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#151 capaho
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The hypocrisy in this thread is rather surprising. 

jimkabrhel

What are some examples?

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#152 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

The hypocrisy in this thread is rather surprising. 

capaho

What are some examples?

Me actually. I'm a terrible bully around here.

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I have nothing to fear, because my dad is bigger than your dad, and my brother knows karate.
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#154 coolbeans90
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You're such a pvssy TC.T-Bone91

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#155 coolbeans90
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i don't think any users deserve to be denied proper argument and conversation...

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I disagree. There are certain conditions that need to be met for that.

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#156 MissLibrarian
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Quit your bitchin'

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#157 MissLibrarian
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Having read through this thread I want to expand on it a little more. 

I fully admit that I have been embroiled in some bitter feuds here before but I can't condone those actions. I think it is right that everyone should be treated with a general respect and courtesy. So long as people aren't breaking the rules and generally behaving themselves there is no reason to single them out, even if they have different political or religious opinions or whatever. 

I do think that there are some trolls here who lay themselves open to frustrated retaliation. Orbs and Laihendi, as random examples I can think of, both pick fights without actually being open to debate. Often someone goes to some effort to explain a certain point to them only to be dismissed without actually getting a real reply - I can understand why that gets frustrating and why people might toss in an insult or whatever in the heat of things. If individuals such as the two I mentioned aren't willing to show respect and listen to others then I guess it is to be expected that other people won't respect them.

However in the past I think there was genuine bullying based on such reasons as level-climbing and shiz, but thankfully I think that people don't seem to be those obsessive kind of bullies here anymore, at least from what I've seen recently. A positive result of the rule change I think.

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#158 Pitbulllova
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I agree, bullying is a serious problem here. People should make more of an effort to keep discourse civilized and rational.Laihendi
this.
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#159 Pitbulllova
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[QUOTE="T-Bone91"]You're such a pvssy TC.coolbeans90

bully. please refrain such language to your self ma'am.
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#160 GD-1369211121
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I haven't been here since last year, so I have no idea what's going on.

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#161 SirWander
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I haven't been here since last year, so I have no idea what's going on.

GD-1369211121

well for one, we can write shit, mods are pretty lax now. 

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#162 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="T-Bone91"]You're such a pvssy TC.coolbeans90

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#163 GD-1369211121
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[QUOTE="GD-1369211121"]

I haven't been here since last year, so I have no idea what's going on.

SirWander

well for one, we can write shit, mods are pretty lax now. 

I've gotten so many moderations for the dumbest things in the past. Glad to see the mods are less sensative. I don't recognize a single user on here anymore. Haha.

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#164 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="T-Bone91"]You're such a pvssy TC.Jebus213

This^

And why would you want or care for the respect of a bunch of random people that spend too much time on the internet???

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#165 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Bane_09

This^

And why would you want or care for the respect of a bunch of random people that spend too much time on the internet???

 

TC is new to the internet.

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#166 SirWander
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@GD-1369211121: mhm, though some of the mods have self-esteem issues

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]damn, I was happy kraychik was backHallenBeck77

^

Fvcking mods.

Tar and feather the whole lot of 'em! 

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#167 -Tish-
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BAHAHAHA! Yup, cyber-bullying is an actual thing. The struggle is real!
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#168 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I agree, bullying is a serious problem here. People should make more of an effort to keep discourse civilized and rational.Laihendi

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

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#169 Zuzuvela
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As far as Im concerned, as long as no one is being sent abusive PMs, there is no need to get worked up about anything said in the forum
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#170 Godly_Cure
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i'm familiar with a 'certain' bully on OT :lol:

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Man up son.
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#171 soulless4now
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We need a bully database to enlighten everyone. >.>

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#172 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I agree, bullying is a serious problem here. People should make more of an effort to keep discourse civilized and rational.sSubZerOo

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.
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#173 Laihendi
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Having read through this thread I want to expand on it a little more. 

I fully admit that I have been embroiled in some bitter feuds here before but I can't condone those actions. I think it is right that everyone should be treated with a general respect and courtesy. So long as people aren't breaking the rules and generally behaving themselves there is no reason to single them out, even if they have different political or religious opinions or whatever. 

I do think that there are some trolls here who lay themselves open to frustrated retaliation. Orbs and Laihendi, as random examples I can think of, both pick fights without actually being open to debate. Often someone goes to some effort to explain a certain point to them only to be dismissed without actually getting a real reply - I can understand why that gets frustrating and why people might toss in an insult or whatever in the heat of things. If individuals such as the two I mentioned aren't willing to show respect and listen to others then I guess it is to be expected that other people won't respect them.

However in the past I think there was genuine bullying based on such reasons as level-climbing and shiz, but thankfully I think that people don't seem to be those obsessive kind of bullies here anymore, at least from what I've seen recently. A positive result of the rule change I think.

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#174 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I agree, bullying is a serious problem here. People should make more of an effort to keep discourse civilized and rational.Laihendi

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.

QFT. There's a huge difference between adult humans who're able to care for themselves; and adult humans who require other adults to wipe their ****, feed them, clothe them, work to pay their bills etc.
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#175 indzman
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Lai is a good guy but he tries to explain much to total strangers on internet. Just stop responding to haters and get over with it lai :P

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#176 Laihendi
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Lai is a good guy but he tries to explain much to total strangers on internet. Just stop responding to haters and get over with it lai :P

indzman
I consider it a moral cause to explain how people are wrong.
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#177 indzman
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

Lai is a good guy but he tries to explain much to total strangers on internet. Just stop responding to haters and get over with it lai :P

Laihendi

I consider it a moral cause to explain how people are wrong.

many people on internet will never admit they are wrong even if they are, why waste your time and energy proving them wrong ? You got better things to do. 

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#178 indzman
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BTW where is brucewayne,mithrandir nowadays ? suspended ?

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#179 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="indzman"]

Lai is a good guy but he tries to explain much to total strangers on internet. Just stop responding to haters and get over with it lai :P

indzman

I consider it a moral cause to explain how people are wrong.

many people on internet will never admit they are wrong even if they are, why waste your time and energy proving them wrong ? You got better things to do. 

I think it is important for rational individuals to be outspoken about their beliefs in order to curb destructive tendencies in popular opinion/culture.
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#180 Laihendi
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BTW where is brucewayne,mithrandir nowadays ? suspended ?

indzman
Yes he is. He visits Dave's place most days, however.
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#181 indzman
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I consider it a moral cause to explain how people are wrong.Laihendi

many people on internet will never admit they are wrong even if they are, why waste your time and energy proving them wrong ? You got better things to do. 

I think it is important for rational individuals to be outspoken about their beliefs in order to curb destructive tendencies in popular opinion/culture.

mhm

carry on :P

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#182 indzman
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

BTW where is brucewayne,mithrandir nowadays ? suspended ?

Laihendi

Yes he is. He visits Dave's place most days, however.

damn :(

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#183 branketra
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I agree, bullying is a serious problem here. People should make more of an effort to keep discourse civilized and rational.Laihendi

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.

You are insulting mentally ill individuals which is disrespectful. Do you not understand?
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#184 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

BranKetra
You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.

You are insulting mentally ill individuals which is disrespectful. Do you not understand?

I am not insulting; I am stating facts. It is a fact that mentally ill people are mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. You are ignoring what it means to be ill/healthy. Illness is inferior to health, therefore an ill mind is inferior to a healthy mind. That is a matter of logic, not insults.
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#185 branketra
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.

You are insulting mentally ill individuals which is disrespectful. Do you not understand?

I am not insulting; I am stating facts. It is a fact that mentally ill people are mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. You are ignoring what it means to be ill/healthy. Illness is inferior to health, therefore an ill mind is inferior to a healthy mind. That is a matter of logic, not insults.

Calling a mentally ill individual a sub-human is illogical because the DNA of said individual is identical to what the scientific community agrees is homo-sapien. Also, illogical thought is not a definitive sign of mental illness. You disrespect individuals with faulty logic.
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#186 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Anyone with a uncommon philosophy is treated harshly, respect is hard to earn.

sune_Gem

So true.

You can't do anything out of the ordinary without someone or some people attacking you for it.

Very, very, very true. If you think otherwise, you must be "uneducated". It's pretty clear which group I refer to.
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#188 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="BranKetra"] You are insulting mentally ill individuals which is disrespectful. Do you not understand?

I am not insulting; I am stating facts. It is a fact that mentally ill people are mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. You are ignoring what it means to be ill/healthy. Illness is inferior to health, therefore an ill mind is inferior to a healthy mind. That is a matter of logic, not insults.

Calling a mentally ill individual a sub-human is illogical because the DNA of said individual is identical to what the scientific community agrees is homo-sapien. Also, illogical thought is not a definitive sign of mental illness. You disrespect individuals with faulty logic.

They're permanently conditioned with something, causing them to be less __________ than the average human. That is a fact. However you seem to believe that because of your emotion on the topic, it's somehow a false statement.
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#189 Hakumen21
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Compared to Youtube commnets and Gametrailers, this is very civil.
However, some ppl do seem to just be assholes. 

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#190 Hakumen21
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] I am not insulting; I am stating facts. It is a fact that mentally ill people are mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. You are ignoring what it means to be ill/healthy. Illness is inferior to health, therefore an ill mind is inferior to a healthy mind. That is a matter of logic, not insults.

Calling a mentally ill individual a sub-human is illogical because the DNA of said individual is identical to what the scientific community agrees is homo-sapien. Also, illogical thought is not a definitive sign of mental illness. You disrespect individuals with faulty logic.

They're permanently conditioned with something, causing them to be less __________ than the average human. That is a fact. However you seem to believe that because of your emotion on the topic, it's somehow a false statement.

Some mental illnesses are NOT permanent. Depression is not permanent. Anxiety disorder is not even permanent(just take magnesium supplements). Mental retardation is whatever you described however.
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#191 sukraj
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BTW where is brucewayne,mithrandir nowadays ? suspended ?

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never heard of that guy imo.

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#192 MissLibrarian
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I am completely open to debate. I make a statement, someone explains why they think I am wrong, and then I explain why they are actually wrong to think that I am wrong, etc. Being open to debate does not mean throwing away your convictions/arguments just because a bunch of people disagree with you. To be open to a debate with any integrity you have to be willing to say that you are right and the other person is wrong.Laihendi
I consider it a moral cause to explain how people are wrong.Laihendi
No, your severe flaw and the reason why you are utterly narrow-minded and one of the worst debaters here is this erroneous conviction you have: that you are right and everyone else is wrong. In politics, sociology and the other areas you enjoy viewing through your Rand-coloured-glasses, there IS NO right or wrong. Each individual on the planet has an idea, a preference of which they prefer and believe in, but there is nothing that makes one person's opinion right or wrong. Again, it is a preference. In my life I have grown and adapted my ideas and beliefs and they have changed a lot over time. Personally I have switched from the rabid right-wing politics I believed in as a teenager to a far more liberal leaning nowadays. The reason for this is, through my genuinely debating the subject, I have been open enough and willing to LISTEN to the arguments of others and really think about what they are saying instead of thinking that I am 'right' all the time and instantly dismissing the arguments of others as 'wrong'. Your yourself were influenced greatly by a particular author, you read her writing and it appealed to you, it was in line with your personal preference. However many other people here (myself included) have read Atlas Shrugged and have not come to the same conclusion as you. This is not because we are wrong and you are right, it is because of preference. I would be willing to debate things with you in an open-minded way, and if you were willing to expand on the points people make and offered a real answer to the points people make against your case. Instead you just say 'no, that's wrong', and no. THAT is wrong.
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#193 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="indzman"]

Lai is a good guy but he tries to explain much to total strangers on internet. Just stop responding to haters and get over with it lai :P

Laihendi
I consider it a moral cause to explain how people are wrong.

When do you admit you're wrong Lai?
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I agree, bullying is a serious problem here. People should make more of an effort to keep discourse civilized and rational.Laihendi

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.

Except that many people with mental illness are far more productive than you ever have been, and likely ever will be, you ignorant c*nt.

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#195 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Then you must get "bullied" alot with your views on things like people suffering from mental illnesses are subhuman.. Pretty much any one is going to call you a sack of sh!t for opinions like that and it is well deserved...

worlock77

You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.

Except that many people with mental illness are far more productive than you ever have been, and likely ever will be, you ignorant c*nt.

Ironically I sometimes feel he fits the definition of what he abhors. And I can't get why people cover for him here.
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"] You are just letting emotional biases interfere with your rational faculty. Mentally ill people are by definition mentally inferior to mentally healthy people. If their condition did not make them mentally inferior then it would not be an illness. Recognizing that a productive genius is the superior of some miserable wretch who can barely keep from killing himself does not make me a bad person. By claiming that everyone is equal you are insulting those who make the effort to be better than that.LJS9502_basic

Except that many people with mental illness are far more productive than you ever have been, and likely ever will be, you ignorant c*nt.

Ironically I sometimes feel he fits the definition of what he abhors. And I can't get why people cover for him here.

Because some people take great pride in the simple fact of being different. You see the same defense over and over again: "People just disrespect me because I have different views." It's used as an ironclad defense from being wrong.

I can't have said things better than Miss Librarian about his subject. I've tried time and time again to debate certain posters here, but when your foil refuses to move from one opinion/belief, it's not worth the effort.

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#197 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Except that many people with mental illness are far more productive than you ever have been, and likely ever will be, you ignorant c*nt.

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Ironically I sometimes feel he fits the definition of what he abhors. And I can't get why people cover for him here.

Because some people take great pride in the simple fact of being different. You see the same defense over and over again: "People just disrespect me because I have different views." It's used as an ironclad defense from being wrong.

I can't have said things better than Miss Librarian about his subject. I've tried time and time again to debate certain posters here, but when your foil refuses to move from one opinion/belief, it's not worth the effort.

I gave up debating some time ago.....you would have liked here about three or four years back when people did debate the topic and not just hurl insults. It's not worth it now. Better to not take it as anything more than speaking your mind and knowing the other side will not pay attention anyway. Just a way to pas the time now.:P

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ironically I sometimes feel he fits the definition of what he abhors. And I can't get why people cover for him here. LJS9502_basic

Because some people take great pride in the simple fact of being different. You see the same defense over and over again: "People just disrespect me because I have different views." It's used as an ironclad defense from being wrong.

I can't have said things better than Miss Librarian about his subject. I've tried time and time again to debate certain posters here, but when your foil refuses to move from one opinion/belief, it's not worth the effort.

I gave up debating some time ago.....you would have liked here about three or four years back when people did debate the topic and not just hurl insults. It's not worth it now. Better to not take it as anything more than speaking your mind and knowing the other side will not pay attention anyway. Just a way to pas the time now.:P

Mmhmm. And I have better ways to pass the time now.

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#199 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Because some people take great pride in the simple fact of being different. You see the same defense over and over again: "People just disrespect me because I have different views." It's used as an ironclad defense from being wrong.

I can't have said things better than Miss Librarian about his subject. I've tried time and time again to debate certain posters here, but when your foil refuses to move from one opinion/belief, it's not worth the effort.

jimkabrhel

I gave up debating some time ago.....you would have liked here about three or four years back when people did debate the topic and not just hurl insults. It's not worth it now. Better to not take it as anything more than speaking your mind and knowing the other side will not pay attention anyway. Just a way to pas the time now.:P

Mmhmm. And I have better ways to pass the time now.

That too.....anyway MissL is not going to get through to Lai anyway so she might as well have saved herself the trouble.
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#200 solidruss
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.you would have liked here about three or four years back when people did debate the topic and not just hurl insults. It's not worth it now. Better to not take it as anything more than speaking your mind and knowing the other side will not pay attention anyway. Just a way to pas the time now.:P

LJS9502_basic

 

Yeah, it's a shame we can't moderate the very obvious trolling. As I've said before it used to be fun watching people try to troll in a way that would allow them to get away with it :P