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For everyone who said Batman, I suggest checking the "Use Your Delusion" articles at IGN's comic site; it consists of readers specifying how easily Batman would defeat foes like Galactus, the sun and Chuck Norris :)xaosI can list a good number of characters who can defeat Batman. Even I know he can't beat everyone... but Ironman is not on that list.
[QUOTE="aka-chief007"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]so Batman defeated Superman when he was controlled by poison ivy...that's why Batman used krptonite ring to defeat him...punches are not effective when it comes to Superman..only matters is krptonite...well Batman was doing his duty...tell me more if you have some time.. Not necessarily... the kryptonite ring is there to aid Batman -- but it will take more than a measly shard of kryptonite to take him down... but Superman knows Batman will know how to best utilize it. And of course Batman was just doing his duty... he doesn't go around taking his allies down for no reason.You're right... they are great friends. So great of friends that Superman knows the awesomeness that is Batman that he is the only one he trusted with the green kryptonite ring to take him down if needed.
My two favorite times the Bats took Supes down are of course in TDK (the Dark Knight Returns) and the awesome eyecandy that is the Hush storyline (Supes was controlled by Poison Ivy and Batman had the kryptonite ring -- just to make his punches effective). But there are PLENTY more if you do your research.
I can only recall Batman losing to Superman once... that is in Red Son (my favorite version of Superman -- EVER) and even then he had a hard time.
Sajedene
Superman and Batman...Best team in this world.....it's good to hear that Batman defeated Superman b'coz it will be funny to make such a episodeif Superman defeated Batman b'coz Batman is human and Superman has advantage when it comes to powers....thnxxx friend for telling me such things...
anyone can defeat anybody if he/she uses his/her mind....like Batman,Superman and don't forget Spiderman...Mind,Will and a good Heart's combination is deadliest....:D
Firstly, I think it's valid to bring up Ultimate Iron Man since the TC didnt specify which one. And I think you misunderstand. I think that Batman would win, im just saying Ultimate Iron Man's intellect is above that of Bruce Wayne. As for his intelligence countering Lex, I dunno. Batman has a lot of ingenuity and knows how to plan for combat. He knows how to have the right cards for the right time. He knows the art of war and how to act upon it. But when it comes to raw knowledge in the realm of science or mathematics characters like Lex are above him in that regard. And as for your comments on Lex, atleast he made it to the white house. Batman is either too short sighted or Lazy to just deal with the criminal element with superior fire power. Seriously, If Batman used his brain, characters like Joker wouldnt even be a threat to him, but he insists on crusading in his vulnerable costume rather than pulling an Iron Man and dealing with all villains with ease (I know he has different suits for different occassions). But I guess that would make him OP. I still like Batman, but there are some things that puzzle me about him. The fact that he can defeat Superman yet has trouble with Joker? Its like he only brings enough firepower to the battle to be even rather than to win.Yes I have... and I ALWAYS find it amusing that that is what fans of Ironman bust out with when it comes to any fight because outside of the Ultimate universe... Ironman sucks (even the Hulk can beat him up -- lol ). Funny thing is, with all the intelligence and skills, even according to the Marvel website itself, Ultimate Ironman's fighting ability is **** I'm sure if DC had an ULTIMATE universe Batman would be unstoppable... maybe why there is no need to do that.
Batman -- intelligence wise - is already well documented (look it up). If you read the comics books, he is compared to that of Lex Luthor, Ra's Al Ghul credits him for it,.Just because Lex CHOOSES to make all these crazy things does not mean Batman is incapable -- he just chooses not to. His peers in JLA fear him and all the information he has on them and what he is capable of -- but enjoy the fact that he is on their side. (granted some of them had to lobotomize him -- but that again just proves how awesome he is). He can be outsmarted from time to time... heck even Reed Richards gets outsmarted... and no matter how intelligent Lex is, the farthest he can go is the White House -- still no world domination.
Sajedene
[QUOTE="aka-chief007"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]Batman... he's considered one of the if not the smartest man, greatest detective, and his only problem is he has trust issues. He's beaten practically every big name out there including Superman. The whole Justice League fears him. He has hooked up with the hottest women (Wonderwoman included). I can go on and on. sammyjenkis898hey Batman is friend of Superman...and more than any...Batman knows the real meaning of Superman...Superman has also supermind..Batman is really cool....Superman can't be defeated...Both are great...don't compare Batman and Superman bro... Batman has defeated Superman..
A 10 year old will beat Superman with Crypotonite. Batman beating Superman with Cypotonite proves nothing.
these are probaly my two fave comic book heroes. i think u would have to look at the situation. if ironman and batman were just thrown in a room ironman would kill batman just like superman could. but with prep time batman would win. i would say anything less than a day ironman would win anything more batman would win. i do admit that batman is a genuis when it comes to inventing things but the place where he has the advantage over stark is when it comes to being a tacticl genuis much in the same way captain america is.
on a side note i hate when converations like this come up and every1 writes about how reed richards could beat any1 with prep time, and the only reason for this is because marvel writers use him as a deux ex machina.
Batman. He'd find a way to get Stark out of his suit and then he'd beat the **** out of him. omfg_its_dallyi agree with dally. :o
Batman has defeated Superman..[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="aka-chief007"] hey Batman is friend of Superman...and more than any...Batman knows the real meaning of Superman...Superman has also supermind..Batman is really cool....Superman can't be defeated...Both are great...don't compare Batman and Superman bro...Silvereign
A 10 year old will beat Superman with Crypotonite. Batman beating Superman with Cypotonite proves nothing.
yea you are right....kryptonite is deadly to Superman......but don't compare these 2 friends....all know Superman is Superman...if they don't like Superman but they had to agree that he is the reall stuff out there....look...if Batman and Ironman fights then at 1st Ironman will win...then Batman will find some way to destroy his suit..2nd time Batman will win..but what about 3rd time...Tony Stark is also a weapon genius..he will make his suit advanced to face such an attack made by Batman and Ironman will win....now Batman will make another way to destroy his suit and fight will go on and on....Fight will not finish...you all had to agree if you keep your mind cool and understand what i want to say...they both are rich and weapon geniuses..why they want to be lose in fight with someone especailly if they both are human ..Batman vs Ironman=Draw........8)
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