@LJS9502_basic said:
@FrozenLiquid said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
I'm surprised I need to say this but bad and good are subjective.
No, they're not. I'm surprised, 200 years after Modernism tried that rubbish relativistic nonsense and completely failed, we still need to say this.
Of course they are. He's stating an opinion. Nothing more nothing less. And for the record I've never found a bad movie to be entertaining. So I disagree with his initial statement though he's welcome to his opinion.
There is a MAJOR difference between stating a subjective opinion and criticism of aspects of an entertainment medium.
Well an opinion is subjective, so I don't understand what a 'subjective opinion' is. In order to make an opinion, you must infer from objective facts.
What you were trying to say is 'bad and good are subjective [and therefore you no one can be either right or wrong, ever.]'. That's preposterous. You can be.
Here is an extreme example of a bad opinion:
'I thought Batman v Superman was a good movie because the weather was clear that day and there weren't many people at the theatre'. Unless you have a super low IQ (and yes, people like this do exist, though very rarely), I should not need to explain why it's a bad opinion.
Here is an extreme example of a good opinion:
'I thought Batman v Superman wasn't a good movie because the plot, pacing, and characters weren't fully developed, and Zack Snyder continues to show he is incapable of handling subject matter beyond comic-book action; since his days as the director of the mindnumbing bro movie 300, his movies have continued to overwhelm him as the themes got heavier in Watchmen, Sucker Punch, and Man of Steel.'
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I didn't make any of this up. You can take a rhetoric, logic, and philosophy course in college or university. I went to a Catholic school, so I've known this since I was 15. You can have right or wrong opinions, and they can form good or bad opinions.
The crux of your crisis lies in whether you like what everyone calls a bad movie. To that I say, eat the frog. I like bad movies like the Fast and Furious franchise, or the Transporter franchise. I know they're bad. I don't give a damn because I like alpha males and hot chicks. I don't need to try justify why they're good movies, because they really aren't, and I'll take it on the chin.
P.S I haven't seen the BvS movie, nor intend to. I'm just parroting the common consensus.
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