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#51 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan
Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

just explain it to me now. ifyou haev a good reason it shouldnt be hard.
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan
Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o
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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

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Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.
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#54 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

tomxizor

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Ugh...I'm not in the mood for a flame war. I'm sorry, but that is what it would escalate to if I explained my opinion. Maybe later....:)

I wont flame you I promise.
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan
Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

^_^ its ok, i just thought maybe perhaps there was a movie ive not seen before....or a new kinda helo lol . HEY...thats on TV right now o_o
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#57 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan
Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

one incedent vs an entire war...
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[QUOTE="tomxizor"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

laughingman42

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Ugh...I'm not in the mood for a flame war. I'm sorry, but that is what it would escalate to if I explained my opinion. Maybe later....:)

I wont flame you I promise.

he's too scared to stand up for his beliefs

WIMP!!!

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

laughingman42
Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

one incedent vs an entire war...

Somalia was a war, and Clinton was too scared, so he pulled out
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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC  to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .353535355353535

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

353535355353535

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

one incedent vs an entire war...

Somalia was a war, and Clinton was too scared, so he pulled out

You digging through an extremely gray area here, considering were arguing the issue of pulling out right now in Iraq.  So I wouldn't call it cowardice.

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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

353535355353535
Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

one incedent vs an entire war...

Somalia was a war, and Clinton was too scared, so he pulled out

probably because it would have ended up like iraq.
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Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

tomxizor

 

Clinton?  LOL.  Wait, let me guess: something about what the "definition of 'is' is"....

"Liberal News"...on television? Yeah, don't I wish?  LOL....

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

Sajo7

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

Thats because Media now or days is one sided. Like that thing where Bush Fired 7 Federal what you call them. While Clinton fired them all when he was President. of course no one cared when Clinton did it. but as soon a any republican does anything its evil.
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#65 tomxizor
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[QUOTE="tomxizor"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

laughingman42

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Ugh...I'm not in the mood for a flame war. I'm sorry, but that is what it would escalate to if I explained my opinion. Maybe later....:)

I wont flame you I promise.


You're not going to be the only one seeing this....:|  Alright, Clinton wasn't "OMG SO HORRIBLE!!#@#$!111", but he wasn't good either. A lot of crap went down in the 1990's, including the first attack (it was the first wasn't it?) on the WTC. Unfortunately, Clinton didn't do much about it; the guy was caught, yes, including his buddies, but no other action was taken. He did alright with the economy, and was a pretty charismatic guy, so he appealed to the masses. That's all I'm going to say at the moment. :)
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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC  to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .jointed

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

Thats because Media now or days is one sided. Like that thing where Bush Fired 7 Federal what you call them. While Clinton fired them all when he was President. of course no one cared when Clinton did it. but as soon a any republican does anything its evil.

Then Black Hawk Down shouldn't be any different.

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

Thats because Media now or days is one sided. Like that thing where Bush Fired 7 Federal what you call them. While Clinton fired them all when he was President. of course no one cared when Clinton did it. but as soon a any republican does anything its evil.

He fired then lied about it. thats what gets you in trouble in washington. getting caught lieing.

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Speaking just on the Iraq war here...leaving out bush ect... Im just making a statement here.

I think its sorta crazy and odd how 1/2 our congress and 1/2 of their congress wants us out, while 1/2 ours and 1/2 theirs wants us to stay....and both presidents want us to stay. However the 1/2 that wants us out, wants us out only after the sufficiant training of iraqi police and troops.  O_o

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

laughingman42

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

Thats because Media now or days is one sided. Like that thing where Bush Fired 7 Federal what you call them. While Clinton fired them all when he was President. of course no one cared when Clinton did it. but as soon a any republican does anything its evil.

He fired then lied about it. thats what gets you in trouble in washington. getting caught lieing.

Like when Clinton Banged whats her name?
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oh noes!
teh controversiez!1!11one!1!eleven!1!!1!1!!1!
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

ShadowTheHHFan

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

Thats because Media now or days is one sided. Like that thing where Bush Fired 7 Federal what you call them. While Clinton fired them all when he was President. of course no one cared when Clinton did it. but as soon a any republican does anything its evil.

He fired then lied about it. thats what gets you in trouble in washington. getting caught lieing.

Like when Clinton Banged wahts her name?

Monica Lewinsky? lying and credibility is the reason people dont trust us republicans
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The guy after Lincoln was far worse.
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You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.
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Monica Lewinsky? lying and credibility is the reason people dont trust us republicans353535355353535

You act as if people don't automatically close their ears when they hear the word democrat.  Everyone hates eachothers politcal stance.

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .353535355353535

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly

the average income in the US is starting to become a worthless figure. The income disparity between the rich and the poor in the US is growing daily going back towards 1920's levels in 1980 the avage CEO made about 40 times what the average person made, now its closer to 200 I ddont have a link because its an artical my sociology prof showed me and I dontremeberwhat its called. but I can tell you it is not that bad in Japan. Anyone know what the median about what the median income is in the two countries?
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You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.ShadowTheHHFan
Americans?
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The guy after Lincoln was far worse.CptJSparrow

Didn't Andrew Johnson...Get like...Impeached?  

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC  to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .353535355353535

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly

Yeah but the diffrence lies in how much you can get for your money in  said country.

Americans are wealither but they also have to spend more to get the same stuff....

Look at ..let's say... Scandinavia they have one the highest GDP per capita in the world, but things cost more there than in Germany or France.

 

 

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The guy after Lincoln was far worse.CptJSparrow

Grant or the impeached guy(can't remember his name either)?

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.353535355353535
Americans?

Yeah.
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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="tomxizor"]

Why do people say he's the worst president? He really isn't. There have been way worse presidents: Carter, Hoover, Clinton, the list goes on. There have been 43 presidents in the past 300 years; you really think he's the worst? When people say Bush is the worst president, that just shows they've been watching too much Liberal News. :roll:

353535355353535

Did you say clinton was worse than bush? o_0 explain.

Watch Red Hawk down.

dont you mean Black Hawk Down? O_o

XD yeah my bad.

If we are comparing a President's suckiness by the number of movies bashing him than I guess Bush is pretty bad. :roll:

Thats because Media now or days is one sided. Like that thing where Bush Fired 7 Federal what you call them. While Clinton fired them all when he was President. of course no one cared when Clinton did it. but as soon a any republican does anything its evil.

He fired then lied about it. thats what gets you in trouble in washington. getting caught lieing.

Like when Clinton Banged wahts her name?

Monica Lewinsky? lying and credibility is the reason people dont trust us republicans

and he got in trouble for it. but let me ask you this. would you rather a polotician lie about the things he does in his personal life, or the political things he does?
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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.ShadowTheHHFan
Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC  to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .jointed

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly

Yeah but the diffrence lies in how much you can get for your money in  said country.

Americans are wealither but they also have to spend more to get the same stuff....

Look at ..let's say... Scandinavia they have one the highest GDP per capita in the world, but things cost more there than in Germany or France.

 

 

Scandinavia is not an actual country. BTW, the median household income in the US is 46000 dollars rougly
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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.Sajo7

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

So is the UK
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.353535355353535

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

So is the UK

OK, they're pretty vocal about it too.

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.Sajo7

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .353535355353535

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly

Yeah but the diffrence lies in how much you can get for your money in said country.

Americans are wealither but they also have to spend more to get the same stuff....

Look at ..let's say... Scandinavia they have one the highest GDP per capita in the world, but things cost more there than in Germany or France.

 

 

Scandinavia is not an actual country. BTW, the median household income in the US is 46000 dollars rougly

thank you. Do you happen to know Japans?
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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .laughingman42

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly

Yeah but the diffrence lies in how much you can get for your money in said country.

Americans are wealither but they also have to spend more to get the same stuff....

Look at ..let's say... Scandinavia they have one the highest GDP per capita in the world, but things cost more there than in Germany or France.

 

 

Scandinavia is not an actual country. BTW, the median household income in the US is 46000 dollars rougly

thank you. Do you happen to know Japans?

sorry, cant find it. If you could, that'd be great
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.ShadowTheHHFan

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.

I thought is was to find and secure the WMDs for our self-preservation...

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="mi6ops"]No question, yes worst EVER ....yes worse then Nixson .....in fact worse prez. that will EVER be past ,present or future not only a poor excuse for a president but a poor excuse for a human being regardless of race , religion, or nationality .Its an insult to ALL of us as a people and i mean everyone weather American ,Iranian N.korean,English, ETC  to refer to Bush as "human" .Truelly He is and will always remain a repelent disgusting monster (no offense to sub humans and mutants) such as the elephant man and others .353535355353535

if he is as bad as you put it, then why did he get a second term?

You see, that's why the world questions the american competence....

America= richest, most advanced, and the most powerful nation in the history of the world

That is why americans say the rest of the world is full of morons

You actually belive that don't you? I don't use this word much but I can safely say that you're ignorant, and should not be allowed to voice your opinion in public.

EU and Japan both have better living standards than america.....but I will not turn this into an America vs. World debate.

the EU is not one nation, but a conglomerate of several developed nations. as for japan, their GDP per capita is about 10,000 USD below ours, and the japanese yen is BY FAR less valueable than the US dollar. Another thing, America, despite only roughly 23% of our labor force being in the industrial sector is the LEADING industrial power in the world We still have more influence, and more wealth than any other nation. Might I remind you that our military is by far the most powerful military in the world?

 

How much a country's currency is worth has nothing do to with how wealthy the country is.

Using EU in this arguement is completely valid, because you can't compare a country with 300 million inhabitants with a country like Germany (50 million), the comparision will fail in every aspect. Using EU statistics shows how the averange European lives.

Oh, and you should know that a country's "GDP per capita" can't be compared to other countries.

It simply shows how the averange person in that country lives, compared to richer and poorer classes in society.

standard of living is not an actual number, so you cant use it as an argument. GDP per capita can be used to compare things, as it is always meausured in US dollars, and americans still have an average income of 43,000 dollars. Japan is 33,000 dollars roughly

Yeah but the diffrence lies in how much you can get for your money in  said country.

Americans are wealither but they also have to spend more to get the same stuff....

Look at ..let's say... Scandinavia they have one the highest GDP per capita in the world, but things cost more there than in Germany or France.

 

 

Scandinavia is not an actual country. BTW, the median household income in the US is 46000 dollars rougly

Instead of mentioning all the countries the that region I said Scandinavia, since they have almost the same statistics...

The averange income for an american is 43,000 dollars rougly and 46,000 for a Dane (swede, Norwegian).....this means nothing

China is a great example of how the "GDP per capita" fails...

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.ShadowTheHHFan

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.

but I thought it was because of WMDs?? thats what they told us to let them go in. what happened?

They lied. they used faulty info, and now that is the excuse for saving what is left of their asses. 

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.Sajo7

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.

I thought is was to find and secure the WMDs for our self-preservation...

Says Bush, You know bush doesn't have full control over everything right? It also involves Congress, American's votes. and Actually I meant the war on terrorism is to help the people over there.

 

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.ShadowTheHHFan

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.

I thought is was to find and secure the WMDs for our self-preservation...

Says Bush, You know bush doesn't have full control over everything right? It also involves Congress, American's votes. and Actually I meant the war on terrorism is to help the people over there.

 

Well thats even more confusing, I thought the idea of the war on terrorism was to dispose of the 9/11 terrorists.

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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.Sajo7

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.

I thought is was to find and secure the WMDs for our self-preservation...

Says Bush, You know bush doesn't have full control over everything right? It also involves Congress, American's votes. and Actually I meant the war on terrorism is to help the people over there.

 

Well thats even more confusing, I thought the idea of the war on terrorism was to dispose of the 9/11 terrorists.

It was to dispose of all terrorism in that country which in turn will help it.
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Just to let you guys know you can get modded for the large quote trees so careful ;) (i think mods are sleeping right now anyhow, but still... careful with that ;) )
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   From what I have seen is the Democrats though they still have the "wimp" image that quite a few are too stupid to understand that it was created form a smear campaign, they seem to be the voice of reasoning when it comes to the two parties...

  I was awed when first of all every Republican at the party debate said they had NOTHING to change or improve about America if they could, wtf?  Are they clearly that ignorant that they believe the United STates is perfect?  It also bothers me that 3 out of the 5 said they didn't believe in Evolution.. Normally I wouldn't care, but if they are this dismissive about one of the largest backed up Scientific ideas in the community, how can we trust them if they will ever take advice from the science community when it comes to multiple issues?

   Why hasn't any of the Republican's at very least called out the Bush Organization on choosing unqualified canidates for important decisions with loyalty over competence in mind?

    Why hasn't the Republican party in general thrown any different stratgies for the war in Iraq?  I find it shocking that throwing more bodies at a problem can even be CALLED a strategy...

   In the end in these pass two terms I have lost respect for what everything the Republican party stands for..  They claim to be the party of morals and values, yet they call veterans who disagree with them cowards and unpatriotic..  How is it possible that some how they made Kerry a person who served in the Vietnam war a coward, traitor, snitch, murderer, and unpatriotic, and some how made bush a HERO when he couldn't even FINISH his training..  How the hell do these peoples have the balls calling the past Georgian senator having no knees and being unpatriotic, when none of these Republicans have ever served EVER.. While the Goergian senator (ALWAYS forget his name) lost a arm and two legs in the Vietnam war..

   How can this party be so hawkish while at the same time smereing people who have actually been in the war that happen to have a difference of opinion.. 

   That being said I am not saying Democrats are a beacon of light, but what I have seen is they are clearly the better chance.. And it shocks me that alot these peopel claim if the democrats get voted into office the country will go down hill... Wait a moment, isn't our country already going down hill?

  We have violated numerous international laws, from balistics treaty, space programs treaty, numerous nuclear treaties, and geniva convention.

  We have failed in our goals of stopping terrorism.  The group that attacked us on 9/11 is still alive and larger then ever.  We basically let go their main guy by pulling back troops for no for seeable reason.. We pre-empitvily attacked a country that did not provoke such a move.. We have  created far more terrorism sense the Iraq War then before it...  There were no WMD's we cost thousnads of soldiers lives, wounded uncountable amounts of soldirs as well as civilians over there.. Estimates have been pooring in of kill a huge amount of civilians both directly and indirectly in the War in IRaq..

    Now there is nothing to do about it..  But this party in all its genious has yet to do anything other then throw bodies at a problem that has been getting greater every day.

   It has caused our country billions of dollars, not to mention losing over 10 billion of HARD CURRENCY over there that could have very well fallen into terrorist hands.. 

  We have committed diplomatic suicide.  By first ignoring the UN, then calling countries such as France traitors and cowards for MERELY having a difference of opinion.   We have done dumbass things such as refusing all foriegn aid for Katrina from numerous countries while spending massive amounts of money in trying to solve the problem.

  The trickle down economic plan is not working, statistics have been showing the middle class is disolving where the poor become poorer and the rich become richer. Immigration has become a dieaster with the party looking from a business perspective rather then a government perspective in a issue that must be stopped.  In the end regardless of the person I automatically look down on any one with the bias of owning massive CEO's or oil industries such as the one in office, whos to say their bias in decision making isn't lead on this motivation?

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#98 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]

[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]You want to know something. The people who are complaining the MOST about this war is us.ShadowTheHHFan

Americans?

Yeah.

Well duh, since were fighting the war.

Yeah, and we're helping the People in Iraq. that is the main point of this whole war is to help that messed up Nation.

I thought is was to find and secure the WMDs for our self-preservation...

Says Bush, You know bush doesn't have full control over everything right? It also involves Congress, American's votes. and Actually I meant the war on terrorism is to help the people over there.

 

The origional war on terrorism was to keep people from attacking the US. and by invading iraq we opened up the door for a save haven for whom? the terrorist. Sadam didnt want terrorist in his country because he didnt want the US to come over there and kill him. we just did it anyway.
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sSUBZEROo : WOW!......stands,applauds.
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#100 Sajo7
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It was to dispose of all terrorism in that country which in turn will help it.ShadowTheHHFan

Well in that case lets go get fry some rebels in Africa, after that we can find some Pacific third-world country to fix up, hell, lets help out South America while we're at it.

We simply don't have the time or energy to go around helping every messed up country.