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#51 MrPraline
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It's not the end of this horrible drug war, but IMO it's certainly a step in the right direction, and it greatly lifts the Obama administration in my eyes. m0zart
I agree.
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#53 ThisIsTwoFace
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Sending your troops to Afghan and other middle eastern countries is also a waste of money (happens here in the UK too, lives lost for nothing) - you will still pay for it whether you like it or not :)

Its a shame Mr.Officer, the US Government doesn't entirely agree with what you believe, damn theres probably a drone flying over your house right now

airshocker

Another strawman. Are you incapable of staying on point? Or are you just angry that I've completely destroyed anything you've had to say on the matter?

Mr. Officer? Only idiots with the most basic grasp of the written word use two salutations when responding to someone. I know you tried to be snarky but you only succeeded in making yourself look like an idiot. I don't really care what the US government thinks, to be perfectly honest. I've never been a big fan of it. If you somehow think that's going to make a difference in THIS argument, or my opinion, you're sorely mistaken.

You've said nothing important "I don't like drugs I don't do drugs blah blah" < Yeah, thats it.

Other than that you've called me an idiot (Have you seen the country you live in) and claim to have destroyed me. Mr Officer, you're going way too far.

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#54 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Good.  I have no problem prosecuting drug pushers and sellers, but incarcerating drug users is not a wise policy.  Save the jail space for the true criminals.

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#55 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"] Not for having a license to use Medical marijuana in your state, yet being hauled away by federal agents. No, they shouldn't. I don't think ingesting anything willfully should be a crime. I can do what I want to my own body, and I think that should be extended to people who ARE TERMINALLY ILL. chrisrooR

Now you're moving the goal posts.  

I think the basis of ingesting a drug, or being an addict, being a crime is insanely stupid in the first place.

uh, good for you?

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#56 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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You've said nothing important "I don't like drugs I don't do drugs blah blah" < Yeah, thats it.

Other than that you've called me an idiot (Have you seen the country you live in) and claim to have destroyed me. Mr Officer, you're going way too far.

ThisIsTwoFace

So you're incapable of staying on point and an idiot. Got it.

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#57 MrPraline
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I agree with Chris R. Legalise all drugs. Our bodies not Barry's. F*ck off. With your maybe a little bit of blow.
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#58 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

You've said nothing important "I don't like drugs I don't do drugs blah blah" < Yeah, thats it.

Other than that you've called me an idiot (Have you seen the country you live in) and claim to have destroyed me. Mr Officer, you're going way too far.

airshocker

So you're incapable of staying on point and an idiot. Got it.

Mr Officer, you're way out of line now. Idc If you're off duty never talk to me like that especially since you've never seen me in real life - and since you've never seen me in real life Mr Officer, "don't assume you know anything about me"

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#59 lostrib
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

You've said nothing important "I don't like drugs I don't do drugs blah blah" < Yeah, thats it.

Other than that you've called me an idiot (Have you seen the country you live in) and claim to have destroyed me. Mr Officer, you're going way too far.

ThisIsTwoFace

So you're incapable of staying on point and an idiot. Got it.

Mr Officer, you're way out of line now. Idc If you're off duty never talk to me like that especially since you've never seen me in real life - and since you've never seen me in real life Mr Officer, "don't assume you know anything about me"

lol, wtf?

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#60 chrisrooR
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Now you're moving the goal posts.  

lostrib

I think the basis of ingesting a drug, or being an addict, being a crime is insanely stupid in the first place.

uh, good for you?

Right. So that's exactly why I'm against incarcerating the terminally ill for trying to alleviate their physical pain through alternative drug treatment (i.e. marijuana). To me, it's essentially as bad as j-walking. To say that these people should 'be punished for their crimes' is unrealistically assuming that the degree of crime has a justifiable level of jail time. It's nonsense, and people like you are ass backwards and need to stay out of my body.
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#61 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Mr Officer, you're way out of line now. Idc If you're off duty never talk to me like that especially since you've never seen me in real life - and since you've never seen me in real life Mr Officer, "don't assume you know anything about me"

ThisIsTwoFace

You're going to make me, somehow? Are you insane? I'm calling you an idiot based on your posts. Nothing more. I don't need to see you "in real life" to make a judgment on your intelligence. All I need is a demonstration in stupidity, which you have given me in spades.

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#62 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Mr Officer, you're way out of line now. Idc If you're off duty never talk to me like that especially since you've never seen me in real life - and since you've never seen me in real life Mr Officer, "don't assume you know anything about me"

airshocker

You're going to make me, somehow? Are you insane? I'm calling you an idiot based on your posts. Nothing more. I don't need to see you "in real life" to make a judgment on your intelligence. All I need is a demonstration in stupidity, which you have given me in spades.

Lol Mr Officer, judging someone based on what they say on the Internet (even calling them an idiot while not realising that the "idiot" is toying and trolling) is out of line again. Mr Officer - like most cops I believe you're overreacting :)

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Lol Mr Officer, judging someone based on what they say on the Internet (even calling them an idiot while not realising that the "idiot" is toying and trolling) is out of line again. Mr Officer - like most cops I believe you're overreacting :)

ThisIsTwoFace

Ah, the typical "I'm not an idiot, just a troll" excuse.

Funny how it's always used once an argument has been lost and someone is trying to save face.

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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Lol Mr Officer, judging someone based on what they say on the Internet (even calling them an idiot while not realising that the "idiot" is toying and trolling) is out of line again. Mr Officer - like most cops I believe you're overreacting :)

airshocker

Ah, the typical "I'm not an idiot, just a troll" excuse.

Funny how it's always used once an argument has been lost and someone is trying to save face.

two points to Airshocker
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Lol Mr Officer, judging someone based on what they say on the Internet (even calling them an idiot while not realising that the "idiot" is toying and trolling) is out of line again. Mr Officer - like most cops I believe you're overreacting :)

airshocker

Ah, the typical "I'm not an idiot, just a troll" excuse.

Funny how it's always used once an argument has been lost and someone is trying to save face.

Mr Officer, I'm using your valuable "so don't assume you know anything about me" line and now Im an idiot? Oh dear.

Let us use that line in my playing fields - Mr Officer please answer me this - do you actually know anything about me? And Im not talking about ThisIsTwoFace, I mean the person behind it

When you admit - "I know nothing about you" then the argument may end, is that fair?

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Mr Officer, I'm using your valuable "so don't assume you know anything about me" line and now Im an idiot? Oh dear.

Let us use that line in my playing fields - Mr Officer please answer me this - do you actually know anything about me? And Im not talking about ThisIsTwoFace, I mean the person behind it

When you admit - "I know nothing about you" then the argument may end, is that fair?

ThisIsTwoFace

You've already proven to be an idiot, however. As I've already shown, I don't need to know you in real life to make that judgment about you. I've used your very own posts to showcase it.

Next you're going to try and tell me I couldn't call somebody a racist unless I knew them in real life, even if their posts stink of racism.

You assumed I wanted weed when nothing in my posts suggested that. I then showed you exactly how you were wrong. If you're trying to compare me calling you an idiot to what you tried to assume about me, you're more of an idiot than I originally thought.

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#67 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Mr Officer, I'm using your valuable "so don't assume you know anything about me" line and now Im an idiot? Oh dear.

Let us use that line in my playing fields - Mr Officer please answer me this - do you actually know anything about me? And Im not talking about ThisIsTwoFace, I mean the person behind it

When you admit - "I know nothing about you" then the argument may end, is that fair?

airshocker

You've already proven to be an idiot, however. As I've already shown, I don't need to know you in real life to make that judgment about you. I've used your very own posts to showcase it.

Next you're going to try and tell me I couldn't call somebody a racist unless I knew them in real life, even if their posts stink of racism.

You're not making me rethink my original assessment of you.

Mr Officer, please answer the question.

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Mr Officer, please answer the question.

ThisIsTwoFace

I thought I made it abundantly clear: Yes, you are an idiot. :lol:

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Mr Officer, I'm using your valuable "so don't assume you know anything about me" line and now Im an idiot? Oh dear.

Let us use that line in my playing fields - Mr Officer please answer me this - do you actually know anything about me? And Im not talking about ThisIsTwoFace, I mean the person behind it

When you admit - "I know nothing about you" then the argument may end, is that fair?

ThisIsTwoFace

You've already proven to be an idiot, however. As I've already shown, I don't need to know you in real life to make that judgment about you. I've used your very own posts to showcase it.

Next you're going to try and tell me I couldn't call somebody a racist unless I knew them in real life, even if their posts stink of racism.

You're not making me rethink my original assessment of you.

Mr Officer, please answer the question.

You're an idiot.
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

You've already proven to be an idiot, however. As I've already shown, I don't need to know you in real life to make that judgment about you. I've used your very own posts to showcase it.

Next you're going to try and tell me I couldn't call somebody a racist unless I knew them in real life, even if their posts stink of racism.

You're not making me rethink my original assessment of you.

chrisrooR

Mr Officer, please answer the question.

You're an idiot.

I am asking a basic question though, why are you people failing to answer? His opinion of me is irrelevant to the question.

If I call you an idiot, does that mean that I know something about you? Please sir, enlighten me.

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This will save states lots of money, in states like New York and California it costs like $50K-$60K per inmate per year for their imprisonment.
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I am asking a basic question though, why are you people failing to answer? His opinion of me is irrelevant to the question.

If I call you an idiot, does that mean that I know something about you? Please sir, enlighten me.

ThisIsTwoFace

Apparently your reading comprehension is also terrible.

Poor guy.

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Sheriff Arpaio will have something to say about it.
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#74 ThisIsTwoFace
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

I am asking a basic question though, why are you people failing to answer? His opinion of me is irrelevant to the question.

If I call you an idiot, does that mean that I know something about you? Please sir, enlighten me.

airshocker

Apparently your reading comprehension is also terrible.

Poor guy.

Mr Officer, do you know anything about me? (THAT MEANS LIKE HOBBIES AND STUFF NOT WHAT YOU THINK)?

If you still can't answer this.. I fear for the police force.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

I am asking a basic question though, why are you people failing to answer? His opinion of me is irrelevant to the question.

If I call you an idiot, does that mean that I know something about you? Please sir, enlighten me.

ThisIsTwoFace

Apparently your reading comprehension is also terrible.

Poor guy.

Mr Officer, do you know anything about me? (THAT MEANS LIKE HOBBIES AND STUFF NOT WHAT YOU THINK)?

If you still can't answer this.. I fear for the police force.

This thread isn't about you. Please stay out of it if that is all you're going to repeat in post after post.

Besides, your posts are giving me pink-eye.

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#76 Squeets
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I think all drugs should be legal.

At the same time I think all new vehicles should come installed with some sort of biometric scanner that looks for substances which inhibit function and if they are found, won't even start the car.

I don't care if you sit in your house and get high all day, but I don't want you driving around on the road with that shit in your system.

This includes alcohol.

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Those scum deserve prison, but if it hurts our economy then I agree with less time
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I think all drugs should be legal.

Squeets

Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?

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Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?sherman-tank1
Why does it matter? Many legal prescription drugs have harsher side effects than most illegal drugs.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?foxhound_fox
Why does it matter? Many legal prescription drugs have harsher side effects than most illegal drugs.

Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.

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Lol at the responses in here... I don't know what's worse.. The stoners who give us user a bad name, or the guys who don't like stoners but wont shut up about them :lol:

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?sherman-tank1

Why does it matter? Many legal prescription drugs have harsher side effects than most illegal drugs.

Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.

I don't believe anyone should have the right to tell someone what they can and can't put into their body. They can surely try and persuade me not to, but in the end it's my decision. I can go outside into my garage and inhale the fumes from a can of gasoline. People who do drugs are going to do drugs. If they're regulated and taxed, at least some good can come out of it (schools, roads...etc) as opposed to lining some cartel bosses pockets.
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[QUOTE="Squeets"]

I think all drugs should be legal.

sherman-tank1

Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?

Doesn't matter, my body my responsibility.
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Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.sherman-tank1
Yeah, because saving people from themselves is such a priority.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Why does it matter? Many legal prescription drugs have harsher side effects than most illegal drugs.chrisrooR

Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.

I don't believe anyone should have the right to tell someone what they can and can't put into their body. They can surely try and persuade me not to, but in the end it's my decision. I can go outside into my garage and inhale the fumes from a can of gasoline. People who do drugs are going to do drugs. If they're regulated and taxed, at least some good can come out of it (schools, roads...etc) as opposed to lining some cartel bosses pockets.

So lets make it legal for 8 year olds to snort cocaine. Or maybe a preg women to do all sorts of crap that can ruin her baby.

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

I think all drugs should be legal.

Master_Live

Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?

Doesn't matter, my body my responsibility.

But you affect other people. Driving for instance.

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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.

sherman-tank1

I don't believe anyone should have the right to tell someone what they can and can't put into their body. They can surely try and persuade me not to, but in the end it's my decision. I can go outside into my garage and inhale the fumes from a can of gasoline. People who do drugs are going to do drugs. If they're regulated and taxed, at least some good can come out of it (schools, roads...etc) as opposed to lining some cartel bosses pockets.

So lets make it legal for 8 year olds to snort cocaine. Or maybe a preg women to do all sorts of crap that can ruin her baby.

did you miss the part where he says they would be regulated?  And pregnant woman already do that

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#88 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Master_Live"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Do you understand how dangerous some drugs really are?

sherman-tank1

Doesn't matter, my body my responsibility.

But you affect other people. Driving for instance.

which is illegal.

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="Master_Live"] Doesn't matter, my body my responsibility. lostrib

But you affect other people. Driving for instance.

which would be illegal. just like drinking and driving is illegal now

Ah, but nobody said that before. All they stated was making all drugs legal.

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"] I don't believe anyone should have the right to tell someone what they can and can't put into their body. They can surely try and persuade me not to, but in the end it's my decision. I can go outside into my garage and inhale the fumes from a can of gasoline. People who do drugs are going to do drugs. If they're regulated and taxed, at least some good can come out of it (schools, roads...etc) as opposed to lining some cartel bosses pockets. lostrib

So lets make it legal for 8 year olds to snort cocaine. Or maybe a preg women to do all sorts of crap that can ruin her baby.

did you miss the part where he says they would be regulated?  And pregnant woman already do that

I thought regulated as in sale regulated. And they shouldn't be doing that. Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

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#91 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]But you affect other people. Driving for instance.

sherman-tank1

which would be illegal. just like drinking and driving is illegal now

Ah, but nobody said that before. All they stated was making all drugs legal.

making drugs legal, doesn't make driving under the influence legal as well.  That's why i edited my post. It is already illegal to drive while under the influence of drugs, even prescription meds

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]So lets make it legal for 8 year olds to snort cocaine. Or maybe a preg women to do all sorts of crap that can ruin her baby.

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did you miss the part where he says they would be regulated?  And pregnant woman already do that

I thought regulated as in sale regulated. And they shouldn't be doing that. Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

they would be regulated similar to alcohol

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.foxhound_fox
Yeah, because saving people from themselves is such a priority.

Just because you dont care about the well being of others doesnt mean other people do not.
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#94 lostrib
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Those were exactly what I was referring to. If these became open to everybody, it would be beyond awful. It already is bad now.Capitan_Kid
Yeah, because saving people from themselves is such a priority.

Just because you dont care about the well being of others doesnt mean other people do not.

uh, why should you be able to tell people how they need to take care of themselves?

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So lets make it legal for 8 year olds to snort cocaine. Or maybe a preg women to do all sorts of crap that can ruin her baby.sherman-tank1
Because eight year-olds and pregnant women commonly drink alcohol because it's legal to do so. You're an idiot. A giant idiot.
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Just because you dont care about the well being of others doesnt mean other people do not. Capitan_Kid
Other people shouldn't care about my well-being. It's my responsibility so long as I remain conscious and sane.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

did you miss the part where he says they would be regulated?  And pregnant woman already do that

lostrib

I thought regulated as in sale regulated. And they shouldn't be doing that. Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

they would be regulated similar to alcohol

People don't follow regulators with alcohol what makes you think they will with things even worse? 

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Just because you dont care about the well being of others doesnt mean other people do not. foxhound_fox
Other people shouldn't care about my well-being. It's my responsibility so long as I remain conscious and sane.

While that is true, you can't do everything by yourself. Someday you need somebody's help. Like a doctor.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Just because you dont care about the well being of others doesnt mean other people do not. foxhound_fox
Other people shouldn't care about my well-being. It's my responsibility so long as I remain conscious and sane.

So you don't want your family and loved ones to care about your well-being...?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]I thought regulated as in sale regulated. And they shouldn't be doing that. Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

sherman-tank1

they would be regulated similar to alcohol

People don't follow regulators with alcohol what makes you think they will with things even worse? 

So we should ban drugs because people might break the law to obtain drugs? Â