Child Killer Released But Has A Long List Of Strict Conditions

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#51 TheShadowLord07
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I would have commit suicide if I couldn't go on the web

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#52 Jaks_Publicity
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Under those terms, I'd rather just stay in prison.
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#53 PSP107
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]No computer? I would die.Montaya
Well it doesn't say anything about an xbox 360 or ps3.

But they will just take that away quickly. especially the PS3 since its internet ready with built in wi fi
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#54 Snipes_2
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I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.

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#55 Jaks_Publicity
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I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.

Snipes_2
Yep. Never mind correctional therapy or anything. All that is a sham.
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#56 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.

Jaks_Publicity
Yep. Never mind correctional therapy or anything. All that is a sham.

They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?
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#57 gamedude2020
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he will probably just go to Mexico

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#58 Videodogg
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48 years, such a waste of life, 22 to 70... That's just sad. I almost feel sorry for him, more shock at how crazy that is, but still. rolo107
Feel sorry for him? He raped and killed a 3 year old girl. He should have never been released at all. He should rot in jail to his last day.
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#59 Jaks_Publicity
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?

That's why there's probation and restrictions.
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#60 789shadow
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[QUOTE="Jaks_Publicity"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.

Snipes_2

Yep. Never mind correctional therapy or anything. All that is a sham.

They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?

Prison is more effective at turning people into killers than the other way around.

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#61 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Jaks_Publicity"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?

That's why there's probation and restrictions.

Eh, I still feel they should not have a chance to repeat their offense/offenses. Even if the possibility is remote.
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#62 semi-expert
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I'd go mad! No computer...If I were him (God forbid, I hope I am not...), i'd just stay in jail...much better than that.

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#63 tonberry007
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I like it. :) Serves him right. Feel sorry for the townfolks tho.

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#64 GHlegend77
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Holy crap... he killed and raped a 3 year old girl!? HOW THE HELL DID THEY LET HIM THE **** OUT?!?!?!??!?!

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#65 Dman0017
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[QUOTE="The Article"]Welsh will be required to stay in a Rockford apartment found for him by the state, and cannot leave except for sex offender treatment or other approved activities. Welsh cannot operate a vehicle or visit schools, parks, theaters or bars. He also cannot own a home computer, go online, view pornography or use alcohol or drugs..

cant leave the house without approval, no computer, no pornography and no alcohol I think that would suck something hardcore, I do not think I could deal with that.
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#66 foxhound_fox
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Should have just been left in jail (or more preferably, a treatment asylum). Someone who rapes and kills a 3 year-old girl isn't "right" in the head and either needs to be "fixed" or kept far away from the rest of society.

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#67 imaps3fanboy
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I like it. :) Serves him right. Feel sorry for the townfolks tho.

tonberry007
yea... I have to live in the same city as this guy. If I ever see him (even though I won't know its him) I'll beat him up!
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#68 Pixel-Pirate
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Personally I think a 70 year old man is a fairly minimal threat to most people. Even so, why even let him out if you have that many conditions? You're just changing his prison cell from an actual cell to an apartment. Not to mention it's basically solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Also, how is he going to get food if he can't leave? Is the state shopping for him for clothes and other necessities and paying for the apartment and utilities?

It seems like it'd just cost more money to do this and I don't even see the point.

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#69 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="tonberry007"]

I like it. :) Serves him right. Feel sorry for the townfolks tho.

imaps3fanboy

yea... I have to live in the same city as this guy. If I ever see him (even though I won't know its him) I'll beat him up!

Even though he's a child murderer, I don't think you'll get alot of support from a judge or people around you for assaulting a senior citizen.

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#70 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]Okay, honestly, he did his time. MrLions
He killed a kid though. :|

So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?

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#71 Pixel-Pirate
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Personally I think he should of been in treatment and rehabilitation all this time/as long as it took. Even so, He did do his time. That is how the law works, you do your time and then you're free. And he's 70 years old, I just personally don't see him as a serious threat to the world anymore.

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#72 dragon7x2k
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[QUOTE="MrLions"][QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]Okay, honestly, he did his time. Leejjohno

He killed a kid though. :|

So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?

Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.
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#73 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="MrLions"] He killed a kid though. :|dragon7x2k

So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?

Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.

Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.

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#74 dragon7x2k
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Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.

Pixel-Pirate

That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.

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#75 freek666
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Good thing it doesn't say anything about erotic literature.

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#76 Wanderer5
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So it like being in jail, but not being in jail.

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#77 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.

dragon7x2k

That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.

After 40 years it's really not even punishment anymore.

He needs rehabilitation, IMO.

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#78 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="Jaks_Publicity"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?Snipes_2
That's why there's probation and restrictions.

Eh, I still feel they should not have a chance to repeat their offense/offenses. Even if the possibility is remote.

Do you feel the same way about petty thieves, and people in prison for tax fraud?

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#79 MrGeezer
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Personally I think a 70 year old man is a fairly minimal threat to most people. Even so, why even let him out if you have that many conditions? You're just changing his prison cell from an actual cell to an apartment.

Pixel-Pirate

Could this be an attempt to cut costs (or free up prison space)?

Are they paying for his apartment, or does he have to pay for that himself?


And yes, those questions were probably answered in the link.

But no, I didn't bother reading it.

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#80 Z0MBIES
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Eh, he's 70, what is he going to do with all that stuff anyways, besides he's probably never even touched a computer, having been locked up for 47 years, so he doesn't even know what he's missing.
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#81 Wolfetan
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Well at least hes 70 no way he can do much more damage.

Anyways, did you see what he did. He deserves to be locked in a extremely small room, to tight even for him and let him starve to death.

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#82 Kenny789
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He's 70, seems like a fair punishment and I don't think he'll be doing anything nasty.
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#83 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.

Pixel-Pirate

That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.

After 40 years it's really not even punishment anymore.

He needs rehabilitation, IMO.

Hell...after 40 ****ing years, it almost seems like release WOULD be a punishment.

In any case, I don't think that rehabilitation is ever going to be the primary focus most of the time, since "rehabilitation" can be seen as "help". And from what I've seen, people don't tend to take kindly to "helping" people who are "bad".

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#84 Ultrabeatdown55
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I would rather stay in prison... I guess dying would be better outside of prison though.

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Pwned, but good for him

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#86 positivebalance
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well, he can still watch TV i guess. should've just left him to rot in prison for the scum he is.

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#87 Vesica_Prime
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I can see why he chose to get out of prison under these harsh conditions because in prison (probably a high security one) he'd be a weak, easy and obvious target for many inmates to vent their anger/sexual tension on since being a pedophile/child murderer in prison is the equivalent of being Jewish in Nazi Germany.

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#88 msudude211
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[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"]That's how they should punish criminalsimaps3fanboy
He could be living across the street from me : / He should be in prison. I don't want him assaulting me... BAAAHHHHH

[size=11]He's 70 years old... just round house kick him in the face.[/size]
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I would miss the booze.
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I would miss the booze. Elraptor
The judge forgot house hold products. There is always drain-o El, always drain-o PS: Kids, don't drink drain-o. Drink cologne.
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#91 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"] That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.

MrGeezer

After 40 years it's really not even punishment anymore.

He needs rehabilitation, IMO.

Hell...after 40 ****ing years, it almost seems like release WOULD be a punishment.

In any case, I don't think that rehabilitation is ever going to be the primary focus most of the time, since "rehabilitation" can be seen as "help". And from what I've seen, people don't tend to take kindly to "helping" people who are "bad".

Which is unfortunate as it just garuntees such incidents continue to happen. If you refuse to help someone, do you have much of a right to complain when that problem they had you refused to help comes back to bite society in the ass?

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#92 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Personally I think a 70 year old man is a fairly minimal threat to most people. Even so, why even let him out if you have that many conditions? You're just changing his prison cell from an actual cell to an apartment.

MrGeezer

Could this be an attempt to cut costs (or free up prison space)?

Are they paying for his apartment, or does he have to pay for that himself?


And yes, those questions were probably answered in the link.

But no, I didn't bother reading it.

If he can't leave, and thus cannot work, I don't see how he could pay for the apartment. I'd also assume they'd have to pay for all his living expences and groceries.

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#93 MrLions
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[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?

Pixel-Pirate

Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.

Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.

It won't but he deserves it. People need to be punished for what they did.
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#94 bobbetybob
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Lol no computer, bet he's really bummed about that considering he has no idea what that even is. And no I would probably kill myself, after being in there for all that time then basically being imprisoned in your own home, he basically can't do anything to even whittle his time away.
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#95 deactivated-59d151f079814
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He served his setnence, was deemed not a threat.. And he faces strict conditions free.. Sounds fine with me.. He was already in prison for 47 years.. He has to be at least 65 years old.. Hardly a major threat..
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#96 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"] Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.MrLions

Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.

It won't but he deserves it. People need to be punished for what they did.

I think punishing someone who is clearly unstable makes as much sense as punishing a cancer victim. Treatment would be far more beneficial for everyone.

At the very least we could change the justice system to the revenge system.

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#97 jrhawk42
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I'm starting to figure out why crime is so bad in the US... far to many people focused on punishment instead of prevention.

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#98 PSP107
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he will probably just go to Mexico

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can he?
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#99 dkrustyklown
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- Does anyone else find it extremely stupid that we have all these ultra-strict rules for released sex offenders but nothing of the sort for murderers? Or other violent criminals for that matter?

gameguy6700

The subject of the article is a murderer.

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#100 Solid_Tango
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Just give him the chair, hes already too mess up