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#51 WhiteKnight77
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Dan Cathy is not the owner of Chick-fil-A.

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Whatever,the principal stays the same Only difference now is he should be fired for his comments

Why would the owner fire his son? Truett Cathy is the owner and CEO, he has founded his companies on his religious beliefs. While his son's beliefs might be similar to his, the owner hasn't professed his opinion either way. Chick-fil-A is a private company and doesn't have to answer to shareholders or anyone else. Firing Dan Cathy wouldn't help or hurt CFA either way.

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"No comment." Hmm... religiously owned and operated company, closed on Sundays... Religions usually are not in support of gay marriage... If someone is, they simply would answer "Yes." "No comment" usually means, "I do not support gay marriage." Not that hard to figure out. I actually respect Cathy, because even though he knew the backlash he was going to receive for his comment, he still used his right to express his belief. Takes guts to be able to say what you want and not have to worry about what people are going to say back. Now people are spending their energy trying to shut down Chick-Fil-A when in all actuality, the attention has actually driven their business UP. I guess you could even say it was a smart PR move... JustPlainLucas
Or he couldve just said "Im not in the position to be providing comments on a subject such as these" And he couldve thrown in that "only god or jesus is" to make christians happy
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#53 champion837
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Or he couldve just said "Im not in the position to be providing comments on a subject such as these"

His obligation is God, so he is in a position.
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#54 TwoFace-BS
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Dan Cathy is not the owner of Chick-fil-A.

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Whatever,the principal stays the same Only difference now is he should be fired for his comments

Why would the owner fire his son? Truett Cathy is the owner and CEO, he has founded his companies on his religious beliefs. While his son's beliefs might be similar to his, the owner hasn't professed his opinion either way. Chick-fil-A is a private company and doesn't have to answer to shareholders or anyone else. Firing Dan Cathy wouldn't help or hurt CFA either way.

Ok seriously,you are just being pedantic with who Dan Cathy is And second,Do you ever wonder why the owner hasnt shared his opinion? Thirdly,any private company has to answer to a lot of people,its customers And firing (or even suspending) Dan Cathy would restored face for the company and seen ended this bad PR,and before you say any publicity is good publicity.That doesnt apply to prejudice
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"Pseudo-mating occurs most frequently between highranking males and low-ranking males, who are pursued and trodden (Guhl, 1949) and indicates that dominance relationships are important. The same situation may occur in flocks of hens."

http://animalbehaviour.net/JudithKBlackshaw/Chapter3f.htm


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seriously, how fun is the world to live in now? christians turned out in droves to stuff gay chickens down their throats.



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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Or he couldve just said "Im not in the position to be providing comments on a subject such as these"

His obligation is God, so he is in a position.

Thats doesnt even make sense You are either a very bad troll or really REALLY stupid
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#57 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]Whatever,the principal stays the same Only difference now is he should be fired for his commentsTwoFace-BS

Why would the owner fire his son? Truett Cathy is the owner and CEO, he has founded his companies on his religious beliefs. While his son's beliefs might be similar to his, the owner hasn't professed his opinion either way. Chick-fil-A is a private company and doesn't have to answer to shareholders or anyone else. Firing Dan Cathy wouldn't help or hurt CFA either way.

Ok seriously,you are just being pedantic with who Dan Cathy is And second,Do you ever wonder why the owner hasnt shared his opinion? Thirdly,any private company has to answer to a lot of people,its customers And firing (or even suspending) Dan Cathy would restored face for the company and seen ended this bad PR,and before you say any publicity is good publicity.That doesnt apply to prejudice

I don't care if Truett Cathy shares his opnion on gay marriage or not. It will not keep me from eating at CFA just like Dan's will not. I respect their right to say what they want and run their company how they want, even if it means I have to go without a chicken sandwich on Sunday. There are a lot of people who agree with the Cathy's and how they run their company and it showed even more this week as record sales were made, even with stores being protested on Friday. That should tell you what their customers think.

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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Whatever,the principal stays the same Only difference now is he should be fired for his commentsTwoFace-BS

Why would the owner fire his son? Truett Cathy is the owner and CEO, he has founded his companies on his religious beliefs. While his son's beliefs might be similar to his, the owner hasn't professed his opinion either way. Chick-fil-A is a private company and doesn't have to answer to shareholders or anyone else. Firing Dan Cathy wouldn't help or hurt CFA either way.

Ok seriously,you are just being pedantic with who Dan Cathy is And second,Do you ever wonder why the owner hasnt shared his opinion? Thirdly,any private company has to answer to a lot of people,its customers And firing (or even suspending) Dan Cathy would restored face for the company and seen ended this bad PR,and before you say any publicity is good publicity.That doesnt apply to prejudice

I don't think it was bad PR, it is more like neutral PR. Most people are not gonna stop eating chicken at Chick Fil A just because Chick Fil A doesn't support gay marriage.

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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"][QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Or he couldve just said "Im not in the position to be providing comments on a subject such as these"

His obligation is God, so he is in a position.

Thats doesnt even make sense You are either a very bad troll or really REALLY stupid

It makes plenty of sense. God is the person who he worships, so he has an obligation to him. So taking a stance is more important in this world than maximizing profits for a business.
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Why would the owner fire his son? Truett Cathy is the owner and CEO, he has founded his companies on his religious beliefs. While his son's beliefs might be similar to his, the owner hasn't professed his opinion either way. Chick-fil-A is a private company and doesn't have to answer to shareholders or anyone else. Firing Dan Cathy wouldn't help or hurt CFA either way.

WhiteKnight77

Ok seriously,you are just being pedantic with who Dan Cathy is And second,Do you ever wonder why the owner hasnt shared his opinion? Thirdly,any private company has to answer to a lot of people,its customers And firing (or even suspending) Dan Cathy would restored face for the company and seen ended this bad PR,and before you say any publicity is good publicity.That doesnt apply to prejudice

I don't care if Truett Cathy shares his opnion on gay marriage or not. It will not keep me from eating at CFA just like Dan's will not. I respect their right to say what they want and run their company how they want, even if it means I have to go without a chicken sandwich on Sunday. There are a lot of people who agree with the Cathy's and how they run their company and it showed even more this week as record sales were made, even with stores being protested on Friday. That should tell you what their customers think.

Well then you missed the point there,since my point was he hasnt said anything yet because its a stupid thing to do in terms of his company.They can run there business how they want,that doesnt change my point.And as for the record sales,they wont last,they'll fade and previous consumers they had wont come back and their reputation will always be tarnished as long as Dan Cathy is their And you know what,I think you agree with what he said,and because of that,are too blind to understand my points. Yes theyre christian - I Dont care Yes hes against gays - I Dont agree with him but it doesnt matter But it was still a stupid thing to do in terms of the company
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#61 TwoFace-BS
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"][QUOTE="champion837"] His obligation is God, so he is in a position.

Thats doesnt even make sense You are either a very bad troll or really REALLY stupid

It makes plenty of sense. God is the person who he worships, so he has an obligation to him. So taking a stance is more important in this world than maximizing profits for a business.

Why?
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I wan samerch tew!
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I don't think his business should be shut down or anything. But if he thinks he can control other peoples rights and stop them marrying, why can't we control his right to own a business?

Why do all these idiots defending this scumbag skip over the part where he was actively trying to prevent gay people from getting equal rights? It's not just him having an opinion, it's him forcing that opinion on everyone else.

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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"][QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"] Thats doesnt even make sense You are either a very bad troll or really REALLY stupid

It makes plenty of sense. God is the person who he worships, so he has an obligation to him. So taking a stance is more important in this world than maximizing profits for a business.

Why?

Because God cares more about what you stand for, not about how much money you have made.
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Which one in Kansas?! Please be the one in Overland Park! MistressMinako
The one in Wichita. Why, do you wanna go and pretend to protest in order to get a free sangwich and drank?

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I don't think his business should be shut down or anything. But if he thinks he can control other peoples rights and stop them marrying, why can't we control his right to own a business?

Why do all these idiots defending this scumbag skip over the part where he was actively trying to prevent gay people from getting equal rights? It's not just him having an opinion, it's him forcing that opinion on everyone else.

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Not really. Its like when people vote no on the issue of gay marriage. He shouldnt be barred from talking just because he is more famous.
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] Why should he say "no comment", he should've just been honest. And I don't think he funded "anti-gay" groups, I think he mostly funded Christian groups, some of which do lobby for traditional marriage as some of their activities, but I don't think he funded groups specifically dedicated to going after gay people.

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Because the things a person says has a positive or negative effect. Also, it was none of our business anyway. People keep thinking that saying what you believe in and everyone is going to be all sunshine and roses about it which that isn't always the case. I don't know the whole story about the anti gay groups so I wouldn't claim he did or not that's just what I heard. Now, he is probably getting tons of backlash for it... that's why I said he should have kept his mouth shut.

I don't think he harmed his business by saying his views, sure he may have turned away some pro gay-marriage customers but he also probably attracted support from pro traditional marriage people.

I don't think he harmed the company as people will eat there regardless but he is going to get either a lot of love or hate after this... most likely more hate. He better be glad this got some revenue from all of this a lot of companies would fire him for this because it makes the company look bad.
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"] Because the things a person says has a positive or negative effect. Also, it was none of our business anyway. People keep thinking that saying what you believe in and everyone is going to be all sunshine and roses about it which that isn't always the case. I don't know the whole story about the anti gay groups so I wouldn't claim he did or not that's just what I heard. Now, he is probably getting tons of backlash for it... that's why I said he should have kept his mouth shut.MistressMinako

I don't think he harmed his business by saying his views, sure he may have turned away some pro gay-marriage customers but he also probably attracted support from pro traditional marriage people.

I don't think he harmed the company as people will eat there regardless but he is going to get either a lot of love or hate after this... most likely more hate. He better be glad this got some revenue from all of this a lot of companies would fire him for this because it makes the company look bad.

It doesn't make the company look bad, maybe to some people, but not to most people.

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I don't think his business should be shut down or anything. But if he thinks he can control other peoples rights and stop them marrying, why can't we control his right to own a business?

Why do all these idiots defending this scumbag skip over the part where he was actively trying to prevent gay people from getting equal rights? It's not just him having an opinion, it's him forcing that opinion on everyone else.

champion837

Not really. Its like when people vote no on the issue of gay marriage. He shouldnt be barred from talking just because he is more famous.

And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

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Doesn't really mean anything since it wasn't a company wide policy movement, it was an individual store decision. In any case, I wish I had gotten some free chicken, but my friend found the recipe online, so I have no real need for Chick-Fil-A anymore anyway.

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also.

there is a huge chance some of those chickens are gay.

1,500 animal species practice homosexuality

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

is he taking any steps to ensure no patrons are served a gay chicken???

hmmmmmm.

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And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

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Because people have their reasons, just as with every single political issue. If I do'nt like something, regardless of my reason, I should vote no for it. I don't want to see it come to pass. That's the whole GROUNDS of democracy, to let the people CHOOSE what they want to see in their own country. By your logic, we should just vote yes on every issue.
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"Pseudo-mating occurs most frequently between highranking males and low-ranking males, who are pursued and trodden (Guhl, 1949) and indicates that dominance relationships are important. The same situation may occur in flocks of hens."

http://animalbehaviour.net/JudithKBlackshaw/Chapter3f.htm


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seriously, how fun is the world to live in now? christians turned out in droves to stuff gay chickens down their throats.



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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="champion837"] Not really. Its like when people vote no on the issue of gay marriage. He shouldnt be barred from talking just because he is more famous.champion837

And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

Sure it is. Not everything that is considered a sin by people affects the person themselves.

So if i thought black people are sub-human and created by god to serve me. it would be ok for me to try and pass a law to re-legalise slavery?

If I think women are to stupid to understand politics, it would be fine for me to try to take away their right to vote?

If your religion says gays are bad, ok then thats your religion. But you have no right to impose that religion on anyone else, how should we stop selling pork and alcohol because some religions don't allow them? Should we start executing pagans?

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

JustPlainLucas

Because people have their reasons, just as with every single political issue. If I do'nt like something, regardless of my reason, I should vote no for it. I don't want to see it come to pass. That's the whole GROUNDS of democracy, to let the people CHOOSE what they want to see in their own country. By your logic, we should just vote yes on every issue.

Democracy assumes that every voter is educated, hence the reason the U.S. isn't a democracy.

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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

TacticalDesire

Because people have their reasons, just as with every single political issue. If I do'nt like something, regardless of my reason, I should vote no for it. I don't want to see it come to pass. That's the whole GROUNDS of democracy, to let the people CHOOSE what they want to see in their own country. By your logic, we should just vote yes on every issue.

Democracy assumes that every voter is educated, hence the reason the U.S. isn't a democracy.

This, you should only vote if you understand the issue, not because you have a gut feeling that it's bad.

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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

TacticalDesire

Because people have their reasons, just as with every single political issue. If I do'nt like something, regardless of my reason, I should vote no for it. I don't want to see it come to pass. That's the whole GROUNDS of democracy, to let the people CHOOSE what they want to see in their own country. By your logic, we should just vote yes on every issue.

Democracy assumes that every voter is educated.

Does it?

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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"] Because people have their reasons, just as with every single political issue. If I do'nt like something, regardless of my reason, I should vote no for it. I don't want to see it come to pass. That's the whole GROUNDS of democracy, to let the people CHOOSE what they want to see in their own country. By your logic, we should just vote yes on every issue.whipassmt

Democracy assumes that every voter is educated.

Does it?

Well, that's the reason throughout history many philsophers (one of the most famous being Plato), for whatever it's worth, have said a democracy will never really work.

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

And what is the excuse to vote no on it? Just because you don't like something is no reason to make it illegal.

toast_burner

Sure it is. Not everything that is considered a sin by people affects the person themselves.

So if i thought black people are sub-human and created by god to serve me. it would be ok for me to try and pass a law to re-legalise slavery?

If I think women are to stupid to understand politics, it would be fine for me to try to take away their right to vote?

If your religion says gays are bad, ok then thats your religion. But you have no right to impose that religion on anyone else

Not the same thing. And the Bible doesnt promote those things (blacks sub human, women are stupid), neither do any of the main religions, so that isnt anything that we would have to realistically deal with. And since they are Christians like me, then yes they should take a stance for many things. They have an obligation to God, more than anything, a person who they (and I) believe is a person who created everything, and is over everyone. We get what is just from the Lord (who made everything), this is his world, and he is the rule of law, not something that we think may or may not be ok, and then we change our mind once we think it isnt, and then that might not be the "right" thing that we think, and so on etc.

And since we believe this, you shouldnt bring up "what about other religions", since we dont believe in the gods of other religions anyway. That doesnt mean that we are evil, or despise or want to cause any sort of hatred towards other religions just so you know. And dont be surprised that I say this, this is what the Bible discusses.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="champion837"] Sure it is. Not everything that is considered a sin by people affects the person themselves.champion837

So if i thought black people are sub-human and created by god to serve me. it would be ok for me to try and pass a law to re-legalise slavery?

If I think women are to stupid to understand politics, it would be fine for me to try to take away their right to vote?

If your religion says gays are bad, ok then thats your religion. But you have no right to impose that religion on anyone else

Not the same thing. And the Bible doesnt promote those things (blacks sub human, women are stupid), neither do any of the main religions, so that isnt anything that we would have to realistically deal with. And since they are Christians like me, then yes they should take a stance for those things. They have an obligation to God, more than anything, a person who they (and I) believe is a person who created everything, and is over everyone. We get what is just from the Lord (who made everything), this is his world, and he is the rule of law, not something that we think may or may not be ok, and then we change our mind once we think it isnt, and then that might not be the "right" thing that we think, and so on etc. And since we believe this, you shouldnt bring up "what about other religions", since we dont believe in the gods of other religions anyway. That doesnt mean that we are evil, or despise or want to cause any sort of hatred towards other religions just so you know. And dont be surprised that I say this, this is what the Bible discusses.

So if my religion says Christians are evil, you'd have no objection to me trying to pass a law banning Christianity? If your answer is anything other than "thats perfectly cool" then you are a massive hypocrite.

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So if i thought black people are sub-human and created by god to serve me. it would be ok for me to try and pass a law to re-legalise slavery?

If I think women are to stupid to understand politics, it would be fine for me to try to take away their right to vote?

If your religion says gays are bad, ok then thats your religion. But you have no right to impose that religion on anyone elsetoast_burner

Not the same thing. And the Bible doesnt promote those things (blacks sub human, women are stupid), neither do any of the main religions, so that isnt anything that we would have to realistically deal with. And since they are Christians like me, then yes they should take a stance for those things. They have an obligation to God, more than anything, a person who they (and I) believe is a person who created everything, and is over everyone. We get what is just from the Lord (who made everything), this is his world, and he is the rule of law, not something that we think may or may not be ok, and then we change our mind once we think it isnt, and then that might not be the "right" thing that we think, and so on etc. And since we believe this, you shouldnt bring up "what about other religions", since we dont believe in the gods of other religions anyway. That doesnt mean that we are evil, or despise or want to cause any sort of hatred towards other religions just so you know. And dont be surprised that I say this, this is what the Bible discusses.

So if my religion says Christians are evil, you'd have no objection to me trying to pass a law banning Christianity? If your answer is anything other than "thats perfectly cool" then you are a massive hypocrite.

Let me go over this, because that is something that many people (and surprisingly even some Christians) say.

We believe that our God is the one true God. I wouldnt be ok with anything that my God would be against, so no matter what religion there is, if they object to God, then surely I would oppose it. So if a religion says that Christians are evil, then it contradicts what I know is true by what the Lord says. That isnt being hypocritical, that is basically being consistent. I was against gay marriage, because it goes against what I know about the Bible, so I would be against people who say that all Christians are evil. And just because it is a religion, I would still oppose, just like if someone wouldnt even call it a religion, because it is still wrong from my point of view.

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So if i thought black people are sub-human and created by god to serve me. it would be ok for me to try and pass a law to re-legalise slavery?

If I think women are to stupid to understand politics, it would be fine for me to try to take away their right to vote?

If your religion says gays are bad, ok then thats your religion. But you have no right to impose that religion on anyone elsetoast_burner

Not the same thing. And the Bible doesnt promote those things (blacks sub human, women are stupid), neither do any of the main religions, so that isnt anything that we would have to realistically deal with. And since they are Christians like me, then yes they should take a stance for those things. They have an obligation to God, more than anything, a person who they (and I) believe is a person who created everything, and is over everyone. We get what is just from the Lord (who made everything), this is his world, and he is the rule of law, not something that we think may or may not be ok, and then we change our mind once we think it isnt, and then that might not be the "right" thing that we think, and so on etc. And since we believe this, you shouldnt bring up "what about other religions", since we dont believe in the gods of other religions anyway. That doesnt mean that we are evil, or despise or want to cause any sort of hatred towards other religions just so you know. And dont be surprised that I say this, this is what the Bible discusses.

So if my religion says Christians are evil, you'd have no objection to me trying to pass a law banning Christianity? If your answer is anything other than "thats perfectly cool" then you are a massive hypocrite.

Chick Fil A isn't trying to ban homosexuality.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="champion837"] Not the same thing. And the Bible doesnt promote those things (blacks sub human, women are stupid), neither do any of the main religions, so that isnt anything that we would have to realistically deal with. And since they are Christians like me, then yes they should take a stance for those things. They have an obligation to God, more than anything, a person who they (and I) believe is a person who created everything, and is over everyone. We get what is just from the Lord (who made everything), this is his world, and he is the rule of law, not something that we think may or may not be ok, and then we change our mind once we think it isnt, and then that might not be the "right" thing that we think, and so on etc. And since we believe this, you shouldnt bring up "what about other religions", since we dont believe in the gods of other religions anyway. That doesnt mean that we are evil, or despise or want to cause any sort of hatred towards other religions just so you know. And dont be surprised that I say this, this is what the Bible discusses.

champion837

So if my religion says Christians are evil, you'd have no objection to me trying to pass a law banning Christianity? If your answer is anything other than "thats perfectly cool" then you are a massive hypocrite.

Let me go over this, because that is something that many people (and surprisingly even some Christians) say.

We believe that our God is the one true God. I wouldnt be ok with anything that my God would be against, so no matter what religion there is, if they object to God, then surely I would oppose it. So if a religion says that Christians are evil, then it contradicts what I know is true by what the Lord says. That isnt being hypocritical, that is basically being consistent. I was against gay marriage, because it goes against what I know about the Bible, so I would be against people who say that all Christians are evil. And just because it is a religion, I would still oppose, just like if someone wouldnt even call it a religion, because it is still wrong from my point of view.

So you're saying you're better than everybody else and what they think doesn't matter?

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Will people ever stop caring about this crap?

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#86 champion837
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[QUOTE="champion837"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]So if my religion says Christians are evil, you'd have no objection to me trying to pass a law banning Christianity? If your answer is anything other than "thats perfectly cool" then you are a massive hypocrite.

toast_burner

Let me go over this, because that is something that many people (and surprisingly even some Christians) say.

We believe that our God is the one true God. I wouldnt be ok with anything that my God would be against, so no matter what religion there is, if they object to God, then surely I would oppose it. So if a religion says that Christians are evil, then it contradicts what I know is true by what the Lord says. That isnt being hypocritical, that is basically being consistent. I was against gay marriage, because it goes against what I know about the Bible, so I would be against people who say that all Christians are evil. And just because it is a religion, I would still oppose, just like if someone wouldnt even call it a religion, because it is still wrong from my point of view.

So you're saying you're better than everybody else and what they think doesn't matter?

I like to hear people's views. That doesnt mean that I would have to agree to every stance that I hear. I am not better than anyone. My disagreements of gay marriage is a stance. You have plenty of stances that you consider moral, that doesnt mean that you think that you are better than anyone else.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="champion837"]

Let me go over this, because that is something that many people (and surprisingly even some Christians) say.

We believe that our God is the one true God. I wouldnt be ok with anything that my God would be against, so no matter what religion there is, if they object to God, then surely I would oppose it. So if a religion says that Christians are evil, then it contradicts what I know is true by what the Lord says. That isnt being hypocritical, that is basically being consistent. I was against gay marriage, because it goes against what I know about the Bible, so I would be against people who say that all Christians are evil. And just because it is a religion, I would still oppose, just like if someone wouldnt even call it a religion, because it is still wrong from my point of view.

champion837

So you're saying you're better than everybody else and what they think doesn't matter?

I like to hear people's views, I am not a dictator or a close minded person. That doesnt mean that I will agree to it. I am not better than anyone. I have already told you that I believe and know to be true that God (the creator of everything) is the one who is the ultimate person that I have a responsibility to. My disagreements of gay marriage is a stance. You have plenty of stances that you consider moral, that doesnt mean that you think that you are better than anyone else.

No one asked you to agree with it. I don't agree with drug abuse yet I'm all in favour of decriminalizing all drugs.

You wouldn't like someone taking away your rights, so why do it to other people, you say because god, but what if they take away your rights to believe in that god/ You have no idea how many atrocities have been committed by people all with the exact same mindset as you.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="champion837"] Not the same thing. And the Bible doesnt promote those things (blacks sub human, women are stupid), neither do any of the main religions, so that isnt anything that we would have to realistically deal with. And since they are Christians like me, then yes they should take a stance for those things. They have an obligation to God, more than anything, a person who they (and I) believe is a person who created everything, and is over everyone. We get what is just from the Lord (who made everything), this is his world, and he is the rule of law, not something that we think may or may not be ok, and then we change our mind once we think it isnt, and then that might not be the "right" thing that we think, and so on etc. And since we believe this, you shouldnt bring up "what about other religions", since we dont believe in the gods of other religions anyway. That doesnt mean that we are evil, or despise or want to cause any sort of hatred towards other religions just so you know. And dont be surprised that I say this, this is what the Bible discusses.

whipassmt

So if my religion says Christians are evil, you'd have no objection to me trying to pass a law banning Christianity? If your answer is anything other than "thats perfectly cool" then you are a massive hypocrite.

Chick Fil A isn't trying to ban homosexuality.

No, they're just donating money to organizations who are trying to deny homosexuals equal rights and attempting to demonize them as well.
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]No one asked you to agree with it. I don't agree with drug abuse yet I'm all in favour of decriminalizing all drugs.

You wouldn't like someone taking away your rights, so why do it to other people, you say because god, but what if they take away your rights to believe in that god/ You have no idea how many atrocities have been committed by people all with the exact same mindset as you.

toast_burner

My mindset isnt the same just because I follow the rules of Bible that others have misrepresented. If that were the case then you can state what you think is right and wrong, and then I would say that Adolf Hitler had a mindset like you because he was an atheist and believed a lot of the things that many atheists did. That is a double standard. Just because you dont believe in a religion, doesnt make you not subject to that. We all follow a moral way of life. The stances that I take arent in void just because others who mightve believed the way I did, did something terrible with them.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] No, they're just donating money to organizations who are trying to deny homosexuals equal rights and attempting to demonize them as well.

Or it could just be Dan Cathy... I wonder if anyone stops to think that a lot of people within the corporation don't agree with what Cathy is allegedly doing...
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] No, they're just donating money to organizations who are trying to deny homosexuals equal rights and attempting to demonize them as well.

Or it could just be Dan Cathy... I wonder if anyone stops to think that a lot of people within the corporation don't agree with what Cathy is allegedly doing...

They may not agree with him, but they all do have an indirect part in helping to repress gay rights.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]]No one asked you to agree with it. I don't agree with drug abuse yet I'm all in favour of decriminalizing all drugs.

You wouldn't like someone taking away your rights, so why do it to other people, you say because god, but what if they take away your rights to believe in that god/ You have no idea how many atrocities have been committed by people all with the exact same mindset as you.

champion837

My mindset isnt the same just because I follow the rules of Bible that others have misrepresented. If that were the case then you can state what you think is right and wrong, and then I would say that Adolf Hitler had a mindset like you because he was an atheist and believed a lot of the things that many atheists did. That is a double standard. Just because you dont believe in a religion, doesnt make you not subject to that. We all follow a moral way of life. The stances that I take arent in void just because others who mightve believed the way I did, did something terrible with them.

Hitler wasn't an atheist, he claimed to be Christian in his own book Mein Kampf. Whether you feel he embodied or exemplified Christianity to your liking isn't really relevant since he claimed Christianity.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] No, they're just donating money to organizations who are trying to deny homosexuals equal rights and attempting to demonize them as well. JustPlainLucas
Or it could just be Dan Cathy... I wonder if anyone stops to think that a lot of people within the corporation don't agree with what Cathy is allegedly doing...

Who are these people who don't agree?

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No doubt those Homophobes put aids in the sandwiches.

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[QUOTE="champion837"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]]No one asked you to agree with it. I don't agree with drug abuse yet I'm all in favour of decriminalizing all drugs.

You wouldn't like someone taking away your rights, so why do it to other people, you say because god, but what if they take away your rights to believe in that god/ You have no idea how many atrocities have been committed by people all with the exact same mindset as you.

TacticalDesire

My mindset isnt the same just because I follow the rules of Bible that others have misrepresented. If that were the case then you can state what you think is right and wrong, and then I would say that Adolf Hitler had a mindset like you because he was an atheist and believed a lot of the things that many atheists did. That is a double standard. Just because you dont believe in a religion, doesnt make you not subject to that. We all follow a moral way of life. The stances that I take arent in void just because others who mightve believed the way I did, did something terrible with them.

Hitler wasn't an atheist, he claimed to be Christian in his own book Mein Kampf. Whether you feel he embodied or exemplified Christianity to your liking isn't really relevant since he claimed Christianity.

He was quoted saying that he used Christianity as a means to control. But regardless, it wasnt the reason why he was a tyrant. The point is that any group can have a tyrant.
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="champion837"]

My mindset isnt the same just because I follow the rules of Bible that others have misrepresented. If that were the case then you can state what you think is right and wrong, and then I would say that Adolf Hitler had a mindset like you because he was an atheist and believed a lot of the things that many atheists did. That is a double standard. Just because you dont believe in a religion, doesnt make you not subject to that. We all follow a moral way of life. The stances that I take arent in void just because others who mightve believed the way I did, did something terrible with them.

champion837

Hitler wasn't an atheist, he claimed to be Christian in his own book Mein Kampf. Whether you feel he embodied or exemplified Christianity to your liking isn't really relevant since he claimed Christianity.

He was quoted saying that he used Christianity as a means to control. But regardless, it wasnt the reason why he was a tyrant. The point is that any group can have a tyrant.

Not going to argue with that last statement.

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This whole thing has gotten so moronic at this point, and I'm not just talking about chick-fil-a.

Do we really have nothing better to do with our lives than spending them making lists of companies that piss us off? I'm talking about people on both sides of the political spectrum here.

The boycotts don't work, any way. No company that currently suports SSM is suddenly going to say "OK guys, we've changed our minds, no to same sex marriage now." And chick fil-a isn't suddenly going to change their mind either.

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Who are these people who don't agree?

TacticalDesire
Can you not for one second imagine that there are people working at Chick-Fil-A who don't agree with Cathy's funding, or are you one of those people who lump everyone who works at the company and customers who still frequent the establishment as bigots?
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Who are these people who don't agree?

JustPlainLucas

Can you not for one second imagine that there are people working at Chick-Fil-A who don't agree with Cathy's funding, or are you one of those people who lump everyone who works at the company and customers who still frequent the establishment as bigots?

Nope, but I would imagine that everyone with a high ranking position in the corporate-side of the company shares more or less the same opinion.

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Nope, but I would imagine that everyone with a high ranking position in the corporate-side of the company shares more or less the same opinion.

TacticalDesire
And how can you be so confident? Do you have their financial records?