British man jailed for wearing offensive t-shirt

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Doesn't matter the when. Speech is either free or it's not. And in the UK...it doesn't seem to be free.LJS9502_basic

section 4a public order offence - displaying writing or other visible representation with intention of causing harassment, alarm or distress.

Sucks to be him but it's his own fault.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="JohnF111"]

section 4a public order offence - displaying writing or other visible representation with intention of causing harassment, alarm or distress.

Sucks to be him but it's his own fault.

JohnF111

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shmiity"]

What does that have to do with anything? It's a shirt. You should not be arrested for your thoughts. Also, are butts sensored on USA tv? Maybe, but... you also don't get arrested for it.

I hope this case blows up- I mean, sure, it was offensive, but its 2012... come on UK.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]This is a blatant violation of freedom of speech. NiKva

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you're saying the British can't make up their own minds but follow T-shirt slogans? Seems a problem with the population then.LJS9502_basic

I don't care what the hell you have on your shirt no matter how stupid or messed up it is.

You should never be jailed for something like that.

Stupid man,

Stupid shirt,

Stupid laws

Oh, come on. The shirt isn't that bad. One less pig is better than more or the same amount of pigs. F*** the police! They're just a bunch of state hired thugs! Also, f*** the British government and their laws. If I wanted to live in a police state with cameras everywhere I'd move to... well s*** all governments are bad and I don't want to live in any police state, including the UK.

Hes an idiot, but Jail is a bit too much, how about a warning or something.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not arguing that it's the law...I'm arguing it's a bad law. Big difference.:|LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] So you're saying this man should have the right to harass and cause distress? It's rare that it ends up with a prison sentence but he was a callous jerk who did it purely to cause a disturbance, free speech or not that was why he did it. He deserved it.rastotm

Stay free Britain. :lol:

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Opinions don't cause disturbances unless the other people are immature. Perhaps if an actual disturbance occurs one can arrest those causing a disturbance and not those who voice unpopular opinions. But hey...not my fault the UK has no free speech laws. *shrugs*LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="MrMr-x2"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]Freedom of speech can go fvck itself when someone crosses such boundaries. Have a good time there hero.GazaAli

Stay free Britain. :lol:

Storm_Marine

Funny you should say that..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Indexbecause the UK is ranked at 7th, and the United States 8th when it comes to personal liberty..

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Stay free Britain. :lol:

sSubZerOo

Funny you should say that..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Indexbecause the UK is ranked at 7th, and the United States 8th when it comes to personal liberty..

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Stay free Britain. :lol:

sSubZerOo

Funny you should say that..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Indexbecause the UK is ranked at 7th, and the United States 8th when it comes to personal liberty..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Stay free Britain. :lol:

TheFallenDemon

Funny you should say that..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Indexbecause the UK is ranked at 7th, and the United States 8th when it comes to personal liberty..

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Funny you should say that..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Indexbecause the UK is ranked at 7th, and the United States 8th when it comes to personal liberty..

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]
too bad he's canadian dumbass

TheFallenDemon

Your lucky we aren't in the UK, or they would throw you in prison for that one!:P

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Thank you for adding absolutely nothing to discussion.. Dumbass.sSubZerOo

Your lucky we aren't in the UK, or they would throw you in prison for that one!:P

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Opinions don't cause disturbances unless the other people are immature. Perhaps if an actual disturbance occurs one can arrest those causing a disturbance and not those who voice unpopular opinions. But hey...not my fault the UK has no free speech laws. *shrugs*LJS9502_basic

People in the U.K. hold different values then people in the U.S., diversity is important. I think he asked for trouble and got it, I have no issue with him going to prison.

Voltaire - "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." There are always going to be jerks that abuse freedom of speech, but for the most part, it shouldnt be conditional.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rastotm"] Do you know that the dude had kill a cop for fun written on the back of his t-shirt? It's a pretty severe statement that can cause some distress, I can imagine that people would fear such a men due to the insanity of his statement

tenaka2

People in the U.K. hold different values then people in the U.S., diversity is important. I think he asked for trouble and got it, I have no issue with him going to prison.

Going to jail is another one of those "you cant be serious" moments, but wait wait wait is it true that he might face months in jail for disrupting public order??

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Whoa hoooo!

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not reported by the BBC.....now why would they back down from that? Even if true...it's still just an idiot with a t-shirt. Not something that should result in jail. sonicare

People in the U.K. hold different values then people in the U.S., diversity is important. I think he asked for trouble and got it, I have no issue with him going to prison.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

People in the U.K. hold different values then people in the U.S., diversity is important. I think he asked for trouble and got it, I have no issue with him going to prison.

rastotm

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]If diversity is important, then why are they suppressing his voice? Because it doesnt jibe with the majority? LJS9502_basic

its the a law that people of the U.k. agree with. The WBC would never be allowed to protest as they do if they were in the U.K., personally I prefer to live somewhere that does not tolerate hatred.

Not all people have the u.s. mind set, this is not a bad thing.

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]If diversity is important, then why are they suppressing his voice? Because it doesnt jibe with the majority? LJS9502_basic

This is a blatant violation of freedom of speech. Laihendi

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

TheFallenDemon

Your lucky we aren't in the UK, or they would throw you in prison for that one!:P

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]This is a blatant violation of freedom of speech. TopTierHustler

lol of course there is freedom of speech, didnt someone post a chart which shows the uk having a higher level of liberty then the u.s.?

[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Your lucky we aren't in the UK, or they would throw you in prison for that one!:P

TopTierHustler

one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Plus no country in the world has funded more terrorists then the u.s.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]If it is against their public order offence laws then I fail to see the problem. Laihendi

THIS!

Laws are often stupid,very stupid,or extremely stupid.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]If it is against their public order offence laws then I fail to see the problem. GreekGameManiac

THIS!

Laws are often stupid,very stupid,or extremely stupid.

The law in this case is not stupid, its a good law, in the same way that the uk has harsh gun laws. We would not see our society degenerate into anything resembling the u.s.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rastotm"] Some nations simply value a certain level of respect, so the majority of britain won't mind that people like t-shirt man get punished.clyde46

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] If it's against their laws then the problem is their laws.tenaka2

THIS!

Laws are often stupid,very stupid,or extremely stupid.

The law in this case is not stupid, its a good law, in the same way that the uk has harsh gun laws. We would not see our society degenerate into anything resembling the u.s.

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] If it's against their laws then the problem is their laws.tenaka2

THIS!

Laws are often stupid,very stupid,or extremely stupid.

The law in this case is not stupid, its a good law, in the same way that the uk has harsh gun laws. We would not see our society degenerate into anything resembling the u.s.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]The law in this case is not stupid, its a good law, in the same way that the uk has harsh gun laws. We would not see our society degenerate into anything resembling the u.s.Laihendi

[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]If diversity is important, then why are they suppressing his voice? Because it doesnt jibe with the majority? LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rastotm"] Some nations simply value a certain level of respect, so the majority of britain won't mind that people like t-shirt man get punished.darkmoney52

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"] Yes, it can. There is a reason why bullying has been such a big topic in the US. Offensive statements, whether spoken or written, with the intention to offend and harass individuals, are often considered punishable offences. That is the case here. Get over it.

SolidSnake35

That statement offends me. I will be reporting you to the hate speech police.