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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="BMD004"]Don't care. People who dislike me here are just pissed off liberals who get butt-hurt when people (like me) disagree with them. So when some rumor makes its way around, they lap it up like dogs and keep repeating it because they don't like what I say. For "tolerant liberals", some sure do hate people with different opinions or aren't beta males like themselves. The hypocrisy amuses me. BMD004I've never seen a liberal claim to be tolerant of idiocy. If they were they'd just let groups like the Republicans win. You prove my point. You can disagree without name-calling like a child. I didn't think you would be able to understand anything else. If one day you ever do come up with an argument that actually has a degree of thought behind it I'd love to hear it though. You say I can disagree but what am I disagreeing with? It really just looks like you're mad about people not liking you on the internet so you're calling them things like "beta".
[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="BMD004"] beta males . BMD004ahahaha you actually used that unironically. lay off the testosterone bro.I call it like I see it. Then surely you understand why people think you're not very bright. They're just calling it like they see it.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="BMD004"]You prove my point. You can disagree without name-calling like a child.BMD004I didn't think you would be able to understand anything else. If one day you ever do come up with an argument that actually has a degree of thought behind it I'd love to hear it though.Maybe you aren't mature enough to have civil debates. You are fine when you have yes men around you parroting your own views. But when somebody opposes that view, you and others get very defensive and call people idiots, dumb, etc. That's insecurity. I don't call people dumb when I disagree. I will tell them that I think they are wrong, but I don't call them names because we differ in our opinions. I am confident in my opinions, so I don't feel the need to put others down who disagree. You say you are confident in your opinion and because of that you don't need to insult others but here you are insulting others without having any actual argument. People are calling you an idiot because you demand to be treated like one. If you want people to not just write you off as a moron then why don't you say something intelligent?
It is because you are liberals and don't like my non-liberal opinions.BMD004
Your opinions, although awful, aren't the worst. Its your love for GSP. Mwuhahahaha
This is only in response to people like you who have been calling names for a long time.BMD004This is why we're insulting you actually. Good job figuring it out. If you want proof of this go look at your response to Ones post. Rather than arguing even a single point you call him an ass kisser.
[QUOTE="BMD004"]This is only in response to people like you who have been calling names for a long time.Ace6301This is why we're insulting you actually. Good job figuring it out. If you want proof of this go look at your response to Ones post. Rather than arguing even a single point you call him an ass kisser. Hold up. He is the one who started dishing out insults. You better go back and read.
And I did say "Can I get you some knee pads?". It was a joke.
And after he called me a "f*cking moron", you are gonna get pissy that I joked about getting him some knee pads? Maaaan get outta here with that.
Please everyone just report this guy and stop this fighting. Isn't this supposed to be a place for civil discussion? FallenAdversaryWhose alt are you, f*cking troll?
Please everyone just report this guy and stop this fighting. Isn't this supposed to be a place for civil discussion? FallenAdversaryIt's supposed to be. And that is what we are discussing.
If you oppose a liberal view, you get called "f*cking moron", "stupid", "idiot", etc.
It's gotta stop.
It's supposed to be. And that is what we are discussing.[QUOTE="FallenAdversary"]Please everyone just report this guy and stop this fighting. Isn't this supposed to be a place for civil discussion? BMD004
If you oppose a liberal view, you get called "f*cking moron", "stupid", "idiot", etc.
It's gotta stop.
You're confusing opposing liberal view with holding american libertarian ideologies.
We can definitely attribute many economic woes to one institution: the government. Individuals shoulder their share of blame as well, particularly when they champion destructive redistributive and debt-financed "solutions", i.e. the so-called "Affordable Care and Patient Protection Act". Obama is certainly not acting alone, but he has dedicated his efforts towards advancing such destructive policies.It's funny how people think that things as large and uncontrollable as economic forces can be attributed to any one person, or even one institution. The same for people who think that economics can be compactly explained or modelled in any way (lol, economists).
jetpower3
Not sure if troll or overly confident anti-intellectual.[QUOTE="Barbariser"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]
It's funny how people think that things as large and uncontrollable as economic forces can be attributed to any one person, or even one institution. The same for people who think that economics can be compactly explained or modelled in any way (lol, economists).
jetpower3
Just someone who happens to believe that economics is not something to be taken all that seriously as a science. Models and theories are fine and all, but they are prone to breaking down in the face of changing variables and factors the modeller is probably not aware of. Which is why things as complex as economies and financial systems often surprise since, unlike physics or chemistry, their rules and what can be deduced from them via observation are very fluid.
Excuse me sir, economics is entirely a science. Just because economics deals with human behaviour (the most complex thing on the planet) doesn't make it unscientific. Studies are conducted, conclusions are drawn, theories are reinforced over time as more evidence is gathered, etc. The scientific method applies when examining the consequences of various methods of the allocation of resources, which is really what economics is all about.Yu gonna need ubamacair aftur i'm dun fukin ur gurlfrendbrucewayne69Where are you gonna bring my GF back to, your Mum's house?
This is why we're insulting you actually. Good job figuring it out. If you want proof of this go look at your response to Ones post. Rather than arguing even a single point you call him an ass kisser. Hold up. He is the one who started dishing out insults. You better go back and read.[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="BMD004"]This is only in response to people like you who have been calling names for a long time.BMD004
And I did say "Can I get you some knee pads?". It was a joke.
And after he called me a "f*cking moron", you are gonna get pissy that I joked about getting him some knee pads? Maaaan get outta here with that.
So you complain about people not putting forward arguments but when they do you respond with bad jokes and insults. Are you trying to validate what I'm saying about you at this point?[QUOTE="BMD004"]Hold up. He is the one who started dishing out insults. You better go back and read.[QUOTE="Ace6301"] This is why we're insulting you actually. Good job figuring it out. If you want proof of this go look at your response to Ones post. Rather than arguing even a single point you call him an ass kisser. Ace6301
And I did say "Can I get you some knee pads?". It was a joke.
And after he called me a "f*cking moron", you are gonna get pissy that I joked about getting him some knee pads? Maaaan get outta here with that.
So you complain about people not putting forward arguments but when they do you respond with bad jokes and insults. Are you trying to validate what I'm saying about you at this point?That went out the window when he started insulting people.[QUOTE="dave123321"]kk isn't trying anymorewis3boi
he ever tried?
he used to try really hard, especially when his idol was around.Then he just slowly declined into trolling.
Its like we are calculating Obama's GPA, but we are averaging it with Bush's GPA.
So
2000-2008 Ds and Fs... Now being averaged with Obama's grades. Damn.
All while comparing it to FDR averaged with Truman or something...
Squeets
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
[QUOTE="Squeets"]
Its like we are calculating Obama's GPA, but we are averaging it with Bush's GPA.
So
2000-2008 Ds and Fs... Now being averaged with Obama's grades. Damn.
All while comparing it to FDR averaged with Truman or something...
Serraph105
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.So you complain about people not putting forward arguments but when they do you respond with bad jokes and insults. Are you trying to validate what I'm saying about you at this point?That went out the window when he started insulting people. Don't hold others to standards you yourself can't uphold. As it stands you're just a hypocrite.[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="BMD004"]Hold up. He is the one who started dishing out insults. You better go back and read.
And I did say "Can I get you some knee pads?". It was a joke.
And after he called me a "f*cking moron", you are gonna get pissy that I joked about getting him some knee pads? Maaaan get outta here with that.
BMD004
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
[QUOTE="Squeets"]
Its like we are calculating Obama's GPA, but we are averaging it with Bush's GPA.
So
2000-2008 Ds and Fs... Now being averaged with Obama's grades. Damn.
All while comparing it to FDR averaged with Truman or something...
ZionismFTW
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.Flat earther? What did I say in my previous statement, or have ever said for that matter, would give you that impression of me?
Alternative energy btw is pretty self-explanatory. It's a source of energy that is alternative to the current main sources of energy such as oil and coal. In this case alternative energy also refers energy that releases less carbon into the air when used.
What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.[QUOTE="ZionismFTW"]
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
Serraph105
Flat earther? What did I say in my previous statement, or have ever said for that matter, would give you that impression of me?
because he's trollin
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
[QUOTE="Squeets"]
Its like we are calculating Obama's GPA, but we are averaging it with Bush's GPA.
So
2000-2008 Ds and Fs... Now being averaged with Obama's grades. Damn.
All while comparing it to FDR averaged with Truman or something...
ZionismFTW
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.The motorsport world has done amazing things with making materials both lighter and safer. A car doesn't have to be built like a tank in order to be safe.
Not sure if troll or overly confident anti-intellectual.[QUOTE="Barbariser"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]
It's funny how people think that things as large and uncontrollable as economic forces can be attributed to any one person, or even one institution. The same for people who think that economics can be compactly explained or modelled in any way (lol, economists).
jetpower3
Just someone who happens to believe that economics is not something to be taken all that seriously as a science. Models and theories are fine and all, but they are prone to breaking down in the face of changing variables and factors the modeller is probably not aware of. Which is why things as complex as economies and financial systems often surprise since, unlike physics or chemistry, their rules and what can be deduced from them via observation are very fluid.
Not to echo or support that Zionist guy who seems to be a rapid libertarian trying to seem more intelligent and awesome than everyone else, but the fact that economics is less precise and more divisive a science than hard sciences doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the time, economics works. We have perfectly functional theories for why communist nations are poor and capitalist ones are rich, why the U.S. recovered from 2008 and Europe is going through multiple dip recessions, what an optimal tax policy is, .etc. Also, economics is hardly the only field that gets "data shocks", revisions and refinements based on new evidence happens in all sciences. Look at chemistry and how many times they had to update their atomic models, I've yet to see economic theories being disproven and recreated as much as the model of the atom. Point is, economics only seems more divisive and uncertain because there are a lot of schools of thought and economics is highly tied in to politics, allowing heretodox economics schools to easily gain traction like what Zionist is spouting.What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.[QUOTE="ZionismFTW"]
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
Serraph105
Flat earther? What did I say in my previous statement, or have ever said for that matter, would give you that impression of me?
Alternative energy btw is pretty self-explanatory. It's a source of energy that is alternative to the current main sources of energy such as oil and coal. In this case alternative energy also refers energy that releases less carbon into the air when used.
Exactly my point. You actually believe in the nonsense of AGW and think that fossil fuel consumption for energy is magically warming the earth, a la Al Gore's nonsense film. You're an anti-science leftist flat-earther. That much was obvious from your initial post.What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.[QUOTE="ZionismFTW"]
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]
Kinda yeah, Obama is getting anywhere from a high D to a very low B on most things he does, but compared to the last administration it's damn nice bit of fresh air.
If there is one thing I give Obama major props on though is being environmentally conscious. Between funding alternative energy, pushing for more fuel efficient vehicles, etc puts him at or near the top of environmentally friendly presidents we have ever had.
worlock77
The motorsport world has done amazing things with making materials both lighter and safer. A car doesn't have to be built like a tank in order to be safe.
we should make all cars out of nerf I say![QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ZionismFTW"] What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.
ZionismFTW
Flat earther? What did I say in my previous statement, or have ever said for that matter, would give you that impression of me?
Alternative energy btw is pretty self-explanatory. It's a source of energy that is alternative to the current main sources of energy such as oil and coal. In this case alternative energy also refers energy that releases less carbon into the air when used.
Exactly my point. You actually believe in the nonsense of AGW and think that fossil fuel consumption for energy is magically warming the earth, a la Al Gore's nonsense film. You're an anti-science leftist flat-earther. That much was obvious from your initial post.
[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ZionismFTW"] What is exactly is "alternative energy"? I suppose you're another flat-earther who believes in the fairy tale of AGW, as well? I suppose mandating that vehicles be manufactured with plastics and fibre glass instead of heavier materials to increase fuel efficiency is great, as long as you're willing to accept massive increases in the volume of injuries and fatalities on the road as a result of the less durable materials.
ZionismFTW
Flat earther? What did I say in my previous statement, or have ever said for that matter, would give you that impression of me?
Alternative energy btw is pretty self-explanatory. It's a source of energy that is alternative to the current main sources of energy such as oil and coal. In this case alternative energy also refers energy that releases less carbon into the air when used.
Exactly my point. You actually believe in the nonsense of AGW and think that fossil fuel consumption for energy is magically warming the earth, a la Al Gore's nonsense film. You're an anti-science leftist flat-earther. That much was obvious from your initial post.Oh! So you're actually mentally handicapped? Why didn't you just say so?
[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="Barbariser"] Not sure if troll or overly confident anti-intellectual. Barbariser
Just someone who happens to believe that economics is not something to be taken all that seriously as a science. Models and theories are fine and all, but they are prone to breaking down in the face of changing variables and factors the modeller is probably not aware of. Which is why things as complex as economies and financial systems often surprise since, unlike physics or chemistry, their rules and what can be deduced from them via observation are very fluid.
Not to echo or support that Zionist guy who seems to be a rapid libertarian trying to seem more intelligent and awesome than everyone else, but the fact that economics is less precise and more divisive a science than hard sciences doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the time, economics works. We have perfectly functional theories for why communist nations are poor and capitalist ones are rich, why the U.S. recovered from 2008 and Europe is going through multiple dip recessions, what an optimal tax policy is, .etc. Also, economics is hardly the only field that gets "data shocks", revisions and refinements based on new evidence happens in all sciences. Look at chemistry and how many times they had to update their atomic models, I've yet to see economic theories being disproven and recreated as much as the model of the atom. Point is, economics only seems more divisive and uncertain because there are a lot of schools of thought and economics is highly tied in to politics, allowing heretodox economics schools to easily gain traction like what Zionist is spouting. First of all, I am not a rabid libertarian. I am a conservative. You're right in mentioning that the disagreements within the field of economic science is largely due to the politicisation of the field. Legitimate economics are unpalatable to politicians who wish to promise the world to their constituents (i.e. Obama). The promises and policies of the left are irreconcilable with what we know about economics;, namely, that centralised planning via the government cannot produce a higher quality product more efficiently than the free market. The only way socialist demagogues like Obama can promise legislation that will magically produce more health care goods and services for less money and therefore benefit more Americans is by ignoring/rejecting legitimate economic theory. Political allies within the field (i.e. Paul Krugman, Austan Goolsbee, and fake economists like Robert Reich and Elizabeth Edwards) then advance the very same nonsense while exploiting their credentials.Exactly my point. You actually believe in the nonsense of AGW and think that fossil fuel consumption for energy is magically warming the earth, a la Al Gore's nonsense film. You're an anti-science leftist flat-earther. That much was obvious from your initial post.[QUOTE="ZionismFTW"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]
Flat earther? What did I say in my previous statement, or have ever said for that matter, would give you that impression of me?
Alternative energy btw is pretty self-explanatory. It's a source of energy that is alternative to the current main sources of energy such as oil and coal. In this case alternative energy also refers energy that releases less carbon into the air when used.
Serraph105
Oh! So you're actually mentally handicapped? Why didn't you just say so?
or a kraychick shrill
[QUOTE="dave123321"]kk isn't trying anymorewis3boi
he ever tried?
He attempted to appear to be a competent human being with bursts of rage. Now he has given that upOne day people will start to realize that presidents are not the true leaders, the only thing that changes with each president is the illusion, a new president is elected by spreading their motos and their promises and the ever repeated phrase hope for change that echos in peoples minds, will always emphasize on its true meaning that hope can be everlasting. Change can only happen if you stop hoping for it, and actually do something about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmdovYztH8
Do you think this kind of BS isn't pulled off every time a president is elected?
Who do you think is really to blame.
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