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#101 TacticalDesire
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Nope, but I would imagine that everyone with a high ranking position in the corporate-side of the company shares more or less the same opinion.

JustPlainLucas

And how can you be so confident? Do you have their financial records?

Why would I need their financial records?

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#102 JustPlainLucas
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Why would I need their financial records?

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To show that they are or aren't donating to anti-gay organizations, like Cathy is claimed to be. Don't you think that if they were in the position to donate, they would, instead of just agreeing to what Cathy is doing?
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#103 TacticalDesire
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Why would I need their financial records?

JustPlainLucas

To show that they are or aren't donating to anti-gay organizations, like Cathy is claimed to be. Don't you think that if they were in the position to donate, they would, instead of just agreeing to what Cathy is doing?

Maybe, they may prefer to spend their money on other things, then again some of them may very well donate too. I just doubt that any high-ranking member of Chick-Fil-A actually disagrees with what Cathy is doing.

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#104 MistressMinako
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I don't think he harmed his business by saying his views, sure he may have turned away some pro gay-marriage customers but he also probably attracted support from pro traditional marriage people.

whipassmt

I don't think he harmed the company as people will eat there regardless but he is going to get either a lot of love or hate after this... most likely more hate. He better be glad this got some revenue from all of this a lot of companies would fire him for this because it makes the company look bad.

It doesn't make the company look bad, maybe to some people, but not to most people.

It does to some people, of course. Actually, a lot of employees are getting harassed for something he said because some people think that his opinion = everyone who works there thinks the same. It might not be the case but now innocent people are getting hit over this whole thing. I don't know, I guess that's why I couldn't major in business because I care too much about the people who help my business run than myself. There was a story floating on this board about some guy harassing a woman about this and ended up getting fired and that's just one person who knows what else is going on. Personally, I don't care where he stands on gay marriage and I don't know what this other stuff is about with him trying to keep it illegal but I learned that some people are just plain ridiculous and attack at anything and anyone (in this case his employees) in their way so that's why I said keep it hushed because some people will go to employees instead of the person who said it. It's not like the employees can quit with this job market so they just have to deal with it and I feel sorry for these people. It would have been okay if he wasn't connected to any business but hey what's done is done. I think saying you are either for or against gay marriage to get more people to buy your products is horrible I don't need to buy anything to confirm to folks or myself on my stance on things. But strangely enough it works. But to reply to your other comment, I would but Wichita is too far... not that hungry to drive 2+ hours for some free chicken. Not like I could go today anyway. :P
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#105 Teenaged
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Show us where Truett Cathy said anything about gay marriage.

WhiteKnight77

OH OH OH OH... let me guess... if his statement didnt contain the term gay marriage" then it had nothing to do with it.

Goodnight OT. Sleep tight and pat yourselves in the back.

And this is where you show that you haven't really paid attention to what has been posted at least 3 times in other threads.

Honestly, I thought you got the name wrong.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]]No one asked you to agree with it. I don't agree with drug abuse yet I'm all in favour of decriminalizing all drugs.

You wouldn't like someone taking away your rights, so why do it to other people, you say because god, but what if they take away your rights to believe in that god/ You have no idea how many atrocities have been committed by people all with the exact same mindset as you.

champion837

My mindset isnt the same just because I follow the rules of Bible that others have misrepresented. If that were the case then you can state what you think is right and wrong, and then I would say that Adolf Hitler had a mindset like you because he was an atheist and believed a lot of the things that many atheists did. That is a double standard. Just because you dont believe in a religion, doesnt make you not subject to that. We all follow a moral way of life. The stances that I take arent in void just because others who mightve believed the way I did, did something terrible with them.

Hitler was an atheist, but he wasn't really a mamber of any currently existing religion. He was mostly Christina but did not fit into any of the churches so he made his own.

I never mentioned religion, I said you. You are saying that if you don't like something then it is should not be allowed, you are forcing those views on to other people. You are evil.

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The food is horrible from what my friend tells me. There's only 1 in Michigan though. Never going.YoshiYogurt
I liked it, and I am near the one in Michigan.. Its in the food court of Oakland University..
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#108 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

And this is where you show that you haven't really paid attention to what has been posted at least 3 times in other threads.

Teenaged

Honestly, I thought you got the name wrong.

Being that I live in the Atlanta area, where Truett Cathy formed his restaurants and CFA and his other companies make the news regularly here. It would be remiss of me for not knowing the difference between who was who.

OT has a big problem with spouting off without being aware of the facts or knowing the facts and even worse, disregarding or distorting the facts. I just thought you were above that, but maybe I was wrong. I know that you are passionate about how you live and what rights you should have, but that does not exempt you from getting things right.

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#110 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

And this is where you show that you haven't really paid attention to what has been posted at least 3 times in other threads.

WhiteKnight77

Honestly, I thought you got the name wrong.

Being that I live in the Atlanta area, where Truett Cathy formed his restaurants and CFA and his other companies make the news regularly here. It would be remiss of me for not knowing the difference between who was who.

OT has a big problem with spouting off without being aware of the facts or knowing the facts and even worse, disregarding or distorting the facts. I just thought you were above that, but maybe I was wrong. I know that you are passionate about how you live and what rights you should have, but that does not exempt you from getting things right.

Maybe its because I dont live in the USA and dont hear about this as often as you guys must do, in order to know who exactly is the owner, the CEO or whatever.

And I really dont care tbh. Because for me its not so important to stigmatize specifically the one who said it. Its mostly about the mindset itself and I tend to refer vaguely to Chick-Fil-A when talking about this issue exactly because I cant be bothered to know exactly who said it.

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Honestly, there arent any chick-fil-A's anywhere near where I live or even in my part of the country, for that matter. Must be a southern or western chain.

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#112 WhiteKnight77
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Honestly, there arent any chick-fil-A's anywhere near where I live or even in my part of the country, for that matter. Must be a southern or western chain.

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78% of the States have at least one CFA in it.

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Honestly, there arent any chick-fil-A's anywhere near where I live or even in my part of the country, for that matter. Must be a southern or western chain.

WhiteKnight77

78% of the States have at least one CFA in it.

Michigan doesn't even have a full blown one.. They have one in Oakland University's food court, they share with Subway and a few others..
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You are saying that if you don't like something then it is should not be allowed, you are forcing those views on to other people. You are evil.toast_burner

You dont think certain things should be allowed (like everyone else). Does that make you evil?

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While I support same sex marriage, this is overkill. Its the opinion of one man (last I heard, free speech was a given), and doesn't reflect on the company as a whole, while its also a Christian based company that is closed on Sunday so is anyone honestly surprised?

There are worse issues in the world then the thoughts of one guy who happens to own a chicken chain.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]You are saying that if you don't like something then it is should not be allowed, you are forcing those views on to other people. You are evil.champion837
You dont think a ton of things should be allowed (like everyone else). Does that make you evil?

When I say something shouldn't be allowed I think it for reasons other than "I don't like it"

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]You are saying that if you don't like something then it is should not be allowed, you are forcing those views on to other people. You are evil.toast_burner

You dont think a ton of things should be allowed (like everyone else). Does that make you evil?

When I say something shouldn't be allowed I think it for reasons other than "I don't like it"

Me too. I dont say it for the heck of it. I have reasonings like you have reasonings.

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#118 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="champion837"] You dont think a ton of things should be allowed (like everyone else). Does that make you evil?champion837

When I say something shouldn't be allowed I think it for reasons other than "I don't like it"

Me too. I dont say it for the heck of it. I have reasonings like you have reasonings.

Earlier you said religion, which is your own personal belief. You can't force personal beliefs on people

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[QUOTE="champion837"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

When I say something shouldn't be allowed I think it for reasons other than "I don't like it"

toast_burner

Me too. I dont say it for the heck of it. I have reasonings like you have reasonings.

Earlier you said religion, which is your own personal belief. You can't force personal beliefs on people

Thats what you do when you determine what you think is right and wrong. Just because I worship God doesnt mean that you should think that what you believe isnt any less "personal" than what I believe. You have a moral code you determine things by, I do as well. The moral code that you determine what is right and wrong is YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF as well. This isnt different.
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[QUOTE="champion837"]

Me too. I dont say it for the heck of it. I have reasonings like you have reasonings.champion837

Earlier you said religion, which is your own personal belief. You can't force personal beliefs on people

Thats what you do when you determine what you think is right and wrong. Just because I worship God doesnt mean that you should think that what you believe isnt any less "personal" than what I believe. You have a moral code you determine things by, I do as well. The moral code that you determine what is right and wrong is YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF as well. This isnt different.

What am I forcing on you?

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#121 champion837
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Earlier you said religion, which is your own personal belief. You can't force personal beliefs on people

toast_burner

Thats what you do when you determine what you think is right and wrong. Just because I worship God doesnt mean that you should think that what you believe isnt any less "personal" than what I believe. You have a moral code you determine things by, I do as well. The moral code that you determine what is right and wrong is YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF as well. This isnt different.

What am I forcing on you?

Whatever crime you think I shouldnt commit. I cant do those things. This is about what we think is right and wrong. Using words like "forcing on someone" can be applied to any society that has a set rules.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="champion837"] Thats what you do when you determine what you think is right and wrong. Just because I worship God doesnt mean that you should think that what you believe isnt any less "personal" than what I believe. You have a moral code you determine things by, I do as well. The moral code that you determine what is right and wrong is YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF as well. This isnt different.champion837

What am I forcing on you?

Whatever crime you think I shouldnt commit. I cant do those things. This is about what we think is right and wrong. Using words like "forcing on someone" can be applied to any society that has a set rules.

A persons freedom ends when it infringes upon someone elses freedom.

If I steal I am taking something away from it's owner who may not have wanted to let it go. If I kill someone I am ending a life that wasn't mine to end.

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#123 leathaltaco
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its over

chick fil a won

more people showed up on chick fil a day than people showed up on kiss day. which goes to show more people don't want gat marriage than want it. Gay marriage will not be leagalized anytime soon

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#124 champion837
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

What am I forcing on you?

toast_burner

Whatever crime you think I shouldnt commit. I cant do those things. This is about what we think is right and wrong. Using words like "forcing on someone" can be applied to any society that has a set rules.

A persons freedom ends when it infringes upon someone elses freedom.

Prostitution doesnt infringe upon other people's freedom. But yet that is outlawed.

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[QUOTE="champion837"] Whatever crime you think I shouldnt commit. I cant do those things. This is about what we think is right and wrong. Using words like "forcing on someone" can be applied to any society that has a set rules.champion837

A persons freedom ends when it infringes upon someone elses freedom.

Prostitution doesnt infringe upon other people's freedom. But yet that is outlawed.

Well prositution isn't and shouldn't be illegal.

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[QUOTE="champion837"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

A persons freedom ends when it infringes upon someone elses freedom.toast_burner

Prostitution doesnt infringe upon other people's freedom. But yet that is outlawed.

Well prositution isn't and shouldn't be illegal.

Prostitution is illegal. And prostitution is illegal because it promotes something that society doesnt want for people (whether it be for religious purposes, cultural purposes, etc), whether or not the people involved want it.
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[QUOTE="champion837"]

Prostitution doesnt infringe upon other people's freedom. But yet that is outlawed.

champion837

Well prositution isn't and shouldn't be illegal.

Prostitution is illegal. And prostitution is illegal because it promotes something that society doesnt want for people (whether it be for religious purposes, cultural purposes, etc), whether or not the people involved want it.

America is not the whole world.

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#128 mindstorm
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I think it was good of them but I would not actually say that Chick-fil-A is a Christian business. It is founded on Christian principles but this is not the same thing. If it were a Christian business then it would only hire Christians and would seek to evangelize.
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Well prositution isn't and shouldn't be illegal.

toast_burner

Prostitution is illegal. And prostitution is illegal because it promotes something that society doesnt want for people (whether it be for religious purposes, cultural purposes, etc), whether or not the people involved want it.

America is not the whole world.

But still, it is something that many countries have outlawed and it is something that doesnt infringe upon the other person's rights.
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Honestly, there arent any chick-fil-A's anywhere near where I live or even in my part of the country, for that matter. Must be a southern or western chain.

sSubZerOo

78% of the States have at least one CFA in it.

Michigan doesn't even have a full blown one.. They have one in Oakland University's food court, they share with Subway and a few others..

Most CFAs are in food courts at shopping mall's across the country. That does not mean that they do not count as a restaurant. It has only been in the last 15 years or so that stand alone stores have exploded across the US though their first stand alone store opened in the 80s.

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[QUOTE="champion837"] Prostitution is illegal. And prostitution is illegal because it promotes something that society doesnt want for people (whether it be for religious purposes, cultural purposes, etc), whether or not the people involved want it.champion837

America is not the whole world.

But still, it is something that many countries have outlawed and it is something that doesnt infringe upon the other person's rights.

What point are you trying to make? Two wrongs don't make a right, surely they told you that in Sunday school.

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I think it was good of them but I would not actually say that Chick-fil-A is a Christian business. It is founded on Christian principles but this is not the same thing. If it were a Christian business then it would only hire Christians and would seek to evangelize. mindstorm
That isnt necessarily true. A Christian business is about the principles of the group, not the personal beliefs of the people there since Christianity is the belief that is carried by the company. The term is broad.
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#133 champion837
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

America is not the whole world.

toast_burner

But still, it is something that many countries have outlawed and it is something that doesnt infringe upon the other person's rights.

What point are you trying to make? Two wrongs don't make a right, surely they told you that in Sunday school.

The fact is that prostitution is wrong to me, and many others. If you disagree with that then that is another debate.
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#134 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I think it was good of them but I would not actually say that Chick-fil-A is a Christian business. It is founded on Christian principles but this is not the same thing. If it were a Christian business then it would only hire Christians and would seek to evangelize. champion837
That isnt necessarily true. A Christian business is about the principles of the group, not the personal beliefs of the people there since Christianity is the belief that is carried by the company. The term is broad.

While this is very much true, I am largely just extrapolating a point that Chick-fil-A's president has made separating the two. A lot of it is just a debate of semantics.
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[QUOTE="champion837"] But still, it is something that many countries have outlawed and it is something that doesnt infringe upon the other person's rights.champion837

What point are you trying to make? Two wrongs don't make a right, surely they told you that in Sunday school.

The fact is that prostitution is wrong to me, and many others. If you disagree with that then that is another debate.

So what if you think it's wrong? Nobody is forcing you to hire a prostitute, just like nobody is forcing you to marry someone of the same sex.

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

What point are you trying to make? Two wrongs don't make a right, surely they told you that in Sunday school.

toast_burner

The fact is that prostitution is wrong to me, and many others. If you disagree with that then that is another debate.

So what if you think it's wrong? Nobody is forcing you to hire a prostitute, just like nobody is forcing you to marry someone of the same sex.

The point is that you can understand why many people hold that view, and that the things that people find moral isnt soley on if that person is forced to take part in that particular thing.

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[QUOTE="champion837"] The fact is that prostitution is wrong to me, and many others. If you disagree with that then that is another debate.champion837

So what if you think it's wrong? Nobody is forcing you to hire a prostitute, just like nobody is forcing you to marry someone of the same sex.

The point is that you can understand why many people hold that view, and that the things that people find moral isnt soley on if that person is forced to take part in that particular thing.

You still haven't said why law and religion should be combined.

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I thought they been giving away free sandwiches every Thursday
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#139 champion837
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So what if you think it's wrong? Nobody is forcing you to hire a prostitute, just like nobody is forcing you to marry someone of the same sex.

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The point is that you can understand why many people hold that view, and that the things that people find moral isnt soley on if that person is forced to take part in that particular thing.

You still haven't said why law and religion should be combined.

That wasnt the argument. You said that freedom is only invalid if it infringes on other people, as to say that is the higher way of morality.
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The point is that you can understand why many people hold that view, and that the things that people find moral isnt soley on if that person is forced to take part in that particular thing.

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You still haven't said why law and religion should be combined.

That wasnt the argument. You said that freedom is only invalid if it infringes on other people, as to say that is the higher way of morality.

You said same sex marriage should not be allowed as your religious beliefs go against it. So you're against equality and freedom of religion, the two main things for any civilized country.

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Me too. I dont say it for the heck of it. I have reasonings like you have reasonings.champion837

Earlier you said religion, which is your own personal belief. You can't force personal beliefs on people

Thats what you do when you determine what you think is right and wrong. Just because I worship God doesnt mean that you should think that what you believe isnt any less "personal" than what I believe. You have a moral code you determine things by, I do as well. The moral code that you determine what is right and wrong is YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF as well. This isnt different.

Thats what it means actually, if we're talking specifically about views of yours that can only be supported using religion.