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Yep. Never mind correctional therapy or anything. All that is a sham.I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.
Snipes_2
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Yep. Never mind correctional therapy or anything. All that is a sham. They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.
Jaks_Publicity
48 years, such a waste of life, 22 to 70... That's just sad. I almost feel sorry for him, more shock at how crazy that is, but still. rolo107Feel sorry for him? He raped and killed a 3 year old girl. He should have never been released at all. He should rot in jail to his last day.
[QUOTE="Jaks_Publicity"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Yep. Never mind correctional therapy or anything. All that is a sham. They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?I think all Pedophiles and Murderers should not be allowed the chance to repeat previous offenses.
Snipes_2
Prison is more effective at turning people into killers than the other way around.
I'd go mad! No computer...If I were him (God forbid, I hope I am not...), i'd just stay in jail...much better than that.
Holy crap... he killed and raped a 3 year old girl!? HOW THE HELL DID THEY LET HIM THE **** OUT?!?!?!??!?!
Should have just been left in jail (or more preferably, a treatment asylum). Someone who rapes and kills a 3 year-old girl isn't "right" in the head and either needs to be "fixed" or kept far away from the rest of society.
yea... I have to live in the same city as this guy. If I ever see him (even though I won't know its him) I'll beat him up!I like it. :) Serves him right. Feel sorry for the townfolks tho.
tonberry007
Personally I think a 70 year old man is a fairly minimal threat to most people. Even so, why even let him out if you have that many conditions? You're just changing his prison cell from an actual cell to an apartment. Not to mention it's basically solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Also, how is he going to get food if he can't leave? Is the state shopping for him for clothes and other necessities and paying for the apartment and utilities?
It seems like it'd just cost more money to do this and I don't even see the point.
[QUOTE="tonberry007"]yea... I have to live in the same city as this guy. If I ever see him (even though I won't know its him) I'll beat him up!I like it. :) Serves him right. Feel sorry for the townfolks tho.
imaps3fanboy
Even though he's a child murderer, I don't think you'll get alot of support from a judge or people around you for assaulting a senior citizen.
Personally I think he should of been in treatment and rehabilitation all this time/as long as it took. Even so, He did do his time. That is how the law works, you do your time and then you're free. And he's 70 years old, I just personally don't see him as a serious threat to the world anymore.
He killed a kid though. :|[QUOTE="MrLions"][QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]Okay, honestly, he did his time. Leejjohno
So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?
Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.[QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="MrLions"] He killed a kid though. :|dragon7x2k
So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?
Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.
Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.Pixel-Pirate
That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.
dragon7x2k
After 40 years it's really not even punishment anymore.
He needs rehabilitation, IMO.
[QUOTE="Jaks_Publicity"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] They can have their correctional therapy in Prison. Who knows if they are putting up a Facade during their sessions or not?Snipes_2That's why there's probation and restrictions. Eh, I still feel they should not have a chance to repeat their offense/offenses. Even if the possibility is remote.
Do you feel the same way about petty thieves, and people in prison for tax fraud?
Personally I think a 70 year old man is a fairly minimal threat to most people. Even so, why even let him out if you have that many conditions? You're just changing his prison cell from an actual cell to an apartment.
Pixel-Pirate
Could this be an attempt to cut costs (or free up prison space)?
Are they paying for his apartment, or does he have to pay for that himself?
And yes, those questions were probably answered in the link.
But no, I didn't bother reading it.
That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"]
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.
Pixel-Pirate
After 40 years it's really not even punishment anymore.
He needs rehabilitation, IMO.
Hell...after 40 ****ing years, it almost seems like release WOULD be a punishment.
In any case, I don't think that rehabilitation is ever going to be the primary focus most of the time, since "rehabilitation" can be seen as "help". And from what I've seen, people don't tend to take kindly to "helping" people who are "bad".
I can see why he chose to get out of prison under these harsh conditions because in prison (probably a high security one) he'd be a weak, easy and obvious target for many inmates to vent their anger/sexual tension on since being a pedophile/child murderer in prison is the equivalent of being Jewish in Nazi Germany.
[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"]That's how they should punish criminalsimaps3fanboyHe could be living across the street from me : / He should be in prison. I don't want him assaulting me... BAAAHHHHH [size=11]He's 70 years old... just round house kick him in the face.[/size]
I would miss the booze. ElraptorThe judge forgot house hold products. There is always drain-o El, always drain-o PS: Kids, don't drink drain-o. Drink cologne.
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]
[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"] That's why death penalty is so useless, he needed a punishment.
MrGeezer
After 40 years it's really not even punishment anymore.
He needs rehabilitation, IMO.
Hell...after 40 ****ing years, it almost seems like release WOULD be a punishment.
In any case, I don't think that rehabilitation is ever going to be the primary focus most of the time, since "rehabilitation" can be seen as "help". And from what I've seen, people don't tend to take kindly to "helping" people who are "bad".
Which is unfortunate as it just garuntees such incidents continue to happen. If you refuse to help someone, do you have much of a right to complain when that problem they had you refused to help comes back to bite society in the ass?
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]
Personally I think a 70 year old man is a fairly minimal threat to most people. Even so, why even let him out if you have that many conditions? You're just changing his prison cell from an actual cell to an apartment.
MrGeezer
Could this be an attempt to cut costs (or free up prison space)?
Are they paying for his apartment, or does he have to pay for that himself?
And yes, those questions were probably answered in the link.
But no, I didn't bother reading it.
If he can't leave, and thus cannot work, I don't see how he could pay for the apartment. I'd also assume they'd have to pay for all his living expences and groceries.
Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.[QUOTE="dragon7x2k"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]
So that's worse than a regular unrepentant murderer?
Pixel-Pirate
Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.
It won't but he deserves it. People need to be punished for what they did.[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"][QUOTE="dragon7x2k"] Imagine all the experiences the kid never will have, I mean killing is always bad, I'm against the death penalty, but killing and raping a kid is just horrible, how much experiences can anybody have at 3 years old, he didn't even had a life.MrLions
Indeed, however keeping him in prison for life or executing him isn't going to revive that child.
It won't but he deserves it. People need to be punished for what they did.I think punishing someone who is clearly unstable makes as much sense as punishing a cancer victim. Treatment would be far more beneficial for everyone.
At the very least we could change the justice system to the revenge system.
- Does anyone else find it extremely stupid that we have all these ultra-strict rules for released sex offenders but nothing of the sort for murderers? Or other violent criminals for that matter?
gameguy6700
The subject of the article is a murderer.
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