OP is an idiot
Good Christ, you're a f*cking moron.
worlock77
Oh someone beat me to it, damn
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Still defending Barack Hussein I see?[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
Lol Fox Nation.
theone86
People might actually take F*x news and by extension all the f*x who watch it seriously if they would drop all rhetoric about Barrack Hussein and guillotines. I mean, there would still be the problem of them twisting every peice of news to suit their agenda which is out of touch with reality 99.99% of the time, but at least you wouldn't be the raving lunatics you are now.
Maybe you should go outside and get some fresh air. It's not healthy to be angry like you are.Seriously, I'm not even being biased by party here. Martin Van Buren was a democrat.
Am I really the only one who knows about this guy?
Ad Hominem. Logical fallacy.[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="worlock77"]
Lol Fox Nation.
theone86
Technically he never made a claim so it's not ad hominem, ad hominem would be saying a claim cannot be true because Fox News made it.
Being a f*cking moron, life fallacy.
Fox Nation made the claims in the OP's post. The first response was "Lol Fox Nation". That's an ad hominem. The OP didn't make the claim. Fox Nation did."Being a f*cking moron, life fallacy." ... I agree with you. Which is why you should wise up.
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
Seriously, did everyone magically forget about Martin Van Buren?
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Is that Always Sunny in Philly?
You just went full Zenny.[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]
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ALovelyHorse
Is that Always Sunny in Philly?
You just went full Zenny.Dammit, time to commit ritual sudoku.
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
Seriously, did everyone magically forget about Martin Van Buren?
THE_DRUGGIE
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Is that Always Sunny in Philly?
seinfeld[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]
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comp_atkins
Is that Always Sunny in Philly?
seinfeldNever heard of it.
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]
[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]
Seriously, did everyone magically forget about Martin Van Buren?
THE_DRUGGIE
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Is that Always Sunny in Philly?
n*gga u serious?
KK has gone full r3tard, abandon your account and leave I didn't make the connection between Obama and Saddam.....until now.[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
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BossPerson
No, Obama has done some stupid things, as Bush did before him... though Jimmeh Carter takes the crown for worst economic president ever. Thats right... Jimmeh Carter.
I am actually happy that some of his policies have been kept in check... mainly the immigration bill and cap and change. My problem with the immigration bill is that we would be immediately adding more impovershed into this country that can't even handle what we already have, and its unfair to any tax payer to add that extra burden. Throwing money at the problem hasn't solved anything and unfortunately many of the impovershed communities would rather kill eachother than solve their problem. They would rather get a free ride than stand up and do something about their situation. Another Obama failed policy... just give them things for free and it makes it better. False. It actually makes it worse. You give something to someone for nothing and they will give you nothing in return.
Deficit is being reduced. Programs are being cut. Wars are ending.
Um....
What now lolFoxNews?
He's mediocre, but he gets far too much crap.
And yet Obama stepped into the role of president while the economy was in freefall, and has turned it around over the course of the last four years. Are people still in a sh!tty situation? Absolutely, but the coountry as a whole is better off now than in January 2009 when Obama first became president.
[spoiler] truth sucks sometimes [/spoiler]
Jan 2009 -
DJIA @ 6500
250k+ active troops overseas in two full-scale wars
losing 750k jobs per month
8.4 million children without health insurance
Now -
DJIA @ 15000
less than 10K active troops overseas.
unemployment stabilized.
7.6 million children without health insurance
Isn't America supposed to be a nation of self-reliance?
Than why is everybody bitching at the president for not fixing the economy?
Go out an fix yourselves, ya gawdam welfurr queens.
Either he went full R word or he has been trolling us all this time and isn't really your average inbred conservative, but someone who is systematically making fun of republican stereotypes.
Either way, this Barack Hussein thing is the dumbest shit I've read on the Internet. That's either sad or pretty damn awesome, depending on whether or not he's trolling.
Either he went full R word or he has been trolling us all this time and isn't really your average inbred conservative, but someone who is systematically making fun of republican stereotypes.
Either way, this Barack Hussein thing is the dumbest shit I've read on the Internet. That's either sad or pretty damn awesome, depending on whether or not he's trolling.
LordQuorthon
He went full republican?
:P
The great recession started before he became president.
I'm pretty sure you're just trolling, because there's no way that you're so stupid that you think the president has that much influence over the economy.
I really don't get it. I mean, you can't look at the Bush presidency which ended with a crashed and still spiraling economy and look at this president's tenure to date and legitimately tell me that you think the previous administration was better economically. It's takes a lot of stretching to perform those mental acrobatics.And yet Obama stepped into the role of president while the economy was in freefall, and has turned it around over the course of the last four years. Are people still in a sh!tty situation? Absolutely, but the coountry as a whole is better off now than in January 2009 when Obama first became president.
[spoiler] truth sucks sometimes [/spoiler]
Serraph105
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Not to mention how ridiculously lopsided this article is. There are things you can criticize the President for, but this is just another example of blatant Obama-bashing to drum up people who aren't paying attention into a frenzy.
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
Does France still make guillotines?
1)** Barack Obama is the worst jobs president since the Great Depression.
2)** Poverty is at its highest rate since 1960s.
3)** America is experiencing its worst economic recovery ever.
4)** There are more Americans on food stamps than entire population of Spain.
5)** A record number of Americans are seeking jobs.
6)** Obamas trillion dollar stimulus failed.
7)** Under Obamas leadership we had four straight years of trillion dollar deficits.
8)** 8.8 million Americans are on disability.In an article for Investors Business Daily, Anderson writes: Prior to Obama, the second term of President Bush featured the weakest gains in the gross domestic product in some time, with average annual (inflation-adjusted) GDP growth of just 1.9 percent but average annual real GDP growth during Obamas entire first term was less than half as much at a pitiful 0.8 percent.
That performance will establish Obama firmly as the worst president ever on the economy.
Obamas GDP growth is less than half as much as the worst president in the past 60 years.
Let that process slowly. That means that if President Obama could go back in time and find a way to double his GDP performance, hed still hold the record for the worst economic president in the past 60 years.
BMD004
1) President Obama came in at a time when the economy was hemmoraging jobs and reversed that trend through targeted spending programs that rebuild the country at the same time they put people to work. To blame him for this is fallacious in the first place as he inherited this mess, and then on top of that if a President who was against federal spending had come into office we'd have millions more Americans unemployed right now. Not to mention that every time he actually does something to try and help the economy he's accused of overreaching, so which one is it? Is he a horrible dictator who can't help but stick government fingers where they don't belong, or is he completely ineffective in his ability to single-handedly solve the economic crisis and put employment rates back to where they were under Clinton? Are you mad at him for doing too much or too little? Make up your minds.
2) Right, and this has everything to do with the President and nothing to do with the wealth disparity in America. It's not the people who are making billions of dollars each year and shipping jobs overseas we should be mad at, it's the President, despite the fact that he doesn't have the power to directly affect poverty rates. Here again, we run into the issue of him being blamed for doing too much and too little at the same time.
3) Here again we have the dual problems of blaming President Obama for things he can't control and blaming him for not doing enough while criticizing his proposals as overreaches. We're comparing President Obama's recovery to Presidents Carter and Roosevelt's? First off, they had Congresses that actually passed legislation, President Obama does not. Second, every time he invests money as both of those Presidents did in much greater numbers than he did he is criticized for overreaching. Again, either he's doing too much or too little, not both at the same time. Also, if conservatives are soo focused on the free market then why are they asking President Obama where the jobs are? Shouldn't they be asking their vaunted titans of industry?
4) Again, why is this the President's problem? Why aren't we asking why more companies aren't paying a living wage, why they aren't hiring more employees, or why they're so opposed to raising the minimum wage? Raise wages, fewer people on food stamps. Simple problem, simple solution.
5) When we're talking records we have to take population growth into account. Also, again, why are we blaming the President for this and not companies who aren't hiring?
6) Failed? It added millions of jobs to the economy, it kept people from unemployment. This is exactly the kind of hypocrisy that discredits articles like this, they harp and harp on President Obama for not doing anything and when they come to a point where he actually did do something they dismiss it as a failure.
7) We've had deficits in the trillions for years now, it's not limited to President Obama. President Obama has also reduced the deficit, and unlike our last REPUBLICAN president he is actually putting everything on the books. That's a large part of why the deficit ballooned like it did, was because whereas Bush was keeping wartime spending off the books Obama was putting on the books where it belongs.
8) You're criticizing the President for the number of Americans who are on disability? Do I even have to go into how ridiculously stupid that is?
Can I get you some knee pads? You're so edgy.The deficits under Obama have been the largest deficits of any government/organization in human history. The deficit is going to decrease now, because at this point it is almost impossible for it not to decrease. Also, Obama opposed the sequester cuts which are hardly anything. Government spending is actually still increasing, and the only reason the deficit is shrinking (for now) is because tax revenues are increasing even more than government spending is.Deficit is being reduced. Programs are being cut. Wars are ending.
Um....
What now lolFoxNews?
He's mediocre, but he gets far too much crap.
jimkabrhel
Not surprising in the slightest. How can you have 8 years of someone who's never worked a day of his life in the private sector and expect a good economy? It's impossible.
[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]The deficits under Obama have been the largest deficits of any government/organization in human history. The deficit is going to decrease now, because at this point it is almost impossible for it not to decrease. Also, Obama opposed the sequester cuts which are hardly anything. Government spending is actually still increasing, and the only reason the deficit is shrinking (for now) is because tax revenues are increasing even more than government spending is. Yes, that lousy economic growth is erasing our deficits. It's not fair because....I'm sorry, what was your argument again?Deficit is being reduced. Programs are being cut. Wars are ending.
Um....
What now lolFoxNews?
He's mediocre, but he gets far too much crap.
Laihendi
[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]The deficits under Obama have been the largest deficits of any government/organization in human history. The deficit is going to decrease now, because at this point it is almost impossible for it not to decrease. Also, Obama opposed the sequester cuts which are hardly anything. Government spending is actually still increasing, and the only reason the deficit is shrinking (for now) is because tax revenues are increasing even more than government spending is. Why do people feel the need to lie to themselves rather than just saying "yeah he is cutting the deficit but he's still mediocre"? The sequester cuts were a really poor way to do things, most people would be opposed to them if they were concerned about the nations well being rather than ideology. Government spending has decreased actually.Deficit is being reduced. Programs are being cut. Wars are ending.
Um....
What now lolFoxNews?
He's mediocre, but he gets far too much crap.
Laihendi
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]I really don't get it. I mean, you can't look at the Bush presidency which ended with a crashed and still spiraling economy and look at this president's tenure to date and legitimately tell me that you think the previous administration was better economically. It's takes a lot of stretching to perform those mental acrobatics. I honestly think that when Obama first took office the crash was so early on that people didn't take a lot of notice/get hurt by it until after a few months of Obama. Still takes mental acrobatics to turn that into Obama's fault, but people did it.And yet Obama stepped into the role of president while the economy was in freefall, and has turned it around over the course of the last four years. Are people still in a sh!tty situation? Absolutely, but the coountry as a whole is better off now than in January 2009 when Obama first became president.
[spoiler] truth sucks sometimes [/spoiler]
mattbbpl
In fact some people (like myself) even got helped a bit by the crash due to falling gas prices before they got hurt by it.
[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]The deficits under Obama have been the largest deficits of any government/organization in human history. The deficit is going to decrease now, because at this point it is almost impossible for it not to decrease. Also, Obama opposed the sequester cuts which are hardly anything. Government spending is actually still increasing, and the only reason the deficit is shrinking (for now) is because tax revenues are increasing even more than government spending is.Most of the deficit in the last few years has been because of the economic slowdown.Deficit is being reduced. Programs are being cut. Wars are ending.
Um....
What now lolFoxNews?
He's mediocre, but he gets far too much crap.
Laihendi
Less people with good jobs, less investment, less infrastructure, all equals less taxes and more in government programs to help the poor and that creates more deficit. Obama has actually reduced government expansion more than any other president in the last 40 years.
damn you're stupid lai
The deficits under Obama have been the largest deficits of any government/organization in human history. The deficit is going to decrease now, because at this point it is almost impossible for it not to decrease. Also, Obama opposed the sequester cuts which are hardly anything. Government spending is actually still increasing, and the only reason the deficit is shrinking (for now) is because tax revenues are increasing even more than government spending is.Most of the deficit in the last few years has been because of the economic slowdown.[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]
Deficit is being reduced. Programs are being cut. Wars are ending.
Um....
What now lolFoxNews?
He's mediocre, but he gets far too much crap.
MakeMeaSammitch
Less people with good jobs, less investment, less infrastructure, all equals less taxes and more in government programs to help the poor and that creates more deficit. Obama has actually reduced government expansion more than any other president in the last 40 years.
damn you're stupid lai
Well....he DID think a president can retroactively veto a bill that was signed into law by his predecessor. So his level of intelligence isn't surprising.[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]Most of the deficit in the last few years has been because of the economic slowdown.[QUOTE="Laihendi"] The deficits under Obama have been the largest deficits of any government/organization in human history. The deficit is going to decrease now, because at this point it is almost impossible for it not to decrease. Also, Obama opposed the sequester cuts which are hardly anything. Government spending is actually still increasing, and the only reason the deficit is shrinking (for now) is because tax revenues are increasing even more than government spending is.DroidPhysX
Less people with good jobs, less investment, less infrastructure, all equals less taxes and more in government programs to help the poor and that creates more deficit. Obama has actually reduced government expansion more than any other president in the last 40 years.
damn you're stupid lai
Well....he DID think a president can retroactively veto a bill that was signed into law by his predecessor. So his level of intelligence isn't surprising. I'd say him thinking Tom Robinson raped Mayella in To Kill a Mockingbird is more indicative.KK did we make fun of you for riding kraychik's d*ck so much that you just gave up and went full troll?
KK did we make fun of you for riding kraychik's d*ck so much that you just gave up and went full troll?
MakeMeaSammitch
He's back to full on troll. He was terrible, then got a tiny bit better, and is back to troll.
He's back to full on troll. He was terrible, then got a tiny bit better, and is back to troll.
Guybrush_3
So, in real life he's a trotskyist or something?
What, is Obama literally crippling people now?
** 8.8 million Americans are on disability.kingkong0124
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]What, is Obama literally crippling people now? The reason why he has done literally nothing during his presidency (other than ruin everything ever) is because he's been too busy breaking into orphanages and snapping their fragile little oatmeal filled bones. Now he's collecting data so that he knows when parents are out so he can get the more fortunate kids as well. Also he eats them.
** 8.8 million Americans are on disability.PannicAtack
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