British man jailed for wearing offensive t-shirt

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You're missing some of the key ingredients here. Hyperbole is not factual. But hey......the Queen does have the Tower of London to take care of her problems. See how easy it is to make exaggerations and have truths?

LJS9502_basic

If only it were hyperbole, then your post would be relevant.

Again your usual approach of dismissing facts that don't fit with your argument is all to common.

These issues really aren't going to affect the regular cirizens. And frankly if they did....there would be hell to pay. While I'm not saying I agree with them....your usage of them is hyperbole, exaggeration, and misinformation.

All you comments are irelevant 'regular citizens' lol your land of the free is an illusion, you live in a country with less free rights then the u.k. but still choose to stand on your high horse, you country falls lower then the u.k. in terms of freedom, get over it.

Stop trying to pretend the u.s. is the land of the free any more, your 'excuces' are worth;ess.

Having said that you are a great aplogist, perhaps you should stick with religion?

AMERICA YAY :P

Assassination of U.S. citizens

Last month, administration officials affirmed that power, stating that the president can order the assassination of any citizen whom he considers allied with terrorists.

Indefinite detention

Under the law signed last month, terrorism suspects are to be held by the military; the president also has the authority to indefinitely detain citizens accused of terrorism.

The Administration continues to claim the right to strip citizens of legal protections based on its sole discretion. (China recently codified a more limited detention law for its citizens, while countries such as Cambodia have been singled out by the United States for prolonged detention.)

Arbitrary justice

The president now decides whether a person will receive a trial in the federal courts or in a military tribunal, a system that has been ridiculed around the world for lacking basic due process protections.

Warrantless searches

The president may now order warrantless surveillance, including a new capability to force companies and organizations to turn over information on citizens finances, communications and associations. Bush acquired this sweeping power under the Patriot Act in 2001, and in 2011, Obama extended the power, including searches of everything from business documents to library records.

Secret evidence

The government now routinely uses secret evidence to detain individuals and employs secret evidence in federal and military courts. It also forces the dismissal of cases against the United States by simply filing declarations that the cases would make the government reveal classified information that would harm national security a claim made in a variety of privacy lawsuits and largely accepted by federal judges without question.

War crimes

The world clamored for prosecutions of those responsible for waterboarding terrorism suspects during the Bush administration, but the Obama administration said in 2009 that it would not allow CIA employees to be investigated or prosecuted for such actions.

Secret court

The government has increased its use of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has expanded its secret warrants to include individuals deemed to be aiding or abetting hostile foreign governments or organizations. In 2011, Obama renewed these powers, including allowing secret searches of individuals who are not part of an identifiable terrorist group.

Immunity from judicial review

Like the Bush administration, the Obama administration has successfully pushed for immunity for companies that assist in warrantless surveillance of citizens, blocking the ability of citizens to challenge the violation of privacy.

Continual monitoring of citizens

The Obama administration has successfully defended its claim that it can use GPS devices to monitor every move of targeted citizens without securing any court order or review.

Extraordinary renditions

The government now has the ability to transfer both citizens and noncitizens to another country under a system known as extraordinary rendition, which has been denounced as using other countries, such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan, to torture suspects.

Land of the free? I don't think so.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You're missing some of the key ingredients here. Hyperbole is not factual. But hey......the Queen does have the Tower of London to take care of her problems. See how easy it is to make exaggerations and have truths?

LJS9502_basic

If only it were hyperbole, then your post would be relevant.

Again your usual approach of dismissing facts that don't fit with your argument is all to common.

These issues really aren't going to affect the regular cirizens. And frankly if they did....there would be hell to pay. While I'm not saying I agree with them....your usage of them is hyperbole, exaggeration, and misinformation.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

If only it were hyperbole, then your post would be relevant.

Again your usual approach of dismissing facts that don't fit with your argument is all to common.

Nibroc420

These issues really aren't going to affect the regular cirizens. And frankly if they did....there would be hell to pay. While I'm not saying I agree with them....your usage of them is hyperbole, exaggeration, and misinformation.

Lj will do anything to protect the illusion he has of the U.S. despite the facts.

:lol: How pathetic.

He's stating it as it is. Quit your trolling LJS, it's getting hard for anyone to take you seriously.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]He's stating it as it is. Quit your trolling LJS, it's getting hard for anyone to take you seriously.Aljosa23

:cool:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

If only it were hyperbole, then your post would be relevant.

Again your usual approach of dismissing facts that don't fit with your argument is all to common.

tenaka2

These issues really aren't going to affect the regular cirizens. And frankly if they did....there would be hell to pay. While I'm not saying I agree with them....your usage of them is hyperbole, exaggeration, and misinformation.

All you comments are irelevant 'regular citizens' lol your land of the free is an illusion, you live in a country with less free rights then the u.k. but still choose to stand on your high horse, you country falls lower then the u.k. in terms of freedom, get over it.

Stop trying to pretend the u.s. is the land of the free any more, your 'excuces' are worth;ess.

Having said that you are a great aplogist, perhaps you should stick with religion?

He's a moron but I don't think he should be jailed for it.

tryagainlater

So, I did skim a lot, but correct me if I'm wrong. He's being offensive towards dead people, and being jailed for it.

Can we send the Westboro Baptist Church people to England?

So, I did skim a lot, but correct me if I'm wrong. He's being offensive towards dead people, and being jailed for it.

Can we send the Westboro Baptist Church people to England?

zeldaluff

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Facts? That is all skewed. It's hyperbole.

These issues really aren't going to affect the regular cirizens. And frankly if they did....there would be hell to pay. While I'm not saying I agree with them....your usage of them is hyperbole, exaggeration, and misinformation.

LJS9502_basic

All you comments are irelevant 'regular citizens' lol your land of the free is an illusion, you live in a country with less free rights then the u.k. but still choose to stand on your high horse, you country falls lower then the u.k. in terms of freedom, get over it.

Stop trying to pretend the u.s. is the land of the free any more, your 'excuces' are worth;ess.

Having said that you are a great aplogist, perhaps you should stick with religion?

lol

AMERICA YAY

Assassination of U.S. citizens

Last month, administration officials affirmed that power, stating that the president can order the assassination of any citizen whom he considers allied with terrorists.

Indefinite detention

Under the law signed last month, terrorism suspects are to be held by the military; the president also has the authority to indefinitely detain citizens accused of terrorism.

The Administration continues to claim the right to strip citizens of legal protections based on its sole discretion. (China recently codified a more limited detention law for its citizens, while countries such as Cambodia have been singled out by the United States for prolonged detention.)

Arbitrary justice

The president now decides whether a person will receive a trial in the federal courts or in a military tribunal, a system that has been ridiculed around the world for lacking basic due process protections.

Warrantless searches

The president may now order warrantless surveillance, including a new capability to force companies and organizations to turn over information on citizens finances, communications and associations. Bush acquired this sweeping power under the Patriot Act in 2001, and in 2011, Obama extended the power, including searches of everything from business documents to library records.

Secret evidence

The government now routinely uses secret evidence to detain individuals and employs secret evidence in federal and military courts. It also forces the dismissal of cases against the United States by simply filing declarations that the cases would make the government reveal classified information that would harm national security a claim made in a variety of privacy lawsuits and largely accepted by federal judges without question.

War crimes

The world clamored for prosecutions of those responsible for waterboarding terrorism suspects during the Bush administration, but the Obama administration said in 2009 that it would not allow CIA employees to be investigated or prosecuted for such actions.

Secret court

The government has increased its use of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has expanded its secret warrants to include individuals deemed to be aiding or abetting hostile foreign governments or organizations. In 2011, Obama renewed these powers, including allowing secret searches of individuals who are not part of an identifiable terrorist group.

Immunity from judicial review

Like the Bush administration, the Obama administration has successfully pushed for immunity for companies that assist in warrantless surveillance of citizens, blocking the ability of citizens to challenge the violation of privacy.

Continual monitoring of citizens

The Obama administration has successfully defended its claim that it can use GPS devices to monitor every move of targeted citizens without securing any court order or review.

Extraordinary renditions

The government now has the ability to transfer both citizens and noncitizens to another country under a system known as extraordinary rendition, which has been denounced as using other countries, such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan, to torture suspects.

Land of the free? I don't think so.

good luck with that

Less free rights? We have more freedom in speech, we have more freedom in gun ownership.....LJS9502_basic

The more quotes you crop the more stupid you look. have you even looked at what your government has done?

So in UK, we can say "F*ck you!" to people who are alive but wearing a t-shirt with offensive opinion towards 2 dead people, we go to jail ?Zensword

Nope you cant because it feedom of speeh, if your tshirt said ' all gays go to hell' and some one reported you you would be asked to remove the t-shirt'

if you refused you may go jail.

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So in UK, we can say "F*ck you!" to people who are alive but wearing a t-shirt with offensive opinion towards 2 dead people, we go to jail ?tenaka2

Nope you cant because it feedom of speeh, if your tshirt said ' all gays go to hell' and some one reported you you would be asked to remove the t-shirt'

if you refused you may go jail.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So in UK, we can say "F*ck you!" to people who are alive but wearing a t-shirt with offensive opinion towards 2 dead people, we go to jail ?jesuschristmonk

Nope you cant because it feedom of speeh, if your tshirt said ' all gays go to hell' and some one reported you you would be asked to remove the t-shirt'

if you refused you may go jail.

Really?

If someone in the us had a t-shirt saying (9-11) best day in american histroy 5k dead YAY :)'

how would americans react :)

What if someone paid to have those posters put up in new york on 40m by 40m billboards, how would that work out?

[QUOTE="Zensword"]So in UK, we can say "F*ck you!" to people who are alive but wearing a t-shirt with offensive opinion towards 2 dead people, we go to jail ?tenaka2

Nope you cant because it feedom of speeh, if your tshirt said ' all gays go to hell' and some one reported you you would be asked to remove the t-shirt'

if you refused you may go jail.

If I made an 9/11 hahah poster how long would I last on this board? You speech laws are a joke.

I would never do that, its an example, but if i did id be banned in minutes, rethink.

Ie iwill most likly get suspended for mentionting 9/11 is that freedom of speech?

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Nope you cant because it feedom of speeh, if your tshirt said ' all gays go to hell' and some one reported you you would be asked to remove the t-shirt'

if you refused you may go jail.

tenaka2

Really?

If someone in the us had a t-shirt saying (9-11) best day in american histroy 5k dead YAY :)'

how would americans react :)

What if someone paid to have those posters put up in new york on 40m by 40m billboards, how would that work out?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Less free rights? We have more freedom in speech, we have more freedom in gun ownership.....tenaka2

The more quotes you crop the more stupid you look. have you even looked at what your government has done?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Less free rights? We have more freedom in speech, we have more freedom in gun ownership.....tenaka2

The more quotes you crop the more stupid you look. have you even looked at what your government has done?

Can we send the Westboro Baptist Church people to England?zeldaluff

If I made an 9/11 hahah poster how long would I last on this board? You speech laws are a joke.

I would never do that, its an example, but if i did id be banned in minutes, rethink.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Nope you cant because it feedom of speeh, if your tshirt said ' all gays go to hell' and some one reported you you would be asked to remove the t-shirt'

if you refused you may go jail.

tenaka2

Really?

If someone in the us had a t-shirt saying (9-11) best day in american histroy 5k dead YAY :)'

how would americans react :)

What if someone paid to have those posters put up in new york on 40m by 40m billboards, how would that work out?

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="harashawn"] Hate speech is not a freedom or right, simple as that.harashawn