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"Natural order"? Then explain hermaphroditic, parthenogenic, and aesexual species. And go ahead and explain why bonobos are so commonly bisexual while you're at it.
Different sexualities than male + female are perfectly natural.
the sin is someone saying who they can and cannot love, the irrationality is saying to live this way because some old book tells me solamprey263
This too.
How is hereosexual rational? >__>
I have obtained several fetishes by understanding them.
I have never 'unobtained' fetishes. I'm not sure that it is possible.
Maybe through hypnosis you can 'cure' homosexual desires but I'm not sure.
It's probably easier to make a homosexual obtain bisexual feelings than 'curing' them of homosexuality.
Hey MetalDog, care to comment on these threads?
These are yours, btw, if you can't remember.
Do we still need religion?
Kind of a weird thing to say, for a supposed Christian, as you claim now...
but there is more...
I just can't find a reason to believe in God.
I must say this is quite odd. Why have you had a complete reversal in religious views?
Could it be you are a... gasp... t...r...o...l...l?
I was having a debate with my friend on the nature of homosexuality.
I said that it was probably a natural thing, but still a sin. He proposes that homosexuality can be cured through thinking rationally.
For instance: One assumes that they are a male or female. They see that males mate with females and so on. They conclude it is the natural order. Therefore they must become part of that natural order.
[QUOTE="Rich3232"]Also, even if homosexuality can be "cured", why the fvck does that matter? How does anyone's sexual orientation make a damn difference on your life? Mithrandir50because the bible and stuff bro. I wonder if gaybashers realize that the shrimp they just ate makes them equivalents to gays, according to the bible. And if they have any tattoos, that's just as bad as being gay, according to the bible. And not everybody who doesn't care about or for gay agenda is even biblical. I personally wouldn't care if only it hasn't plagued our media the way it has. Its almost like its "cool" to be gay these days. Its almost as bad as the wannabe gangsta fashion trend from the early 90's. the real funny thing is, I know quite a few now "straight" females who have had at least one lesbian experience. I think we have MTV, reality television and the Porn industry to blame for that one. Even in television shows. They seem to have to push at least one gay character. Its especially apparent on HBO and Showtime. Game of Thrones included.
the sin is someone saying who they can and cannot love, the irrationality is saying to live this way because some old book tells me solamprey263Well said.
the sin is someone saying who they can and cannot love, the irrationality is saying to live this way because some old book tells me solamprey263Don't go throwing Christians under the bus!!! Not all of us are intolerant, fire and brimstone verse quoting lunatics. Most of us don't care how others live their lives. The bible tells me it is wrong but I support gay marriage. I'd appreciate it if you didn't stereotype me.
[QUOTE="lamprey263"]the sin is someone saying who they can and cannot love, the irrationality is saying to live this way because some old book tells me soMetalDogGearDon't go throwing Christians under the bus!!! Not all of us are intolerant, fire and brimstone verse quoting lunatics. Most of us don't care how others live their lives. The bible tells me it is wrong but I support gay marriage. I'd appreciate it if you didn't stereotype me. Most people that support gay rights are intolerant of other bigots and Christians. Shameful really.
Even if you apply a rationality it doesn't change the underlying sexuality or predisposition of a person. Does this seriously need pointing out? It should be common-sense to most people based on their own broad life experiences, not something that needs pointing out on a forum.Articuno76Exactly. This is not something that can be rationalised. It can only be beaten out.
'He proposes that homosexuality can be cured through thinking rationally.'
After giving it some rational thought of my own...
[spoiler] He's an idiot.
Just replace the word 'homosexuality' with 'sexual attraction' in that sentence, and there's the reason why.
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[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]the sin is someone saying who they can and cannot love, the irrationality is saying to live this way because some old book tells me soSolidSnake35Don't go throwing Christians under the bus!!! Not all of us are intolerant, fire and brimstone verse quoting lunatics. Most of us don't care how others live their lives. The bible tells me it is wrong but I support gay marriage. I'd appreciate it if you didn't stereotype me. Most people that support gay rights are intolerant of other bigots and Christians. Shameful really.intolerant towards bigots? Are you serious? That's pretty stupid. Next you'll be claiming the law is discriminating against murderers. Most people who support gay rights don't hate Christians. A large portion of them a heavily in favour of religious freedom.
Why does homosexaulity need to be "cured" and what does one's sexuality have to do one's rationality?
I don't think it could be cured however I do believe its a disorder to begin with.Murderstyle75You are dumb as shit
[QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"]This is absurd. It is not a disorder, there is plenty of gay stuff going on in nature... and most importantly there is no reason to follow what the bible says since there is no reason to believe it is written by some sort of. Murderstyle75But now of course disorders never happen in nature. That's only a human trait. Right? I guess if homosexuality is natural, so is beastality since animals also screw other species. Pedophelia would be natural as well. Animals also rape and eat their own young. Sorry if I don't buy into your 21st century politically correct agenda. But just like Christianity, homosexuals shove off everything that's not part of their own agenda like its the only thing that means something. . Because homosexuality and pedophila are the same thing, amirite?
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="BenedictArnold7"]This is absurd. It is not a disorder, there is plenty of gay stuff going on in nature... and most importantly there is no reason to follow what the bible says since there is no reason to believe it is written by some sort of. Ninja-HippoBut now of course disorders never happen in nature. That's only a human trait. Right? I guess if homosexuality is natural, so is beastality since animals also screw other species. Pedophelia would be natural as well. Animals also rape and eat their own young. Sorry if I don't buy into your 21st century politically correct agenda. But just like Christianity, homosexuals shove off everything that's not part of their own agenda like its the only thing that means something. . Because homosexuality and pedophila are the same thing, amirite? Will if people want to try and use the nature arguement, they are in every way except for a human moral standpoint.
You obviously are not aware of rational homosexuality.I was having a debate with my friend on the nature of homosexuality.
I said that it was probably a natural thing, but still a sin. He proposes that homosexuality can be cured through thinking rationally.
For instance: One assumes that they are a male or female. They see that males mate with females and so on. They conclude it is the natural order. Therefore they must become part of that natural order.
MetalDogGear
You have made probably one of the worst threads in history.I was having a debate with my friend on the nature of homosexuality.
I said that it was probably a natural thing, but still a sin. He proposes that homosexuality can be cured through thinking rationally.
For instance: One assumes that they are a male or female. They see that males mate with females and so on. They conclude it is the natural order. Therefore they must become part of that natural order.
MetalDogGear
Also, even if homosexuality can be "cured", why the fvck does that matter? How does anyone's sexual orientation make a damn difference on your life? Rich3232because the bible and stuff bro. I wonder if gaybashers realize that the shrimp they just ate makes them equivalents to gays, according to the bible. And if they have any tattoos, that's just as bad as being gay, according to the bible.
[QUOTE="Rich3232"]Also, even if homosexuality can be "cured", why the fvck does that matter? How does anyone's sexual orientation make a damn difference on your life? Mithrandir50because the bible and stuff bro. I wonder if gaybashers realize that the shrimp they just ate makes them equivalents to gays, according to the bible. And if they have any tattoos, that's just as bad as being gay, according to the bible. Good thing they're starting to become the minority.
I have changed my ways I am no longer an atheist or "Bright" I am a born again christianHey MetalDog, care to comment on these threads?
These are yours, btw, if you can't remember.
Do we still need religion?
Kind of a weird thing to say, for a supposed Christian, as you claim now...
but there is more...
I just can't find a reason to believe in God.
I must say this is quite odd. Why have you had a complete reversal in religious views?
Could it be you are a... gasp... t...r...o...l...l?
Mithrandir50
[QUOTE="Mithrandir50"][QUOTE="Rich3232"]Also, even if homosexuality can be "cured", why the fvck does that matter? How does anyone's sexual orientation make a damn difference on your life? Murderstyle75because the bible and stuff bro. I wonder if gaybashers realize that the shrimp they just ate makes them equivalents to gays, according to the bible. And if they have any tattoos, that's just as bad as being gay, according to the bible. And not everybody who doesn't care about or for gay agenda is even biblical. I personally wouldn't care if only it hasn't plagued our media the way it has. Its almost like its "cool" to be gay these days. Its almost as bad as the wannabe gangsta fashion trend from the early 90's. the real funny thing is, I know quite a few now "straight" females who have had at least one lesbian experience. I think we have MTV, reality television and the Porn industry to blame for that one. Even in television shows. They seem to have to push at least one gay character. Its especially apparent on HBO and Showtime. Game of Thrones included. I know right? How dare those gays try to express themselves like human beings. It's almost as bad as that whole civil rights thing.
[QUOTE="Mithrandir50"][QUOTE="Rich3232"]Also, even if homosexuality can be "cured", why the fvck does that matter? How does anyone's sexual orientation make a damn difference on your life? Murderstyle75because the bible and stuff bro. I wonder if gaybashers realize that the shrimp they just ate makes them equivalents to gays, according to the bible. And if they have any tattoos, that's just as bad as being gay, according to the bible. And not everybody who doesn't care about or for gay agenda is even biblical. I personally wouldn't care if only it hasn't plagued our media the way it has. Its almost like its "cool" to be gay these days. Its almost as bad as the wannabe gangsta fashion trend from the early 90's. the real funny thing is, I know quite a few now "straight" females who have had at least one lesbian experience. I think we have MTV, reality television and the Porn industry to blame for that one. Even in television shows. They seem to have to push at least one gay character. Its especially apparent on HBO and Showtime. Game of Thrones included.
:roll: Oh noes.. They have a gay character on a show with a caste of dozens of characters, it's the gay agenda! I am more concerned with the Prostitute agenda my self, you see how many prostitutes are in these shows?
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