TWILIGHT.....
I admire your bravado. Reeks of trying too hard, to me.This topic is locked from further discussion.
TWILIGHT.....
I admire your bravado. Reeks of trying too hard, to me.[QUOTE="DEVILinIRON"][QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]That's a shame. I love the entire thing... It truly was an experience the first time I watched it. Same, one of my favourite films. :(I was super into Stalker- until the movie got all philosophical with the dialog, then subtlety was thrown out the window. Very dissapointed.
super_mario_128
I would have liked it more, had it contained more dialog that... you know, real people say in real life? I hate movies that have the characters explain verbally in every detail, what they think. Movies like The Dark Knight and V for Vendetta did that, and it's just cheap, there's no subtlety, no realism for that matter either. Don't say it, show it.
Did you see the Joan of ark film with Milla Jovovich that Luc Besson directed? Its not great but it has some nice visuals.
Film-Guy
Oddly enough no I have not despite the fact that I think I've seen every Besson or Jovovich film...which is weird. The other Joan film that I really want to see but somehow I have not as of yet is Cecil B. DeMille's "Joan The Woman (1916)".
Methinks it would be fun to sit down one day and watch "Out 1" and "Satantango" back to back. :shock:
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]
Did you see the Joan of ark film with Milla Jovovich that Luc Besson directed? Its not great but it has some nice visuals.
Lord_Daemon
Oddly enough no I have not despite the fact that I think I've seen every Besson or Jovovich film...which is weird. The other Joan film that I really want to see but somehow I have not as of yet is Cecil B. DeMille's "Joan The Woman (1916)".
Methinks it would be fun to sit down one day and watch "Out 1" and "Satantango" back to back. :shock:
Its odd how Milla Jovovich seems to be a good actress, but mostly stars in crappy Resident evil movies. The only time she impressed me was in The Fifth Elements. She wasn't bad in The Messenger either.
Same, one of my favourite films. :([QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="DEVILinIRON"] That's a shame. I love the entire thing... It truly was an experience the first time I watched it.TheGrayEye
I would have liked it more, had it contained more dialog that... you know, real people say in real life? I hate movies that have the characters explain verbally in every detail, what they think. Movies like The Dark Knight and V for Vendetta did that, and it's just cheap, there's no subtlety, no realism for that matter either. Don't say it, show it.
I could see how that could turn someone off, but it's not suppose to be a normal film in terms of narrative, the film is a metaphysical experience and goes truly on emotion, I admired the film for many reasons and when you get into films by Tarkovsky and Bergman it takes a while to get use to it.... Especially Tarkovsky. :PMethinks it would be fun to sit down one day and watch "Out 1" and "Satantango" back to back. :shock:Lord_DaemonMy god, you have seen Out 1 too? DAMN YOU!!!! :P But yeah that would really be something, Satango didn't feel 7 hours for me it felt much shorter, I loved it...
[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Same, one of my favourite films. :(Jazz_Fan
I would have liked it more, had it contained more dialog that... you know, real people say in real life? I hate movies that have the characters explain verbally in every detail, what they think. Movies like The Dark Knight and V for Vendetta did that, and it's just cheap, there's no subtlety, no realism for that matter either. Don't say it, show it.
I could see how that could turn someone off, but it's not suppose to be a normal film in terms of narrative, the film is a metaphysical experience and goes truly on emotion, I admired the film for many reasons and when you get into films by Tarkovsky and Bergman it takes a while to get use to it.... Especially Tarkovsky. :PI understood that the film tried to be different from a normal film, in terms of plot and dialog, but by having the characters go on verbally near the middle/end about how they felt, it actually degrades the artsy slow-moving/quiet attempt, and instead brings it back into a more common dialog-filled movie. The sequences that focused soley on the actor's faces brought about more thought and emotion, than did the philosophical rants.
I've heard people say Tarkovsky is a lot like Kubrick, but Kubrick would never have done that- not in a million years. Based soley on Stalker, I would say Tarkovsky is somewhere between Kubrick... and the Wachowski brothers.
I could see how that could turn someone off, but it's not suppose to be a normal film in terms of narrative, the film is a metaphysical experience and goes truly on emotion, I admired the film for many reasons and when you get into films by Tarkovsky and Bergman it takes a while to get use to it.... Especially Tarkovsky. :P[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"][QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]
I would have liked it more, had it contained more dialog that... you know, real people say in real life? I hate movies that have the characters explain verbally in every detail, what they think. Movies like The Dark Knight and V for Vendetta did that, and it's just cheap, there's no subtlety, no realism for that matter either. Don't say it, show it.
TheGrayEye
I understood that the film tried to be different from a normal film, in terms of plot and dialog, but by having the characters go on verbally near the middle/end about how they felt, it actually degrades the artsy slow-moving/quiet attempt, and instead brings it back into a more common dialog-filled movie. The sequences that focused soley on the actor's faces brought about more thought and emotion, than did the philosophical rants.
I've heard people say Tarkovsky is a lot like Kubrick, but Kubrick would never have done that- not in a million years. Based soley on Stalker, I would say Tarkovsky is somewhere between Kubrick... and the Wachowski brothers.
Kind of a hyperblow to compare him to the Wachowski brothers, no? :P I would never compare Tarkovsky to Kubrick, Kubrick is pessimistic and very emotionless at times, The poetry may seem out of place but I really loved it, I felt it added a lot more to the characters position near the end of the film. I love how he shows the path they go threw of life and belief of something better, I really can't say I understood the film, but I certainly love it for many reasons....Couldn't tell you... no one can. Unless they have seen every movie ever made and have an objective way of evaluating all of them against one another... and then it wouldn't even help as soon as a new movie comes out and screws up the entire evaluation method.
I think the issue more comes down to our "favourite" films. I have many films that I really like, and many of them can be mentioned here, but none of them really are as great an adventure or good time as the Lord of the Rings. It is three films, but technically still one, just like the "books".
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