit suicide think out their death in startling detail before then attempt it. It's the jumping in front of trains or off buildings that are the more dramatic ways of doing so. The worst part it, it affects others who do not know said person and not just family or friends.

I think they got something wrong in this article... You can't fall 23 stories and survive... The human body just can't do that...

I whiped out my physics book on this one:

Average height of a floor = 10 feet, So ~230 foot fall.

Fancy physics calculations reveal that if she simply stepped off, meaning initial velocity of 0... By the time she reached the ground she would be going over 132 km per hour (36.7m/s), and strike with a force equal to over 40,000 joules. If she dove off it would be even faster and with more energy...

To put that in perspective, a .50 cal bullet traveling at peak velocity strikes with 17,000 joules.

Buttons1990

the car roof absorbed the shock.

With that said, the human body really is incredible; it can endure far more stress, physical and mental, than we give it credit for. Couple that with modern medicine and its no wonder there are 7 billion people on this planet :) People have survived falling from planes, bear attacks, losing all four of their limbs, and had the human willpower to survive the trip to a hospital, endure the surgery, and endure the months of rehab (mental and/or physical) that follow.

THat is wake makes us humans so special; no other animal has the will to live so frequently in them but us.

Go human body! WOoooOOOO!

"her fall was broken by a parked taxi,"

Not the first thing I'd want to break my fall.

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]

What a selfish person.
She could have killed someone else…seems to be quite self-centered to do it in public like that.

I have never and will never attempt to dissuade someone from suicide.
They either want attention or really want to die. If you want to die, then die. IMO we have a right to both life and death.

But if you are going to take your own life, then don't be a selfish jackass about it...do it where it will not involve others (don't have to see it, can't be hurt, etc)

rawsavon

Not really. A lot of suicides are spur of the moment things.

This is why it's a bad idea for depressed people with suicide ideation to have access to firearms.

Moral of the story:

Don't get smashed with a Taxi. Just drink Vodka.

Crap I hope she had insurance to pay for her health bills. If not, taxpayers will pay for it. Probably would have been better for everyone for her to die. l4dak47

It was in Buenos Aires. Pretty sure they have universal healthcare. The US is one of the few countries left in the world other than some starving African countries that doesn't have universal healthcare.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"] It was selfish, but if you're brought to the point where you are ready to jump off a building (jumpers IMO are determined to kill themselves and are not crying out for help) then I don't think other people are going to be considered much. Plus, I doubt she planned on hitting a parked car. Sad to see and sad to know her life is only going to be much worse for her now. cmdrmonkey45

Not really. A lot of suicides are spur of the moment things.

This is why it's a bad idea for depressed people with suicide ideation to have access to firearms.

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Usually people that actually attempt suicide have done a great deal of planning...thought out most every part of it (buying the drink, removing the shoes, etc). I don't think considering others is being unreasonable. Hell, there are even ways that both sexes usually go about doing it...it is not some random act (also, she could have hit a person)rawsavon

Not really. A lot of suicides are spur of the moment things.

This is why it's a bad idea for depressed people with suicide ideation to have access to firearms.

I've only been through medical school and seen dozens of patients who have attempted suicide. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all.

So now she just made her life worse.

sonicare

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

Not really. A lot of suicides are spur of the moment things.

This is why it's a bad idea for depressed people with suicide ideation to have access to firearms.

cmdrmonkey45

I've only been through medical school and seen dozens of patients who have attempted suicide. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all.

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Not really...not at all. Most all suicides are planned (note the difference in an attempt and someone just looking for attention)rawsavon

I've only been through medical school and seen dozens of patients who have attempted suicide. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all.

You must have a really short last name.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

I'm sorry but how do you not die from failing from 23 stories. It honestly makes no sense, she lucked out.

LostProphetFLCL

What the article doesn't go into, is that the lady is part cat which is how she survived the fall:P

:?:D

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

I've only been through medical school and seen dozens of patients who have attempted suicide. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all.

You must have a really short last name.

Today, a wheelchair bound woman jumped onto the MARTA train tracks here in Atlanta in an apparent suicide attempt after giving a note to a bystander. She suffered non-life threatening injuries and is facing charges.

I agree, most people who commit suicide think out their death in startling detail before then attempt it. It's the jumping in front of trains or off buildings that are the more dramatic ways of doing so. The worst part it, it affects others who do not know said person and not just family or friends.

Today, a wheelchair bound woman jumped onto the MARTA train tracks here in Atlanta in an apparent suicide attempt after giving a note to a bystander. She suffered non-life threatening injuries and is facing charges.

I agree, most people who commit suicide think out their death in startling detail before then attempt it. It's the jumping in front of trains or off buildings that are the more dramatic ways of doing so. The worst part it, it affects others who do not know said person and not just family or friends.

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] I only have a degree in psychology and have been through tons of courses dealing with this very specific issue (not just what patients say to a doctor after the failed attempt). I guess I have no idea what I am talking about either

rawsavon

You must have a really short last name.

I do too. 3 letters and it sounds like a letter. Drives delivery guys nuts.

Today, a wheelchair bound woman jumped onto the MARTA train tracks here in Atlanta in an apparent suicide attempt after giving a note to a bystander. She suffered non-life threatening injuries and is facing charges.

I agree, most people who commit suicide think out their death in startling detail before then attempt it. It's the jumping in front of trains or off buildings that are the more dramatic ways of doing so. The worst part it, it affects others who do not know said person and not just family or friends.

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] I can't believe that attempted suicide is a crime now.-Big_Red-

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

I've only been through medical school and seen dozens of patients who have attempted suicide. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all.

A bachelors in psychology? LOL.

I have one of those too somewhere. I don't display it proudly because it's basically toilet paper. I dual majored in biology and psychology in undergrad.

Get a Phd or PsyD and see some actual patients and then we'll talk like grownups.

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] I only have a degree in psychology and have been through tons of courses dealing with this very specific issue (not just what patients say to a doctor after the failed attempt). I guess I have no idea what I am talking about either

rawsavon

A bachelors in psychology? LOL.

I have one of those too somewhere. I don't display it proudly because it's basically toilet paper. I dual majored in biology and psychology in undergrad.

Get a Phd or PsyD and see some actual patients and then we'll talk like grownups.

:P Come on Raw, you know he only brings that out during cocktail parties. Seriously, for having a PhD he's awfully defensive.

MystikFollower

Very. Though I don't doubt his training in dealing with the body.
It is what he says about the mind that I question. That is sophomore level psychology stuff (planning suicide).
But there always seems to be that reaction from the medical community (when dealing with things like this)

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Today, a wheelchair bound woman jumped onto the MARTA train tracks here in Atlanta in an apparent suicide attempt after giving a note to a bystander. She suffered non-life threatening injuries and is facing charges.

I agree, most people who commit suicide think out their death in startling detail before then attempt it. It's the jumping in front of trains or off buildings that are the more dramatic ways of doing so. The worst part it, it affects others who do not know said person and not just family or friends.

-Big_Red-

The charges are for disrupting a transportation system which is illegal. The video here has the details of the possible charges at ~ 2:00.

Should've just used a gun and not have put others lives at risk.

Why did it remind me of this?

thats like almost equivalent to getting shot in the face and live :?

I lol'd, it reminded me of last night's Chuck episode. :P

Why do people always try to kill them selves in public? why not do it at home where it wont harm anyone else and there would be nobody to stop you or call an ambulance?

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

I think they got something wrong in this article... You can't fall 23 stories and survive... The human body just can't do that...

I whiped out my physics book on this one:

Average height of a floor = 10 feet, So ~230 foot fall.

Fancy physics calculations reveal that if she simply stepped off, meaning initial velocity of 0... By the time she reached the ground she would be going over 132 km per hour (36.7m/s), and strike with a force equal to over 40,000 joules. If she dove off it would be even faster and with more energy...

To put that in perspective, a .50 cal bullet traveling at peak velocity strikes with 17,000 joules.

mrbojangles25

the car roof absorbed the shock.

With that said, the human body really is incredible; it can endure far more stress, physical and mental, than we give it credit for. Couple that with modern medicine and its no wonder there are 7 billion people on this planet :) People have survived falling from planes, bear attacks, losing all four of their limbs, and had the human willpower to survive the trip to a hospital, endure the surgery, and endure the months of rehab (mental and/or physical) that follow.

THat is wake makes us humans so special; no other animal has the will to live so frequently in them but us.

Go human body! WOoooOOOO!

"Aim for the bushes"

Holy....that's incredible.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="cmdrmonkey45"]

I've only been through medical school and seen dozens of patients who have attempted suicide. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all.

cmdrmonkey45

A bachelors in psychology? LOL.

I have one of those too somewhere. I don't display it proudly because it's basically toilet paper. I dual majored in biology and psychology in undergrad.

Get a Phd or PsyD and see some actual patients and then we'll talk like grownups.

More like 23 story fail.

__Chris__

Lol tell him again. That guy is a real pompous jerk. You have no idea what people who attempt suicide are thinking. I myself at points in my life considered "opting out" but when i look back at those times i say to myself "what the heck was I thinking?". So no, i'd say in most cases, people are sincerely going through depressing times and thus make irrational decisions.

JJ_Productions

Since it was said about me, can I sig this please?
I will add it to my collection.

On topic:
Not thinking rationally =/= not planning it out (which is what we are talking about).
Just look at serial killers or assassination attempts...they were not thinking rationally, but they sure as heck plan it out most of the time (almost all of the time in fact).

Thinking rationally has nothing to do with planning

[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]Lol tell him again. That guy is a real pompous jerk. You have no idea what people who attempt suicide are thinking. I myself at points in my life considered "opting out" but when i look back at those times i say to myself "what the heck was I thinking?". So no, i'd say in most cases, people are sincerely going through depressing times and thus make irrational decisions.

rawsavon

Since it was said about me, can I sig this please?
I will add it to my collection.

On topic:
Not thinking rationally =/= not planning it out (which is what we are talking about).
Just look at serial killers or assassination attempts...they were not thinking rationally, but they sure as heck plan it out most of the time (almost all of the time in fact).

Thinking rationally has nothing to do with planning

It would have been badass if she just got up and walked away, proclaiming "haters gonna hate"Freebird8877