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#51 Palantas
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Not just one weapon; tens of thousands.
The world's nuclear arsenal, if deployed all at once, has the capability to destroy the planet several times over.

scorch-62

Can you post your calculations for review, please? I mean, this isn't just a guess on your part, right?

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#52 cheesyjon
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lol, no. We'd get sizzled.

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#53 MushroomWig
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lol, no. We'd get sizzled.

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What are you talking about? We have Chuck Norris. :)
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#54 Big_Bad_Sad
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[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]

lol, no. We'd get sizzled.

MushroomWig
What are you talking about? We have Chuck Norris. :)

Exactly. We'd get sizzled.
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#55 cheesyjon
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="cheesyjon"]

lol, no. We'd get sizzled.

Big_Bad_Sad

What are you talking about? We have Chuck Norris. :)

Exactly. We'd get sizzled.

Nice ones. :P

I think some people could hide out, though, so there would be survivors.

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#56 Palantas
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]

Not just one weapon; tens of thousands.
The world's nuclear arsenal, if deployed all at once, has the capability to destroy the planet several times over.

I

Can you post your calculations for review, please? I mean, this isn't just a guess on your part, right?

Here, I'll try mine. My specialty is in small unit tactics, not physics, so I may be wrong, but this seems like a simple way to compare the numbers:

Total estimated number of nuclear weapons in all nuclear arsenals: 21,844

(Reference: http://www.cdi.org/nuclear/database/nukestab.html)

Now, half of these are tactical nukes. However, to be incredibly, incredibly generous, we'll assume that all 21,844 of these weapons will produce a yield similar to the Tsar Bomba explosion, the largest thermonuclear weapon ever detonated. This comes out to an easy 50 megatons.

So, 21844 * 50E6 = 1.092E12 tons of TNT

1 ton of TNT = 4.184E9 joules

So, 1.092E12 * 4.184E9 = 4.570E21 joules of energy in our wildly inflated estimate of the world's nuclear arsenal

Gravitational binding energy of the Earth: 2.24E32 joules

(Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_binding_energy)

So, unless I ****ed something up here, the world's nukes are about 10 orders of magnitude insufficient to blow the planet apart.

EDIT: Typo.

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#57 deactivated-5e376fa88bd45
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We'll just nuke ourselves into Winter and show those aliens who's who!SeraphimGoddess

If they have the capacity to travel at faster then light speeds then they have the capacity to bombard us from orbit with Faster then light projectiles. THey'll likely be hitting us fast and first from orbit before several nukes can even land on designated targets.

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#58 Ninja-Hippo
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Halo has taught me that we absolutely suck at defending earth. :P
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#59 jeremiah06
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If the aliens had the technology to get to our planet, i would highly doubt it. The nearest star is 4 light years away.

afflictatrophy
Thats what I was going to say. If they have the tech to actually make it to our planet we're doomed(if the attack).
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#60 gamedude2020
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If we imagine the universe as a baron wasteland were very little survives, and planet earth as one of the few sources of water, which another, more advanced race is floating around trying to find - humans shouldn't be shouting out /advertising our location to everyone

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#61 Ninja-Hippo
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If we imagine the universe as a baron wasteland were very little survives, and planet earth as one of the few sources of water, which another, more advanced race is floating around trying to find - humans shouldn't be shouting out /advertising our location to everyone

gamedude2020
That's assuming that life exists in the same way that ours does. On some other far away planet life could have evolved in an environment totally different to ours. Like aliens which breath methane, find water toxic and live somewhere where it's always 300 degrees. :o
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#62 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="gamedude2020"]

If we imagine the universe as a baron wasteland were very little survives, and planet earth as one of the few sources of water, which another, more advanced race is floating around trying to find - humans shouldn't be shouting out /advertising our location to everyone

Ninja-Hippo
That's assuming that life exists in the same way that ours does. On some other far away planet life could have evolved in an environment totally different to ours. Like aliens which breath methane, find water toxic and live somewhere where it's always 300 degrees. :o

Exactly, it annoys me when people say things like "Oh I doubt life exists elsewhere because I don't think there are too many Earth like planets" hang on, there are lifeforms on earth which live deep below the ocean, a place we could never exist, of course there are planets out there that would be perfect for other lifeforms instead of us.
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#63 wstfld
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If they can make it all the way out here from across the galaxy, I assume they could whoop our butts. But they could possibly be a race of nerds and we could scare them away with some nukes.
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#64 gamedude2020
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="gamedude2020"]

If we imagine the universe as a baron wasteland were very little survives, and planet earth as one of the few sources of water, which another, more advanced race is floating around trying to find - humans shouldn't be shouting out /advertising our location to everyone

MushroomWig

That's assuming that life exists in the same way that ours does. On some other far away planet life could have evolved in an environment totally different to ours. Like aliens which breath methane, find water toxic and live somewhere where it's always 300 degrees. :o

Exactly, it annoys me when people say things like "Oh I doubt life exists elsewhere because I don't think there are too many Earth like planets" hang on, there are lifeforms on earth which live deep below the ocean, a place we could never exist, of course there are planets out there that would be perfect for other lifeforms instead of us.

That's assuming sentient life doesn't follow a set pattern of rules to exist.... if life came to this planet from an asteroid, then it probably evolves ina similarway around the galaxy

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#65 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="afflictatrophy"]

If the aliens had the technology to get to our planet, i would highly doubt it. The nearest star is 4 light years away.

JasonDarksavior

Thats a worrying thought. :(

4 lightyears away is massive.. Something going the speed of light will take 4 years to get to here.. FURTHERMORE, the energy it would take to go to that speeds are astronomical.. To accelerate something likea bowling ball any where near those speed, it would take the energy the earth produces for an entire week.. And at those speeds something the size of the marble will hit the craft with the force of a small nuclear explosion.

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#66 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]

[QUOTE="afflictatrophy"]

If the aliens had the technology to get to our planet, i would highly doubt it. The nearest star is 4 light years away.

sSubZerOo

Thats a worrying thought. :(

4 lightyears away is massive.. Something going the speed of light will take 4 years to get to here.. FURTHERMORE, the energy it would take to go to that speeds are astronomical.. To accelerate something likea bowling ball any where near those speed, it would take the energy the earth produces for an entire week.. And at those speeds something the size of the marble will hit the craft with the force of a small nuclear explosion.

Also, there are no planets around that star...
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#67 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"]

Thats a worrying thought. :(

xaos

4 lightyears away is massive.. Something going the speed of light will take 4 years to get to here.. FURTHERMORE, the energy it would take to go to that speeds are astronomical.. To accelerate something likea bowling ball any where near those speed, it would take the energy the earth produces for an entire week.. And at those speeds something the size of the marble will hit the craft with the force of a small nuclear explosion.

Also, there are no planets around that star...

I just find it hilarious that people actually think that ships can travel the speed of light like in the movies.. A speck of dust hitting the hull would destroy the ship.

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#68 MasterKingMP
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If E.T.'s were able to get to Earth than they obviously have much more advanced technology and we wouldn't stand a chance.

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#69 Wolls
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Well we basically dont know jack poop about whats out there, however id imagine if aliens had the tech to travel billions of miles to get to earth, they would probably be able to kick our butts if they wanted.
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#70 thespywholied
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Nuke them..

Then we get PWNED.

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#71 eyebrowless
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it'd be like the Conquistadors of Spain vs the Aztecs. they would have much greater technology and weapons far beyond our capabilities. we'd be massacred. maybe the aliens would spare SOME of us, but certainly not our entire human race
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#72 MushroomWig
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Well we basically dont know jack poop about whats out there, however id imagine if aliens had the tech to travel billions of miles to get to earth, they would probably be able to kick our butts if they wanted.Wolls
B..but teh USA can beat anyone! Usa! Usa! Usa! /sarcasm
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#73 muller39
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it'd be like the Conquistadors of Spain vs the Aztecs. they would have much greater technology and weapons far beyond our capabilities. we'd be massacred. maybe the aliens would spare SOME of us, but certainly not our entire human raceeyebrowless
I agree we wouldn't stand a chance.
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#74 fastesttruck
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Nope and thats why when the Buggers come and find us they are gonna kill us.
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#75 Solid_Tango
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Sure, i mean with all this popullution in the air they ll probably get suffocated
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#76 MushroomWig
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Guys, we wouldn't need to defend Earth, the aliens will only liberate us like how America liberated Iraq. =p

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#77 ArmoredAshes
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Depends on how advanced the alien technology is. IMO however, the biggest problem wouldn't be the technology, it would be how splintered we are as a race.

TyrantDragon55

I could only hope that atleast in some point of our destruction we could band together to avoid anihilation..but you're right. That would be a major obstacle for us as a race.

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#78 Wolls
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[QUOTE="Wolls"]Well we basically dont know jack poop about whats out there, however id imagine if aliens had the tech to travel billions of miles to get to earth, they would probably be able to kick our butts if they wanted.MushroomWig
B..but teh USA can beat anyone! Usa! Usa! Usa! /sarcasm

Lol blind optimism FTW :P

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#79 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="Wolls"]Well we basically dont know jack poop about whats out there, however id imagine if aliens had the tech to travel billions of miles to get to earth, they would probably be able to kick our butts if they wanted.Wolls

B..but teh USA can beat anyone! Usa! Usa! Usa! /sarcasm

Lol blind optimism FTW :P

I suddenly have images of rednecks with their shotguns trying to shoot alien ships out of the sky. xD

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#80 CHOASXIII
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We have the ultimate weapon right here

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#81 gamingqueen
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I thought this was a "green" topic.

8 pages for a joke topic... things have shuuuuuuuuure changed.

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#82 Morphic
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If a civilization has the technology to actually get here, then we don't stand a chance.

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#83 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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As long as they don't use those suicidal infested terrans on us, we should be ok.

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#84 scorch-62
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Can you post your calculations for review, please? I mean, this isn't just a guess on your part, right?Palantas

I didn't do any calculations. The "blow the world up several times over" thing was just a generally accepted assumption by the people who just like big explosions.

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#85 hiphopballer
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if u see a aliens let say hello

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#86 Desulated
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Probably not.

If they had interstellar fleets capable of surface bombardment they'd annihilate us from orbit and we would have absolutely NO way of taking out their ships in orbit.

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#87 dreamdude
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Depends on how advanced the alien technology is. IMO however, the biggest problem wouldn't be the technology, it would be how splintered we are as a race.

TyrantDragon55

Nations would probably start blaming other nations for bringing the aliens or something like that.

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#88 Bloodseeker23
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Maybe, but were not going down without a fight! :D
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#89 GHlegend77
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Eh, maybe...

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#90 Wings_008
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if they mastered Faster than light travel, then we have no defence against them whatsoever, however maybe aliens are more civilized than us, we should not worry about something not entirely certain as much as i find it exiting, i feel that contact with aliens with in this century won't be good for us
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#91 Wings_008
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.....or we will need commander Shepard to save humanity from certain annihilation
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#92 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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dont worry about it, humanity will destroy itself pretty soon anyways.
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#93 Foxi911
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If alliens got here to earth...Im pretty sure they would be smart to not to resort to violence.I think they would peaceful and probably would want to observe (which sounds horrible) and also if we got into a war with them...and beat them...Im pretty sure there will be more where they came from,waiting to get us.
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#94 Flame_Blade88
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I'm sure there are legions of X-Wings below the Pentagon in case of such events.
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#95 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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Yeah have you ever seen Mars Attack? it would pretty much end up like that :P
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#96 Foxi911
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Yeah have you ever seen Mars Attack? it would pretty much end up like that :PXD4NTESINF3RNOX
Mars attack could be a good thought of how it would be....but they attack for no reason....and they were from Mars.
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#97 Gunslinger_1988
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If an alien race were to attack us then God would crush them with his magical powers.
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#98 eagle63
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we would be toast.and it would probley go like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5cKkzclKP0

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#99 ThePlothole
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Probably not.

If they had interstellar fleets capable of surface bombardment they'd annihilate us from orbit and we would have absolutely NO way of taking out their ships in orbit.

Desulated

Bombardment? Heh, why waste the ammunition? Just divert a sufficient size asteroid. You would never even see their ships!

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#100 auron_16
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e biggest problem wouldn't be the technology, it would be how splintered we are as a race.

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Very true. I have to agree.