BREAKING NEWS: House cannot pass Senate Health Care Bill

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

:| No it was not.. When he entered office he literally did nothing when it came to legislation.. When 9/11 occured the flurry of legislation occured.. INFACT the only major legislation he passed was on tax cuts, THAT was it.

sSubZerOo

Lulz, Obama Fails Again. :D

(Puts on Flame Suit)

Who cares anymore? People need to stop having faith in this country. It's done withistuffedsunny

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Good. Maybe they'll scrap that piece of garbage and actually take some time and come up with a well thought out bill. They'll get more votes if they put more effort and thought into it. Most people want health reform, they just didnt want a rushed garbage bill.

sonicare

Lulz, Obama Fails Again.

Snipes_2

Hrmm... I'm curious how exactly this is Obama failing? I mean, I think he could be doing a better job of getting House Dems to support the bill, but I think you're going a little far there...

Lulz, Obama Fails Again. :D

(Puts on Flame Suit)

Snipes_2

Historically speaking, health care reform has been something that is practically a century in the making, so even getting this close is actually pretty remarkable.

Not that I'd be terribly happy with "close but no cigar", but I'm just sayin'.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]They are a minority and based on that shouldn't the bill been squelched long ago..?sSubZerOo

Not to mention that if they're manipulating the media, they're doing a terrible job, considering how misinformed the public is about it...

This is easily one of the worst aspects of democracy, really.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="fidosim"] It should have, but the Democrats have been intend on passing the bill through backroom deals and media manipulation.GabuEx

Not to mention that if they're manipulating the media, they're doing a terrible job, considering how misinformed the public is about it...

This is easily one of the worst aspects of democracy, really.

Somebody wake me up when all this "CHANGE!" starts happening.

In addition for a chance of the people electing an idiot. Democracy, like all forms of government is a double edged sword.On3ShotOneKill

Well they both more or less stem from the same problem: the general public generally doesn't know much of anything about the complex issues (i.e., any issue where it's not just complete opinion over what's good and what's bad), and yet they vote based on what they think they know about them anyway. Garbage in, garbage out, as the saying goes.

And then anyone who actually identifies this fact is consequently called an elitist. :P

Its really easy to just not vote if you haven't educated yourself to the point where your vote is an educated one. People get so lost in the "Its my right to vote" BS that they just do it because they feel some form of moral or ethical obligation to fulfill a civic duty.

And the media doesnt help. All they seem to be worried about is quanity of turnout and not "quality" of turnout. You never see ads that would incline people to learn about issues or instruct them on how to do so. They just tell you to vote and remind you that its your job to get your's cast regardless of how flagrantly misplaced it might be.

In reality, if you dont know what you are voting for its less detrimental to not vote at all. Its not your civic obligation to vote, its your civic obligation to vote CORRECTLY.

People are by and large a lazy breed and will just vote for whoever is the same color or whoever has the same party affiliation with little or no investigation involved.

I'm so happy Obamacare is a fail now. I can stop worrying now.Hank_R_Hill

Mmm... what were you worried about, might I ask?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]It doesn't seem to me like our government is actually working how it's intended too when they have to "rush" bills through congress because a person of the opposite party just got elected.batman_is_aweso

yea they should take longer

i think we should wait for our 14 trillion+ debt lower down before we should talk about health care

just adding more to that 14 trill is nuts

[QUOTE="Hank_R_Hill"]I'm so happy Obamacare is a fail now. I can stop worrying now.chessmaster1989

Mmm... what were you worried about, might I ask?

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Hank_R_Hill"]I'm so happy Obamacare is a fail now. I can stop worrying now.Hank_R_Hill

Mmm... what were you worried about, might I ask?

The number of unemployed who simply do not work is not significant for that to be a legitimate argument. Quality of healthcare will not decline because the government is taking no active role in managing healthcare. Hell, it won't even be providing an alternate insurance option. There won't be a "massive tax increase"... it's not part of the bill.

[QUOTE="Hank_R_Hill"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Mmm... what were you worried about, might I ask?

chessmaster1989

The number of unemployed who simply do not work is not significant for that to be a legitimate argument. Quality of healthcare will not decline because the government is taking no active role in managing healthcare. Hell, it won't even be providing an alternate insurance option. There won't be a "massive tax increase"... it's not part of the bill.